It sounds like you have many of the correct supplements figured out and the ciro. and inversion also. I think we should consume as many of our nutrients in the format of our diet and use supplements above what we can get through diet.
Heaven only knows I have gone through back issues in past years and thankfully haven't had any problems with it in years. An improved diet may be partially responsible for that.
My dermatologist had me on 1000mg of D3 and increased it too 2000mg 2 years ago. I may up that too 4000mg soon. Tumeric, I have read about in the past but this article has me thinking I should consider including it in my diet in the future. I have had two melanomas in the past 15 years but am blond/blue eyed/light family history/ and spent way too much time in the sun at the beach and pool while growing up and outdoor construction as an adult, so I now know better on that.
In my book keeping a proper diet and plenty of good exercise is one of the best ways to maintain food health. Inflammation and stress are also two other things that need to be managed for better health.
I can only tell you what worked (finally~!) for me.
I had a severe case of Candida - so much so that I took three ambulance rides to emergency - passed-out~! I found a doctor after reading a couple books on yeast, "Yeast Syndrome", being one of them. He put me on the Paleo diet, which is essentially ZERO sugar and ZERO simple carbohydrates. Then he gave me a supplement of citrus extract. https://candida-yeast-infection-relief.com/. It took about six weeks. I still recall the day the yeast gave-up. It felt like a wet sleeping-bag was lifted off me. Here is an excellent educational guide.
OBTW, that dear doctor had his AMA license revoked for treating Candida. The AMA DOES NOT recognize it as a 'disease' - therefore they consider any treatment as quackery. He left the USSA and went to Switzerland . God Bless the AMA.
My father in law used to suffer from severe cases of Candida as well!
Over here it is recognized as a real medical condition (weird that it isn't over there, probably can't make enough money off it) and whenever the doctors prescribed him medication, it would get a bit better but always come back.
Two years ago, I made him half a liter of strong colloidal silver (nice amber color) and told him to keep a sip in his mouth for 20 minutes in the morning before breakfast and at night before going to sleep.
It was a good call! Yeast really does not like colloidal silver.
The Candida went away completely and hasn't come back yet.
I'm always happy to share success stories. Hope that it can help somebody.
Is a very large subject. I believe Candida to be an immune system failure, caused by destruction of the gut bacteria. Most people with Candida Overgrowth suffer from "leaky gut." We could all write volumes on what causes leaky gut. The contributing factors are legion, but suffice it to say for now that treating candida for the long haul requires healing your gut lining.
What I mean is this, if you have yellow toe nails (or chronic athletes foot, or yeast infections or sinus infections) and buy some medicine to apply to your toe nails, and over the course of time this medicine starts to clear up your toe nails, if you have done nothing to fix your gut, as soon as you stop applying the medicine, the yellow toe nails will come right back.
I believe candida overgrowth to be the number 1 source of auto immune disorders. When your gut leaks, stuff that is in your gut leaks through the intestinal lining and into your bloodstream. This causes you to have allergies to what ever is in your gut the most and triggers an auto immune response. Some people it manifests into diabetes, while another will suffer depression, while another gets something else.
I am not a doctor, and this is my opinion based on many many hours of research. A leaky gut is a very difficult thing to heal. The good news is that you can do it with food. The bad news is that it is expensive, and you don't get to compare notes at birthday parties about which pill du jour is being taken by the most people. You just eat gooder.
The gut bacteria is critical in restoring your immune system. You have more bacterial cells in your body than you do human cells. So are you a human with gut bacteria, or are you gut bacteria with some human traits? Either way, you should treat your host with respect, but the gut bacteria is wiped out by the American Diet and antibiotics and Glyphosate. It is imperative that you get educated, and avoid these things as much as you can, and eat healthy, organic food. Probiotics. Take baths in epsom salts and bentonite clay. Drink Sonne's Number 7. Take minerals (Pink Himilayan salt is good, see my much earlier post on making Sole.)
You need to eat a diet that does not feed your yeast. (most alcoholics are riddled with candida, and the candida craves the alcohol)
All great suggestions on how to handle candida, but you need to address the leaky gut in conjunction.
We could do a whole forum expanding just this subject. If you are suffering candida overgrowth, I would strongly urge you to get very educated on how your body works. This is a great place to start:
A lot of people think I am anti medicine. I actually have a tremendous respect for medicine, but find the term to be substituted for "Toxic for humans" all too often.
If you really need some medicine, my family has had great success with Pekana products:
A general sense of unwellness characterized by fatigue and muscle weakness, sleep disorders, anxiety, digestive complaints, vaginal yeast infection, skin disorders such as rashes, hives and itching, diminished sex drive, headache, chemical sensitivities, depression, muscle and joint pain and often genito-urinary problems are frequently mis-diagnosed or dismissed as being psycho- somatic, caused by stress or simply imaginary, by most conventional medical practitioners. Individuals suffering of these complaints would be well advised to investigate the links between candida overgrowth and its resultant symptoms and signs.
Candida yeast overgrowth is the underlying cause of many of today's most common health disorders. Candida albicans, a strain of yeast, occupies a place in the microbial ecology of the human intestinal environment as an organism responsible for the neutralization of certain species of harmful gut bacteria. Candida albicans is found in low concentrations in healthy intestinal systems, where it performs its normal, healthy functions, assisting in the maintenance of ideal intestinal flora levels. Candida albicans yeast can however, easily proliferate out of control do to the prevalance of health undermining factors so common in our modern world. click here for more detailed information
PLEASE CHOOSE THE CATAGORY DESCRIBING YOUR CONDITION
CHRONIC SYSTEMIC CANDIDA OVERGROWTH previously treated (recurrent) may be complicated by other factors & syndromes such as: Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Parasites, etc.
"I believe candida overgrowth to be the number 1 source of auto immune disorders."
The list of disorders that are caused by candida is pretty extensive. All encompassing really. And certainly auto-immune disorders are on that list. But right at this moment in my studies, I am more prone to say that vaccinations have caused more major auto-immune disorders, in my generation in particular. I'm speaking of MS and Cancer and Lupus type problems. Having said that I'll immediately concede that the argument is academic. Everyone starts life, (thanks to infant vaccinations), with a compromised immune system. Then add in a diet of sugar , simple carbohydrates and a few doses of antibiotics and the Candida have a playground all to themselves. The current generation of children are riddled with autism, asthma, diabetes, and other disorders that did not exist, or were very rare in my childhood, and those kids are getting 10 times the number of vaccinations that I had.
The first objective must be to rebuild the immune system and get the diet under control. Both of those - at the same time - are the first step.
......And Abguy...I appreciate you guys knowledge on this stuff. Theres a lot of info out there and it's hard to know the best sources...seems the following applies to me, most commonly in the form of red splotchy face....
"This causes you to have allergies to what ever is in your gut the most and triggers an auto immune response. Some people it manifests into diabetes, while another will suffer depression, while another gets something else"
....This is why I cannot eat eggs, dairy and bread anymore I suppose (without getting red splotchy face). Just wondering....When I get the candida under control, will I be able to go back to eating these foods? We'll find out. These links are excellent so thanks again.
All good Ag, I do have an amazing ability to inadvertently aggravate folks so I'm sorry on my end as well....
I want to add to the group here, but most commonly I seem to be able to participate on a personal, anecdotal level pertaining to my own experiences...thanks again
I am not a doctor, but if you are developing allergies to foods you used to be ok with, and the foods you eat the most, I would bet the farm you have leaky gut. I would highly suggest the GAPS diet. Unfortunately, you will have to completely change your lifestyle to do GAPS properly.
No sugars, starches, or grains. No GMO, organic only.
When we started the GAPS diet for my son, I thought I was healthy, what I learned was I was 40 pounds over weight and sick. That diet truly changed my life and I am so thankful that I followed that path. To do that diet properly, you really need to buy the book, but this is a good place to start:
I hear ya, it is academic, but you bring u an interesting point. How many times have I said that everyone misses synergystic toxicity. You take Vaccines, toxic food, toxic water, chemtrails, , blah, blah, blah, right down to your freakin dryer sheets. It is shootin' fish in a barrel to identify exactly what "the cause is."
It is far simpler to focus on your body and immune system, as you understand. Get all toxins out of your life. If something is toxic, it probably does not make much sense to ingest it. Eat foods that supercharge the systems of your body. (which is why Morse's book is so good. It tells you what to eat for each of your systems.)
Also be very careful of endocrine disruptors. Something Flyinkel taught me early on and I resesarched. Endocrine disruptors bad.
The earth is out of balance, it is toxic. We are out of balance, toxic. Be it candida or cancer, the body is out of balance and seeking harmony. I just wish I was better at controlling the pendulum. Getting there...
Could easily be parasites.(side note, up to 80% of the population has parasites so it is not nearly as abnormal as you might think).
Also C. difficile bacterium is notorious for causing all sorts of food type allergies. This product has worked very well for some-- Enterosgel. Just ideas on where you might want to focus your research time.
Here's the great part, if it is C. difficile and you kill it, all the food allergies go away!
Need to sort out yeast issue. 7 years abx to get through 10 year mis diagnosed Lyme and Bartonella. Functioning ok now...was pretty much housebound for a few years - Just been downhill skiing ;-)
Need to sort guts out...sugar cravings and the like from destroying flora... I trust your experience and integrity.
There is no such thing as expensive when health is concerned. I am priceless!
Vonburp
It sounds like you have many of the correct supplements figured out and the ciro. and inversion also. I think we should consume as many of our nutrients in the format of our diet and use supplements above what we can get through diet.
Heaven only knows I have gone through back issues in past years and thankfully haven't had any problems with it in years. An improved diet may be partially responsible for that.
My dermatologist had me on 1000mg of D3 and increased it too 2000mg 2 years ago. I may up that too 4000mg soon. Tumeric, I have read about in the past but this article has me thinking I should consider including it in my diet in the future. I have had two melanomas in the past 15 years but am blond/blue eyed/light family history/ and spent way too much time in the sun at the beach and pool while growing up and outdoor construction as an adult, so I now know better on that.
In my book keeping a proper diet and plenty of good exercise is one of the best ways to maintain food health. Inflammation and stress are also two other things that need to be managed for better health.
Van B, you have asked a HUGE question there;
Van B, you have asked a HUGE question there;
I can only tell you what worked (finally~!) for me.
I had a severe case of Candida - so much so that I took three ambulance rides to emergency - passed-out~! I found a doctor after reading a couple books on yeast, "Yeast Syndrome", being one of them. He put me on the Paleo diet, which is essentially ZERO sugar and ZERO simple carbohydrates. Then he gave me a supplement of citrus extract. https://candida-yeast-infection-relief.com/. It took about six weeks. I still recall the day the yeast gave-up. It felt like a wet sleeping-bag was lifted off me. Here is an excellent educational guide.
https://candida-yeast-infection-relief.com/
OBTW, that dear doctor had his AMA license revoked for treating Candida. The AMA DOES NOT recognize it as a 'disease' - therefore they consider any treatment as quackery. He left the USSA and went to Switzerland . God Bless the AMA.
thanks guys....
....for your thoughts...hard to get straight info and your input is much appreciated!
@abguy4 Re: Candida
My father in law used to suffer from severe cases of Candida as well!
Over here it is recognized as a real medical condition (weird that it isn't over there, probably can't make enough money off it) and whenever the doctors prescribed him medication, it would get a bit better but always come back.
Two years ago, I made him half a liter of strong colloidal silver (nice amber color) and told him to keep a sip in his mouth for 20 minutes in the morning before breakfast and at night before going to sleep.
It was a good call! Yeast really does not like colloidal silver.
The Candida went away completely and hasn't come back yet.
I'm always happy to share success stories. Hope that it can help somebody.
Candida
Is a very large subject. I believe Candida to be an immune system failure, caused by destruction of the gut bacteria. Most people with Candida Overgrowth suffer from "leaky gut." We could all write volumes on what causes leaky gut. The contributing factors are legion, but suffice it to say for now that treating candida for the long haul requires healing your gut lining.
What I mean is this, if you have yellow toe nails (or chronic athletes foot, or yeast infections or sinus infections) and buy some medicine to apply to your toe nails, and over the course of time this medicine starts to clear up your toe nails, if you have done nothing to fix your gut, as soon as you stop applying the medicine, the yellow toe nails will come right back.
I believe candida overgrowth to be the number 1 source of auto immune disorders. When your gut leaks, stuff that is in your gut leaks through the intestinal lining and into your bloodstream. This causes you to have allergies to what ever is in your gut the most and triggers an auto immune response. Some people it manifests into diabetes, while another will suffer depression, while another gets something else.
I am not a doctor, and this is my opinion based on many many hours of research. A leaky gut is a very difficult thing to heal. The good news is that you can do it with food. The bad news is that it is expensive, and you don't get to compare notes at birthday parties about which pill du jour is being taken by the most people. You just eat gooder.
The gut bacteria is critical in restoring your immune system. You have more bacterial cells in your body than you do human cells. So are you a human with gut bacteria, or are you gut bacteria with some human traits? Either way, you should treat your host with respect, but the gut bacteria is wiped out by the American Diet and antibiotics and Glyphosate. It is imperative that you get educated, and avoid these things as much as you can, and eat healthy, organic food. Probiotics. Take baths in epsom salts and bentonite clay. Drink Sonne's Number 7. Take minerals (Pink Himilayan salt is good, see my much earlier post on making Sole.)
You need to eat a diet that does not feed your yeast. (most alcoholics are riddled with candida, and the candida craves the alcohol)
All great suggestions on how to handle candida, but you need to address the leaky gut in conjunction.
We could do a whole forum expanding just this subject. If you are suffering candida overgrowth, I would strongly urge you to get very educated on how your body works. This is a great place to start:
https://books-master.net/nutrition/1461-the-detox-miracle-sourcebook-raw-food-and-herbs.html
If anyone has a problem downloading, PM me and I will send you a .pdf version of the book.
I am happy to help anyone who needs more information, and that includes you Von Burp. My apologies for being such a dick the other day.
Some of you may have seen me post about the Gaps Diet.
https://www.gapsdiet.com/
Abguy mentioned Paleo and this is similar only harder, but it is specifically designed to heal gut and starve candida.
Fasting is also very good for your immune system. Do a google search on "Fasting restores immune system"
Always remember, which ever path you settle on, your intent is the most important part.
Good Luck!
By the way
A lot of people think I am anti medicine. I actually have a tremendous respect for medicine, but find the term to be substituted for "Toxic for humans" all too often.
If you really need some medicine, my family has had great success with Pekana products:
https://www.pekana.com/about-pekana/company-profile.htm
German Biological Candida Treatment Protocol
https://www.modernherbalist.com/icinfo.html
Here are more Candida Resources
CANDIDA YEAST TREATMENT OPTIONS
A general sense of unwellness characterized by fatigue and muscle weakness, sleep disorders, anxiety, digestive complaints, vaginal yeast infection, skin disorders such as rashes, hives and itching, diminished sex drive, headache, chemical sensitivities, depression, muscle and joint pain and often genito-urinary problems are frequently mis-diagnosed or dismissed as being psycho- somatic, caused by stress or simply imaginary, by most conventional medical practitioners. Individuals suffering of these complaints would be well advised to investigate the links between candida overgrowth and its resultant symptoms and signs.
Candida yeast overgrowth is the underlying cause of many of today's most common health disorders. Candida albicans, a strain of yeast, occupies a place in the microbial ecology of the human intestinal environment as an organism responsible for the neutralization of certain species of harmful gut bacteria. Candida albicans is found in low concentrations in healthy intestinal systems, where it performs its normal, healthy functions, assisting in the maintenance of ideal intestinal flora levels. Candida albicans yeast can however, easily proliferate out of control do to the prevalance of health undermining factors so common in our modern world. click here for more detailed information
PLEASE CHOOSE THE CATAGORY DESCRIBING YOUR CONDITION
SIMPLE, ACUTE CANDIDA GUT OVERGROWTH mild to moderate, not previously treated (non recurrent)
CHRONIC SYSTEMIC CANDIDA OVERGROWTH previously treated (recurrent) may be complicated by other factors & syndromes such as: Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, Parasites, etc.
VAGINAL YEAST INFECTION
YEAST DIE-OFF REACTIONS coping strategies
CANDIDA TREATMENT PROTOCOL FOR HIGHLY SENSITIVE INDIVIDUALS
COMPLETE LISTING OF OUR CANDIDA TREATMENT PRODUCTS
COMPANION DIET FOR OUR CANDIDA CLEARANCE ROTATION PROTOCOL
AFFORDABLE, EXCELLENT QUALITY ORGANIC MEATS, POULTRY & WILD SALMON
CAUSES OF CANDIDIA YEAST OVERGROWTH article
DENTAL INFLUENCES ON CANDIDA OVERGROWTH
FREE PHONE CONSULTATIONS FOR CANDIDA SUFFERERS
https://www.modernherbalist.com/intermediary-candida.html
AG said; "I believe candida
AG said;
"I believe candida overgrowth to be the number 1 source of auto immune disorders."
The list of disorders that are caused by candida is pretty extensive. All encompassing really. And certainly auto-immune disorders are on that list. But right at this moment in my studies, I am more prone to say that vaccinations have caused more major auto-immune disorders, in my generation in particular. I'm speaking of MS and Cancer and Lupus type problems. Having said that I'll immediately concede that the argument is academic. Everyone starts life, (thanks to infant vaccinations), with a compromised immune system. Then add in a diet of sugar , simple carbohydrates and a few doses of antibiotics and the Candida have a playground all to themselves. The current generation of children are riddled with autism, asthma, diabetes, and other disorders that did not exist, or were very rare in my childhood, and those kids are getting 10 times the number of vaccinations that I had.
The first objective must be to rebuild the immune system and get the diet under control. Both of those - at the same time - are the first step.
AG1969
poking around on youtube this evening and this lady's talks popped up
I think you will like
Silver66 Rage against the dying of the light
Thanks 66
Very good videos.
Thanks Bigtime Ag...
......And Abguy...I appreciate you guys knowledge on this stuff. Theres a lot of info out there and it's hard to know the best sources...seems the following applies to me, most commonly in the form of red splotchy face....
"This causes you to have allergies to what ever is in your gut the most and triggers an auto immune response. Some people it manifests into diabetes, while another will suffer depression, while another gets something else"
....This is why I cannot eat eggs, dairy and bread anymore I suppose (without getting red splotchy face). Just wondering....When I get the candida under control, will I be able to go back to eating these foods? We'll find out. These links are excellent so thanks again.
All good Ag, I do have an amazing ability to inadvertently aggravate folks so I'm sorry on my end as well....
I want to add to the group here, but most commonly I seem to be able to participate on a personal, anecdotal level pertaining to my own experiences...thanks again
Von Burp
I am not a doctor, but if you are developing allergies to foods you used to be ok with, and the foods you eat the most, I would bet the farm you have leaky gut. I would highly suggest the GAPS diet. Unfortunately, you will have to completely change your lifestyle to do GAPS properly.
No sugars, starches, or grains. No GMO, organic only.
When we started the GAPS diet for my son, I thought I was healthy, what I learned was I was 40 pounds over weight and sick. That diet truly changed my life and I am so thankful that I followed that path. To do that diet properly, you really need to buy the book, but this is a good place to start:
https://www.healthhomeandhappiness.com/gaps-recipes
VonBurp
Perhaps I too overreacted to your return.
I think you are a really smart original thinker.
I wish you well.
Bugzy.
abguy
I hear ya, it is academic, but you bring u an interesting point. How many times have I said that everyone misses synergystic toxicity. You take Vaccines, toxic food, toxic water, chemtrails, , blah, blah, blah, right down to your freakin dryer sheets. It is shootin' fish in a barrel to identify exactly what "the cause is."
It is far simpler to focus on your body and immune system, as you understand. Get all toxins out of your life. If something is toxic, it probably does not make much sense to ingest it. Eat foods that supercharge the systems of your body. (which is why Morse's book is so good. It tells you what to eat for each of your systems.)
Also be very careful of endocrine disruptors. Something Flyinkel taught me early on and I resesarched. Endocrine disruptors bad.
The earth is out of balance, it is toxic. We are out of balance, toxic. Be it candida or cancer, the body is out of balance and seeking harmony. I just wish I was better at controlling the pendulum. Getting there...
Von B
Research Nigella Sativa for candida.
Could easily be parasites.(side note, up to 80% of the population has parasites so it is not nearly as abnormal as you might think).
Also C. difficile bacterium is notorious for causing all sorts of food type allergies. This product has worked very well for some-- Enterosgel. Just ideas on where you might want to focus your research time.
Here's the great part, if it is C. difficile and you kill it, all the food allergies go away!
Here is an article on the more virulent strain, but know many with C. diff do not have the runs, the C. diff just takes up residence happily in the body causing the host all sorts of complaints. Posting it more to show you there is a problem with it in the US. https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/onions-imported-from-us-suspected-of-bringing-deadly-strain-of-superbug-to-australia/news-story/8792b75e66ae262dd76e024d8b92db0b?=
https://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/id-mi/cdiff-eng.php
RE GAPS
Just ordered book from Amazon.
Bugzy
Good Luck Bro! The good news is, you can eat as much food as you want, the bad news is the food is very expensive. Toxic cheap, oragnic expensive.
Get yourself a good blender and a crock pot. We have had pretty good luck with the Ninja Blender.
I am proud of you Bugzy. Pretty soon we'll have you brewing your own kombucha!
ag
Need to sort out yeast issue. 7 years abx to get through 10 year mis diagnosed Lyme and Bartonella. Functioning ok now...was pretty much housebound for a few years - Just been downhill skiing ;-)
Need to sort guts out...sugar cravings and the like from destroying flora... I trust your experience and integrity.
There is no such thing as expensive when health is concerned. I am priceless!
Stay tuned. Thanks. Bugzy.
Upton Sinclair and fasting
Half way through this book and thought I would post for the forum members
https://archive.org/details/fastingcure00sinciala
Silver66
Silver66 Rage against the dying of the light
This Sun Salutation Sequence Will Revitalize Your Body