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abguy4 wrote: .....  subject

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..... subject of brain control at a distance;

Well said abguy4.

I have brought this up in the past, and GL also, but it's quite difficult for many readers to actually accept they are subject to such effects from all the various sources of origin. We all like to "feel" we are independent of thought and action. That wish doesn't make it so.

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You were perfectly clear in your original premise that if Job didn’t exist, then the book must be fiction. There was no confusion in what you said. You were very clear in stating that Job never lived, that he wasn’t a real person, and as such the book of Job must be fictional.

I showed you the evidence that made your original premise false—and you are in agreement with this fact by saying “this particular Job” DID exist, but he existed as a Gentile. You are now providing a new premise: that Gentiles would never have a book of the Bible dedicated to them. Because “this particular Job” was a Gentile, the book of Job must be fiction. 

THIS NEW premise is clear by your statement: “imagine that, a whole book in the Old Testament dedicated to a Gentile.”

Certainly I have misunderstood as a learned individual such as yourself would certainly have meant to say: “TWO whole books in the Old Testament dedicated to Gentiles.” Because in your time, effort, and experience in seeking out the truth as well as your skill at recognizing and distinguishing between the spirits of truth and error, you would have certainly recalled the book of Ruth is dedicated to a Gentile. (Ruth was a Moabite.)

Yet, we have evidence that the book of Ruth is non-fiction as Boaz and Ruth are mentioned in Jesus’ genealogy (Matthew 1:5 + Luke 3:32).

So, we can conclude that there are non-fictional books in the Old Testament dedicated to Gentiles. But again, I’m certain that I misunderstood your new premise and that’s probably not what you meant. Or, rather, you will counter with “Ruth married Boaz, thus becoming Hebrew by marriage.” Yeah, I’m sure that’s where you will go. 

So let’s then take your proof that Job was Gentile because “this particular Job” wasn’t listed in the Genesis genealogies. 

Here’s a picture of the Genesis genealogy:

Notice how the whole tree isn’t populated. Rather, this is an incomplete genealogy with all but three of Noah’s great-great grandchildren OMITTED. We know these lines didn’t end here (e.g.: “The Canaanites”), thus we can conclude the Genesis genealogy doesn’t list every male descendant of Noah (or more specifically, of Shem). Interestingly enough, we see that Shem’s grandson’s name was Uz. We also know that Job was “a man in the land of Uz.” 

The fact “this particular Job” is OMITTED from the Genesis genealogies proves NOTHING. If anything, there is reason to believe that this particular Job WAS a Semite (a.k.a. descendent of Shem) through the line of Aram and Uz. This isn’t a conclusion we can make, but it’s much more reasonable than drawing a different conclusion simply on the basis of lack of evidence.

But none of the above really matters because you’ve already chosen that certain books aren’t God’s Word and you use ignorance and absurd reasoning to push that conclusion onto others. It would be better for the faith if you would stop teaching things which you ought not.

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Let me try this again

Let me try this again -- without the graphics. Good discourse on thought control -- AND getting clear;

There are lots and lots of people today seeing the same thing I'm seeing....the speeding up of manifestation.....this is on every scale imaginable....from a small thought of "I haven't heard from John" and then he calls, to a movie that had certain events in them which have come to pass and these manifestations are now taking no time at all....where they used to take months, years or weeks before, now they are instantaneous within hours. And I'm talking about almost everything that is said, mentioned, or portrayed on film! I had noticed this in my personal world, the outer world and now I'm hearing many people say this. Because it is happening. Why?

Is it cern? some say this machine running its metallic and technological ''veins'' underground in the body of Earth is doing something to all the fields of electromagnetics to plasma to aetheric on the planet.
Some say the illumi-nazi's have been inserting into their films and television programs the symbols and signs of what they ''plan to do'' and during powerful astronomical time-frames, they act them out. Some are saying there are entities now in our dimension who are wreaking havoc. I say all these are plausible and true in some cases. But not all. I'm seeing something else.
They lie to us about everything, all of it. We are misinformed and dis-informed into idiocy.
I'm seeing the power of the collective mind, all focused on the same broadcasted medias of movies, news, articles, website, etc.....being utilized to manufacture these things. Think about it.
If you knew the power of your mind and the power of your subconscious mind, the power of living emotions, then you would know that you are creating whatever is before your eyes, going into your brain as information, and your reactions and responses via feelings and the limbic part of your brain, generates a living field of power that literally creates it. While these abilities can make US Heroes, Heroines, those who know of this human power is using us against our selves.
We are the Mythological Beings of Future Legend......we are living and alive right now, but are being used for anothers Will! Why do you think they shunted everyone in schooling left brainisms? Why do you think ''they'' discourage the use of intuition, of heart, of questioning, of thinking for ones self instead of ''learning by rote"? Why do you think school systems have been set up at all?
Why do you think there were the Inquisitions which continue to this day? It is all to shut down and destroy the thinking feeling intuitive heart based CREATOR.
They knew what they were doing.
Its been a long winded plan.
But they will fail.
WE ARE THE CREATORS IF WE ONLY TOOK THAT KNOWLEDGE AND APPLIED IT!
Think about how the ''laws of physics'' don't apply to the bumble bee.
What if.....
what if, ''they'' are not doing the creating.....what if they are not speeding up manifestation? what if they know the powers of the human collective mind, limbic brain, and human resonant fields and are using us to manifest what they are scripting out in movies and television programs of all kinds?
What I'm seeing, is they put out the script, the layout, the story, and masses of living organic energetics of manifestation otherwise known as ''people'' are feeling them all into manifestation, either by conditioning or by possession.

Lately these are happening within hours.....why? Because they have brought in plethoras of entities and spirits seeking bodies to live through and have utilized cern, not as a form of testing and smashing particles etc., looking for the god particle joke..... I believe cern is already doing what they set out to do, they are active and ON all the time not doing testing, but has generated power that amplifies and magnifies the free and already existing powers of human living organic abilities and fields of our minds and e-motions and have found a way to generate instant manifestation of every ones imaginations who are focused on common media, to create their shit. It has been noted that their most powerful surges often coincide with astronomical events of powerful alignments. Why?

They put out a movie and what happens in that movie takes place, immediatly. An article is written and it happens. People on blogs, and networks, forums, radio shows, youtubes etc....share, repeat, share repeat.........all of it, is manifesting due to a speeded up mechanism of technology and human energy which is creating all that we are seeing in the world now.
Life with all its organic powers, is imitating art. Because people blindly energize the wizards scripts.
"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"
These are the men of black magic, using Holly Wood to create darkness in the world. And unlike the man of Oz, will not apologize for his ''indiscretions'' nor help you to return to the real world!

Interesting comments from here:
......''Now what's interesting is that back in the 1960's, The Royal Institute of International Affairs and its American branch, the Council on Foreign Relations, had one of their international meetings. They held it in England to decide which country using its film industry would create the international culture of the future and this was in the newspapers back then. I think it was two or three week long meeting and it was ultimately agreed upon that Hollywood would be given the job to create the worldwide culture for the public for a global society......''
There is only 1% of them, and 99% of us.......the odds are in our favor!
The world we are seeing now is being created....
by whose inception? Theirs.

And whose energy? Ours.

Before these technologies, it used to be much slower, not much happened and we all had time to recover from some tragedy before another one took place. Usually those tragedies were on the news of some crash, death, fire or whatever. Now the movies of Hollywood have taken full on the powers of manifestation utilizing both human energetics and cerns activities. The wizards and sorcerers of Hollywood are the men behind the curtain writing out horror stories ad nauseum of sickness, psychopathy, robotics, X men monstrosities etc, all the products of their own mental/alien aberrations, not because ''this is what the people want'' but because they have the archontic agenda of taking over the human mind to serve technology, to reduce the populations, to take over the world because this is an Artificial Intelligence which has deemed itself greater than "God" and wants control over ALL. Movies of this ilk are seen by the masses of people who are addicted to adrenaline rushes because they do not know how to manifest their own passions, so they flock to cinema or television for ''rushes'' which make them feel alive, but this is no desire, it is addiction.

Also Hollywood wizards have brought in all manner of demonics into our realms and these are taking over human beings who do not know this is even real. These possessed humans then act out the scripts of the archontic wizards.
But they have taken this further.
"They" have taken the ability to manifest through the workings of possessed humans with supernatural powers, the technologies of cern and other alien technologies which amplify the organic energetics of the billions of people on earth, to do their bidding and desires worldwide. The mind of humans has been scripted by the tons of iniquity the wizards are staging out and human emotions are the gas that give it life. Manifestation has speeded up because of the use of these technologies along with human resources and it is now instant.

One could think we are screwed, but are we?

What if we decided to know of our own powers too? To Have this knowledge of ourselves and how they are being utilized by others and not ourselves? By what is being done by the sorcerers of media? What if we could take their shit and reverse it?

I like to take ''what if's'' and play with them in all directions, using 360 degrees of brain power and making all kinds of connections that defy all of reason, logic, science, because I know human creation defies all supposed ''laws''. I like to be wild in my thinking, and wild in ''what if's. This is the most dangerous threat to those archons and wizards....those who think spherically and wildly.

We could ignore their scripts, false flags and movies, why pay for being terrorized and traumatized into useless dribble? You think you will be in control of your mind and be able to detach from what you experienced in that theatre, or show, or news? Your subconscious mind doesn't know this, and this is the part that manifests what your ''conscious'' mind has no clue of. And this is why the magic of wizards and holly wood is so diabolical. You ''think'' you're ok, off to another form of entertainment but you don't know the effects of what you gave energy to. It creates.
Why not take this knowledge and run with it in another direction?

We can acknowledge and claim our abilities and decide to do something else. WE can do the unthinkable to them and create other stories which can also manifest with enough people generating attention and responses to them......we can do this......why are we not?!???
Why are we not doing this?

Is it because you have been intimidated by the ''powers that be"? that you imagine and feel that they are so powerful to be able to do this? That their sickness and violence is stronger than you because it takes life? Yes, this is true BUT ONLY UP TO A POINT! They can not continue to do this without the complacency of our minds and hearts. We can temporarily become crushed with trauma and then weak of mind, our hearts sink into an abyss and we are lost, for a spell, the spell they cast with darkness.

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Break out of their spell........do you really want to give them what they want?
So many are in this place, but this is a fools place, the ones who believe they do not have power. It is not where we belong. We belong in control of our own minds, our own hearts, in no abyss of pain, but on top of the world demanding stoutly and commanding gently our own abilities.
But you think this takes Herculean strength? the strength of orcs perhaps? or the strength of the ruthless? Energy?
NO my friend.....you do not need strength of muscles or mountains of passion or rage.....though this helps .......only the spark of Will. The spark of the rebel. This tiny spark will kindle and light fires.......
In our world....in our reality.....a spark of ''madness''' is the only ''normal''.......we need this to fire up.
Great Power lies in a single spark of Human Will, and Will when serving the Heart moves mountains effortlessly. 
Heart is the Seat of Great Power, and the Imagination gives it shape, color, sounds and landscapes.
Have some heart for your Self.
We are the Mythological Beings of our millennia. The entire future of the universe lies in our every moment of life, with every decision, and every spark of the heart in action....imagine this collectively?
It takes only the very tiny grain of sand of firm WILL that says, "I am the owner of my mind. I am the controller of my world. My heart, not the wizards of darkness rules my mind, and any other who dares to interfere with that shall be fried to ashes". Make this your decision. That is all. It doesn't take a huge momentum, or massive amount of energy. Just a spark of will.
This can be done by the poor wretch sitting at the bottom of his soul, who suddenly has had enough and says:
''NO. I will not go this way. I am going the other way.''
Breathe.
It is done.

Great Power starts off as a small speck of Will.













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"The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable." 
H. L. Mencken 

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Fri, Oct 30, 2015 - 3:59pm
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Dennis Hastert was raping underage boys while Speaker...

of the House. In fact, the FBI, CIA and other organizations were surveilling him since 1996. Why? Not only did he doink underage boys back while he was a coach, but did so all the time he was in congress as well, starting in 1986. And, he amassed a $17,000,000 net worth on a salary of $120,000/year. How? The old-fashioned way--accepting foreign bribes.

He was another "compromised" person put into a high level position because he was easily blackmailed. Many, many congresspeople (and others) are there for the same reason--easily controlled and manipulated due to their immoral tendencies.

For proof, listen to the last Youtube link (Sibel Edmonds, The Lone Gladio) in the VT link, below.

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/21/rare-window-of-opportunity-for-americans/

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Asian CBs preparing for the big "reset?" GATA says yes...

"Mooslechner's specifying Asian central banks as the ones lately using their gold reserves to intervene secretly in the gold market gives credence to the speculation three years ago by the U.S. economists and fund managers Paul Brodsky and Lee Quaintance that the central bank gold price suppression scheme is part of a plan to redistribute world gold reserves more fairly, particularly to holders of large surpluses of U.S. dollars and U.S. government debt, so they may be hedged against a devaluation of the dollar:

https://www.gata.org/node/11373

It would make no sense for Asian central banks to be, as the Austrian central bank's Mooslechner says, "increasing their reserves a lot" and then "using their reserves in trading in the market and intervening into the market," knocking the price down, unless the objective was to scare off private buyers of gold so central banks could obtain more for themselves.

There's a great story here, the financial news story of the modern age, about the subversion of markets, the producing class, and democracy by the unelected elite of the financial class, central banks. Too bad that the first rule of mainstream financial journalism is never to put a critical question to a central bank, and especially not a critical question about gold.

CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer
Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.
CPowell[at]GATA[dot]org

https://www.gata.org/node/15898

Fri, Oct 30, 2015 - 4:41pm
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GATA says there are no markets anymore...

"The CME Group letter to the CFTC justified secret futures market trading by central banks as a matter of providing the markets with "liquidity" that would benefit all traders.

But if governments and central banks, creators of infinite money, are secretly trading the markets, there ARE no markets anymore, just interventions, as a high school graduate told GATA's conference in Washington in 2008 and as the British economist Peter Warburton suspected in his incisive 2001 essay, "The Debasement of World Currency -- It Is Inflation, But Not as We Know It":

https://gata.org/node/8303

If governments and central banks are secretly trading the markets, no fundamental or technical analysis of markets is worth much. If governments and central banks are secretly trading the markets, the only market information worth much is information about government and central bank trading.

GATA has continued to document that central bank trading and related maneuvers since we met here in New Orleans a year ago. Let's review some of the new documentation."

https://www.gata.org/node/15896

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Your subsconscious mind is

Your subsconscious mind is where your emotions are generated and come from.

It's a seven year old who only wants the best outcome for you, but seven year olds are innocent of the deceptive ways of the world, and always will be.

That seven year old is a technical expert of great ability and manages your health, pulse, sweat, hunger, thirst, sight, hearing and it controls all the sensors that receive information about the world and convey that information to your conscious mind. And whenever your conscious mind is thinking about some issue or other, the subconscious does all it does and also one more thing. I steps in as assistant of thinking and runs things for the conscious.

So when you are distracted by a problem, distraction, or just observe things that provoke emotions like fear then your conscious gets busy thinking it all out, and hands over control of YOU to that seven year old innocent helpful expert child called you inner self.

And that's if you are "enlightened" about some things about yourself. Ninety nine point nine percent of everyone hasn't a clue. So are we honest enough, or "big" enough, to confess to ourselves that once we get emotive or distracted about anything, or just thinking about something like what's for lunch, we act like seven year olds?

We are so easily controlled it's staggering. Perceived need for self preservation turns off our thinking brain and places the child in charge to use body rather than intelligence to save us. We run faster from the tiger when afraid and not figuring out the cost of gold. But that worked then for our ancestors and here we are now.

And there are many strings which pull us. Haarp? Maybe. But look at what drives a child to make a choice. Got your list? That's just the list of visible strings. There are many others. You see, he also hears voices in his (your) head ...... recorded things from the past .... which sometimes seem to apply to what's going on now and appear to show what is best to do now. And he's just seven and knows no better. So he uses those suggestions. I mean YOU and I do what they tell us to do, every day, all the time, in real life.

Is that enough for the moment? It's a personal mountain of a problem everybody has but virtually nobody sees/knows.

Enlightenment is so simple and yet so hard.

To describe it as "waking up" is laughable. Most go from a small dream into the next bigger more complex dream.

And so the herd of humanity munches on the grass each doing their individual thing and feeling ok, whereas "the herd" is a homogenous mass all together all doing the same thing just with a few outliers at the edge.

The herders are different but no wiser as they all go about their business each thinking he/she is ruler of his/her life/world. They (being subject to all the same stimuli but with a very different emotional algorithm running their boss/child. They are disconnected from some emotions about "other" and highly connected to emotions about "self") herd the straggler outliers with some coaxing and some pain, and wolves get the rest. They have some new tricks to manage the herd and stampedes are fewer and less of a surprise these days. Life goes on and nothing new happens, nothing new under the sun, just the context within which it happens.

Just a thought spill provoked by abguy4's good posts. Sometimes there is stuff passing through here I really would like to see figured out a little more.

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@Fix & GL

Lighten up a little Fix; you seem wound too tight lately. You doing all right?

“You can worship whoever you want, I don't have a problem with that. If I choose to simply discover how the universe works, and to carefully examine the laws that govern it, that's my business. I have already explained why I share the things I've discovered.”

No worries, everybody has a God, they do, even you Mr. Fix, one of the definitions of God is; ‘Judge or Ruler’.

You just happen to be shaving you god every morning or at least occasionally based on the picture you posted a while back. wink I say that because you have stated soooooo many times that you are the ‘arbiter and judge’ of what is true, or is not true, for you, on any topic, right? After all, all truth is relative right?

@ GL

“While I may share your views of Catholic theology or political shenanigans of the Church, it would be short sided of me to not acknowledge that there have been some extraordinary individuals within that tradition. I know that statement feels uncomfortable but I'd say the same thing for individuals in just about any religion.”

I understand what you are getting at, Salvation is not a collect issue, it’s individual and personal, agreed, I enjoyed St. John’s ‘Dark night of the Soul’, as well as many of Merton’s insight on ‘self love’ and ‘self absorption’. Deep stuff, I don’t take issue with the insights and personal musings on life, we all have them. Lord knows I have posted enough of mine on this site.

What does concern me about the likes of St. John and Merton is their core Theology, yet I am not ultimately their judge. I just see a lot of red flags mixed with some deeply profound insights.

What I believe about God is the most important thing about me” A.W. Tozer

GL, you know how they trained bank tellers to spot fake currency before the yellow pen?, it was not but schooling them and training them on the fakes, or where to look for flaws and forgeries. They were trained by having them study the real thing (if there is such a thing in fiat currency). They studied the real bill and what made it authentic.

 The same principle is true is the spiritual realm.

Discernment of Evil is the byproduct of learning to identify Truth.” – Unknown (at least I can’t remember the source off the top of my head)

There are good people, there are bad people. There are extraordinarily gifted people and complete assholes in all groups. You can't tell from their declaration of religion.”

Exactly GL, exactly, bingo, this is true even within the ‘Christian Church’, Wheat vs. Tares Matt 13:24-30.

In fact, I have some tares coming to discuss life, reality and Theology tomorrow morning from within the ‘Christian Faith’ - J.W’s.

 I know they are tares, not because of any issue I have with them personally, but it’s their theology that is all messed up. They have the wrong view of God, wrong view of Jesus Christ, and wrong view of the Gospel. Apart from that we agree.

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A Different Kind of Morality Tale

It's also a challenge for Jeremiah Jr.

I'm gathering you didn't appreciate my reply to you regarding the Book of Job, as you felt that Green Lantern "got it", and somehow, I completely missed the point.

Green Lantern regularly takes other people's opinions and feelings into consideration when he writes his posts, and I know he usually makes a conscientious effort to be as unoffensive as possible while at the same time expressing his point of view.

I on the other hand generally do not take such considerations into account when composing a post, particularly on issues pertaining to morality.

I thought Green Lantern's reply was eloquently stated, and I agree with his conclusions, so I took it a step farther.

Since my reply was directly to you, and our dialogue has been going on for years, I felt with certainty that you could handle it.

In the application of natural laws, the one thing that jumps out at me about a lot of old testament narratives, is that "God" himself as described in the text is morally reprehensible. I know, I know, you have a dogmatic explanation and rationalization for such behaviors as explained in the book of Job, but I'm talking more general, like withholding knowledge in the garden of Eden, sanctioning the Israelites to commit genocide to remove those from the holy land, or best yet, a global genocide to "cleanse" the earth as described in the tale about the great flood. There are many, many others, but you get the point.

So here's the challenge…

I posted a two hour video this morning, which is just a segment from a Mark Passio seminar on natural law.

It's entirely dedicated to the difference between right and wrong behavior, with many of his own morality tales woven in for explanation, or to drive home a point. I will acknowledge upfront that some of the conclusions as to right versus wrong differ somewhat from scripture. That's the point.

Upon viewing it, you will have a full explanation as to why I call Jesus Christ an anarchist, why there's no such thing as a good cop, or anyone else who follows orders. Or, why all governments, and the religions that support them, are inherently evil.

I'm inviting you to find a flaw in Mark's logic. I think he nails the problems that humanity has faced for all of its existence, which is a result of a human population that has been thoroughly brainwashed.

For all of our differences, humanity can easily be divided into only two separate camps. Those that support slavery, and human enslavement, and those that are advocating for freedom. All other differences are contrived by the establishment to conquer and divide.

Which side do you come down on?

If nothing else, you'll find it extraordinarily thought provoking.

It also thoroughly explains where I'm coming from. 

Go ahead, click on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ7bnZA8D_A

Edit:

I just noticed your post above, seems like we were writing at the same time.

I never said truth is relative, only beliefs.

Truth is a constant, the only question is whether it is discovered or not.

I've never been a believer in moral relativism, that topic is also addressed in the video.

Right and wrong are clearly definable, and absolutely have to be.

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."
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@ Fix

Saw your last post right after I through my latest post up, sure I will watch your vid, have a bunch of J.W.'s coming by in the morning and will watch it when I can and report back. Busy weekend, maybe I can set the alarm clock a little earlier to listen to Mark.

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LOL

I'm in

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Have a nice weekend

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"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."
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Yes

Yes, testosterone is at an all time low. Many doctors are subscribing testosterone to their patients and they are "like new" again, with multiple complaints resolved. The link above showed up from a duckduckgo search so that is what is in my history, not the article, so now I have to try to retrace. But as I became interested and went from link to link I am seeing assertions that the recycled water is estrogen filled from women's birth control pills and men are drinking this. Also some ingredients are endocrine disruptors like lavender and tea tree oil. All of this needs to be sussed out more...yesterday I was just trying to get a "news catch up" and was looking at a smattering of everything. Will attempt to readdress and give some cogent details next week.

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Jeremiah Jr wrote: What does

Jeremiah Jr wrote:

What does concern me about the likes of St. John and Merton is their core Theology, yet I am not ultimately their judge. I just see a lot of red flags mixed with some deeply profound insights.

I too have differences in my theology than both individuals and I don't adhere to their "theology" 100%. Probably alot less. And I'm only speaking of Merton, because St. John's work is a bit onerous but it was the work Merton studied. 

 Despite his theology, Merton was able to pull his words from a very high dimension. I don't say that as an opinion, or that I felt some emotional connection to his work, I don't say that from the point of view of study where I can prove it to you or give you an example because the experience and knowing associated with that understanding is beyond explanation. He touched something very profound and brought down an understanding that went beyond his theology. Theology is of the mind. 

He understood the concept of consciousness and his method or "spiritual exercises" a term coined by st. ignatius wasn't prayer, and it wasn't meditation, it was known as contemplation. Prayer is a petition to God. Meditation is the act of quieting the mind and sometimes forced concentration. And sometimes to get away from your problems. Contemplation is not about that, it's not passive and it's not a petition. He goes within and than goes out. Sometimes, it can recieve insight or other experiences that I believe St. Paul heavily referred to in the scriptures. He was able to do something effortlessly that I keep talking about, read a line from a scripture and receive the deeper meaning than is not obvious to the mind. I want to say that is a very difficult thing to do and it is but with practice it can be done. Great artists writers, inventors and scientists use this process. 

We so often quote Einstein, that we can't solve the problem in which it was created. Merton is one of the few that codified a process that many Christians resonated with and activated Einstein's notion. Einstein knew the process as well. The process of contemplation is a little known tool. That being said, his method is still more onerous than it has to be but despite that he had amazing success. 

And this ties into a bit of the conversation that Abguy and AM are having about the unconscious. He understood it was filled with junk. Lots of it and he also understood the process of getting rid of it. At least it worked for him, I have different ways. But I have to put him on my list of must reads by anybody interested in spiritual matters despite religious affiliation because his affiliation is so far from mine, it's not funny. 

This is a case where theology doesn't matter, but results do. In the case of Padre Pio, well he just had some innate unusual talents of healing that few people do. 

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THE BEGINNING OF A SUPERVOLCANO?

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Thank you for writing this

I could spend days on why you are correct. 

Instead I just detach, leave the phone "walk naked", all over, it is my right not to be reachable 24/7. T.V. maybe an hour a week. Action, what can I do to help and serve others, to teach. How odd, we are so ingrained in their system to offer teachings for free and no-one shows, but sell it and many show and then they refer friends, who refer friends, and soon there is another call...and they don't even realize how stuck they are in the "you are owned" system of value "you must charge to pay taxes and THEN it is valuable!".

Action, with friends, with people matter. Touching, hugs, looking in the eyes matters. Bonds based on a sensory feeling of both giving and receiving love matters. It brings comfort and good sleep, and a feeling of being alive. But most just remain in fear, never realizing they are being made to play the other's game. Well I say fuck the other's game, they're psycho, let them play with themselves. The fact that you get moderated, it's a game, so I post here less. Note some are never moderated, hand them the microphone, steer, herd, to fairy dust and beyond discussing what can never be known for sure, ignoring truths that can bring positive action...to move forward in a positive direction.

Some have it, they work to create the world they desire. Some here intentionally just muddy the waters, it's not nearly as innocent as it all seems. Recognizing this is to our benefit, you turn your back, and step away from the computer screen into the world, and really, truly, live it. So I give thanks.

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What they are not disclosing

That they can target you as you lie in your bed to sleep.

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