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Wed, Oct 21, 2015 - 9:23am
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Cripes, even the dealers have

Cripes, even the dealers have run out of their hoverboard stock...

https://www.goldstackers.com.au/store/

https://www.goldstackers.com.au/store/high-premium.html

Perth Bullion still appear to have

https://www.perthbullion.com/shop/detail/pmbttf15prsco2/

and here (higher price than Mint)

https://www.downies.com/Perth-Mint/Tuvalu-2015-Back-to-the-Future-Hoverb...

Free shipping from The Perth Mint and cheaper than the dealers ;)

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Wed, Oct 21, 2015 - 9:30am
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Good luck...:) If you find 2

Good luck...:)

If you find 2 get em ! and share the joy (or sell me one !)

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Wed, Oct 21, 2015 - 9:43am
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This one will really test the

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Wed, Oct 21, 2015 - 9:46am
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I think it's not a struck medallion but it's poured/cast.

There's also a cheaper brass version of it. As it's not a legal tender coin, I am really tempted to buy a brass one, make a mold and pour myself a silver one!

Wed, Oct 21, 2015 - 9:48am
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Ooooh, do it.....that would

Ooooh, do it.....that would be amazing to see how it went.

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Wed, Oct 21, 2015 - 9:56am
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achmachat

If you do make a mold and can actually pour a medallion I wonder how many you could sell as a 'reproduction'?

Wed, Oct 21, 2015 - 9:59am
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as I said...

I was very tempted!

The reason I didn't do it back when the bronze one was still easily available, was that I didn't want to buy new equipment just for that one project.

My torch and crucibles can only handle around 5 ounces of silver; anything heavier and I can't keep it hot enough / molten.

You can't melt and pour 600 grams of silver with a torch. I'd have to switch to a furnace.

Wed, Oct 21, 2015 - 10:13am
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Tempting you say ? Let me

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Wed, Oct 21, 2015 - 10:24am
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Hammer

You beat me to it. I was looking up the same thing. Lol

Wed, Oct 21, 2015 - 10:56am
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Great minds think

Great minds think alike.......I reckon there might be some buyers if someone got down to the job of reproducing it.

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Wed, Oct 21, 2015 - 11:41am
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what have ye done?

now I've added a furnace (a 2 kg version) onto my eBay watch list!

Time to hunt for a bronze version again. Last time I found one on a Chinese eBay-style site, but that one's long gone.

The guys in Shanghai really know what they're doing:

Wed, Oct 21, 2015 - 11:42am
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Dragon medallion

Hammer. Yeah and I'd be one of the buyers. A 1+pound dragon medallion would be my favorite, no doubt.

I got one of these "no prey no pay" 2 ounce, ultra-high relief rounds a few weeks ago for $45 and about a month ago my retailer had a five ouncer but I didn't get it. I should have. It was gone the next time I went in. I'm still on the lookout for one though.

Wed, Oct 21, 2015 - 11:46am
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That snake medallion is truly a work of art. Beautiful!

Wed, Oct 21, 2015 - 11:55am
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custom medallions...

To be honest, I'd be very uncomfortable reproducing somebody else's design. It would never feel right.

Best thing would be to come up with a design in that same super high relief style without rims and make a run of 50 or so cast 10-troy-ounce rounds. For the fun of knowing that only 50 of those exist. I've got some artist friends; will ask them if they'd be interested in making the master clay model.

Wed, Oct 21, 2015 - 12:42pm
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custom medallions

Yep. I understand your comfort level about making an exact duplicate of someone else's work. Legally, I doubt, but don't know, if they applied for a design patent. If not, anybody can make anything they want. I hope you do end up making some silver art. On a design patent, by the way, if you change or add even a small thing on 'their' design, it's a brand-new design. Go for it!

Wed, Oct 21, 2015 - 11:39pm (Reply to #252)
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achmachat wrote: now I've

achmachat wrote:

now I've added a furnace (a 2 kg version) onto my eBay watch list!

Time to hunt for a bronze version again. Last time I found one on a Chinese eBay-style site, but that one's long gone.

The guys in Shanghai really know what they're doing:

You know it makes sense

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Wed, Oct 21, 2015 - 11:42pm (Reply to #255)
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achmachat wrote: To be

achmachat wrote:

To be honest, I'd be very uncomfortable reproducing somebody else's design. It would never feel right.

Best thing would be to come up with a design in that same super high relief style without rims and make a run of 50 or so cast 10-troy-ounce rounds. For the fun of knowing that only 50 of those exist. I've got some artist friends; will ask them if they'd be interested in making the master clay model.

Chinese design so think of it as a bit of karma !

I would be interested.....keep us in the loop for the future.

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Thu, Oct 22, 2015 - 7:07am
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Funny you proposed a Chinese design...

The artist I am going to ask is Chinese!

(and also just happens to be my spouse wink)

Thu, Oct 22, 2015 - 7:58am
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lol. I rest my case

lol. I rest my case :)

Looking forward to the outcome....I'd also be interested in having a smaller one done in au if the design could fit well.

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Thu, Oct 22, 2015 - 10:33am
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OK, just as a follow through

OK, just as a follow through on th BTTF release, there are now 675 DeLoreans available at Perth Bullion but zero hoverboards.

The fact that the hoverboards and Deloreans sold out within a day of release is a record for a non lunar coin for the Perth Mint (previous record was 4 days) and bodes well for the hoverboard (lower mintage) but is a wait and see on The DeLorean.

It may seem that the 7,500 mintage may have just been a bit too high but I will reserve judgment for a few weeks to see if they sell out at Perth Bullion in that time (Perth Bullion may have stymied themselves and bought too many on allocation and can't shift them due to shipping costs whereas the Perth Mint shipped for free, hence the disparity).

Either way, we shall see. And either way I am happy to have a bit of my memories as a youth with me :) as an indulgence and if SHTF and silver rockets in price, well then, hey, no sweat...it paid for itself.

"I found a flaw in the model that I perceived is the critical functioning structure that defines how the world works." - Alan Greenspan, October 2008 WTF ! Now you tell us !!!
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