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Thu, Oct 8, 2015 - 3:29pm (Reply to #121)
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ATB Sets

Always nice to add another piece to a set like that . Is it the bullion version or the Numismatic with the P Mint mark?

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Thu, Oct 8, 2015 - 3:33pm
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Bullion

Bullion

Thu, Oct 8, 2015 - 7:52pm (Reply to #102)
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@ ag1969: Aussie stockhorse

“Don't walk behind me; I may not lead. Don't walk in front of me; I may not follow. Just walk beside me and be my friend.” ― Albert Camus
Fri, Oct 9, 2015 - 2:56am
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Commemerative half dollars from 1892 to 1954

AG ~ I agree these are amazing. have a BU set I am working on. Hope to have it complete by the time I have a grandchild, 20+ years or so. love the ship on the 1892. that side is obverse in my book as that CC grill kills half the coin. will go with the Oregon Trail 33D if i had a choice. love my natives, esp in BU.

https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-explorer/silver-commemoratives-pscid-71/1933-d-oregon-trail-50c-ms-coinid-19343

That they are different is why I collect them. also why I am interested in the perth stock horse. kookaburra/lunar and adding stock horse going forward as the 3rd perth 1 oz silver coins i am collecting. tried some koalas, wedge tails, proofs, high relief, gilt, colorized et. al. hence

i have a bunch of slabs and box w/COA coins that i am looking to move b/c i realize space is gone and i can not collect everything. has there ever been thought or discussion around setting up some sort of barter or trading here in the CCD? just thinking out loud. i would rather do that than list them and have to deal w/ ebay/paypal shipping and fees. plus this could maybe help others who are looking to do the same. 

no better time than now
Fri, Oct 9, 2015 - 7:10am
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Benny

The whole set huh? That is pretty aggressive. The prices on these are insane. I don't have many. 1892-3. I a couple of the stone mountain, a couple of the Lexington Concord,, Rhode Island, and 1948-1954. I would love to get my hands on CT because that is where I am from. I am not actively trying to get the whole set, but when they present themselves at a price I can afford, I snag them.

I also have a crapload of the 1982 George Washington and 1993 Thomas Jefferson commems. I bought a box of 20 slabbed 1993 PF69 DCAM NGC for $200 about a year ago on ebay, and I probably have 50 or so of the GW's.

I guess I just like silver half dollars. I have a bag of 64's, a bag of Franklins, a bag of Walking Liberty, Around 50 Barbers, and even have a nice one from 1843.

Something about the size and weight of the US silver half that makes me happy.

Fri, Oct 9, 2015 - 7:16am
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Another coin I really like...

... Is the Canada Silver Dollar 1935-1967. I have them all except 45,46 and 48. Most I have multiple uncirc. Until recently you could pick these up on the cheap.

Fri, Oct 9, 2015 - 7:23am
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Steve W

Thank you for that info on the stockhorse. 10 years huh? I did not realize these were produced for that German dealer either. But here is another privately minted Perth COin I own.

https://www.texmetals.com/1-2-oz-silver-perth-houston-sister-cities-coin...

I love all things Perth Mint. They make great coins.

Fri, Oct 9, 2015 - 8:56am
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Talking of things German,

Talking of things German, things about to get a whole lot stricter

The third draft of the amendment of the Law on the Protection of Cultural Heritage – attempt at a summary. Been tracking this for a year or so and anyway, I'll let you catch up here....

https://www.coinsweekly.com/en/News/4?&id=3682&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=CoinsWeekly+08.10.2015

The ramifications for those that spend big money on old coins are clear....you aint going anywhere...it should create a huge black market there....

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Fri, Oct 9, 2015 - 1:50pm
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So, a bit Underwhelming

1/25th an ounce... guess no surprise. I received my 1/25 RCM Gold Sea Creatures series coin. Nicely struck and presented, though just lacks the wow factor. I mean the plastic capsule weighs more than the item it contains. Oh well, a lil nip at the Numismatic side of things, and maybe with the low mintage of only 7000, it will hold up. If it weren't for that, I would be content with, say, 2 of the Maplegram coins for the same cost. I really like the Canadian stuff, though am from the U.S.

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Fri, Oct 9, 2015 - 2:22pm
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Whatever! If you like the coin, and can afford it, buy it!

Here is how I look at it. If I have any "savings" I am going to buy some numi (1921 Peace Dollar), or semi numi (Perth Mint Stuff). About 20% for me. The rest of my savings, I put into Official Bullion and Bullion, or "junk." It makes savings fun for me. I don't take the time to figure out my dollar cost average and the rest of that crap that wastes my time trying figure out the best time to spend my fiat by following charts and patterns and manipulations and bullshit. I simply don't have the time nor will to live my life like that. If I have some extra fiat, I consider it a gift that I can still trade it for real, honest money. There are a lot of people who have this little bit of extra fiat, and they just have not asked the right questions because they have no idea what freedom even is anymore.

The rest is ust flow and energy. My intent to purchase real money, and what feels right to me at the time. When I have dollars to spend on silver, I truly enjoy the process of "going shopping". Yeah, there are some coins I would like to have,, and sometimes they pop up when I am shopping and I get them, and sometimes I buy 1 oz bars, or eagles or ten oz bars, as long as I stick somewhat close to my 80/20.

The reason I like 20% or so in numi is because A) it is fun, and fun is good, and 2) In times like right now where the price is beaten to hell by bad people, The Perth Mint kind of stuff has done quite well. If I ever do need to sell in a time like this, that 20% will have made some gains, and won't be as painful to sell, and hold the bullion type stuff for the end of the dollar, or devaluation thereof. 

Could I do a lot of maths and get a few more ounces over the course of the year? Probably, but it would take away the fun. I believe this will put me in a good situation for a mathematical certainty, and the smart guys can be positioned a little ahead of me when that day arrives. I've accepted that and made it fun, and my kids are learning what it means to be truly free. I have said it before and I will say it again: Slaves do not desire to be free, they have no idea what freedom is. Slaves desire to be masters because it is all they know that could possibly be better than their current lot in life. So it is important to me to make it about silver and not about slave dollars.

So anyway, what I am trying to say is fuck it! Enjoy your Sea Creatures coin. It is yours and no one else's. That is a great, great thing....

Fri, Oct 9, 2015 - 4:37pm
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Even a 25th of an ounce...

Is more than most people have, so in that respect, I feel fortunate to be able and attain such items, however small. After all, they are of the collectable, fun side of stacking. I have my stash of dingy old pre '64 U.S. 90% silver coin too ;) That brings up the the idea of setting aside pre '82 pennies, as unlike newer counterparts, are made of copper. Canada has done away with the penny completely. Also the nickel is under constant scrutiny as it is generally worth more in metal content than face value. There are changes proposed on regular basis to make changes to the present nickle. My parents were born in the 50's, so they used silver coinage, though we're young and never gave it much thought transitioning to clad. Even now, as adults, they were pretty much in the dark that a dime from their childhood was now worth around a dollar in silver. So I jar copper pennies, which in 3 years have only attained 3 small pickle jars from pocket change. Save all nickle in rolls and have around $100 worth. So either I am crazy, or in years to come, my be happy to have these old dingy coins attained at face value.

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Fri, Oct 9, 2015 - 7:06pm
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Pennies and Nickels

I buy the Nickels because they do not need to be sorted like the pennies. I have 9 $100 boxes of nickels in my basement.

I also just became the proud owner of this:

I come from a long line of Boston Irish Red Sox Fans. I also picked up the 2016 Perth 1 oz Year of the monkey, (2) 1982 BU Libertads, (3) 2016 Kangaroos.

I also spied today that one company on ebay is selling the Pamp Suisse Year of the Monkey 1 oz silver bar. They want too much for it, but it is nice to see them rolling out as I also have that whole series. I have the dragon, snake, horse and goat, so it is time to start keeping my eye out for a good deal on the monkey. These bars are really nice:

PAMP: Year of the Monkey

They also make them in 10 gram and 100 gram.

Happy Stackollecting!

Fri, Oct 9, 2015 - 7:36pm
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Didn't ...

Kyle Bass grab a shit ton of nickles? I mean, it's yet another form of diversification really. I bet there's even a few Buffalo's and war nickles in a lot like you have there Ag. Was doing a bit of coin roll hunting last winter, but the girls at the local bank were about to have a stroke that someone else might be in on 'their' silver coins. Lol. (And very few at that) My friend's sister works at a local bank and said they divide all the silver coin up each week among all the tellers and that way there is no fights. Another guy I know worked as a cashier at his family's grocery store for about 10 years. In that time he had some crazy storys, but the topper for me was when he had an ol drunk of a customer buy beer with a $5 coin... $5 GOLD coin!

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Fri, Oct 9, 2015 - 8:06pm
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Well Gramp

I did search 1 box way back when. I found 1 Buffalo and no war. I like those $100 boxes. They are packaged well and stack very nicely in a corner.

And this is for all of you that like the Stockhorse Series

Sun, Oct 11, 2015 - 4:36am
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I know this is just a gammy

I know this is just a gammy ole coin but there is something about one of the gabillions of Libertads from 1983 that just says, "Yes, I am a good looking coin" and it has a smaller diameter and is chunkier than the newer ones. I couldn't help but pick it up a few months ago when I saw it.

1983 Silver Mexican Libertad
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Sun, Oct 11, 2015 - 4:56am
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Hammer

I love my small diameter Libertads! It's a pity they wanted to be like everybody else in the end. The only even chunkier 1 Troy ounce silver coin that I have is a Swiss one.

Tue, Oct 13, 2015 - 9:29pm
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Nazi gold in Spain and official Minting of 19-61 19-62

Was reading comments over at the Giza Death Star, and I found this link:

https://hnumisma.blogspot.it/2011/10/el-oro-nazi-en-espana-y-las.html

Here it is in Google Translate:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&...

A few years before these coinages were held Spain had begun to receive US aid, much needed help for a country long isolated from the international market and lacked infrastructure and wealth but needed to pay. In 1950 the Spanish Institute of Foreign Currency received a loan of 50 million dollars Federal Reserve Bank of New York, citing security part of the gold reserves. This credit was later expanded with 10 million dollars in 1951, increasing the amount of gold deposited as collateral. Repayment obligations were not fulfilled and Spain had to face the payment to the US to gold. But where does all that had emerged since gold as collateral if the Republicans had spent on the purchase of resources during the Civil War?

Wed, Oct 14, 2015 - 6:57am
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I picked up some more 2014

I picked up some more 2014 Libertads as there is a rumour going around that they may change the design next year.

I know that rumour may have been spread by those trying to manufacture news to sell into and it all could be total bull but either way, and knowing the mintage of 2014 Libs already - lower than the previous few years - I thought it wouldn't hurt to pick up a few more. These ones are semi collecting. I won't hesitate to sell if/when the price is right as well as the Britannias that showed up with them, although I would probably keep one or two of each for sentimental reasons.

It'll be interesting to see what the mintage numbers are for the 2015 Libertads. I'm guessing higher than 2014 although the 2015 proofs are very hard to come across suggesting low numbers for them. What does everyone think ? I also hear that production numbers will be ramped up from 2016, if yet another (cough) rumour is to be believed.

"I found a flaw in the model that I perceived is the critical functioning structure that defines how the world works." - Alan Greenspan, October 2008 WTF ! Now you tell us !!!
Wed, Oct 14, 2015 - 7:24am
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I received

My two 1982 Libertads yesterday and they are beautiful BU coins... and chunky! I was inspired by Hammer's previous post so I just bought another 2014 1 oz.

Also, it is with deep regret that I pulled my Mexico box out of deep storage last night to discover that the 5 oz Libertad I have that I thought was a 2014 is actually a 2013.crying

Wed, Oct 14, 2015 - 7:46am
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Why the tears. Is it a

Why the tears. Is it a mintage thing or something else ?

Enquiring minds wish to know ! :)

Busy day in the House of Hammer. That fourth portrait of the queen sovereign (proof) just turned up.

So, that goes with the (new) fifth portrait of the queen sovereign coin, also dated 2015 (proof only issued). That will make a very sellable and collectible historically valuable pair down the road i hope.

"I found a flaw in the model that I perceived is the critical functioning structure that defines how the world works." - Alan Greenspan, October 2008 WTF ! Now you tell us !!!
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