Yes, I know Joseph Farrell speaks of an ancient alien influence, and it might be a distinction without a difference, at least from my perspective, but as I see it, there have been technologically advanced civilizations on this planet before, and it is easier for me to accept that many of them still survive, and are staging an alien influence, then to believe that Aliens actually are watching over us. That's just me.
I've got a question for those from a religious perspective, exactly where did the pyramids come from? Who built them? They obviously predate the Bible, and yet there is no mention of them. The builders had an extremely high level of technology, and worked from principles that are only handed down through esoteric or occult studies.
Now whether or not mankind was influenced by aliens 1 million years ago, is not particularly relevant to me, but if you gave any human beings a hundred millennia to perfect Advanced Technology, we would easily be a spacefaring race.
I've concluded that this has already been done. With such technology, faking an alien invasion will be a cakewalk.
No aliens are required, just the level of knowledge handed down from the ancients.
Michelangelo, Pico della Mirandola, & The Qabalah - Part 1/2
Michelangelo, Pico della Mirandola, & The Qabalah - Part 2/2
Giovanni Pico della Mirandola "Oration on the Dignity of Men"-Year 1486
Oration on the Dignity of Man PDF
Welcome My Brethren and faithful Truth Seekers to this mornings gathering. Open your Hymnals to Dr S. Greer and we shall begin;
Brother Greer has laid out quite a bit of the background for us all. But, he is now what we must refer to as the "Controlled Opposition." To answer the question posed several times above, "Why is he still alive?" Well, because he has agreed to go only so far in his revelations (some might say - That's all that 98% of the faithful seekers can 'handle' anyhow~!!), so in effect he does serve both sides very well. And so he is allowed to continue, but he does lead some brethren astray, and down blind alleys. All by design . ((camping-out in the desert and "calling-in" some ufo's - Oh Please! - get real~!)). After you absorb all he has revealed, and just as L said, you will be faced with a mountain of questions. Read all you want of him, watch all the videos, but to go any further in answering that mountain of questions, you will have to seek elsewhere. What the good Doctor can NOT say is this;
"You want the Truth? You want Disclosure? You can't handle the truth. You already have it in living color, summarized and in dumbed-down version, all laid-out for you. Watch the "Men In Black" trilogy. Except for what we call the addition of some , "Hollywoodization", that series pretty much sums up the current and recent past History of the situation - Well, Except that the Insectoids got a bit of a smear, (ha-ha). That role should have been portrayed by the Reptoids."
But by agreement with the sponsors, that was not to be allowed, some facts were changed to protect the guilty. And obviously the subject of the "standing agreements", between the Blk gov and certain factions of the ETs, were avoided because that would cast too much light on very (beyond) top secret affairs.
OBTW, the Men in Black are the most visible soldiers of the Blk Ops. Go ahead and research them. I'll be here.......................................
OK, I will.... Go where? I'd like to see the truth I can't handle. Tell me where to look or where to start, I'll give it a shot.
Re; da Men in Black. That is one tiny avenue where I have come up empty. I have researched the "UFO Phenomena" (whatta BS term, made-up to cover-up what is already well well well known!), to a post-doctoral level - just believe me on that, and That MIB issue has me stumped. Maybe I need to re-address that one myself. I'm sorta tied-up with other research avenues right now. I don't know who they work for, whether they are MILABs or whether they are hybrids or whether they are pure Ets, with specific robotic functions - like the Greys.
I do know that IF you have a real encounter - with one of our "UFOs" (80% chance), or one of the 'real' ETs (20% chance), AND you go out and publicize it, you will very often get a visit from the MIB. Both Ancient Aliens and Hanger 1, have done episodes on this (+) plenty of YouTube videos. After they leave you may have no recollection of the visit, or you might just recall their arrival and departure. They do possess the 'mind-wipe' and the "re-programming" capability, and they employ it with their own on site discretion - probably according to the type and level of interaction with the ETs, that you've experienced.
As far as other research topics, you need to let me know where you are in your search. No sense dropping you into Differential Equations before you've had Algebra.
For instance, are you comfortable with Earth having (at very least) 300 ET types currently present, and interactions with 50 - 60 of them, both hostile and benevolent?
Yah, and most probably we will need a new thread.............................
“I've got a question for those from a religious perspective, exactly where did the pyramids come from? Who built them? They obviously predate the Bible, and yet there is no mention of them.”.
I am really not that ‘religious’ but I understand what you are asking
Enoch built them imo, Noah’s grandfather. They are pre-flood.
This guy does a good job.
They obviously predate the Bible, and yet there is no mention of them.”
Sorry, Fix but there is
"God has set signs and wonders in the land of Egypt,” Jeremiah 32:20a,
“In that day there will be an altar to the Lord in the heart of Egypt, and a monument to the Lord at its border. It will be a sign and witness to the Lord Almighty in the land of Egypt.: Isaiah 19:-20a
I you have never studied the Great Pyramid, its design, its construction, and it’s alignment astrologically, it’s fascinating stuff.
Here is a three minute primer
BTW – Have not seen the exact video posted by L on Greer, perhaps tonight, but I am very familiar with him and I did several posts on him and his work in the old Zionism thread.
My favorite Men in Black sci-fi episode...
What an incredible find - as usual - you da man.
Especially #3, whatta revelation
I'll go down that rabbit hole. I'll look for MIB vids online with memory erase. MIB exist but as far as I know they share an interest with the visitors, not necessarily in the visitors, but could be both and could be more than one section of MIB.
Sirius disclosure has 61 vids of mil and govt employees willing to go on record that haven't had mind erase. Seems they'd be the first to get wiped? Or they got missed?
Since it appears every branch of the service has protocols and controls in place to deal with their employees that have seen our friends, the controls are very wide spread and so is the experience. That's a lot of control and a lot of experience.
You can hit me with the Dr. level stuff. I can handle it. :-) We can start a new forum or you can PM. Your choice.
It wouldn't surprise me if Dr Greer hasn't exposed everything he knows, but the question would be what and why? Could be insurance? Just asking....
I think "controlled opposition" describes Steven Greer very well, that's my take on him, I just used different words.
It's Funny, but I was actually going to ask you about him at some point in the near future, regarding his $100,000 offer.
It's not in the video that Big L posted, but it is in others. Would you consider such an offer bullshit at this point?
The offer in itself is what made me highly suspicious of him, after telling everyone not to go to the patent office, just bring your invention directly to him… just another way to make it disappear. At least that's my take on it.
That does bring up another question though, (Hypothetically speaking), what would you do with such a gizmo?
PS, no need to start a men in Black thread, it fits here perfectly.
JJ…""God has set signs and wonders in the land of Egypt,”
Noah's grandfather built them? All of them? He must have been a very busy man, because they're all over the planet. Not just in Egypt.
As far as I'm concerned, they represent hard core evidence of a technologically advanced Global civilization prior to the great flood. I know that they've been more recently categorized as tombs, or monuments to God, but I've already concluded that they are technology. Some say power generation plants, some say interdimensional portals, although you don't necessarily have to pick one, the principles they operate on could serve both purposes.
My theory is they were built buy a ancient "breakaway civilization", that passed themselves off as gods to the locals that had long since lost all concepts of their origins.
Some say they came from Mars, there are similar structures there, but it appears to be only in Cedonia.
If human origins are millions of years old, I find it highly unlikely that life originated on Mars, there just isn't much evidence of a global civilization, not like there is here in that same timeframe.
I enjoy the stories on ancient origins of man, because whatever happened, is cyclical, and it looks like we are entering another cycle of a genocidal cleansing of humanity on earth. (Just like the days of Noah).
I don't think Noah's flood was by any stretch the first cycle, it's more probable that there were many before.
abguy4 wrote: . But, he is now what we must refer to as the "Controlled Opposition." To answer the question posed several times above, "Why is he still alive?" Well, because he has agreed to go only so far in his revelations (some might say - That's all that 98% of the faithful seekers can 'handle' anyhow~!!), so in effect he does serve both sides very well. And so he is allowed to continue, but he does lead some brethren astray, and down blind alleys. All by design . ((camping-out in the desert and "calling-in" some ufo's - Oh Please! - get real~!)).
. But, he is now what we must refer to as the "Controlled Opposition." To answer the question posed several times above, "Why is he still alive?" Well, because he has agreed to go only so far in his revelations (some might say - That's all that 98% of the faithful seekers can 'handle' anyhow~!!), so in effect he does serve both sides very well. And so he is allowed to continue, but he does lead some brethren astray, and down blind alleys. All by design . ((camping-out in the desert and "calling-in" some ufo's - Oh Please! - get real~!)).
Mr. Fix wrote:
Putin’s going to cut through these guys like a tornado through a trailer park. Yes, ISIS has had some success against the bedraggled Iraqi and Syrian armies. But now they’re up-against the A Team where they are clearly out of their league. Rolling up these cutthroats is going to take a lot less time than anyone figured.
Russian bombers are already destroying ammo dumps, fuel depots, heavy military hardware, command posts, anything that enhances ISIS’s ability to wage war. The new anti-terror coalition is going to cut supply lines and hang the jihadis out to dry. And the whole operation is going to be wrapped up before Uncle Sam even get’s his boots laced. https://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article52567.html
Sure, we can discuss the whole premise of who's actually in control, who's at the top of the pyramid…
If you go with the likes of David Icke, it's the reptilian's, but I think the Technology was for the most part buried here on earth a very long time ago, the stuff that Nazi Germany was into during World War II, those countless trips to Antarctica, could there be a civilization living subterranean there? Have they passed themselves off as aliens? Obviously, theUnited States president isn't actually in charge of anything, does he answer to these ET's?
Could we also call these ET's "Fallen Angels"? Or even"Demons from hell"? After all, even the elites are tunneling themselves bunkers under the ground now, is this any different than "demonic forces that reside in the bowels of the earth"?
Sooner or later, it had to start somewhere, but you sure as heck don't need extraterrestrials to stage an alien invasion anymore. I don't think that's been required for a very, very, very long time. We're talking millions of years.
"...............regarding his $100,000 offer."
Yah, way back at the turn of the century, when I was building my own FE device, I was also watching Dr Greer and his videos. In one of his early releases, back in the 90's, he made a similar plea for FE scientists to come forward. No 100K offer attached - just assistance in promotion, etc. He makes that plea in the second half of a video where he describes an Israeli scientist who approached him with a totally complete working working device, and they were proceeding to gather investors and market and sell, when all of a sudden his scientist is killed or totally disappears (I forget which). Wait a minute Doctor. You just told us that the last guy got killed for partnering with you. How does that encourage me to pack up my toys and trot down to see you? So No, I did not contact him. Something is terribly amiss with that message, agreed?
OBTW, further in regards to the good doctor;
As I was listening to that old video again, I was struck with the realization that - other than relating stories of his personal interactions with some dignitaries, he does not divulge anything(!) that I have not heard elsewhere, in books or on the net. And I also take exception to his saying that presidents are not briefed on the ufo issue. There is a very well known story that Nixon, one night while in Florida, went over and picked-up Jackie Gleason and took him to a nearby AF Base and showed him an operational flying saucer. I'm gonna bet it was one of ours, FWIW. Gleason was a rabid student of all things ufo, and Nixon apparently wanted to chum around with the Stars. Also I recently read a transcript of the briefing of Reagan on the subject. Daddy Bush needed no such briefings. Clinton is lying, (shocked aren't yah~!?). So the doctor is being fed mis-info, or he is purposely covering and misleading.
"...........what would you do with such a gizmo?"
G. D. good question, and certainly a part of my decision not to go further with my build. Endless stories on the net of guys disappearing, getting threatened, family threatened, labs trashed, notes stolen, lawsuits, credit destroyed, arrested for child porn (that's a favorite BTW). I do not even know if it would be sufficient to go to China or Russia or India, because not only would you be at the mercy of a strange environment and language barriers etc., but you would be even more expendable. I have heard of approximately 20 - 25 working devices. None of them has penetrated the marketplace. I hate to spread fear. Seriously. But I know guys who weren't even near showing their prototypes, who were shut down, me included. Maybe the environment has changed. Maybe Keshe in Iran or that Mahabarata dude in India can stay alive somehow. Long winded way to say sadly...............IDNK.
Fix, Before I answer. Just to keep score. The war in Syria has now expanded into Turkey. Besides, encroaching on Turkey airspace, I heard a report, not confirmed, that there was some bombing done. Weapon depots?
I'm not talking about control as in chain of command, I'm specifically speaking about frequencies. Forget alien invasion. Arcturians, Sirians etc... have nothing to do with reptiles. Different ball of wax.
Did you know that an acupuncture needle works not only because it stimulates a point among the energy meridians, it is actually an antenna channeling invisible frequencies in the body? I'm not talking AM/FM
The ability to channel invisible frequencies in the air is the ability to influence the environment. You could put angry, fearful frequencies in the air. You see on tv all the time.
Isn't the science of prayer, essentially about frequency? Words and rhythms are frequency. Fuck off is a different frequency that divine love. Yeah? Emoto taught us that. Certainly enough anecdotal evidence to make you go hmmm.
Reiki practioners are said to bring energy through their hands. By using very secret symbols taught to them in a private initiation to be open to channel this frequency.
Well, they are not so secret anymore. Everybody and their mom is a reiki practioner these days. It's like ground floor energy healing. Most haven't figured out you don't need symbols but they are like a prayer. Words are symbols. Are they not? Dear God help me?
You could create a symbol for that prayer to have the same effect.
Numbers are symbols of geometric realities. Are they not?
Combinations of numbers and patterns are frequencies.
Somebody purports that these are symbols of our new financial system. Vibrationally
You know anything about the historical significance of obelisks?
New York City
You know if these things have frequency capabilities?
Frequencies, radionic machines, crystaline structures, free energy, anti gravity, The Philadelphia project. FREQUENCIES>
Could I keep you in fear without words Fix? Theoretically could you stop all wars with frequency? Is the bible frequency? Is there a rhythm and vibration that has nothing to do with the narrative? So I guess the answer is it's only relevant IF you recognize there are life forms who can play with frequencies for most humans have no context to using frequencies in their daily life. MOST. Not all.
"......................................it's what I didn't hear him say that is what I'd be looking for."
In a word..... You are totally correct - it's what you don't hear him say, (along with some precise mis-info too), that has me so wary of him. There are soo many names and places and events that he avoids. Just one glaring example, Dulce, NM is infamous as a DUMB, Deep Underground Military Base, that has been the main USAF provided residence for ETs performing genetic experiments, cross-breeding, dna slicing, etc. IF you wanted to make contact and get some 'disclosure' wouldn't that Base be tops on yur hit list? But, no, he instead pretends to want to talk to the good ETs that blink their lights at him at night out on the beach. Seriously???
And Dulce is never mentioned? Mmmmmmmmm
"Again, everything I heard pertained to one issue, who controls the information. Do you have any arguments with that facet of his presentation?"
Again...agreed. That is the central issue of course. And they hide in the shadows.
That reminds me of another story. The Doctor was presenting at a conference back 4 or 5 years ago in Germany(?). One part of his presentation was emphasizing how the ETs were all so spiritually advanced and they all wanted to bestow incredible gifts and knowledge on Earthlings. Well, Kerry Cassidy who was also a presenter there , broke-up the conference with her angry rebuttal to him. You see, it's just not possible to even begin a study of the ufo subject without being confronted with mutilations, abductions, and terrifying stories. The fact is that at least some of the ETs are NOT trying to advance humanity - they Are in fact trying to subjugate and enslave, and they're doing a damn fine job of it. They are the ones who hold the main sway with our Gov. You need look no further.
So.... once again we aee the doctor on the wrong side of the truth. He just can't be that naive.
There are indeed very war like species and there are the higher consciousness beings. My guess is the evil ones get more attention because they are more hands on then the higher consciousness beings simply because higher consciousness beings know not to mettle in other people's business.
The fact he doesn't talk about the evil ones might just be it's not his cup of tea but if you are taking about how they can effect reality down here, I guess you got to include them. No question.
As far as me wanting disclosure, yeah, I guess I'd raid DUMB. Personally, I don't want contact, a call for disclosure or am I going to set foot on a military base. That's Alex Jone's type job. If I wanted to make contact, I'd go another route. My basic problem is the assumption that we think they need welcoming parties.
Anyway, down the rabbit hole we go.
Speaking of Alex Jones and Turkey...... No wonder Russian military fighters went for a leisure stroll over Turkey today.
TIDBIT: YESTERDAY’S “FREEDOM ...
Posted on October 6, 2015 by Joseph P. Farrell • 2 Comments
This is an intriguing report from Alex Jones' website, which I do not often reference here, about a recent Pentagon document warning about how American middle east policy could have significant blowback, and they went ahead and did it anyway; note the role of Turkey... think "readjusting the results of World War One" here:
Pentagon report predicted West’s support for Islamist rebels would create ISIS
“Noah's grandfather built them? All of them? He must have been a very busy man, because they're all over the planet. Not just in Egypt.”
Sorry mis-typed, Enoch was actually Noah’s Great grandfather, Methuselah, was Noah’s grandfather, left off the Great.
No, he did not build them all, we were discussing the Great pyramid, and the one(s) at at Giza, the three that match the stars in Orion’s belt, it was not a tomb, when they broke in to King’s chamber in there was nothing in it.
Like I have said before, Satan is a copy cat, cannot create, only can only imitate, and yes, there are these structures all over the world.' Satan 'Apeing' God again, that is what he does. That's all he does.
“As far as I'm concerned, they represent hard core evidence of a technologically advanced Global civilization prior to the great flood.”
100% agree with that, yet all pre-flood.
“My theory is they were built buy a ancient "breakaway civilization", that passed themselves off as gods to the locals that had long since lost all concepts of their origins”.
That’s a kind of half truth. Some knew their origins, they were ones in the boat.
The ‘son’s of god’, from (Gen 6) is a term always used for ‘Angels’ in the OT, they did come down here and have offspring with the ‘Daughters of Adam’ and produced hybrids, half angelic, - half human. Giants……… which means ‘earth- born’ in the Greek, or Nephilim…… ‘fallen ones’ in the Hebrew.
Ever ask yourself or wonder …. Why did God “have to do the whole planet’? Seriously… the whole planet???, Just a vengeful Entity like so many like to describe Him, or possibly He was Just having a bad day? Or was there a very good reason for the great flood of Noah. (Hint; Remember Angels are never offered Redemption in scripture, only Adamic man. ie: the Son of Man, (Adam) title for Jesus)
Actually ........ we are told why ……
“These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.”.
‘The word ‘generations’ means ‘lineage’……. Noah and the others in the ark were only ones left that that were not tainted with angelic blood - DNA. Imho.
“I enjoy the stories on ancient origins of man, because whatever happened, is cyclical, and it looks like we are entering another cycle of a genocidal cleansing of humanity on earth. (Just like the days of Noah).”
These conditions are Identical to the Days of Noah and yes, we are about to start killing each other off. But according to scripture Noah lived 950 years, before, during, and after the flood. He literally saw the ‘sons of god’.
This discussion about Greer and his project actually dovetails perfectly as to what the Bible teaches will reemerge / happens at the end of this age. What we are seeing right now. Have followed Greer for years; go rent his movie ‘Sirius” with the little guy they found that they are now studying its fascinating. Secular, no Bible quotes at all what so ever so you will like that part Its DNA is part indigenous Indian, and the other half they have no clue. Non – human.
Someone asked me to watch the movie and comment on it a few years ago in ‘Old Zionism’. I will see if I can find that post from old Zionism tomorrow and put it up for you.
Did not have time tonight to watch this latest video from Greer that is being discussed, had another commitment, but will if anyone wants another perspective, what could it hurt if all are truly so open minded. I actually get his newsletter and read them.
Cute little fella, don't you think? Doesn’t even need a Halloween costume.
I went and found it. Sirius from 8.8.2013