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Mon, Oct 5, 2015 - 8:17pm
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Just obeying the law... and just following orders

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Mon, Oct 5, 2015 - 8:25pm
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No, Dr Greer is a former ER doc. Has been researching 'UFO's for a very long time. Advised those at highest levels of US and other gov's. Briefed Potus(s), joint chiefs, etc. etc. etc.

Started the Disclosure Project to force info into the open because gov's won't/can't do it because they aren't in control of it. 

Has a 'protocol' for contacting 'aliens' and has released this protocol. Wildly interesting.

Mon, Oct 5, 2015 - 9:30pm
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Shouldn't have clicked on the video, but I did. Now I'm totally absorbed. Hot Shit!! I get the feeling this guy is the real deal. The ET/UFO area is filled with so much crap that I generally don't listen to much of it. Some of it is kindergarten, mockery, and hocus pocus but this guy seems totally legit. Even Farrell who I like for his insightful geopolitical commentary bores me a bit with his Cosmic war stuff because it takes two books to figure out what is already on record (if you know where to look) But I understand why he has to do that to work with the agnostic minds. But this guy had me hooked in the first five minutes. And his interaction with the secret government is over the top. So not even the CIA is in charge? Oh yeah, I'm interested!!! His illusion that there isn't a constitutional government fell away a long time ago. Remote viewing, inter stellar diplomacy !!! Oh yeah, This is sweet!! @Fix This answers your question about what they know!! We haven't needed any engines for the last 60 years. We don't need oil.

Tue, Oct 6, 2015 - 12:53am
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Man Oh Man

I learned all sorts of new stuff tonight that I was dying to research, but I have been sucked in by the video Big L posted. I am an hour in. Great Stuff!!!

Tue, Oct 6, 2015 - 1:28am (Reply to #684)
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@ Big L

Thank you for posting this.

"Propaganda does not deceive people; it merely helps them to deceive themselves."
Tue, Oct 6, 2015 - 1:43am (Reply to #684)
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@ Big L

Thank you for posting this.

"Propaganda does not deceive people; it merely helps them to deceive themselves."
Tue, Oct 6, 2015 - 1:43am (Reply to #684)
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@ Big L

Thank you for posting this.

"Propaganda does not deceive people; it merely helps them to deceive themselves."
Tue, Oct 6, 2015 - 2:06am
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The perfect system?

Nature abhors a vacuum, One tyrant walks out the door and another enters. There is no utopian government, it is a contradictory phrase, the closest thing to heaven on earth would be an earth without central governments. Hell, Monarchs were more benevolent than these inbred's running the show.

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Tue, Oct 6, 2015 - 4:08am
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TPP... YAY!???

The trite propaganda begins!

Sell out your country to corporatocracy for cheaper cell phone roaming rates...

I'm In! ;-(

"TPP points the way for cheaper global roaming"

Read more: https://www.afr.com/technology/tpp-points-the-way-for-cheaper-global-roaming-20151006-gk2hxp#ixzz3nlzMWSqW

Tue, Oct 6, 2015 - 6:56am
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There's a very good reason the 'ufo' space is filled with quacks. Dr Greer will explain that, if not in this video, one or two of the others cover this. It goes so deep that even Disney was involved. Keep watching.... :-)

I think we need a more accurate name for our 'new friends'. The old names don't fit any more. :-)

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Disclosure

Here is the net net on the hole Greer/disclosure thing as I see it. If you are part of the % of the population (and some of you are) that accepts anything he says, even a small percentage, than the phrase "The Dumbing Down of America" is antiquated. It's Total Fucking Global Amnesia that has been forced upon the population for close to 3500 years. I didn't pull that figure out of my butt. Of course, there is always a % of the population that doesn't buy into the propaganda. If the current official ET narrative blows up, which connects to the antediluvian and Babylonian narrative in a big way, than the ramifications to society would decimate our world paradigm. Besides big oil, marine, car engines, airplanes as we know it disappearing, it would decimate the entire university system, our current understanding of physics, engineering. Farrell has already pointed out that Austrian Economics, and certainly Keynesian Economics, fall off the map once you acknowledge the financial realities of the Breakaway Civilization. Man those college macro and micro economic classes were freakin'a waste of my momma's good money. University systems as they exist disappear. Corporations that provide many of our necessary services, our transportation, heating, refrigeration disappear. Wall Street and Goldman Sachs, as Greer noted in charge of the entire commodity franchise, blows up. Uranium, coal. The entire Muslim religion disappears and the Quaran becomes obsolete. I hear cheers in the peanut gallery but it's not the only one that blows up. There will need to be a lot of side stepping and rewrites because we realize that the earth is more than 5000 years old. Global warming, the flat earth theory (which comes from religious dogma)blows up. Peak oil meme goes Poof. I'm on the same side as Farrell on that one. Total Rockefeller meme that has been eaten up lock, stock and barrel. Steven Spielberg movies go away because the public no longer needs science fiction entertainment and fantasy becomes reality. Hey, even stacking becomes an antiquated idea as humanity has to rethink money systems and government systems. The only thing that doesn't go away is our collective need to fornicate and drink wine on Saturday night. Now if you think I believe any of this is going to happen in my lifetime, than I have some nice tranquil estates to sell you in Syria, safe from the thermonuclear fall out. YOu can spend your days eating figs and evenings entertained by belly dancers. It begins to put NASA's propaganda into perspective. Water on mars, possibility of discovery of life in 5 years? The overlords feeding the peons drippings. Why is this guy still alive?

Tue, Oct 6, 2015 - 7:05am (Reply to #693)
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GL - on S Greer

I can see that you don't like the shadow on the wall based on his take on the whole world/space paradigm, but is there anything in particular that gets up your nose?

For your final question - why is he still alive?: He is one of many slowly peeling the onion. He is credible, pedantic, reasoned and thorough. He has managed to retain support and stay on course for years and years of patient investigation.

The thing that is interesting to me is that there is a whole news industry moving towards what SG & others have been saying for years. Sort of a nexus of ideology/main themes. Sides are being drawn. If you take the mile high view there are all sorts of odd ends moving like they are magnetically connected/attracted to each other. Is this just humans taking pattern matching to extremes (or maybe just me? ) IDNK

I am not an expert in this. I am trying to watch the macro pattern emerge. I have a lot to watch these days.

Stay chilly angel

Tue, Oct 6, 2015 - 8:03am
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I tend to agree with GL that you won't see a lot of this change happen over night. Take another look at that list and imagine people trying to adjust to that kind of change...it will take some generations to make a smooth transition IF control of the process can be taken. I remember a video of Nassim Haramein saying the same thing in essence that these technologies will have to be introduced slowly or a lot of people will die.

Tue, Oct 6, 2015 - 8:13am (Reply to #695)
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Maybe similar to finding tribes in the amazon & introducing them to fast food, TV & war? Second course: porn & corruption.

We can only hope there are better collective souls out there than us. It may be a bit of a reach that they would want to even know us until we actually DO something about the psychopaths running amok. Otherwise they would be better off just leaving this world in quarantine.

Tue, Oct 6, 2015 - 8:32am
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The Stephen Greer flick

I'm quite familiar with his work, he's even offered a $100,000 Prize to anyone that can come up with a free energy machine that would literally displace $100 trillion worth of industry. When I learned he works for the Rockefellers, I lost interest in him.

I think Green Lantern said it well, "Why is this guy still alive?"

The Rockefellers will gleefully kill their own children to keep their secrets. I was interested that his connections with them as explained in the beginning of the video, but it lacks plausibility. There might be a little bit of truth sprinkled in, but for now, I also would be going with Joseph Farrell, in that the "breakaway civilization" is of ancient origins, and not alien.

His suggestion of open sourcing all new technology, step-by-step while in the process of developing it, is a great way to be disappeared, and in our current system, such technology would never be allowed to exist. Even if the $100,000 payment for free energy is genuine, I don't think it would see the light of day if it was ever given to him.

I must say the Rockefellers are getting their moneys worth with him, and I have been aware of the "fake alien invasion" Agenda for a decade now.

As for things changing in our lifetime?

I don't think the elites expects us to live very long. Their empire of lies must collapse before any progress can be made.

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Tue, Oct 6, 2015 - 9:02am
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I'm interested in how you came to the conclusion that Dr Greer is funded by the Rockefellers. Can you point me towards what you've seen that would indicate this?

I agree that 100k for free energy is too low.....

Tue, Oct 6, 2015 - 9:12am (Reply to #694)
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[quote=SilveryBlue]I can

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I can see that you don't like the shadow on the wall based on his take on the whole world/space paradigm, but is there anything in particular that gets up your nose?

[quote] I haven't a clue what you're asking me or even suggesting that I don't like. Secret government controlling our "legitimate" government is not new to me. Contact is not new to me. Their presence here and influence on society is not new to me. It's why I pointed out that comment on Putin by that poster "Walking Dead" He obviously is aware of this dynamic. And what I think bringing in all the information that we can to our current financial and geopolitical realities is the most effect way to analyze world events. What was new for me is the dynamic within top government channels how all this is handled and various factions at work. He obviously has direct experience with all those components. If you want to know what gets my nose bent out of shape is when people participate in a discussion, summarily dismiss these realities and their effect on society, who are basically athiests in terms of UFO ology or whatever would be best to call it. They direct their comments at a personal level to shield their consciousness from this information. I understand why they do it because they have to defend their world views and it would be too much of a shock. Because as was just suggested, the revelation of these things would be too much for psyche's to handle. This is very different than people who tell me they just can't believe based on the evidence. They don't have enough information to make a decision. While I'm not in that space, or state of consciousness regarding the reality of the cosmos', I understand their need and honor their journey to sort out that information. I wouldn't try to force my world view on them. It's those calling quackery because in the end the illusion is maintained by them since they are the greatest enemies of truth. Despite that, I've never been one calling for full disclosure or even cared what kind of bullshit comes through official channels, because at the end of the day, I didn't need them to know what I already know within this paradigm. But I've said from the first day of Turdville, mostly to myself, we won't understand the future of the republic until we incorporate as many inputs as possible that is effecting the fate. I kept calling it the X-factor because the more overt tactic in discussing this stuff didn't go over very well. It's why the only forum I opened was on alternative archeology to start to open this door with a science based approach. But honestly, I learned I don't have the patience to approach this stuff in such an ABC fashion and take the time that would be necessary to put out the mountains of evidence necessary to show how the Antideluvian narrative might be the closests analogue to what is going on here. And I'm not referring to a possibility of some global catastrophe, but the dynamic of power that was prevalent at that time, and how they brought self destruction upon themselves. The wars that took place that are printed overtly on pyramid walls, published by Homer as fiction in the Iliad and the Oddessy and it's just looked at as good literature. Almost every world mythology tells this story and it's relegated to mere fiction. It's a real story and thus I've known for years that these things are as relevant as the price of gold. Greer is a better man than I with is patience, endurance and tenacity but I wasn't called to his path. I have a different one and a different relationship to the star people which won't get published here for all the reasons I stated.
Tue, Oct 6, 2015 - 9:13am
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I have the same questions, why is this guy still alive? Although some close to him in his org. have passed. This comes out in other video's, and the little bit he alludes to is very interesting.

Why has his info ever been allowed on the Internet is a good question. Watching the testimony/witness videos on his web site may offer a clue. Perhaps critical mass has been reached? Perhaps there are opposite forces at work? This is also alluded to in other video's.

I wonder why I never saw the original Nat'l press club presentation, however I think I was consumed with other interests at that time.

There are some loose ends that I'd like to investigate, but overall, I'm pretty well convinced and I even though I'm human and anyone can be fooled, I have an outstanding BS meter.

Tue, Oct 6, 2015 - 9:26am
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First off, thanks for posting that video, it's a discussion well worth having. As far as Rockefeller funding, his entire show before a mock Congress on the topic of disclosure was funded and organized by the Rockefellers, and I'm pretty sure he alluded to it in the video presentation that I watch last night, as far as other sources, I would have to go back about two years to figure out where I read that, but in the entire scheme of things, it just makes sense. I personally researched a lot of Steven Greer's claims, some can be corroborated, while others just seem to support an agenda.

I know I've been called to the carpet in the past for not providing links to certain assertions, and maybe tonight when I get off of work, I'll delve into it a little bit further. In the meantime, I can only speak from my own experience, and state emphatically that it just doesn't pass the smell test.

Steven Greer did layout a very specific criteria for his $100,000 payment, which is something I have adopted as a personal goal. What the heck? It's just common sense verifiable science. Whether I would seek him out or not, is in fact an open question, and I guess I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

I probably should have brought this topic up a couple of years ago, Believe it or not, I only post a fraction of my research here.

The authenticity of Stephen Greer's assertions is a topic I put it on a shelf labeled "things to get back to" when it becomes relevant.

It's quickly becoming quite relevant.

I'm leaving for work now, have a nice day.

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Tue, Oct 6, 2015 - 9:34am (Reply to #697)
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Mr. Fix wrote: I also would

Mr. Fix wrote:
I also would be going with Joseph Farrell, in that the "breakaway civilization" is of ancient origins, and not alien.
You need to read his book Cosmic Wars and maybe listen or relisten to some of his talks at the Secret Space Conference as well as some of his colleagues. Seems to me he has been very consistent pointing where technology might have been gotten from off earth intelligence. He has a different audience and thus has to be impeccable with his support of his theories to have a chance at retaining subscribership and earning a living. There are numerous people in the same position where being too overt would threaten their livelihood. Less from the overloads, and more due to the fact that for even the conspiracy theory crowd within the geopolitical area, some of this stuff is even too far fetched for them. Fix said "The authenticity of Stephen Greer's assertions is a topic I put it on a shelf labeled "things to get back to" when it becomes relevant." That's the point. They don't want you to believe it's relevant right now! If you wait for Jim Willie to start talking about, or Quayle, it's past relevant. It's been relevant for 3500 years because it's effect on society has been immeasurable, overtly hidden. It might NEVER be relevant if you wait for more mainstream sources to tell you it is. And I do count Willie as a mainstream source within alternative channels. It's out of his perview at least publicly. Do you have any idea the speculative effect of the green guys stamping the grass with those funny little designs? It's more than pretty art, or pranksters with fancy lawn mowers.
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