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Sat, Sep 26, 2015 - 2:02am
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Ruffian

Please don't read anything personal into my posts. I make fun of different things but never have the intent to hurt or harm anyone. 

This new thread is looking like a winner.

So many different yet respectful views.

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Sat, Sep 26, 2015 - 2:37am
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the great thing here

Is that people are ready to give their heart and not be afraid of the consequences.

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Sat, Sep 26, 2015 - 3:06am
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Fluctuations

At the bank, a lovely Asian lady is trying to exchange yen for dollar.

It was obvious she was a little irritated . . . She ask the teller,

“Yesterday, I get two hunat dollar fo yen. Today I only get hunat eighty? Why it change?”

The teller shrugged his shoulders and said, “Fluctuations.”

The Asian lady replies, “Fluc you white people too”

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Sat, Sep 26, 2015 - 3:35am
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'Sounds great, I'll have the same'.

An Aussie trucker walks into an outback cafe' with a full-grown emu behind him.

The waitress asks them for their orders. 

The truckie says, 'A hamburger, chips and a coke,' and turns to the emu, 'What's yours?'

'Sounds great, I'll have the same,' says the emu. 

A short time later the waitress returns with the order 'That will be $9.40 please,' and he reaches into his pocket and pulls out the exact change and pays.

The next day, the man and the emu come again and he says, 'A hamburger, chips and a coke.' 

The emu says, ' Sounds great, I'll have the same.'

Again the truckie reaches into his pocket and pays with exact change. 

This becomes routine until the two enter again. 'The usual?' asks the waitress.

'No, it's Friday night, so I'll have a steak, baked potato and a salad,' says the man.. 

' Same for me,' says the emu.

Shortly the waitress brings the order and says, 'That will be $32.62.' 

Once again the man pulls the exact change out of his pocket and places it on the table.

The waitress cannot hold back her curiosity any longer. 'Excuse me mate, how do you manage to always pull the exact change from your pocket every time?' 

'Well, love' says the trucker, 'a few years ago, I was cleaning out the back shed, and found an old lamp. When I cleaned it, a Genie appeared and offered me two wishes.

My first wish was that if I ever had to pay for anything, I would just put my hand in my pocket and the right amount of money would always be there.' 

'That's brilliant!' says the waitress. 'Most people would ask for a million dollars or something, but you'll always be as rich as you want, for as long as you live!'

'That's right. Whether it's a gallon of milk or a Rolls Royce, the exact money is always there.' says the man. 

Still curious the waitress asks, 'What's with the emu?'

The trucker pauses, sighs, and answers, 'My second wish was for a tall bird with a big ass and long legs, who agrees with everything I say.'

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb
Sat, Sep 26, 2015 - 4:01am
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Cameron spills the beans

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Sat, Sep 26, 2015 - 4:21am
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Some random quotes that G.L. has posted over the years

When a man steals your wife, there is no better revenge than to let him keep her.
David Bissonette 



By all means marry. If you get a good wife, you'll be happy. If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher.
Socrates

Woman inspires us to great things, and prevents us from achieving them.
Anonymous

The great question... which I have not been able to answer... is, "What does a woman want?"
Dumas

I had some words with my wife, and she had some paragraphs with me.
Sigmund Freud

'Some people ask the secret of our long marriage. We take time to go to a restaurant two times a week. A little candlelight, dinner, soft music and dancing. She goes Tuesdays, I go Fridays.'
Anonymous

'There's a way of transferring funds that is even faster than electronic banking. It's called marriage.'
Sam Kinison

'I've had bad luck with both my wives.
The first one left me, and the second one didn't.'
James Holt McGavra

Two secrets to keep your marriage brimming
1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it,
2. Whenever you're right, shut up.
Patrick Murra

The most effective way to remember your wife's birthday is to forget it once....
Nash

You know what I did before I married?
Anything I wanted to.
Anonymous

My wife and I were happy for twenty years.
Then we met.
Henny Youngman





First Guy (proudly): 'My wife's an angel!'
Second Guy: 'You're lucky, mine's still alive.'

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Sat, Sep 26, 2015 - 5:12am
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world's shortest books

STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF HIGH RISE BUILDINGS by Dick Cheney

THINGS I LOVE ABOUT BILL
by Hillary Clinton

Sequel:
THINGS I LOVE ABOUT HILLARY
By Bill Clinton

AMELIA EARHART’S GUIDE TO THE PACIFIC

THE AMISH PHONE DIRECTORY

MY PLAN TO FIND THE REAL KILLERS
by O. J. Simpson

EVERYTHING I KNOW
By Nancy Pelosi

THINGS I DID TO DESERVE THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE
by Barack Obama

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Sat, Sep 26, 2015 - 5:34am
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can't find book you want

Wong fook hing book store

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Sat, Sep 26, 2015 - 8:15am
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masters of war - dylan

While we're on the subject.................

Just in case,

You young whipper-snappers might have forgotten where it started;

Bob Dylan - Masters of War - lyrics
Sat, Sep 26, 2015 - 9:06am
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GL....

If it wasn't for the page stuffing.... I'd have missed that video. I know now that when I see the endless crap to go back and look for the buried gold. :-)

Wow. Listened 4 times in a row and will listen many times again. Just stunning info, it explaines so much about what makes us human.

Sat, Sep 26, 2015 - 10:13am (Reply to #492)
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Page stuffing

You mean the neon blue light flashing that means there is good stuff to be found recently buried?

It is just dear old Ata trying to stay relevant despite having nothing to say. Poor old poop. I mean that in the kindest way. If he had read & digested the postings here ate IWWTI or DOTS, he might have to face his demons.

Ignore is a good feature.

Sat, Sep 26, 2015 - 10:17am
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Sandy Hook

The latest on Sandy Hook. Turd is on in the first half of the show.

https://youtu.be/mEobv2jRcyQ

Sat, Sep 26, 2015 - 11:11am
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@ GL

I forgot, my youngest son is still a college student so I had some time this morning, as he is still in bed.

Last post first……

“No pain Jeremiah. Passion! Something you know well. I assume it's true for the majority that come to this site who see's and feels the wrath of government encroachment and even institutional encroachment in our lifes. In the early days of our republic, there were no internet forums. Towns people would gather in the town square to discuss passionately the issues of the day. They were generally an informed bunch of people. 

Everybody wants the same....safe streets for our children to walk, the opportunity to create prosperity, the freedom to practice our religion and also the freedom from religion for those who do not believe in God. They have inalienable rights too.”

I do know passion and Agree 100%, this may be the new town square and I also really just want to live a quiet, peaceable life and perhaps see some grandchildren some day, without government encroachment into every area of my business and life, who doesn’t? From the way things are going that really is not very realistic view. No? If you lived in my neighborhood, I am certain we would be good friends, differences aside as well as the Fix.

Yet, it just struck me you’re an optimist regarding this world.

Do you know the difference between a pessimist and an optimist GL?

The optimist thinks the future is uncertain, the pessimist has more information.

 I am a pessimist with regards to this present world, and its systems. I am. I know too much to be otherwise.

 It’s like C. S. Lewis once said; “People don’t think about the next world until their hopes in this world have been pretty well flattened out”. Any honest assessment of the world and what is going on and where we are headed, will do just that, ‘flatten one out’

Do you really think this will end well given human history???

I guess this all gets back to the larger question and comes full circle to where is this all headed and how will it end???

Why discuss the symptoms?????……..We will get back to this later…..

Your first Post…….

GL, we can swap quotes back and forth on the nature and intent of the Founding Fathers ad nauseaum, probably would be an interesting discussion, but in the end pointless, given where we sit as Nation right now. This present house of cards will come down, it really does not matter how it was put up at its inception and in the long run at this point No? Agree?

We will never get back to the beauty of what we were given by the founding Fathers. Never.

 “I found this guy David Barton and his Christian Nation. For others in the same boat as me who do not know him.”………

Very familiar with Barton, I can appreciate what he is trying to do, but imo he is misguided, he should be reading the passages that clearly, very clearly point to the fact that America, however and by whom was founded, turns – morphs into a communistic, fascist police state in her final form. A “Beast “basically as scripture calls her. Are we on the same page yet GL?????????

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government.

That's why our system of government is a Representational Republic and not a democracy. He didn't say that Christianity is the only thing that works. Democracy is majority rule, it is whatever the mob or majority decides, where as Liberty is based on the two eternal, multi-religious, multi-culture laws. 

Exactly GL, we were founded a Constitutional Republic, You, Fix, Ag and whoever else are afforded your right to believe and practice whatever it is you do, religiously or non, and I have no problem with that, the second amendment is there for a reason. You will get no argument from me over the intent for free trade, free enterprise capitalism, and limited government and especially religious or non religious freedoms.

Is American society, or more so the world extending Christians the same courtesy currently? Maybe not like other parts of the world, but it’s going to get ugly here eventually for believers, count on it.

“Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty” 2 Cor 3:17

“And then you just go on and taking quotes at seemingly random that invoke God and a higher spirit and implying that somehow endorse a Christian nation where it is the foundation of our government is disingenuous. They are making statements about virtues and how and their connection to a higher power and never do they say A christian government. 

Don’t go putting words in my mouth GL; I never said anything about a ‘Christian government’. For the Christians that are somehow trying to impose some sort of ‘Cultural Morality’ upon this Nation via the polling booth, and install the “right people” and bring us back from the abyss, it is a pipe dream imho. That is NOT the role for the Christian, NOR the Church, never has been, never will be. (Ok - Jim - NW VIEW - perhaps that statement contains the post you were asking me for in ToF)

“So when Edgar Cayce the problem with America is that we have forgotten God we trust, he didn't mean a Christian God, rather universal spiritual principles because he wasn't a Christian. He espoused all the things you are say are denounced by the bible, esoteric and all. Psychic, and occult. Yet, right now if we just look at track record, he might be doing better than the Prophets in the bible.”

No, no, no, respectfully, Cayce has nothing to offer, nothing, the prophets in the Bible said this below would happen to the Worlds last, Great Economic, Political and Military Superpower….. Read Daniel 7

 Truth be told this is the future of America………

And the ten horns out of THIS KINGDOM (singular- not ‘Kingdom’s’ – very important point) are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. Dan 7:24 also see verse 7 and 20 - same chapter.

Read the EO’s GL, G.W. Bush confirmed this, but I am too lazy to go back to my old post and find it, but I think it was PPD 50 and 51 if I remember correctly. 10 Governors

THE final beast power also has seven heads (Hint- the seven heads are Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome, the Seventh is America and she is morphed into the eighth…….. a revival one of the first five… any guess who that might be???? Rev 17

2nd Hint…. Starts with a ‘B’……… Martial law anyone??????…….

“I'm a sinner in your eyes with no chance of redemption or going into heaven no matter how nice I've been in my life as long as I don't accept Jesus Christ as my savior.”

No GL, there you go again putting words in my mouth, I don’t condemn you, I like you, I am no better than you, and most assuredly probably a lot worse, I can almost assure you of that. That is not the issue.

Yet, I am not your judge, but there is One who is, and it is not me. Don’t kid yourself. The issue of ‘accepting Jesus’ is a mistaken product of a modern Laodicean Gospel; you won’t find ‘accept Jesus’ anywhere in the Bible. One can “accept Jesus” till the cows come home and it won’t change ones heart. We are however, told and commanded to repent and believe.

GL, if you or anyone wants to know if what the Bible and Christ said is true, just do what he asks and one will find……..

If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.” John 7:17.

The real rub, is that it’s not that mankind can’t, ………… it is that we won’t. Free will right?

 BTW - it is not my Gospel; it’s not Jj’s, Gospel, but the Gospel of God, Rom 1:1, I am just here at TFMR to tell you it’s true and time is running out. When Babylon comes back to full power we may not have the opportunity to be here posting with one another discussing ‘lofty intellectual thoughts’, just trying to stay alive.

In the long run, believe what you want, you will get no argument from me. One best get ready for the above 2 graphics, it’s coming….. and right soon. Use that argument you just vented on me with the modern Gestapo should they come banging on your door. I am sure they will listen patiently with open ears, yet doubt they will, unless you go aggressive, you are no threat to them. They could care less.

Soooo GL…… where to go from here????……..how about this……why don’t you enlighten the forum???

Where is this all headed? How GL, in your opinion, is this all going to play out? Are you and Fix going to topple the EE with your stash of Silver Eagles, Fix’s flux capacitor - generator and some small arms?

Please…… offer us some hope…. Surely your ‘theology’ and worldview have evolved and been worked out past just looking at the symptoms of the problem, how we got here?, No?

Perhaps even to the point that you actually have some hope to offer someone reading in that does not understand, reading these diatribes of ours??? . Surely someone as enlightened as yourself has come to a conclusions as to a solution as to how the bad guys are to be toppled, and what follows post EE?

Please do share your worldview on this, if is that profound, I am sure all could benefit

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silver blue

They are on ignore, it makes 'em shorter, but doesn't make 'em go away. :-)))

Sat, Sep 26, 2015 - 12:57pm (Reply to #495)
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Jeremiah, you are so old agey

that you come off as a caricature of knowledge. You dismiss Edgar Cayce, where we have thousands of pages of first person documented testimony, and instead put all of your faith in a mistranslated, error filled, book put together by the Roman Empire to justify its state religion.

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I have a question, I've been listening to Marcus for the better part of last night and today, and I'm up to the third video in the unraveled programs. Interesting dude, most of his material is consistent with JJ or Jim, as he holds the Bible up as infallible.

His first series on civil laws was excellent, and I could draw a lot of parallels between him and Mark Passio. The second series, has so far mentioned several biblical passages which have been discussed here recently, and he does not seem to apply his usual style of critical thinking towards them.

It is an excellent study of deception, and I will continue with the series to it's end, as I can respect that he has his truth, and quite frankly, I'm seriously beginning to wonder what difference it makes in the end. Mark Passio's contention that natural law is all about property rights, seems to coincide with Marcus, as he uses scripture to support this assertion.

You posted all of this information without sharing any of your thoughts on the topic. I no doubt will have a few of my own in a day or two, he's raised many issues that he he has stated he will get back to, so I am suspending judgment until I here his work in its entirety.

I would appreciate your evaluation of Marcus.

He seems likable enough to me, but as I'm sure you know, from my perspective, he's making some basic assumptions I don't agree with. That's okay, most of his research is quite usable. For example, if I simply substitute the term "natural law" as Marcus describes "God's law", it is so far quite consistent.

He has certainly correctly surmised that religion is a tool used by the state. He's pointing out differences in scripture and what is taught in Catholicism which is where he comes from, as well as mainstream thought regarding religion, And specifically the Bible.

Sometimes I feel like I'm listening to a thought experiment similar to the flat Earth videos that silver 66 posted, unraveling layers of deception until you reach the conclusion that the earth is flat. (Of course I was unconvinced).

Right now, I've got chores to do, and I'm trying to keep my headphones on as I go about my day. I still need to get back to the videos that Green Lantern posted yesterday, because he most certainly nailed one of the great discrepancies that I am currently confronted with, regarding patterns in relationships. I haven't uncovered anything useful until I resolve that one.

In the meantime, have a nice day. wink

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."
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I found Marcus's website 2 years ago (approx) I was quite interested as he was Canadian. I watched all his video, signed up for his webinars and had communication via e-mail with him.

He lays the game out very well, identifies the problem but was frustratingly lite on solutions.

His series of video's motivated me to dive more deeply into reading the bible with the view from a nonreligious angle. To look at it as a playbook to understand the rules here on earth.

Of late Marcus has focused on Karl Lentz and common law remedies for man vs civil law for persons. Karl is very interesting

There is a group at www.private-person.com out in British Columbia that are having good success with common law remedies in Canada

I have posted this link before 

https://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/b-4/page-3.html#docCont

Section 9 lays out the remedy, it is hidden in plain sight, it is just our conditioning that Marcus talks about that prevents us from finding or accepting it

I have not abandoned my BC or SIN as I find them useful interfaces with my person/government and see them as a trust structure

If his ideas are of interest I would suggest a view of website www.lawfulmoneytrust.com David Merril and Michael Joesph have got a really good handle on trust structure and lawful money. That site is a paid site, however the www.savingtosuitorsclub.net is a free site that the lawful money has spun out of.

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Did the squid just stage a coup in Austrailia

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Pope

Did you all catch USAwatchDog Greg just hammers the pope.

“Find the Pope in the Pizza”

Some tidbits on polling. https://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2015/08/libertarian-2016-pres...

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Jeremiah Jr wrote:Do you

Jeremiah Jr wrote:

Do you know the difference between a pessimist and an optimist GL?

Yes

Jeremiah Jr wrote:

The optimist thinks the future is uncertain, the pessimist has more information.

Instead of saying wrong answer, I'll say different answer. The Pessimist has much less information than the optimist. The optimist realizes that as a human he has plenty of bandwidth. That his most precious commodities are is attitude and attention. And if he takes command of those two commodities, he can control them and shift them as needed. It allows somebody to be in the center of any storm and survive and maybe even thrive or at a minimum see the situation in a proper perspective. All situations and circumstances have already been created in the finished kingdom and are a result of collective unconscious decisions that can be changed at the level they were created. There are invisible threads and lessons in all circumstances. But you have to have enough information to see the invisible threads of grace in the most dire situations. It doesn't mean falling into a pile of manure is pleasant. It means there is always a higher perspective. The optimist realizes that no matter how tough things are, that God has given him a gift of the creative faculty and he realizes no matter how bad it is, there is ALWAYS a way. 

I would recommend two children's books. 

Don't take their light hearted nature lightly. Children's author's like many of the comic book writers of today are at the Vanguard of what's happening in the world. I'm not much for comic books but occasionally I'll flip through them and see idea's that well beyond the creative match for most people. Little do people realize that some of these heroes are metaphors. Things put into story form that wouldn't penetrate their consciousness if it were told as a real life narrative. These two books are timeless for they teach one that no matter the circumstances in life, there is a way. Unless, it's your time and for that the decision relies on the man upstairs.

If you were to ask me what be greatest skill or prep to have for future events, I'd say it reveals itself in Swiss Family Robinson. Randomity!!

Jeremiah Jr wrote:

 It’s like C. S. Lewis once said; “People don’t think about the next world until their hopes in this world have been pretty well flattened out”. Any honest assessment of the world and what is going on and where we are headed, will do just that, ‘flatten one out’

Smart man. That's the nature of people. Fortunate, not to be in that category. And it's also why I suspect the Churches are gonna get a big return on investment as our financial realities and other world changes start to be realized. It also reminds the person who preaches they have won eternal life but at the 12th hour when it's time to leave, they cry out to God for help because as much as they tried to convince others their destiny, there is a place in their hearts doesn't believe it. That phenomena is sometimes called the "Dual Consciousness" You believe one thing consciously, but underneath, deep down in the psyche, you haven't reached the same conclusion.

Jeremiah Jr wrote:

Do you really think this will end well given human history???

I guess this all gets back to the larger question and comes full circle to where is this all headed and how will it end???

Ok Jeremiah, as chatty as I am, I do keep alot close to the vest. Not because, I'm secret type person, some information just doesn't go down well in different crowds. But let me a share a small piece of my larger cosmology. I believe this world was never meant to be a utopia. Plato's perfect city state I believe was a lesson of what could ideally take place but I don't think Plato was stupid enough to believe that would manifest. As a matter of fact, I don't even think it is a piece on government. I think it was meant to be a piece on spiritual introspection. What qualities a person must have in order to contribute to a clean, well run, well organized, peaceful society and how people would be in tune with what the eastern traditions call dharma. Do you know what that is?

The dictionary says the principle of cosmic order. I'll give you my definition. It's when a person is so attuned to the higher intelligence, the cosmic order, (you choose your own phrase), that all their actions of free will are aligned with a higher will. And that morality no longer comes from a book or others interpretation where it can be hijacked and controlled, (like AM's clip of Becket) but it comes from your own inner connection.

You do right not because it says so in the Ten Commandments, or the golden rule, or the Laws of Manu, the bible, the torah or anywhere else, it is just a part of you. You know why God gave Moses the Ten Commandments? Because the people weren't that smart to get it! I ain't even sure it was God that gave Moses the ten commandments. But you wouldn't need a directions, if you GOT IT in the first place. Do you realize only three of the commandments are stated in the affirmative? The other three are DON'T DO THIS, AND DON'T DO THAT. Really, if you love God, you realize all is part of his creation and you ain't gonna take another life, steal anothers money.

Would you want to be hanging around somebody that says "Hey Jeremiah, I'm fuzzy on what's right and wrong, can ya give ma little guide book?"

Back to what a shit hole this country is going to be. Like I said, based on my study of history, my observation and general spiritual perspective, earth is the ash can of the universe. Yeah, there are some nice gardens, seen some nice beaches, eaten a whole lot of good food, and the women, well he sure as heck dropped a lot of nice eye candy on this earth, but in general earth harbors continuous wars, the occaisional tyrant that wipes out a million or so people at a time, pestilence, disease, starvation, the occaisional drowning, tsunami, killer sharks, mosquito's that eat you alive so you can't stay on the beach past sundown (what God would do that???) Stray dogs and cats that won't live past the winter, and already their bones are sticking their ragged fur. They destroy our forests, dig holes in the ground and pour toxic chemicals in the rivers so we stackers are prepared for the coming financial calamity, and to make matters worse, the last few years, birds just dropping out of the sky for no apparent reason. Well, it did get worse, Airplanes dropping out of the sky. And did you know as I type this that we have bacteria in our bodies that are eating us alive. Oh yeah, it's only down hill from here. I didn't create this universe, but that was his plan. I can take my MSM to slow it down but I'm still being devoured by invisible bacteria.

The thing about recognizing an imperfect world is it takes a huge burden off me of having how to fix things on a global scale and leaves me energy to manage the problems in my micro universe which part of my spiritual philosopy is that is the reason I'm here. about how bad things have come. Things like Obamacare come into my little universe Like Jim and Ag1969 testified to. Obamacare is a royal pain in the ass. He sure is one dumbMF! But I take it on the chin because I have no choice. I had to practice some randomty and make changes so he wouldn't completely rape me. And sure as hell, if I were in a position to change it, I would. 

My list of things that could happen to this world in the next 5 to 10 years are pretty long. And I'm not including the possibility of Niribu or another planetary object coming out of dimensional space and colloiding with the earth. I'm letting the inter-dimensional physics guys wrestle with that problem. Nukes in Germany is pretty bad, and now China bringing heavy artillery into the middle east. These are real concerns. I don't need to be a prophet to see that Syria is a powder keg that could explode and effect the entire world. Things never go according to plan. 

No my stack of silver might do little more than smooth some of the bumps in the world. I'm not one that thinks that gold and silver is my salvation but bought at the right price and sold at a better price, it could help;)

Jeremiah Jr wrote:

No, no, no, respectfully, Cayce has nothing to offer, nothing, the prophets in the Bible said this below would happen to the Worlds last, Great Economic, Political and Military Superpower….. Read Daniel 7

Did he get nothing right in your mind? I mean how about his natural healing remedies? Not even a castor oil pack for a little relieve? Nothing is alot especially when his predictions can easily found and you can compare what he predicted and what happened. How do you summarily dismiss a guy who has a better track record than the majority of gold analysts?

Is not the dynamic in Syria almost identical to what he said could happen? Of course, this thing in Syria could go many ways, there is alot of behind the scene stuff and the Popes visit to the United Nations is part of that. Probably need to say more on the Papal visit another time.

Jeremiah Jr wrote:

 Truth be told this is the future of America………

You mean like the great Native American Diaspora, The displacement of millions of Mexican's when we took their country, said you could stay on the land and then sent them back. Like the Japanese Interment Camps. 

First they have to create an enemy. I always watch James Bond to see who our enemy is. Maybe it will go back to the Russians. But who has been the enemy in most recent time war flicks? The Syria thing is right on time!

Christians won't be made the enemy. They will be the pawns. For they will hijack the teachings of Christ like they have for millennia and use it. Just like the clip Becket. Did you view it Jeremiah? You see how the Priest had that army in the palm of his hands. Religion can control the population including armies.

Jeremiah Jr wrote:

GL, if you or anyone wants to know if what the Bible and Christ said is true, just do what he asks and one will find……..

Oh but I do Jeremiah. It's just your version along with the other members of the forum who are Christian have a vastly different take on what he was asking you to do. This goes back to the conversation of consciousness which I don't think went over very well.

Did you know that if we divide all the mainstream religions into schools of consciousness there would be two, the bilocationists and the cosmic consciousness school. So many Christians do not know that Christ was an advocate of the bilocation theory. That's right you won't find that word in your scriptures. Remember, he appeared to Thomas in his other body. According to the Gospels, he certainly seemed to have had little use for the cosmic consciousness theory when he spoke to the people. On the other hand, Buddha, who had a Hindu background, was a firm believer in the cosmic consciousness. Here lies the major difference between the two schools.

With the Catholic churh there were many mystics. For example, Saint John of the Cross, a mystic who wrote a lot about the illumnination of the mind and spirit; Saint Teresa of Avila; and dozens of other Catholic saints were mystics. These were advocates of the Cosmic Consciousness. On the other hand, Padre Pio, Saint Anthony of Padua, and others were advocates of bilocation. But you'll never hear the current Catholic hierarchy giving credit to bilocation in his book. And Christians just say, well it was a miracle produced by the Son of God because he had it like that. That's what you call interpretation.

Jesus was teaching his followers how to expand their consciousness beyond the physical awareness. I forgot the quote that states, he knew most couldn't follow him, or wouldn't even get it, (if pushed I'd locate it) and he was fine with it. But he did say "Foxes have holes and birds have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to rest." This is not just a reference to his work schedule. 

 Today, people reading these lines relating to bilocation do not even see it. For one, they left the directions out of the book and anything resembling refining and expanding the consciousness as Jesus most definitely taught is not even discussed.

Ok, Jeremiah, I'm giving more crumbs. Certain these idea's have never been put forth by the Thread of Faith group because they are too mystical. But if one would only read the biographies of the great avatars in the Christian lineage, you'd would find more overt references but when is the last time anybody ever took the time to read any of those??

The Hindu's don't even bother with Jesus' bilocation theory, for one they might get lost. The bible calls these Souls of the Lost Sheep. 

My spiritual paradigm is the stuff you have to read between the lines.

Am I way out in the twilight zone yet? 

Look, I could spend day responding to all your comments and questions in your post. Each would be a two page letter. It's just not possible. So I grab the comments that pop out at me and do my best stream of consciousness. And it probably doesn't come out the way I'd like, or make all the points necessary.

Ok, let me grap one more.

"Surely someone as enlightened as yourself has come to a conclusions as to a solution as to how the bad guys are to be toppled, and what follows post EE?"

Enlightened as myself?? I'll leave that w/out comment other than it's suggestive. 

At the time of the revolutionary war, a time of muskets, and canons, it was easy. The enemy was thousands of miles across the pond, and we had plenty of time and space to coalesce idea's, philosophies, man power and fire power....etc... So those who are tapping into that morphic field with organizing militia's now have to go against much more advanced methods of warfare. Cyberwar, financial warfare on the population, food war fare, medical war fare, social engineering coming at you 24/7 through the air waves, alternative disinformation resources. Today we don't agree on the problems. It was clear in 1776 that repressive taxes were a burden, and a few other key issues that were breaking the backs of the ordinary citizen. We knew the enemy, we knew how they dressed, and who represented the king. 

The drug cartel in Mexico can take 1/3 of Mexico out of the hands of the Mexican government because they have the weaponry and the assistance of the banksters.

So the idea of a revolution using local militia is almost laughable. So what? You make it to the state capital and take control? Then what are they gonna do when Air Combat Command sends out a fleet of fighter jets? 

Taking an organized fight to the topple them is not an option or the question. 

The enemy to the banksters is awareness. That hasn't happened yet. American's still lining up for the free toasters. Many gold bulls fighting to stay in the game. Banksters are looking pretty smart. 

You don't go up against certain morphic fields unless you have greater man power. So that is not the tactic. The rest will have to be for another time.

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