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Sun, May 24, 2015 - 11:49pm (Reply to #4542)
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@ Rex ...

Some members are unable to view YouTube videos and need the Title printed so that they can Search the Tube ... and access the video. Your vids are titled:

1) 'Blackmill & Mt Eden - Now'

2) Yalix - Mourning Dove smiley

Sun, May 24, 2015 - 11:54pm (Reply to #4543)
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@ KC - Honey Bees

This has been ongoing for several years.

Time mag recently had an article on such as well.

https://time.com/3821467/bees-honeybees-environment/ 

Blue Orchard Bees might provide some relief when it comes to pollination, however the trade off is that there is no honeycrying

Cheers,

S. Rex

Sun, May 24, 2015 - 11:55pm (Reply to #4544)
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@ Brother Dale...

JustDale wrote:

Some members are unable to view YouTube videos and need the Title printed so that they can Search the Tube ... and access the video. Your vids are titled:

1) 'Blackmill & Mt Eden - Now'

2) Yalix - Mourning Dove smiley

Thanks for the helping hand smiley

Cheers, S. Rex

Sun, May 24, 2015 - 11:56pm
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Really?

Inkel, 

One day you'll own up to your lies. If you believe them to be honest assessments, you'll have to reconcile with your delusions. That's your bridge to cross.

Nothing I have said is lies, nothing.

While you and a bunch of folks would love to attribute the drama to me, you aren't willing to step up to self responsibility and your roll. Your ignore or never aware of good principles of engagement. Obviously, if everybody ignored me there would be no drama. Or at least a willingness to engage on the issues and only the issues. 

You are an expert at eliciting drama and deception, I believe it is your business and your paycheck. You told us yourself how you routinely work with 200 scientists, doing what, baking cookies? You are an expert at psycho-babble and you steer the public exactly where you want them to go, but you are not honorable, you have zero integrity.

There is no expression of self pity in my posts. Again lack of diligence and integrity attributing my idea's and thoughts.

"15 people are against me..."

The drama is not mine alone. The mass refusal to accept their role (only need to sift through dozens of posts some more repetitive than anything I've propagated) the record is public. There are other posts, closed forums where you attempted the same thing and other members and past members you made the same accusation including one you pretend to be allies with. There seems to be a wholesale refusal to acknowledge these, either because people never saw them, or their need stand behind you is the greater need to fulfill their own validation issues. 

You are right the drama is not yours alone. Good, kind, caring people are unwittingly pulled into your absolute nonsense. I have had you on ignore when you continue to mention me over and over again. Eventually, to your delight, I am sure, even I get dragged in, but unlike others I just don't care what you think of me, because I have witnessed firsthand your behavior, it lacks honesty, integrity, and loyalty to our great nation. Your business is being divisive and you do it well. Your business is being inflammatory and you do it well. Your business is inducing guilt and you do it well. Your business is in MANIPULATION and you do it well.

Your A fake, a liar and deceitful man. Doesn't matter that I'm the only person willing to say it. I have certainty others have noticed. That's not meant to be disparaging for it's own belligerent sake. It's the record. Those who have sought solidarity with your views simply out the need to make unfounded, unsubstantiated allegations share some of those character traits. Doesn't make a difference if they like me or abhor me, they chose the wrong path. This behavior is no different than the Cheney's and the Clintons they are so interested in exposing their lies. We get the system we deserve. Nothing more, and nothing less. 

"Your (sic) A fake, a liar and deceitful man". No, I have stood up when others would not, that is why you hate me so much, because I bring truth to the threads and I try to ferret out the true meaning behind what we are seeing. I attempt to draw clues together that is why you hate me so much. You hate that you realize you have NO CONTROL over what I post, I am immune to believing in your ramblings. I have nothing to do with Cheney or Clinton, but you already knew that. Again, paint, paint, paint your picture sad man I can hardly wait to see who you come up with next. Oh wait, best friends with Monsanto execs? Anyone that takes the time to read what I have written would never believe you for a second. But you are right I do hate that I am actually wasting my time even answering your bull.

I remember each and everyone and wouldn't hesitate to look my accusers in the eye, dialogue with them in public on the issues. Or at least one on one with them privately. They would have to men and women of conviction. I could be wrong, but I doubt they could. 

Your lack of diligence in correctly attributing my idea's and thoughts is matched by the your blantly false statement you have me ignore. Of course, you don't You are unable to stand that tall. It's blatantly not true. What else have you said that's untrue? Alot of people banking on you taking your lies to grave

Huh? "Alot of people banking on you taking your lies to grave", what does that even mean? How clever of you to accuse me of being delusional. I can't even follow your logic, nor do I want to try.

Yes you are on ignore, then you put my name in the title, and others are referencing me, so then I click to see what new diatribe you are spewing. If anyone really took the time to read over your writings this weekend they might actually be surprised at my restraint. But it wasn't restraint, it was not knowing and then going back and seeing your ridiculous attempt to discredit.

You just spend numerous paragraphs to address me and the situation. You are part of the drama. The thing about lying is you always have to watch your back. So I detect a bit of paranoid.

No I am projecting a way forward for folks and hope we can get past paying attention to your bully tactics which are always followed by the "poor me" tactics which are always followed by the psycho babble "can I guilt you guys" babble followed by the "I am going to talk for ages and just wear you down" babble. I get tired of wasting my time, that is why I have you on ignore, MOST of the time. Your whole persona here is one big "PAY ATTENTION TO ME AND NO ONE ELSE" as if you have all the answers and are somehow "enlightened". Enlightened people build, develop, and connect, they don't destroy; you are a destroyer.

I'll also note that your backing continues to diminish on your idea's. Not that I'm winning any friends but the more and more you refuse to engage at the level of the issues, the less people participate and the less support your preposterous notions receive The decay is slow but noticeable. I have nothing to hide or run from.

I stand by my analysis and happy to change my idea's or opinions without shame if better information, more complete analysis is presented. Nobody even makes an attempt. They skip over to the personal assault.

It would be a terrible mistake to equate my acknowledgement this behavior as a call for sympathy, pity or even being a victim. Homey, don't play that game. I don't need government welfare or personal welfare of any sort.

People can ride me, make accusations, do whatever they need to do to vilify me in whatever way they want. They are only showing how they are being eaten from the inside. I am not some landlubber that shakes and quivers, runs away. If people want to mistake that for some serious psychological damage that's fine with me. Despite some poor spelling and grammar at times that people enjoy taking shots at, my thoughts are lucid, well formed, predicated on good principles of reason or intuitive process and often based on good research. I can't say the same for you. That doesn't make me superior, holier than thou. Those are your words not me.

I know my defects and you sir come as far as humanly possible in summarizing them.

The rest was pure babble, and I just skimmed it. "Those are your words not me", I don't recognize any of that but I am sure with several hundred posts you might be able to lift 50% of those words at some point some where, one word at a time, and form your own new sentences with new meanings...but then you might even be showing us even more of your talent.

Happy Memorial Day!!!

Happy Memorial Day to you if you see it as happy. Personally, I see as solemn. Even more so when I look at the state our once great nation is in, and the fact they are paying people like you to deceive the public.

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Sun, May 24, 2015 - 11:58pm
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Inkel, Glad you took me off

Inkel, Glad you took me off ignore and engaging me in conversation. Turned a new leaf. See even you can change. I'll take that as an invitation to stay!!! I'm liking your rate of posting. Seems my Forex comments put some pep in your step. I didn't read much else other than your sentiment on Memorial day. I can't imagine you wrote anything new or decided to deny anything. But our new found relationship is promising.

I'm also liking this new meme, repeat everything other people say as many times as possible. Humans need repetition, repetition, repetition. 

Veterans like to be seen too and feel appreciated even if they fought for corrupt reasons. If it's ok, I'll honor them, buy them a beer. You should feel free to piss on the flag pole during the blowing of TAPS. I'd do it after the 21 Gun salute. Wouldn't want to make you martyr. 

Mon, May 25, 2015 - 12:28am
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Richard, Pay attention he is PAINTING AGAIN

Inkel, Glad you took me off ignore and engaging me in conversation. Turned a new leaf. See even you can change. I'll take that as an invitation to stay!!! I'm liking your rate of posting. Seems my Forex comments put some pep in your step. I didn't read much else other than your sentiment on Memorial day. I can't imagine you wrote anything new or decided to deny anything. But our new found relationship is promising.

Richard

I'm also liking this new meme, repeat everything other people say as many times as possible. Humans need repetition, repetition, repetition. 

Richard

Veterans like to be seen too and feel appreciated even if they fought for corrupt reasons. If it's ok, I'll honor them, buy them a beer. You should feel free to piss on the flag pole during the blowing of TAPS. I'd do it after the 21 Gun salute. Wouldn't want to make you martyr. 

Richard, Richard, Richard

My first thought "How can this man possibly make his parents proud?"

My second thought "Richard"

My third thought "This is an awesome teaching moment, you can see exactly the type of tripe the public will have to be able to see through in order to get to the truth". We have to be able to see through the intent to defame and ask "Why would he spend this much time and emotional effort trying to discredit Flyinkel?" Because he sees me as a threat to the status quo.

Finally, the fact that he even thinks about peeing on the flagpole should tell you all you need to know about this man. The thought would never even come into the mind of a true patriot.

flyinkel
Mon, May 25, 2015 - 12:52am (Reply to #4548)
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You're absolutely right, fly!

Finally, the fact that he even thinks about peeing on the flagpole should tell you all you need to know about this man. The thought would never even come into the mind of a true patriot.

ancaro imparo.
Mon, May 25, 2015 - 12:52am (Reply to #4549)
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Dear Rex ...

... I would also like to acknowledge the sentiment you expressed re: Memorial Day. I will re-post this as a reminder to us all. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCVyeND0b90

"The Meaning of Memorial Day" A Vietnam Veteran's Tribute

I sent this to all my family members simply because of this: Many will be weeping tomorrow (though I'm sure their heart aches every day). It would be good if we all took at least a moment to "weep with those who weep"... and to Honor those who have borne the full brunt of what their Service required. 

Having never served in the military (although I am an Army brat), this is a Day and a Subject when I hear a voice echoing this ... "Take off your sandals for the ground on which you are standing is Holy Ground."

This is a Day when I stand with my right hand over my heart ... and my left hand over my mouth. I say it, also, bare-footed .. with a tear in my eye.

Dale

Mon, May 25, 2015 - 1:03am (Reply to #4550)
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No bees

I haven't seen a honey bee in my yard in the last three years. There are several beekeepers in the area, so I can still get local honey (for now). Last year at the farmers' market one of the beekeepers told me he'd lost half of his hive to colony collapse in the previous two years. I hope he has enough bees to be back at the market this year. Big Ag, not global warming, is gonna destroy us.

ancaro imparo.
Mon, May 25, 2015 - 1:17am (Reply to #4551)
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Penisberry? Really? Good Grief, GL.

 I'm sure it was me that initiated this dialogue with Penisberry.

Not exactly ad hominem, but pretty close. 

"Juvenile" works.

ancaro imparo.
Mon, May 25, 2015 - 1:52am
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The Puzzling Media bits and pieces and how do they fit?

Threads to think about, what is making sense, what are we seeing right before our eyes?

https://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-05/21/c_134258039.htm

"Any attempt from one country to harm others may finally hurt itself too".(as opposed to being able to harm other countries without repercussions? Is this a direct comment about the U.S.?) It seems like there is more to this article than meets the eye. 

China is putting out a lot of global info lately, yesterday it was telling their businesses that they should do more business with Peru. Several days ago it was commenting their Yuan would remain stable. They would only make this comment to warn their people (means other currencies will NOT be stable). Today it is the Chinese defense minister meeting with the Italian Air Force Chief. Remember just a few days ago the Pope lauded Palestian leaders as being peace makers publicly and offered them statehood. https://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/13/world/vatican-palestinian-statehood/index.html Israel has been quiet lately, comparatively speaking. Isreal's funding is in large part USD, are they sensing a dollar reset and how that leaves them hanging in the wind for funding? 

Syria is 1/2 occupied by ISIS, and Yemen is being bombed. But if you look at the group with the most solid ties I would put Iran, Yemen, Syria, State of Palestein, Russia, and China all solidly together, but with China and Russia making all sorts of business overtures to vast swaths of the globe. Will China/Russia stand by as Syria and Yemen fall? Yemen sits at the Gulf of Aden where every day 3 million barrels of oil pass through these waters. China imports more oil than the U.S. right now, she would want these shipping lanes secure. (old article here) https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/10/china-passes-us-oil-imports_n_4076857.html

The article posted above is "Common destiny" to guide regional, global development: Russian experts". Yet the very first quote is the one stated above which is a type of threat. Specifics of the article address the Russian/Chinese vision. In 2013 Chinese President Xi Jinping pointed out that the world is developing into "a community of common destiny" with deepening interdependence and interaction. This is a repeat theme, and one we should try to understand what that might mean to the U.S.

You have to be good at reading between the lines with the Chinese and Russians too. Many more warnings than normal are coming out, but also they seem to be telling. 

Right now it's like a lot of threads floating all around that somehow make sense, we just don't know what yet. I don't have all the answers, I just have a sense for what feels "everyday" and what feels "out of the norm", and looking at what is being said/done and trying to determine why. Throwing these threads out there for thoughts.

The sooner a reset happens the less relevant the USD is and the more crippled the US becomes to wage war. Is this playing a part in the global decision-making? And is there a perceived rush to make this happen before Yemen and Syria topple?

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Mon, May 25, 2015 - 2:07am
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GL

For illustrative purposes only, and with a small hope that it might stir you to introspection...

For, as you noted, "Humans need repetition, repetition, repetition."

You do try to paint vivid and unfair pictures of people in order to 'win' (what the prize is eludes me). The point was specifically relevant to an exchange we had some time ago, so I'll just use quotes from each of us in the hopes of avoiding vitriol. We were discussing Ferguson and I said:

"As far as the media, if they wanted to be treated as some sort of protected 'guardians of good governance', they should've been on the job for the last six years. Fuck the media and any protections they've historically been given."

Your initial reaction was:

"Where we agree... f*^k the media..." followed by some disagreement that was not particularly disagreeable. Some more disagreement arose, unrelated to the media point, but simply other things I said that made you angry, and several pages later my generalized expression of disdain for the media was dredged and repackaged by you and became:

"Walk into your local news station and pull Miss. Pretty Nightly newscaster aside. Ya think she really knows who is pulling her strings? She is just a brain washed little innocent girl who went to journalism school, made her momma and poppa proud because she gotz herself a job on the nightly news reporting the local beat. But because of association, she deserves to have a gun pointed at her."

Is this not intended to push people's buttons and evoke quite a different visual than anything I said? An attempt to mischaracterize and smear?

You were, I think, sarcastic when you said

"Now, I can't help myself here, involuntary reaction.."

But I'm afraid that's the most self-awareness you've shown, and it was sarcasm.

I'm not a believer in much psychobabble, but the changes that you've undergone here in your persona ... when I've seen that from people I really know, it was a result of them suffering a lot of pain. But they came back, GL. You can too.

I will pray for you. Don't worry, I don't mean in the conversion therapy sense. Just that you'll find some peace. It's good stuff, manwink.

Mon, May 25, 2015 - 2:38am (Reply to #4554)
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Loved this bit Fly

"Any attempt from one country to harm others may finally hurt itself too".(as opposed to being able to harm other countries without repercussions? Is this a direct comment about the U.S.?) It seems like there is more to this article than meets the eye. 

China is putting out a lot of global info lately, yesterday it was telling their businesses that they should do more business with Peru. Several days ago it was commenting their Yuan would remain stable. They would only make this comment to warn their people (means other currencies will NOT be stable)."

How about this: China & Russia (& anyone else who wants to get in on this act) are taking advantage of the USA's inability to express any of the above sentiments or intentions. They don't talk first strike because it's not the only military advantage they think they have. They do talk of doing business and about currency stability. USA seems to have a business model that is predicated on getting the military in First, then taking whats left at distress sale prices. As for the currency, well it's halfway around the bend innit?

I am sure this hurts honest Americans. I know it would hurt me in the same place.

Mon, May 25, 2015 - 2:55am (Reply to #4555)
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Finally, one last thought

GL put this up and immediately had 7 hat-tips. Now, how does that happen? You all are speed readers? All his buddies are on board and within a minute or so they are having a hat-tip fiesta?

Or GL with his moderator privileges can make things happen?

Or GL and his govvie buddies do just this, attempt to lead the minds of others through groupthink? Geez, all those hat tips, he must be right! So, what percentage of his hat tips are real? 

It's behavior that is underhanded, and unfortunately, it's throughout our government right now.

flyinkel
Mon, May 25, 2015 - 3:12am (Reply to #4556)
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Moderator?

I can't find any faq on forum moderation, so I have to guess that maybe the thread owner is mod if any.

That's still Nana in my book.

Mods - clarification please?

Mon, May 25, 2015 - 3:33am (Reply to #4557)
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To me it would be interesting to know all of the following

1) Who is moderator of DOTS? Does GL have the right to "edit" comments?

2) Because GL posts on the front page at times, is he considered a moderator?

3) Can GL, as moderator, (if he is one) change his own hat-tips?

4) Does GL have various other aliases on TFMR?

5) Is there a governmental team, that you are aware of, that actively posts on TFMR?

6) Can GL, as moderator (if he is one), look at the PM message traffic that is not directed to him?

flyinkel
Mon, May 25, 2015 - 4:06am
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G.L.s hat tips

Are a conspiracy. Now I get it - it's an illusion. G.L. is a Government agent. Oh gosh. How could I be so stupid. Please can I be part of the collective. I promise to obey.

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb
Mon, May 25, 2015 - 4:14am (Reply to #4559)
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@ flyinkel

Just cut the string and let it go. wink

GL is totally full of sh*t, and obviously thriving on the notoriety, attention, and ability to waste the time of others devil

Cheers,

S. Rex

Mon, May 25, 2015 - 4:17am
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@ atarangi

So all of this crap created by GL is all one big joke to you, right Kiwi?

Go ahead, laugh it up.

Cheers,

S. Rex

Mon, May 25, 2015 - 4:32am (Reply to #4561)
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@ Brother Dale Thank You

JustDale wrote:

... I would also like to acknowledge the sentiment you expressed re: Memorial Day. I will re-post this as a reminder to us all. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCVyeND0b90

"The Meaning of Memorial Day" A Vietnam Veteran's Tribute

I sent this to all my family members simply because of this: Many will be weeping tomorrow (though I'm sure their heart aches every day). It would be good if we all took at least a moment to "weep with those who weep"... and to Honor those who have borne the full brunt of what their Service required. 

Having never served in the military (although I am an Army brat), this is a Day and a Subject when I hear a voice echoing this ... "Take off your sandals for the ground on which you are standing is Holy Ground."

This is a Day when I stand with my right hand over my heart ... and my left hand over my mouth. I say it, also, bare-footed .. with a tear in my eye.

Dale

Memorial Day always takes a toll when the faces of those resting under headstones never leave one's memory.

Semper Fi

Cheers, S. Rex

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