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Sun, May 3, 2015 - 4:41am
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better musician?

Caught you out Monserrat. Egotistical concept. Just kidding - I am in awe of your brilliance. Image result for awe mandala

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb
Sun, May 3, 2015 - 4:43am (Reply to #4160)
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good quotes and analysis

The founding fathers from what i can tell, gave the US a republic. A democracy was then supplanted under the guise of a democratic republic and they are now under a democratic dictatorship. The best guy on this sort of DOTS is Dean Clifford. I think you would love him if you have not already heard his work. Once you have a nation that understands what inalienable rights are you have a nation of true freedom, Lose that knowledge and you are sheep for the manipulation.

Sun, May 3, 2015 - 5:08am
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The Re-Set

I offer without apologies this very interesting interview on "The Re-Set". Why aren't more people talking about this?

Let me know what you think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=3331&v=Jc0Z_eAVjzc

Sun, May 3, 2015 - 5:27am (Reply to #4161)
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Monserrat wrote: I don't find

Monserrat wrote:
 I don't find the correllation that GMO's has to my refusal to conclude on certain matters of my heart and mind. .

We went slightly astray from my initial assertion which is fine as a good conversation has a "flow" My initial assertion was that our vastly different spiritual experiences/paradigms effects our ability to see the world, connect the DOTS from a objective/neutral space. On all subjects.

You said it best when you said "How scientism has ripped the sacred to shreds." We are not seeking consensus for it's own sake as that rapidly becomes dogma. But with many of the issues we attempt to tackle here, there is not alot of leeway in tracking down the truth. Opinion is fine for drinks on Friday night at the local tavern but when your life savings is the item in question, you'd better make sure your opinion is consistent with reality.

So GMO's for example. Again, a superficial look might suggest, simply a matter of science but is not the body, the temple of the soul? And therefore what we put in our mouths a deeply spiritual subject? How can we access the sacred when our minds are doped and our bodies lifeless? I'll make a statement without qualifying it but I suspect you'll understand. I can know something is detrimental to my lifeforce, chi, prana, without the science. I can know this because human's have spiritual faculties that science is still trying to grasp and maybe various religious or world views deny. If you have not connected to these abilities within you, than what is left is looking for ways to discuss something limited to a person's experience in life. In many cases of disagreement, opinions put out lack any kind of personal experiences in a particular area. In and of itself, it's fine. But to come to strong conclusions on something, even an insistence, that something cannot be is directly proportional to ones state of consciousness. Ability to accept information on all levels. 

Therefore, I conclude that ones belief on a subject such as GMO's, just using that as the example for all the subjects are no different, matters of heart and mind and how one is able to combines these modes of information gathering are directly reflected in ones view of any subject. Is there any subject which is not spiritual? How do we separate "source" from his "creation"?

Not sure I'm being any clearer and the "conflict" is resolved? 

No matter, of course, I'm familiar with "flow" Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi's work. A wonderful subject. You can't be a musician without understanding that subject. I struggle with this everyday in my musical journey. Struggle might not be the correct word but some days it's appropos. 

I think the fictional character of Sherlock Holmes embodies the spirit of the true DOT connector. 

"Still, it is an error to argue in front of your data. You can find yourself insensibly twisting them round to suit your theories."

Accessing and interpreting Data is much more than a mental exercise. But I won't say much more on the subject. A book selection that encompasses the topic of this conversation. It might be the best book I have in how to access and interpret data from an unlikely source. And boy does he understand flow. A chapter dedicated to it.

Sun, May 3, 2015 - 5:44am (Reply to #4164)
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Karen

just started watching this vid the start is something i have had some first hand knowledge of The Courts She is spot on . I asked the Judge a lot of questions that should be easy to answer . Could not answer one.

Sun, May 3, 2015 - 5:50am (Reply to #4164)
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still listening to it

Dean Clifford has a very articulate way of teaching this stuff and really knows his stuff.

Sun, May 3, 2015 - 6:30am (Reply to #4164)
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Hudes isn't loading

Also can't get to RollingStone this weekend sad

OK Hudes is loading.

Sun, May 3, 2015 - 11:49am
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@Monserrat & GL

Thanks very much for the brain exercise; blessed be true teachers.enlightened

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Sun, May 3, 2015 - 12:32pm (Reply to #4169)
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Plant intelligence

Thanks for the book recommendation GL. This looks like the follow on to "The 

Secret Life of Plants" which detailed the science behind communicating with plants (even 50 years ago). I will definitely read it. I find it theoretically easier to connect the dots with plants as they do not have an ego in the sense that humans do.

Just another reason why this message board is so valuable and growing better every week.

Everything is energy and all energy is conscious

Sun, May 3, 2015 - 10:33pm (Reply to #4164)
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My thoughts

1) IMF veto power is held by the US, want to hear how her group gets around this large barrier, especially when she admits world bank was already operating corruptly too.

2) She laughs off being targeted. If she was really targeted she would see this as a serious threat, not a laughing matter. She may think she has been targeted, such as following, or headlights on high following much too closely, to signal "You are being watched", but she would feel in constant danger if she was truly targeted.

3) Years and years of "Foreign Aid" to all countries but about 6 means intelligence strings are not just attached but thick roots have grown with all sorts of offshoots. Foreign nationals brought in to work for very low wages to any country may also have a secondary income source that reports to this intelligence to enable complete infiltration. I think she may be underestimating the ability to pull on these strings when needed to change the outcome in favor of the current gross corruption structure. Intel folks don't even realize they are acting at the behest of the global elite.

4) Her stance of military and loyalty seems basic. While nuclear threat may have been avoided, there is also corruption at the highest and lowest levels (infiltrators). Witness what happened to all the junior personnel that were involved in that nuke operation, most died in "car accidents" right after the incident. That means inside info given to the corruption team to take them out. If you are in the military and you want to spot the infiltrators notice 1) they never have normal work hours, they disappear, 2) they get promoted even though they suck because they are assured promotion and 3) they know specific information about your business that they normally shouldn't have access too. Now here is the problem, those infiltrators work for your government too. So it's all much more messy than we want to believe.

5) I don't see her as intentionally lying, but I do see her stance as basic. I am not sure she has the depth she needs of what she is fighting to make it happen. But maybe this is all she is willing to bring to the public and there is much more behind the scenes. Her "wholesome" personna, while attractive, seems a questionable match for the evil that is already so obscenely apparent. They won't play by any rules.

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Mon, May 4, 2015 - 1:11am
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Just for the mix.

https://ezs35e997c1cf37b4bbaadb19c9f842fdb19.s3.amazonaws.com/SSX%2017-.mp3

I personaly think this discusion is better than what GL writes.

Not to call you out GL, I'm just not where you are trying to take things. You bounce around a LOT and so does your sidekick.

I will call you out on this. You seem to hate private property rights. Am a wrong? Do you believe in private property?

@Abguy, thanks for the Hudes update. The gal has bronze overies in my Opine and it gives me hope that people IN DC are their with a good heart.

At some point this is going to just explode. State capture isn't what most people will agree with. I agree with all the efforts to expand humanity and the consious therin.

Karen is stating in way never before to an audience that has enough understanding to appreciate it enoph to 'get it"

Let's watch.

"Propaganda does not deceive people; it merely helps them to deceive themselves."
Mon, May 4, 2015 - 2:32am
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Karankawa

Good to see you going with the flow. - G.L. and his sidekick do bounce around a bit. Bouncing around is a form of harmonic resonance. We all need to bounce around in order to appreciate the gift of life. Just like the child who finds a blissful state in playful exuberance, adults need to play in order to feel the love.

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb
Mon, May 4, 2015 - 2:46am
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plant intelligence

Lets face it. Most plants are way more intelligent than the average human. We have the empirical advantage of evolutionary superiority but plants are way more in tune with their environment.

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb
Mon, May 4, 2015 - 2:58am
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actually

People are a creation of plants. Without plants people are nothing. Plants created people in their image in the hope that good would be done. (bad move)

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb
Mon, May 4, 2015 - 3:34am
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people turn to plants

When things start looking dodgy - dope, alcohol, drugs, and stuff. Plants are perfectly happy without any of that stuff (poor bastards).

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb
Mon, May 4, 2015 - 8:01am
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@GL @Atarangi

I really appreciate your reply GL. Your clarifying comments are greatly appreciated! It's 4 am here in Phoenix--thunder outside. Tonight was a journey to my old 4th Way school to find a measure of an answer. Sometimes things become so natural that you rarely think about it anymore. My body speaks--i listen. I tend to tune out on food discussions except for FJ and Ag1969. Ag1969 performed a miracle. I am as concerned with the food of impressions as I am the food for the body-- To Atarangi who already knows this quote but well it's always good for once a week! "Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." "It is not a daily increase, but a daily decrease. Hack away at the inessentials" Bruce Lee

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Yes, it's about the wonderous

Yes, it's about the wonderous world of plants. And it goes well beyond where the "Secret Life of Plants" took us. But revelant to connecting "DOTs" It has alot to offer. If it were about cooking the best donuts you could, it still could be relevant if the principles involved can you help you navigate the issues we are interested in discussing on TFMetals.

Connecting the DOTs is akin to a time honored technique called Connecting the Diamonds. I forget the author but about connecting seemingly unconnected events in your life and seeing the narrative they imply.

 Stephen Buhner wrote a chapter and entitled connecting the Golden Threads. It's about deep perceptions. Interpreting reality at a much higher level than simply seeing a narrative and repeating it. Seeing how seemingly unrelated things connect. Why preach the tenets of quantum physics of all patterns are connected and not live it? When a person is using deep perceptions, examples go from Mark Twain, Einstein, to Stevie Ray Vaughn, you are not intepreting data at first. The data begins to interpret itself. 

So I have a sense that there might be some disinterest in this touchy, feely, stuff. Of course, there is no dirth of very interesting things going on now. Anybody noticing some historical trends? And yes, why aren't we talking about it? That in itself is information. NOTE IT! Could be this Green Lantern guy cramps our space? NOTE IT.

Note the silence because it has as much information, if not more than the noise? anybody notice a cycle of participation? You're it. Any connection to price even if you are the type not to look at price? Maybe it's not necessary.

So GOLD. Anybody into that subject? How would you apply that touchy feeling stuff to the price of gold. First assume all patterns are connected. 

We are at an interesting juncture in the gold price, AGAIN. Boring right this price stuff? Again, we are decided if we have bottom support, we are building a base, the price is going to break up, down, etc....

So I'm watching all the technical guys draw the lines, identifying their patterns, and speculating on what the pattern means. Somebody in AM's blog posted a good pattern indicating a turn around soon, some interesting Gann patterns post. I read a few more around the blogisphere giving support numbers at a much lower number than would make bulls happy. Hell I ain't posting the bearish calls. Tomato's this time of year aren't ripe.. 

You just take note. Not only of who is saying what, how they are saying it but your perceptions of their information. Conclude nothing unless you want to put money down based on your experience and let it rip. Make a choice. I ain't feeling it either way. No strong perceptions other than what people are giving me.

Historical analogues? Newsflow? Is there anything here that gives me a feeling a cue, that something is on the verge of happening? Notice what you notice and interpret later.

Alot of bullish type news in the gold news flow. Might be a little concerning for me for an immediate turnaround. Event fractals, racial and civil unrest puts us into the late 60's. 67's, 68 area. Which brings up the 1968 economic crisis? Interesting read and some interesting markers for gold, Bretton Woods, alot of gold talk at that time but gold is doing nothing in terms of price other preparing for a future bull market.

So now I have to go back to the late 40's, and then going back and looking at 1918 Chicago Racial riots, 1919 and 20. So looks like we have a 20 year pattern. Veriviable. Now I have to go look at bond prices during these periods, inflation/deflation, and look for periods of transitions which has been pointed out is the time when gold moves it's ass. NOt necessarily in inflation. Can I find other syncronistic cycles related to finances? Bet your booty.

So what other meme is rising? Tax on money. Verifiable, real time events, that we spend the last three years being concerned about. The meme of out right stealing your savings right out of your pocket is here and NOW. So why isn't anybody talking about this? We don't know about the stock market tomorrow but we sure as hell can know this today. 

https://armstrongeconomics.com/archives/30158

https://armstrongeconomics.com/archives/date/2015/05

So it's off to the IMF website. What policies have they put into place, when did they put them into place, why Australia first? Is this like the Homeland security meme? It gets passed around by force. Play our game or suffer the consequences? 

We have global currency reset, stock market disaster on the main blog, Willie bank closures, trade settlements out of the US dollar put the $ in the grave. I'm not talking about it because I'm too busy noticing once again, ad infinitum the same memes are arising that forced people to go out and sell the farm just when the gold market hit the shitter. I'm just noticing what I notice. Are these markers? Buying opportunities? Speculation and what is there support for these things and how good is there track record? Before I come out and point out that some of the whistle blowers are good are blowing whistles but their track records don't stand up. When is the last time the news flow in the alternate media sent off this many alarms? When did the market too? Did any of the events come to fruition? Not saying any of these aren't on my clip board to happen but when so much, at the same time of such dire consequences are being broadcasted, how do I choose to interpret it? 

Do I dismiss it? No. Do I act on it? Hell no. Do these narratives give me deeper perceptions? Well something is and it feels like there are indeed golden threats, and something is amiss. Information. Now I have to decide if my feelings are my emotions, governments doing what we most feared, or I'm tuning in deeper?

Then I look at the baseball standings, the Meriweather fight. It's not like baseball and boxing have nothing to do with the price of gold? At least directly. But I'll ascert to you that there is indeed DOTS.

Buhner gets it at a deep levels. His subject matter happens to be healing and plants. I'd have no problem hiring a guy like that to write main features on gold and geopolitics. Not because he might have any interest in those subjects simply because he thinks, rather experiences events at a much deeper level than the masses.

Mon, May 4, 2015 - 10:34am
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Who Poisoned Amy?

"Who Poisoned Amy" (teaser)
Sadhguru talks about how to eat
Sadhguru talks about the importance of water
Mon, May 4, 2015 - 11:25am (Reply to #4178)
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Synchronicities all over the place

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Buhner gets it at a deep levels. His subject matter happens to be healing and plants. I'd have no problem hiring a guy like that to write main features on gold and geopolitics. Not because he might have any interest in those subjects simply because he thinks, rather experiences events at a much deeper level than the masses.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

This is also known as raising your consciousness to a higher level. Every living being could be, should be, doing this all of the time. Every time we search for knowledge we are doing it. If we can connect the dots at the same time then we are doing it at the quantum level. There are an infinite number of levels of consciousness and everyone is at there own unique level. There is no judgement if someone is not on your level.

Back to my title: Another amazing "coincidence" ocuured the other day when we were discussing Yogananda. Two good friends who have excellent powers of intuition told my wife that they were contacted by Yogananda to go to a location on the Ohio river and place certain crystals at a portal that was opening there. Hmmmm!

Mon, May 4, 2015 - 11:32am (Reply to #4178)
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