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Sat, May 2, 2015 - 2:09pm
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A Prophetic Interview by

A Prophetic Interview by Billiomaire Sir James Goldsmith--1994 GATT “The economy is there to serve the fundamental needs of society, which are prosperity, stability and contentment… If you have a situation whereby the economy grows but you create poverty and unemployment and you destabilise society, you’re in trouble.” The above quote comes from the most unlikely of sources: the late Sir James Goldsmith, one of the wealthiest and most influential business magnates of the late 20th century." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwmOkaKh3-s&feature=youtube_gdata_player On the impact of GATT: “What will happen is that more American products will be sold abroad which have been manufactured in low-cost areas. Therefore they will carry a U.S. name, they will have a U.S. manufacturing company, the corporations that make them will make tremendous profits but workforces will be eliminated.” On the jobless recovery: “In France the economy has grown by 80 percent. The number of unemployed has gone from 420,000 to 5.1 million… What is the good of having an economy that grows by 80 percent if your unemployed – the people excluded from active economic life – goes from 420,000 to 5.1 million.” On the liberalization of agriculture: “If GATT succeeds and were able to impose modern methods of agriculture worldwide so as to bring them to the levels, say, of Canada and Australia, 2 billion people out of 3.1 billion people would be uprooted from the land and chased into the towns… It would be a far greater disaster than any war.” On the financial industry and derivatives: “I think our financial system is extremely fragile. You can see it in the volatility of currencies, you can see all sorts of weaknesses. There’s an incredible amount of danger in things like derivatives. I think we are moving towards the outer limits of acceptable risk taking… I think the world GNP is somewhere in the figure of 30 trillion dollars and I believe the derivatives outstanding are at 90, which to a large degree are purely speculative.” (The derivatives market is now estimated to be worth anywhere in the region of 600 trillion to 1 quadrillion dollars). Full post: https://ragingbullshit.com/2012/12/19/a-prophetic-voice-from-the-past/

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An enlightened  post

An enlightened post Monserrat. Randomity and fluidity are indeed essential and you are absolutely correct each man/woman must walk their own path.

In a 3 D world known as earth, free spirit ness must be tempered with structure. Picasso and Van Gogh knew the fundamentals of drawing through practice, and discipline before they were able to freely express. Charlie Parker was taunted and the drummer threw a cymbal at him for his inability to keep up. He hadn't learned structure yet and was trying to be free before he was ready. He went into the woods which gave birth to the term wood shedding, practiced day and night. Discipline and structure gives us freedom. Ask any 15 year old whose privileges have been revoked because he wouldn't sit and discipline himself for the exam.

Indeed each person is a law unto themselves however, there are laws/principles are at work. Spend more than you earn-debt. Eat pork rinds and beer, let your emotions control you and soon life will teach you better. The consequences might differ for each person, the degree in which one can get away with these things might differ from person to person, but no matter your opinions on the subject, truth will have it's way.

Plato once said that opinions are the medium between knowledge and ignorance. You can skew reality anyway, you want and if you are a tall spiritual being you might be able to above and beyond these laws. If your opinion differs from the reality at hand, you are lying to yourself. We can know if GMO's and pesticides are good or bad for us. We most definitely can. We can entertain all the information about what the future holds for gold, finances in general, geopolitics and come to the wrong conclusions. Fine. A fluid person than recalibrate, reconsiders the information and acts accordingly. But when your opinions refuse to acknowledge that the thinking was in error likely the same thinking that will continue to be in error. The discipline and patience to consider the matter deeply, and the fluidness to change direction. 

Like any good dish, the recipe varies from person to person but to make bake a good cake, your creativity cannot come into play if you ignore the principles that rule temperature, yeast rising, alkalinity of water etc... Once you understand those principles then you are now free to experiment with unlimited creativity. Your opinions are limited to the structure of the laws of physics operating on this earth. Your opinion about the future has little validity if you ignore variables that have already been discovered to be true 100 times out of 100 times.

Sun, May 3, 2015 - 12:17am
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Tonight's research

This stuff is actually starting to make sense! enlightened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-M0xKQTHdw

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."
Sun, May 3, 2015 - 2:52am
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ss21 Charts and gorillas

Well said. Once fraud and deception enter a market uncorrected , it invariably leads to more of the same. What has now occurred is an all en clasp ulating fiction that will only be released through the solid metal injection of reality.

BTW i see Dean Clifford has been released from Brandon C F. Bout Bloody time.

Sun, May 3, 2015 - 2:57am
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Fantastic stuff

The talent contributing to Dots is awesome. Dots is an entity even greater than the sum of its parts. I just hope that all participants see the wisdom here. The Dots mantra is greater than any of us. We all have our own destiny but to see through our differences is the source of all power. To the optimist these are very exciting times. Without the power of positive thinking we are all doomed to die.

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb
Sun, May 3, 2015 - 3:34am
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Individual versus collective

 "Collectivism is the doctrine that the social collective -- called society, the people, the state, etc. -- has rights, needs, or moral authority above and apart from the individuals who comprise it. We hear this idea continually championed in such familiar platitudes as 'the needs of the people take precedence over the rights of the individual,' 'production for people, not profits,' and 'the common good.' 
"Collectivism often sounds humane because it stresses the importance of human needs. In reality, it is little more than a rationalization for sacrificing you and me to the desires of others." -- Jarret B. Wollstein in The Causes of AggressionHERE

"Don't forget that pure democracy is a form of collectivism -- it readily sacrifices individual rights to majority wishes. Since it involves no constitutional bill of rights, or at least, no working and effective one, the majority-of-the-moment can and does vote away the rights of the minority-of-the-moment, even of a single individual. This has been called 'mob rule,' the 'tyranny of the majority' and many other pejorative names. It is one of the greatest threats to liberty, the reason why America's founding fathers wrote so much so disparagingly of pure democracy." -- Bert Rand 

"A social system is a code of laws which men observe in order to live together. Such a code must have a basic principle, a starting point, or it cannot be devised. The starting point is the question: Is the power of society limited or unlimited? 
"Individualism answers: The power of society is limited by the inalienable, individual rights of man. Society may make only such laws as do not violate these rights. 
"Collectivism answers: The power of society is unlimited. Society may make any laws it wishes, and force them upon anyone in any manner it wishes." -- Ayn Rand, Textbook of AmericanismHERE

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb
Sun, May 3, 2015 - 4:23am
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@GL

I am tired tonight. You are easy to read but not easy to answer because you sometimes use conflicting examples--at least to my mind. I don't find the correllation that GMO's has to my refusal to conclude on certain matters of my heart and mind. I dont think you know how i process. Anyhoo To me--Freedom is a relative concept. The belief that discipline and structure can lead to freedom is something many dead soldiers might disagree with could they speak. Others are alive because of it--yes yes--I know all about discipline and structure but as a classical musician and a very young one I found I was structured and disciplined without trying. How did that happen? Years later I found out why. "In his seminal work, Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience, Csíkszentmihályi outlines his theory that people are happiest when they are in a state of flow— a state of concentration or complete absorption with the activity at hand and the situation. It is a state in which people are so involved in an activity that nothing else seems to matter.[9] The idea of flow is identical to the feeling of being in the zone or in the groove. The flow state is an optimal state of intrinsic motivation, where the person is fully immersed in what he is doing.". I know you know the flow! I found that Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi's concept of "the flow" helped me engage inner city students when tutoring math. (more at Wiki about the flow) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mihaly_Csikszentmihalyi To know the flow was one thing to help defeated math students who tested below the 50 percentile find it was another. The education model for lower income students is all about structure and discipline (that is changing in certain districts) so they will make good factory workers. Teaching a student to love process ( their own) allows concentration. As Emerson wrote: "Concentration is the secret of strength". Explanation or simplification of concepts lowered fear thresholds and test anxiety at first but increasing challenges at the right increments avoided boredom and apathy. Focusing first on process not right answers allowed a student to engage problem solving with curiosity. Discipline in class was never necessary not even with gang members because intrinsic respect was recognized and required not just by the students but by me--the teacher. Students came on time prepared to learn and work. What was important was allowing peer teaching on the board. Students were engaged by the process of learning. The flow. My students went consistently from F's to B's and A's. And are college bound. The efficacy of intrinsic motivation for students allows them to: (from wiki) "--attribute their educational results to factors under their own control, also known as autonomy or locus of control --believe they have the skills to be effective agents in reaching their desired goals, also known as self-efficacy beliefs --are interested in mastering a topic, not just in achieving good grades" I could Write more but really my personal achievements are private. Needless to say building a structural template engineered for student's freely chosen participation and success was the outcome. We built it. And they came. My one remaining negative feature from my years in the inner city is a residue of disgust for uppity and whiny white people--yup. And yes I am white and uppity myself but only toward entitled racist thinkers. Sorry. (no I'm not) High income students quite often have less structural constraints and process is more important than right answers btw. As for physics? And 3D? Well Fuller has affected my thinking Re: 4D. And laws? I have been influenced somewhat years ago by Gurdjieff and Ouspensky. And the Psychological Commentaries by Maurice Nicoll. Art? Have studied many artists and found some resonance with Kandinsky and Miro though the Hudson Valley artists are wonderful too. They all made me a better musician for the reasons you mentioned.

Sun, May 3, 2015 - 4:41am
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better musician?

Caught you out Monserrat. Egotistical concept. Just kidding - I am in awe of your brilliance. Image result for awe mandala

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Sun, May 3, 2015 - 4:43am (Reply to #4190)
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good quotes and analysis

The founding fathers from what i can tell, gave the US a republic. A democracy was then supplanted under the guise of a democratic republic and they are now under a democratic dictatorship. The best guy on this sort of DOTS is Dean Clifford. I think you would love him if you have not already heard his work. Once you have a nation that understands what inalienable rights are you have a nation of true freedom, Lose that knowledge and you are sheep for the manipulation.

Sun, May 3, 2015 - 5:08am
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The Re-Set

I offer without apologies this very interesting interview on "The Re-Set". Why aren't more people talking about this?

Let me know what you think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=3331&v=Jc0Z_eAVjzc

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Monserrat wrote: I don't find

Monserrat wrote:
 I don't find the correllation that GMO's has to my refusal to conclude on certain matters of my heart and mind. .

We went slightly astray from my initial assertion which is fine as a good conversation has a "flow" My initial assertion was that our vastly different spiritual experiences/paradigms effects our ability to see the world, connect the DOTS from a objective/neutral space. On all subjects.

You said it best when you said "How scientism has ripped the sacred to shreds." We are not seeking consensus for it's own sake as that rapidly becomes dogma. But with many of the issues we attempt to tackle here, there is not alot of leeway in tracking down the truth. Opinion is fine for drinks on Friday night at the local tavern but when your life savings is the item in question, you'd better make sure your opinion is consistent with reality.

So GMO's for example. Again, a superficial look might suggest, simply a matter of science but is not the body, the temple of the soul? And therefore what we put in our mouths a deeply spiritual subject? How can we access the sacred when our minds are doped and our bodies lifeless? I'll make a statement without qualifying it but I suspect you'll understand. I can know something is detrimental to my lifeforce, chi, prana, without the science. I can know this because human's have spiritual faculties that science is still trying to grasp and maybe various religious or world views deny. If you have not connected to these abilities within you, than what is left is looking for ways to discuss something limited to a person's experience in life. In many cases of disagreement, opinions put out lack any kind of personal experiences in a particular area. In and of itself, it's fine. But to come to strong conclusions on something, even an insistence, that something cannot be is directly proportional to ones state of consciousness. Ability to accept information on all levels. 

Therefore, I conclude that ones belief on a subject such as GMO's, just using that as the example for all the subjects are no different, matters of heart and mind and how one is able to combines these modes of information gathering are directly reflected in ones view of any subject. Is there any subject which is not spiritual? How do we separate "source" from his "creation"?

Not sure I'm being any clearer and the "conflict" is resolved? 

No matter, of course, I'm familiar with "flow" Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi's work. A wonderful subject. You can't be a musician without understanding that subject. I struggle with this everyday in my musical journey. Struggle might not be the correct word but some days it's appropos. 

I think the fictional character of Sherlock Holmes embodies the spirit of the true DOT connector. 

"Still, it is an error to argue in front of your data. You can find yourself insensibly twisting them round to suit your theories."

Accessing and interpreting Data is much more than a mental exercise. But I won't say much more on the subject. A book selection that encompasses the topic of this conversation. It might be the best book I have in how to access and interpret data from an unlikely source. And boy does he understand flow. A chapter dedicated to it.

Sun, May 3, 2015 - 5:44am (Reply to #4193)
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Karen

just started watching this vid the start is something i have had some first hand knowledge of The Courts She is spot on . I asked the Judge a lot of questions that should be easy to answer . Could not answer one.

Sun, May 3, 2015 - 5:50am (Reply to #4194)
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still listening to it

Dean Clifford has a very articulate way of teaching this stuff and really knows his stuff.

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Hudes isn't loading

Also can't get to RollingStone this weekend sad

OK Hudes is loading.

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@Monserrat & GL

Thanks very much for the brain exercise; blessed be true teachers.enlightened

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Sun, May 3, 2015 - 12:32pm (Reply to #4197)
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Plant intelligence

Thanks for the book recommendation GL. This looks like the follow on to "The 

Secret Life of Plants" which detailed the science behind communicating with plants (even 50 years ago). I will definitely read it. I find it theoretically easier to connect the dots with plants as they do not have an ego in the sense that humans do.

Just another reason why this message board is so valuable and growing better every week.

Everything is energy and all energy is conscious

Sun, May 3, 2015 - 10:33pm (Reply to #4198)
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My thoughts

1) IMF veto power is held by the US, want to hear how her group gets around this large barrier, especially when she admits world bank was already operating corruptly too.

2) She laughs off being targeted. If she was really targeted she would see this as a serious threat, not a laughing matter. She may think she has been targeted, such as following, or headlights on high following much too closely, to signal "You are being watched", but she would feel in constant danger if she was truly targeted.

3) Years and years of "Foreign Aid" to all countries but about 6 means intelligence strings are not just attached but thick roots have grown with all sorts of offshoots. Foreign nationals brought in to work for very low wages to any country may also have a secondary income source that reports to this intelligence to enable complete infiltration. I think she may be underestimating the ability to pull on these strings when needed to change the outcome in favor of the current gross corruption structure. Intel folks don't even realize they are acting at the behest of the global elite.

4) Her stance of military and loyalty seems basic. While nuclear threat may have been avoided, there is also corruption at the highest and lowest levels (infiltrators). Witness what happened to all the junior personnel that were involved in that nuke operation, most died in "car accidents" right after the incident. That means inside info given to the corruption team to take them out. If you are in the military and you want to spot the infiltrators notice 1) they never have normal work hours, they disappear, 2) they get promoted even though they suck because they are assured promotion and 3) they know specific information about your business that they normally shouldn't have access too. Now here is the problem, those infiltrators work for your government too. So it's all much more messy than we want to believe.

5) I don't see her as intentionally lying, but I do see her stance as basic. I am not sure she has the depth she needs of what she is fighting to make it happen. But maybe this is all she is willing to bring to the public and there is much more behind the scenes. Her "wholesome" personna, while attractive, seems a questionable match for the evil that is already so obscenely apparent. They won't play by any rules.

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Mon, May 4, 2015 - 1:11am
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Just for the mix.

https://ezs35e997c1cf37b4bbaadb19c9f842fdb19.s3.amazonaws.com/SSX%2017-.mp3

I personaly think this discusion is better than what GL writes.

Not to call you out GL, I'm just not where you are trying to take things. You bounce around a LOT and so does your sidekick.

I will call you out on this. You seem to hate private property rights. Am a wrong? Do you believe in private property?

@Abguy, thanks for the Hudes update. The gal has bronze overies in my Opine and it gives me hope that people IN DC are their with a good heart.

At some point this is going to just explode. State capture isn't what most people will agree with. I agree with all the efforts to expand humanity and the consious therin.

Karen is stating in way never before to an audience that has enough understanding to appreciate it enoph to 'get it"

Let's watch.

"Propaganda does not deceive people; it merely helps them to deceive themselves."
Mon, May 4, 2015 - 2:32am
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Karankawa

Good to see you going with the flow. - G.L. and his sidekick do bounce around a bit. Bouncing around is a form of harmonic resonance. We all need to bounce around in order to appreciate the gift of life. Just like the child who finds a blissful state in playful exuberance, adults need to play in order to feel the love.

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb
Mon, May 4, 2015 - 2:46am
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plant intelligence

Lets face it. Most plants are way more intelligent than the average human. We have the empirical advantage of evolutionary superiority but plants are way more in tune with their environment.

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb
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