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. Obama was even videotaped

. Obama was even videotaped bragged about how good he is at killing people. 

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That's  better than killing people with a total blackout and having to get the numbers from international agencies because our people won't  report it.

If u have better numbers than Corbett and Paul, and better sources, then let's see them.  The is so, no it isn't is so, no it isn't  doesn't  work for this Pisces He have this Strang e hang up on details and sources

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Trump locked Americans out of

Trump locked Americans out of their own country 

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Why critters

are so much cooler than humans 

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In 2016 the White House acknowledged some 460 something strikes with casualties est between 2100 - 2300 something off the top of my head. That what they ADMIT to. 

You really don't believe that do you? Perhaps you don't count the folks who died directly from taking out quadaffi but I sure as hell do. I'm not just counting collateral damage from ordinances. 

Those White House figures also don't calculate those who died cuz Obama annihilated medical facilities either. 

He also failed to secure a troop agreement in Iraq and a civil war has already begun.  

If the mudshark wanted to bring troops home. He should have brought the ones in Germany back. 

Edit: btw that is just two of the seven countries he was striking. It also doesn't include his stand down orders to cut off fleeing refugees and assisting others. History will PROVE him one of the greatest tyrants of the modern world. I'll let our own troops who had to serve under address the preventable deaths from his policies. 

Your gonna trust figures from a guy who said you can keep your doctor eh? 

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hope he locks more out 

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Yes the ZOGS really did it

Sorry gotta send ya to jewtube cuz wetube seems to be running bad scripts 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PPiadun9Jo

the GULF OF TONKIN Really pisses me off! 

This is a key element to expose fake news.

And it gets even better when you look up Hill+Knowlton Strategies:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill%2BKnowlton_Strategies

>It is owned by the WPP Group.

>WPP Group

>Sir Martin Stuart Sorrell (born 14 February 1945) is a British businessman and the chief executive officer (CEO) of WPP plc.

>Martin Stuart Sorrell was born in London on 14 February 1945 to a Jewish family with an electronics retailer father

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The trouble with going back

The trouble with going back to the source of many present day problems is that the tree is old, it has many forks in it's branches, and tracking back from any particular problem leaf towards the root seems to be such an onerous tack that it exceeds the attention span or available spare time for the average western individual.

AG1969 posted a Stefan Molyneux video above the contents of which which I agree with. I have also posted Molyneux links in the past, an example being his excellent explanations of r and k epi-genetics equating to socialist and conservative lifestyle and political belief sets.

But I take issue with Molyneux's oft stated affection for capitalism, which seeks to assert that the use of capital as a weapon within capitalism is some part of a corruption. It's actually the core of capitalism. Just as communism is not corrupted by gangster elite who take it over, but the corruption is the core of communism. As we often discuss in DOTS... all of these "-isms" (capitalism, communism, socialism, require that authoritarianism be removed from them before they will progress to a better state of existence. And I see no sign that this breakthrough is even remotely on the horizon.

Anyway Stefan Molyneux promotes the oppose Muslims theme, or is it "meme"? Because Christiantiy is somehow better, or is it less oppressive? Hard to say for sure because Stefan never goes into what different things these religions do when they are on top as compared to how nice and reasonable they can be (at another period in time) while they are in a downswing. eg Are they attracting members during growth, or are they wielding their member slaves after acquisition and compulsion to loyalty. Sort of like the Democrats and Republicans do with their loyal ... err ... voters after they've gotten them to choose a side and step away from the sane middle.

So since Stefan had a TFMR referral today, and kudos for his good works,  in the interests of balance Ag1969, and of bringing something to the table that has slipped from the top ten subjects I'll see your Molyneux and raise you this Thulean Perspective. He has been accused of being a right wing white supremacist by progressive athiests so that's a sign he is over at least one significant target. I doubt he's all that popular with the Christian righties either. They probably call him a leftie subversive. Oh well. Sides!

A thought: If one is indifferent to religious appurtenences served up and bound with the altruistic elements used to justify (any) religion, does that make one a gnostic or a pagan? Or are these just religious terms, derisive and divisive terms of dogma and doctrine which are quite inappropriate for the conversation outside the boundary set by the religious?

Why hate on Muslims or muslim immigrants if you're a self described Christian? After all, Christianity is a middle eastern religion just like the other ME religion you were programmed (or just set up by environment) dislike so much. So you are pre-formed into an  alt muslim already! A buyer of the competitor brand belief set. And competitors of the same side do have reasons to hate each other as they jostle perpetually for dominance of their side. Teasing this out brings a few less well known historical events (Christian schools!) to the discussion. Varg does a decent job on it imo.

Actually my own take is ... well maybe another day for that. It would make this become a very long post.

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Ruffian wrote: In 2016 the

Ruffian wrote:

In 2016 the White House acknowledged some 460 something strikes with casualties est between 2100 - 2300 something off the top of my head. That what they ADMIT to. 

You really don't believe that do you? Perhaps you don't count the folks who died directly from taking out quadaffi but I sure as hell do. I'm not just counting collateral damage from ordinances. 

Those White House figures also don't calculate those who died cuz Obama annihilated medical facilities either. 

He also failed to secure a troop agreement in Iraq and a civil war has already begun.  

If the mudshark wanted to bring troops home. He should have brought the ones in Germany back. 

Edit: btw that is just two of the seven countries he was striking. It also doesn't include his stand down orders to cut off fleeing refugees and assisting others. History will PROVE him one of the greatest tyrants of the modern world. I'll let our own troops who had to serve under address the preventable deaths from his policies. 

Your gonna trust figures from a guy who said you can keep your doctor eh? 

Interesting data methodology. Never saw this style before. 

His numbers were sourced  

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This instintiveley repels me

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Continuity of government

Be this guy: 

Governments only cease to function, when nobody gives a shit what they have to say anymore.

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Careful out there. The only opinion that counts around here belongs to GL. You do know that he never posts anything that isn't truthful and factual, don't you? If not just ask him or better yet listen to him rattle on.

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have no dog in the fight

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They dislike us for more than just our bad movies.

Three years ago, I had the occasion of talking to someone who had just returned from a tour of duty at a M.E. drone base. That person told me that we are drone bombing fourteen countries daily. Maybe thousands of “missions” daily. Most of that bombing is electronic – knocking out communications, computers,  power grids, etc. It’s called “softening the target”. Now then, if that treatment bothers you, and you take some pot-shots at the molesting drone which has live cameras, you get labeled on the map as a terrorist location. Then at the next local wedding you get an uninvited guest that eliminates you and the rest of the village. The attached is a map of drone bases – the base this person worked at, is not even listed. I submit this info because it ties into the CoG article, that I posted above. How? Well, the whole intended purpose of the CoG is to ensure that policies of the MIC/shadow Gov  continue as planned, regardless of whether the chief puppet calls itself red, blue or purple. The military industrial complex agenda stays true to course, or political careers vaporize – just ask Jimmie C – who dared to screw with both the Oil Co’s and the DoD contractors. At this point I do not surmise that any sitting puppet has ever varied from its handlers strict orders ---- – Oh say since JFK? Using terms like trump or Obo is simply to use place date markers to identify the actions of the CoG during some time frame. I have no data to support this next speculation; there may very well be an escalation of droning in the ME – simply because EVERY US gov terrorist activity – at home(~!) or abroad – is currently being escalated, any argument?. Now some readers are famous for asking why, why, pleeze tell me why. First of all; psychopaths create terror and chaos to entertain themselves -- ALWAYS, chaos is where they thrive, and secondly maybe to take the focus off of the pedo disclosures which of course lead right back to CoG main actors. But this is of course total speculation.

and need it be said-- pleeeze do not interpret my comments as taking any position re; chicago blackie puppet and nyc whitie billionaire

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There are times when

we are fishing for truth and found without a hook in the water.   When we continue to build upon misunderstood events, we will continue down rabbit holes that are just detours, being blinded to actual former events.  

Jesus DID NOT COME TO EARTH TO START A RELIGION OF ANY KIND, DID NOT COME TO START SOMETHING CALLED CHRISTIANITY. SORRY FOR SHOUTING BUT WE NEED TO BAIT OUR HOOKS WITH SOME ACTUAL TRUTH.

Yes, it is written:

 Acts 11:26 

Parallel Verses

King James Version
And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

Darby Bible Translation
And having found him, he brought him to Antioch. And so it was with them that for a whole year they were gathered together in the assembly and taught a large crowd: and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.

World English Bible
When he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. It happened, that for a whole year they were gathered together with the assembly, and taught many people. The disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.

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Yes this is after Acts Chapter 2, after the Work of the Cross, after He walked the earth for 33 years, after the resurrection, after they were meeting in homes  at the Church and not a steeple house to be seen.   Where did Jesus tell the people that He came to make a religion and they would be called Christians?

The "key" to understanding the problems with religions, is the understanding of Who and What He did come to earth to present, as His Answer, for all mankind. Finding out where we departed from His presentation.  I must say that even Mr. Fix sees some of the Truth.    

Oh well, I am going to take Linda out for coffee before I jump onto my computer screen.      A major rant is brewing.    Jim

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What an incredible post...

argentus maximus,

If I could give you 1000 hat tips for that, I would. Much of the information provided in "Interview with a Christian Nationalist"  I have already researched and corroborated, but as it says in the end, you can't present facts to a true believer.

The problem with going back to the source of many of our current day problems, is that they are ancient, and few people can look past the actors on the stage that are presented to us daily.

Combine this with the fact that most people never question their own beliefs. Some of them have been handed down over multiple millennias. 

Questions concerning the authenticity of scripture, combined with the legitimacy of authority, are inextricably interwoven, to create a cluster fuck of propaganda that is virtually impossible for most people to dissect.

Although the video brought a smile to my face, the underlying reality of just how screwed up humanity has become, and why, isn't funny. For most, it's not even comprehensible.

So history will repeat itself, just like it always does,

Thank you for making me personally aware of the cycles that affect us, it's brought some sanity to an insane world.

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Top of the morning to you Jim,

I'm happy to hear that you have a major rant brewing.  I would consider you way overdue.

I'm off to my duties for the day, you know, that fixing shit thing that I do occasionally.

I'll be looking forward to reading what you have to say when I return this evening.

Coffee sounds good, I think I'll get myself a cup also. angel

Have a nice day.

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Critters ARE COOLER than Humans

My dearest, Ruffian:

Tears roll down my cheeks at the images of Mama and her first friend said good bye. I had a similar experience with my beloved a few days before confirmation of his impending death. I'm so grateful.

I'm also crying for you and Boss.

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Thanks am. That was a great

Thanks am.

That was a great history lesson. 

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O.K. Mr. Fix, Part one of my continual Rant!

"If'" I had been born, hundreds of years ago, seeing the folly of the religious controllers of nations, I would have been burned at the stake with John Huss.  It still may happen later.  It is not a great honor to be rich or poor, but a true blessing to be counted with those who paid the full price and being seen as "outcast" from the blinded systems of men.

My morning daydream:   "I young Polish man ran out of the steeple house, on a Sunday morning, right after confession and communion, pondering the Latin Mass.  He walked across an open field and fell into a very deep rabbit hole.  There was just not any escape, no way up and darkness.  Walking through tunnels, finding bunches of old men who had also fallen into the same pit.  They said they had the answers and also had been there for a long time.  He listened and considered their testimony.  However, a faint Light was coming from a narrow passage way and a Voice was saying "Come to the Light, walk this way".

"The old men said to stay with them, they had the numbers and understood the long ago written ways of life.  Join them and all will be wonderful, right there within the darkness.  However, that Light had a great attraction.  He began his walk, and at every mile post, a new view of the Truth. A Great Light will show what has been hidden.  

He ran back, right to the old men, sitting in their darkness, told them of the Roadway, the Pathway to real Freedom, a Way out of Darkness, a Lighted Pathway to True Freedom.  They did not want to listen for they were cemented into their pews. Oh what a heartache, to weep as he walked onward, heading for the Great Light of Freedom. " 

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