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Fri, Apr 24, 2015 - 11:39am
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Please don't shoot the messenger

Fri, Apr 24, 2015 - 12:15pm
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any Fukstik...

....that creates a forum, then has imaginary conversations with himself is up to something...I'm too busy carving out a living to figure it out but it's obvious to any brain filled person...and if I ever met gl I'm sure my suppositions would be correct....reel smart, but going nowhere fast and very impressed with the sound of his/her, whatev...voice

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Fri, Apr 24, 2015 - 12:35pm
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Yet another feckless comment by VonBurp

Any douche bag that makes a comment like that without explaining just WTF you are talking about is an utter and complete pussy. Another drive by shooting by Von Burp. Which forum are you referring to VonBurp? Do you think that little piece of info would bring some clarity to your comment?

What is the purpose of yet another driveby on GL? He has not commented in days and here you are again playing the sniper. If I ever met you, I'm sure my suppositions would be correct... "reel" cowardly, but think you are wicked smart.

So sick of the bullshit. Every time DOTS gets back on track and has some real discussion going on one of you idiots stops by to bring the "GL thing" back to the forefront. Fuck off Von Burp, I am so sick of your bullshit. Why don't you go start an "I hate GL and will carry the grudge in perpetuity because I am a complete douchebag " forum.

Pontiac, I will have to answer your question at another time. Just when I think we can all start having positive discussions again, some fukstik shows up to derail it all again and projects their own shitty behavior on to GL. I am beginning to wonder why I keep coming back. 

Fri, Apr 24, 2015 - 12:51pm (Reply to #4064)
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Ag, don't get pissed.....

....I'm on your team...I'm on a plane, a little buzzed and was referring to fj...we'd be fast friends I'm sure....when I look back at dots, it used to be different...you know, everyone pointing out pertinent but hazy seemingly unrelated but relate stuff,now...different for some reason. I only see things from a macro level...folks bring up questions and shit that makes me wonder,wtf...anyway,really, I am on your side...don't wanna cause diversion here, just want to bounce stuff off one another in a positive way...pls don't confuse my post as anything nefarious... check my history, here from the start, stacker at heart and just trying to figure out the next best plan o action ...guess I just saw gl for what he is and wanted to drive the point home....done on that narrative....btw, my face gets blotchy when I eat bread now...why is that...has to be gmo/roundup related...if it's making my face blotchy what's it doing to my insides? What a jinked up world we find ourselves in...how the hell do I eat a sandwich anymore...world is fuked it seems...hope we get to meet one day as I'm sure we'd be on the same pages, nearly across the board....and I primise, no more gl with a badge Comments...have a good weekend....I love you man!

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Fri, Apr 24, 2015 - 1:04pm (Reply to #4064)
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Ag, don't get pissed.....

Dupage

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Fri, Apr 24, 2015 - 1:18pm
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Whole System Thinking!!!!!!

Thanks ag and fj and fix for opening the doors of perception to the only way of viewing our predicament that has any hope of lessening our coming collective experience of payback for bad behavior; karma can indeed be a bitch.

Our experience of existence could get, will get, has gotten, more unstable as the decades pass and it sure seems that the pace is accelerating. It's very comforting to be able to follow mature discussions (except for a few farts here and there) as life can get lonely out on the fringes.

Dots has been and still is one heck of an amazing forum. Considering that it is basically not moderated it speaks well of the people here.

Learn to behave
Fri, Apr 24, 2015 - 1:40pm (Reply to #4066)
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Don't you just love how

Don't you just love how clueless lowlifes lament how dots has degenerated and then proceed to make personal attacks on those not present. There are interesting discussions going on here if you would only read them. Try to move on from your simplistic ideas of what a forum should be.

Thanks for your reply AG. I agree its hard to have an intelligent discussion when it seems like posters are sent over here to derail the ongoing conversations.

Once one gets into some real research, like reading books or articles that have been written by people who have written books. (Most books require extensive research) Then one can see the myriad dot connections. Many of the same controllers that are manipulating metals prices are working on manipulating the stock market, interest rates, regulatory agencies, the economy, your food, health, medicine, air quality- you name it. Its all connected to some degree. I congratulate all those here that have added their own individual expertise to further uncover these disguised or hidden threats to humanity and our liberty.

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@question - in the interest

@question - in the interest of weeding out the deeks - an alternate forum.

Time is the one thing none of us receive in return for anything other than a memory.

Will be spending a great deal more of it @ https://sinepaenitentia.freeforums.net/

Fri, Apr 24, 2015 - 2:18pm
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Pontiac

Alright Pontiac you deserve a response despite VonBurp’s bullshit.

Please keep in mind that I am not a doctor, and I am not going to post any links in this response. If you would like references for my opinion that I am about to present please read through The Healthy Food and Healthy Living forum in the archives of this site.

You will see in the article that abguy posted that a doctor said “We know autism is not caused by vaccines.” Bullshit.

You will see others say Autism is not caused by glyphosate. I say bullshit to that too.

Again, as I stated in a comment to Steve W., what these people never ever refer to is synergistic toxicity.

If you were to ask the parents of any autistic kid if that kid has trouble taking a dump, or repeated bowel impactions, I can guarantee you will get a yes. And some hack doctor is probably pumping that poor little child full of Miralax day after day, which is made out of plastic.

Autistic kids do not have a mental disorder they are toxic!!! While I realize there are a lot of doctors and Science guys that will disagree with me on this, I have done what none of them have done; cured autism in a child, my child.

My experience has proven to me that no one in the medical establishment wants to cure autism, so step 1 is to get that kid out of the evil and corrupt medical establishment.

Here is what I think is causing autism. A lot of kids these days are fed formula rather than breastmilk as was my second child. We had him on what was supposed to be the best formula out there at the time, a product called Nutramigen. Well guess what nutramigen is made of? You guessed it GMO Soy. So now we have an eight week old baby feeding almost exclusively on GMO soy. Needless to say, all of this Glyphosate laced monster food is destroying the gut biota of an infant child where 90% of the immune system is.

You now take this kid that is being destroyed by GMO’s upon entry to the world and start sticking all of the neurotoxins that are in vaccines into him and that beautiful little child’s immune system just gets overloaded with bad stuff and that is when the autoimmune response kicks in.

I have not researched it but I would be willing to bet that you will see a much higher occurrence of ASD after vaccination in kids you were raised on formula vs. kids who were raised on breastmilk.

My son’s autism started to show within days of receiving the MMR vaccine, but I think the set up for this was the GMO soy.

So anyway, what is the solution?

Aluminum and heavy metals detox, GAPS Diet, huge amounts of probiotics and lots of patience.

Detox in the form of bathing in Epsom salts and bentonite clay many times per day and restoring the gut biota with the GAPS Diet and probiotics, working up to 100 billion per day in probiotics. GAPS Diet (google it) is no grains starches sugars, and only organic real food lots of bone broth and fermented food. My whole family did this diet and I can’t begin to tell you the ailments that were healed in all of us. It is the cure for candida overgrowth and leaky gut, the source of autism and most auto immune disorders.

We need to stop looking at things like glyphosate, HFCS, MSG, aspartame, gmo, dryer sheets, soaps and shampoos, etc individually. Yes the level in any one of these things will probably not harm you…too much. But when you put them all together………….. SYNERGYSTIC TOXICITY, leading to an immune response. My opinion is that this immune response will manifest differently in different people, some might get MS,, some might get autism,, crohn’s disease, IBS,, cancer,, whatever. All caused by synergistic toxicity. I hope that helps Pontiac.

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vonburpenstein wrote:....btw,

vonburpenstein wrote:
....btw, my face gets blotchy when I eat bread now...why is that...has to be gmo/roundup related...if it's making my face blotchy what's it doing to my insides? What a jinked up world we find ourselves in...how the hell do I eat a sandwich anymore...world is fuked it seems...hope we get to meet one day as I'm sure we'd be on the same pages, nearly across the board....and I primise, no more gl with a badge Comments...have a good weekend....I love you man!

Sorry son, as Elvis Presely used to say, but you've got candiasis between the booze, the sandwiches, and the GMO bread. You got live style issues my man. Candida Albicans is a fungus but once you have it, it means you have at least a few varieties. 

You can't have a candida without your adrenals being compromised, and once it is in your GI tract, it means it swimming in the lovely polluted lymph system of yours. You can't have candida without being immunocompromised. Your body can't fight the basic pathogens that exist in nature. Remember, John Travolta in the Boy in the Bubble. You and the population are generally at some stage of that. You can't have red blotches on your face unless you have food allergies. You can't have food allergies unless you are immunocompromised, and filled with yeast. It has already penetrated your GI tract, your lymph system and by the time you get blotches on your skin, it has found other organs to live happily on. You'll find that most conditions from diabetes, cancer, allergies, brain fatigue ( I see signs of it) all have candida, heavy metals and parasites as concomitant conditions. 

Since there are heavy metals in that Wonder Bread you consume along with GMO's, and your hunger for meat has definitely infested you with creepy crawlies (worms)in your intestinal tract. Let's not forget all the antibiotics and other pharmaceuticals that are in our water supply and soil.

As far as the booze is concerned, you probably needed it to take the edge off, or maybe give a little boost to your blood sugar. And there again is a sign that all is not well. 

Of course, you probably have no idea how to proceed here because you probably never read any of the many forums that were here on the subject. tsk, tsk, Ya got a stack of gold and a toxic dump in your body. That's what you get for relying on airport and airline food. And sure, don't believe me. Take one of those gold coins, because if you continue like this you won't need it, and see a good nutritionist or holistic doc and let him take a live blood cell analysis. Holy shit, ya gonna find that a stranger on a forum was right.

As far as the booze, besides suspecting that you aren't the only one on here that writes and drinks at the same time, (wouldn't be a problem except it effects your bedside manner) you will be able to save money on that booze shortly. You see that Candida is a regular NAPA Valley. The sugar you put in your body ferments and there are some very nice case histories of people who wake up drunk and never touched the bottle. You might want to read William Crook, MD. He's dead now and he was a bit strange guy and his treatment methods with anti-fungals was a little heavy handed but at least he acknowledged the issue. 

You see FJ knows what he is talking about when he says the number one weapon against humanity is food and the corruption of science. 

Don't worry Vonbeer-stein, if you ever meet me, I'll recognize you first.

Fri, Apr 24, 2015 - 4:34pm (Reply to #4070)
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AG - autism

Thank you for your quick response. I'm off to the dark earth conference so I'll just give you this short reply for now.

You have demonstrated the incredible power that we have when we take full control of our own lives. You did your own research; you relied on your gut feelings and your own original thinking. You were willing to work hard and willing to keep at it until you were successful. And you were rewarded. This is how life is supposed to be. I know several other people that have performed other healing miracles. I know that we all have the power to heal if we believe; these miracles can be a way of life.

You connected the dots and then fixed the problem. Very admirable.

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@FJ Glad you took notice. 

@FJ

Glad you took notice. I nominate Monserat's (sp?) words as the post of the year. Poetic, succinct, and accurate.

"As a woman who has sought truth her whole life I cannot tell you how utterly offended I am by sheer egotism or cold intellectualism. How scientism has ripped the sacred to shreds. How nihilism has replaced meaning. How traditional religion has become a caricature. How truth is often killed by logic."

However, I'll add at the risk of ruining something that is already fairly complete. Many here are into prophecies, revelations, heck we even want to know what the market will before it does it. It's the nature of man to want to know the future but beware too much information can be hazardous. I won't qualify that statement but I could at the right place, people and time.

Nostradamus, the Bible, Edgar Cayce, and the guy who thinks he is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce aren't the only games in town. It seems the Hindu Sages predicted these times many, many years ago. I think they nailed it. But first, I'll have a crack.

Science has been corrupted and so has religion but it's not new. Man is no longer in touch with nature. He builds his cities on flood plains, earthquake faults, and land fills. Architects of today still can't build cities that are resistant to flooding, and storm surges like the Mayans and other cultures did many years ago. They corrupted the calendar and time for they do not want you to understand the importance and value of it. Might be able to predict markets better than we do and understand the nature of the cosmo's the way many ancient cultures still do. We have no cultural rituals. While I'm not much of ritual guy myself, certain "customs" shall we say have value. We have stories and myths that inform of us of the past and the true nature of the cosmos. Instead we have tv and weather guy to tell us if it's going to rain. The idea of life on other planets wouldn't be so far fetched, and we wouldn't rely on government and science to tell us that there might be life elsewhere. In this regard, we haven't advanced more than the Europe did in the dark ages that believed that the earth was flat.

We don't have collective dances and songs besides what they play at the disco and the gym. We have no greetings for strangers and visitors. We throw garbage on the ground, put drugs in the ground, in our foods, and in our bodies and wonder why we have red blotches on our face. We have billions of dollars of weather derivates so the elite can make money out of controlling the weather, destroying crops or do whatever they want depending on where they put their money on the table. We are ignorant of the natural laws and have replaced it with dogma.

Ok, now for what the Ancient Hindu's predicted about our times. The future is mallable indeed. However, the nature of our times is unlikely to change any time soon for alot of reasons. 

“It is the lowest instincts that spur the men of the Kali Yuga on. They prefer to choose false ideas. They do not hesitate to persecute sages. Desire torments them. Slovenliness, illness, hunger, and fear spread. There will be severe droughts. The different regions of countries will be in conflict with each other. The sacred books are no longer respected. Men will be without morals, irritable and sectarian. In the age of Kali false doctrines and misleading writings spread… Many will perish… Most of the new leaders are of working-class origin. They will hunt down the priests and upholders of knowledge. Fetuses will be killed in the stomachs of their mothers and heroes will be assassinated. The Shudra will claim to behave like Brahmans and the priests like laborers. Thieves will become kings, and kings will be the thieves. Women who have relationships with several men will be numerous…. The earth will produce plenty in some places and too little in others. Rulers will confiscate property and use it badly. They will cease to protect the people. Base men who have gained a certain amount of learning (without having the virtues necessary for its use) will be esteemed as sages. Men who do not possess the virtues of warriors will become kings. Scholars will be in the service of mediocre, conceited, and malevolent men. Priests will degrade themselves by selling the sacraments. There will be many displaced persons, wandering from one country to another… Predatory animals will be more violent….

“Young girls will do trade in their virginity. The god of the clouds will be inconsistent in the distribution of the rains. Shopkeepers will run dishonest businesses. They will be surrounded by pretentious, false philosophers. There will be many beggars and unemployed people. Everyone will use hard and vulgar language. No one will be able to trust anyone else. People will be envious… moralizing puritans characterize the period of the end of the Kali Yuga. … Wealth and harvests will decrease… Rapes will be frequent. Many people will be treacherous, lustful, base, and foolhardy… There will be many children born whose life expectancy is no more than sixteen years… Wheat supplies will be stolen. Thieves will steal from thieves. People will become inactive, lethargic, and purposeless. Illness, rats, and noxious substances will plague them… Unqualified people will pass as experts in matters of morals and religion. People will massacre women, children, cows, and one another.” (Daniélou, Alain; While the Gods Play: Shaiva Oracles and Predictions on the Cycles of History and the Destiny of Mankind. Inner Traditions / Bear & Co, Aug 1, 1987. p. 211f.)

This quote appeared on Giza Death Star sometime back. I think it says all that needs to be said about the times we are facing. It's worth looking at Farrells own commentary on boom boxes, GMO's, and mortgage frauds.

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@FJ Glad you took notice. 

@FJ

Glad you took notice. I nominate Monserat's (sp?) words as the post of the year. Poetic, succinct, and accurate.

"As a woman who has sought truth her whole life I cannot tell you how utterly offended I am by sheer egotism or cold intellectualism. How scientism has ripped the sacred to shreds. How nihilism has replaced meaning. How traditional religion has become a caricature. How truth is often killed by logic."

However, I'll add at the risk of ruining something that is already fairly complete. Many here are into prophecies, revelations, heck we even want to know what the market will before it does it. It's the nature of man to want to know the future but beware too much information can be hazardous. I won't qualify that statement but I could at the right place, people and time.

Nostradamus, the Bible, Edgar Cayce, and the guy who thinks he is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce aren't the only games in town. It seems the Hindu Sages predicted these times many, many years ago. I think they nailed it. But first, I'll have a crack.

Science has been corrupted and so has religion but it's not new. Man is no longer in touch with nature. He builds his cities on flood plains, earthquake faults, and land fills. Architects of today still can't build cities that are resistant to flooding, and storm surges like the Mayans and other cultures did many years ago. They corrupted the calendar and time for they do not want you to understand the importance and value of it. Might be able to predict markets better than we do and understand the nature of the cosmo's the way many ancient cultures still do. We have no cultural rituals. While I'm not much of ritual guy myself, certain "customs" shall we say have value. We have stories and myths that inform of us of the past and the true nature of the cosmos. Instead we have tv and weather guy to tell us if it's going to rain. The idea of life on other planets wouldn't be so far fetched, and we wouldn't rely on government and science to tell us that there might be life elsewhere. In this regard, we haven't advanced more than the Europe did in the dark ages that believed that the earth was flat.

We don't have collective dances and songs besides what they play at the disco and the gym. We have no greetings for strangers and visitors. We throw garbage on the ground, put drugs in the ground, in our foods, and in our bodies and wonder why we have red blotches on our face. We have billions of dollars of weather derivates so the elite can make money out of controlling the weather, destroying crops or do whatever they want depending on where they put their money on the table. We are ignorant of the natural laws and have replaced it with dogma.

Ok, now for what the Ancient Hindu's predicted about our times. The future is mallable indeed. However, the nature of our times is unlikely to change any time soon for alot of reasons. 

“It is the lowest instincts that spur the men of the Kali Yuga on. They prefer to choose false ideas. They do not hesitate to persecute sages. Desire torments them. Slovenliness, illness, hunger, and fear spread. There will be severe droughts. The different regions of countries will be in conflict with each other. The sacred books are no longer respected. Men will be without morals, irritable and sectarian. In the age of Kali false doctrines and misleading writings spread… Many will perish… Most of the new leaders are of working-class origin. They will hunt down the priests and upholders of knowledge. Fetuses will be killed in the stomachs of their mothers and heroes will be assassinated. The Shudra will claim to behave like Brahmans and the priests like laborers. Thieves will become kings, and kings will be the thieves. Women who have relationships with several men will be numerous…. The earth will produce plenty in some places and too little in others. Rulers will confiscate property and use it badly. They will cease to protect the people. Base men who have gained a certain amount of learning (without having the virtues necessary for its use) will be esteemed as sages. Men who do not possess the virtues of warriors will become kings. Scholars will be in the service of mediocre, conceited, and malevolent men. Priests will degrade themselves by selling the sacraments. There will be many displaced persons, wandering from one country to another… Predatory animals will be more violent….

“Young girls will do trade in their virginity. The god of the clouds will be inconsistent in the distribution of the rains. Shopkeepers will run dishonest businesses. They will be surrounded by pretentious, false philosophers. There will be many beggars and unemployed people. Everyone will use hard and vulgar language. No one will be able to trust anyone else. People will be envious… moralizing puritans characterize the period of the end of the Kali Yuga. … Wealth and harvests will decrease… Rapes will be frequent. Many people will be treacherous, lustful, base, and foolhardy… There will be many children born whose life expectancy is no more than sixteen years… Wheat supplies will be stolen. Thieves will steal from thieves. People will become inactive, lethargic, and purposeless. Illness, rats, and noxious substances will plague them… Unqualified people will pass as experts in matters of morals and religion. People will massacre women, children, cows, and one another.” (Daniélou, Alain; While the Gods Play: Shaiva Oracles and Predictions on the Cycles of History and the Destiny of Mankind. Inner Traditions / Bear & Co, Aug 1, 1987. p. 211f.)

This quote appeared on Giza Death Star sometime back. I think it says all that needs to be said about the times we are facing. It's worth looking at Farrells own commentary on boom boxes, GMO's, and mortgage frauds.

Fri, Apr 24, 2015 - 6:12pm (Reply to #4074)
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@GL - would second that,

@GL - would second that, don't be a stranger, you are vastly under appreciated.

Be well,

John

Fri, Apr 24, 2015 - 10:06pm
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AG, GL

Thanks for the Autism and Candida comments. 

Truth.

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And by the way pontiac

The information that has come to me since I formed my opinion above only reinforces my opinion. If you look at the explosion of the aforementioned auto immune disorders, and the explosion of glyphosate, you will see something far easier for a simpleton like myself to understand. I recently posted this. Think of one of those,, "All you need to know about _____ in one chart" headlines you see at ZH

What else has changed in the environment at this rate? Vaccines? GMO's? Round up? Pharmaceuticals? High Fructose Corn Syrup?Rap Music? Or is it Genetic as they want you to believe? Now maybe someday science and the media will prove that this is absolutely wrong, I don't know. Right now they are busy doing character assassination on the people that made the chart and had the nerve to publish it. Either way, they should stop spraying that crap until they figure out the truth. Since the truth won't change, it makes one wonder why everybody seems to be wasting so much time before they seek it, doesn't it?

Now I would re-read the Nassim Taleeb posted earlier. And then think about Monsanto's track record. This whole Glyphosate thing is just sinister at every level. 

Shhhhhhhhhhh!

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57Goldtop

It is nice to see you. Thank you for the kind word!smiley Truth is just below love on my favorite words list.

Fri, Apr 24, 2015 - 10:53pm (Reply to #4041)
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Great discussions I'm happy to just read.

AG 1969,

No, I wouldn't be cutting off your electricity just yet, as I am not about to quit my day job yet.

In my extremely limited amount of free time this weekend, I will be working on construction of a "Tesla hairpin circuit".

To the best of my understanding, it is an integral part of the design.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DpZ5Ecgt9c If you watch it on YouTube, there's a half a dozen similar designs, I need to build a kick ass one of my own.

The components will be constructed from scratch, such as the "Tesla counter rotating sparkgap", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v0gnp5CD-M a series of high voltage plate capacitors, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPD7skZ8OSo and some pancake biflar coils. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI3GYNLh5Mc

These videos are just conceptual, as my design differs in several significant aspects.

Most problematic, is I'm working just a tad over full-time again, with some seriously profitable ventures. These are the things that keep me up at night. If all stays on schedule, I might even have Sunday off.

Late night, I'm studying ancient history, metaphysical philosophy, natural law, and keeping an eye on current events. Let's just say I got tired of sitting around waiting for the end of the world as we know it. Now it's a race against time. Have a happy weekend everyone,

hopefully, I'll have time to do a serious post on Sunday.

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."
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@ ag

Nicely spoken, truth is love and love is truth. When love is visualised in our minds eye a morphic resonance sings a beautiful song of truth. A short stroll beyond our conditioned minds reveals a world of wonder. Montserrat, G.L. and others are instrumental in keeping this place alive with their great insight.

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb
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The mother of all "Round Ups".

Glyphosate will kill and maim most basic forms of plant life even in the smallest imaginable dose. Our bodies are fully reliant on simple yeasts and plant based living organisms for our good health. We are all killing ourselves by ingesting 'round up'. images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRFRGQTYVXwZoIeutjdzuq 

In high tide fish eat the ants, in low tide ants eat the fish. - Thai proverb

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