The setup for the big trade

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help please

I'd like to post a downloadable file to this blog so people can easily compute action/reaction lines.  What service is free and unlimited for this?  Thanks.

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Capital rotations during a

Capital rotations during a decade and a half of stagflation:

Dow in blue

SPX in red

Russell in green

Dow-Transports ratio in black

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Would you make a good witness to an accident? To a chart?

Q&A to see how much you saw there.

Did you notice two previous periods when volume was at current levels?

What happened to stocks immediately following those last two times?

Were those times lows or highs for stocks, or another kind of "phase"?

Seeing as this thread and forum are about gold, if gold was on that chart, which it isn't, did you mentally plot gold to see how it would fit? Did gold correlate with anything on the chart?

There are two cycles on the chart. Did you spot that the big one relates to volume and not price?

Did you notice that the smaller cycle correlates the Dow-Trannies with stocks for the rising part and switches to an inverse correlation after then? Does that have any consequence now or not?

Did you see how the stocks rallied begin with the blue (DJIA), then the red takes over (SPX), and finally the bull rolls into the green (Russell)?

What happens when the ratio makes a sudden (not gradual) spiky reversal to cancel out a vertical move recently made?

Since the ratio is obviously a percentage number (vertical axis not shown) have you gone looking to see what kind of number is "high" or "low" for the ratio, and does this last for long periods or not?

That long cycle: It's recent upwave encompassed a decade and a half of stock index trading range and subsequent breakout. Would that be accumulation, distribution, or random and meaningless?

If it is not meaningless, does it forecast anything for (presumeably) the next wave of that cycle?

Do you look at charts hard enough to see what they show? I gave a lot out with this one chart. If I did not post these questions I suppose very very few received what was given.

Can the rotational process from Wall St/the corporations to Spx to Russell stocks help to highlight a five wave sequence in a trend? Can you see a possible "five", or a possible five still under construction?

A tough question which is only partly and vaguely answered by this chart: Who likely now owns US stocks or is likely buying them? Who might be selling into demand? Is there any view suggested by the chart how long this transfer of assets might take?

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Dow transports is very

Dow transports is very similar to Gold, look at the end, were we are now. A spike up in volume seems to trigger a breakdown in spx, dow and russell and a breakout to the upside for gold, sorry dow transport. 5waves up from 2008 crash another 5waves up from 2016 low and a final 5 tiny waves up in x days? I think we got 10days left cool

  1. Dow at 20000
  2. US debt at 20000 billion (in 10days?)
  3. The inauguration 20th of Jan.

3 events with the number 2, 32 the inversion of 23, 2 three's 33 3x2 three times=6-6-6, it smells like another freemason-illuminati-old money event coming and we the willing sacrifice sheeple are the bagholders. That is my augury/prophecy for the near future...

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re Free download hosting

Hi Pete,

Thanks for your offer to give a free download for computing the Babson lines.  I did a google search and came up with this site:

http://www.filefactory.com/

I haven't used it but is seems exactly suited for what you are looking for.  Thanks for all your great posts on Babson techniques.  I'm learning a lot but still need to learn to draw valid Babson lines myself, so I hope your download will help.

Cheers,

Banman17

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@Dow Transports

"A Mathematical Mystery Tour" by Mark Wahl--in his chapter on geometry-- he discusses the 'dance of the sixes'--to wit.

diameter of the moon = 2160 miles = 6x6x20, diameter of the earth = 7920 = 2x6x660, diameter of the sun = 2x2x6x6x6000 = 864000, distance of earth to moon = 6x60x660 = 237600.  Speed of the earth as it goes around the sun = 66600mph, number of radi of earth that would reach the moon = 60.

Is this the role of the sun, moon and earth in the Delta theory?  You might be on to something Solsson!

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There is a connection between

There is a connection between the numbers, that's how our universe/solarsystem is constructed.

  • 86400 seconds in a day (sun)
  • 43200 seconds for a ½day, 432Hz is the base frequency for tuning instruments (music)
  • 21600 seconds for a quarter of a day (moon)

all numbers are reduced to 9

8+6+4+0+0=1+8=9
4+3+2+0+0=9
2+1+6+0+0=9

216=6*6*6, all living creatures base component is coal/carbon. The atom has 6protons 6neutrons 6electrons

so I guess we are all devils right cheeky oh and a mile is 1.61(8) kilometer, close to Phi the golden ratio.

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ah, another example of Babson's 0-Y R1 line

Today in Feb Gold.  Still going up.

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Feb Gold daily

There's a 3X on/near the Inaugural date.  Sometimes prices zoom up and through the X with a vengeance.  The latest ml is the typical objective.  Interestingly, the daily chart only shows a pair of m0 pivots for the rally so far.  Two pair of m0's are the minimum needed to declare a probable major pivot.  We might get more volatility of a longer duration over the next several days to get us the minimum for a major pivot.

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And just in time for Davos - Ray on 'fake' and disclosure

don't know if this required reading for davo's; saw this through another site last week; apologies if already posted. couple of interesting comments - but not trying to sway anyone, mr. prosecutor, just the facts.

And ray says: http://www.businessinsider.com/ray-dalio-interview-henry-blodget-1-2017

Some comments by dalio

...So when I say I believe in radical truth and radical transparency, all I mean is we take things that ordinarily people would hide, and we put them on the table, particularly mistakes, problems, and weaknesses. We put those on the table, and we look at them together. We don't hide them. That's what I mean by radical truth. I mean accepting reality...

...I'm saying something more. I'm saying our system would work for most of the world...

...With the media, we don't know what's true, and we don't have radical transparency because we're seeing everything through somebody else's eyes. There's no other industry that has as much power and as much freedom and as little quality control. I can't imagine how anyone could not think that's a problem...

... We don't know what truth is anymore. You or other media people can say there's no problem, but you're losing your credibility. There's distortion, and it's hurting our society. And as a result of that, there will be forces that, one way or another, are going to naturally bring that into equilibrium. Pendulums swing from one extreme to another extreme. As a result I would think that a self-regulatory organization would be probably the best path...

And this link: http://www.businessinsider.com/bridgewater-associates-personality-tests-2016-8

These are the personality tests you take to get a job at the world's largest hedge fund

regards,

It does not matter how slowly you go, so long as you do not stop - Confucius
Faith is the bird that sings when the dawn is still dark - R. Tagore
Most of the shadows of this life are caused by standing in one's own sunshine - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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@ solsson plus

FWIW: fib numbers - stars / zodiac and pentagrams ( think whitehouse and i get into your inauguration perspective), apologies if posted and this is way out of my wheelhouse - thanks AM for introducing numbers to me.

Fibonacci Numbers As A Basis of the Zodiac

Published on Mar 9, 2015

Dividing the Fibonacci numbers by 10 results in a sequence of 60 numbers, which when placed evenly around a circle produce the number zero four times precisely at the beginning of the cardinal zodiac signs. The number 5 appears at the beginning of the other zodiac signs. There are symmetries, pentagrams, and embedded Fibonacci-like sequences.
Sequences of Fibonacci numbers in a modulus function were mentioned by Joseph Louis Lagrange in 1774 and are known as Pisano periods. In modern times Brian Ray Payne, Jain Jain, Russell Ohlhaussen and others have discovered curious relationships between Pisano periods and astrology.

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Link for Action/Reaction Calculator Download

https://sabercathost.com/folder/4191/Action-Reaction_Calculators

If I've done this right, you just click on the link and you will have access to two files within the folder for downloading to your computer.  You will need MS Excel to use the spreadsheet; the .doc file (MS Word) can be viewed at the host site, I think.

Post any questions about the calculators here on the blog.

It is worthwhile to copy the original worksheet, save it as a second worksheet, and leave it unmodified in the event the active worksheet gets messed up somehow.

Enjoy, and let me know what you think.

The reason I created the spreadsheet for myself is that most online tools and charting programs are inaccurate or too limited when it comes to graphics.  Oftentimes, trades can be made at line values when intraday timeframes indicate a turn by reversal bars, alternate closes, RSI extremes and divergence, etc.  You can often make trades with extreme risk/reward potentials when you know the true value of the target line(s).

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Here a can of worms (possibly) being opened

Massachusetts judge says Exxon must hand over climate documents

So ... aside from the research which will point slightly in some direction but contain caveats if honest .... where does the climate change money come from and who does it go to, in the case of one oil giant?

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Bye bye JNUG, I tried the

Bye bye JNUG, I tried the final number 9 but failed, jumped out lower. We are at a round number and AM not being long ...

mmm tomorrow the baker's dozen Friday the 13th.

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re Calc download

Hi Pete,

Thanks for the calculator download.  I was just wondering if the downloads that they require you to install on your browser are virus free.  I usually don't like to install programs that I do not have a choice in installing as they may be hidden key loggers or viruses lurking inside.  It seems you cannot download unless you install some software.  Let me know if you have checked out their downloads and if they will not harm my computer. 

Thanks again for all your work.

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It's a valid concern.  Download the files but don't open them.  First have them scanned for viruses by your antivirus software.  I use AVG free and always scan downloaded files.  If I right click on any file, I can select an antivirus scan that AVG runs.

Malwarebytes.com is also a great site for antivirus and malware detection and elimination.  Their free program (be sure to unclick the professional version trial before installing) works very well, not perfect or all inclusive, but can be updated, etc for free.  It's saved my behind on a number of occasions.

I can assure you that when I uploaded the files they were as clean as the driven snow.  I would really doubt the site would mess with that, and try to keep a very safe environment, or they'd be out of business by Friday.

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re scanning

Thanks for the prompt reply Pete,

I have a mac with parallels, so instead of downloading on the Windows side, I downloaded with the mac and didn't have to install anything, and I managed to get the files ok with no viruses like you said.  Thanks again for uploading them and the prompt reply.  I'll have to play around with them to see how they work. Many thanks.

Chris

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Ronnie Fattal's 1/14/17 gold and silver analysis

Ronnie appears to be softening his bearish sentiment a bit. After watching many of his videos it is becoming apparent to me that the best his analysis can give you is odds. Betting when odds are in your favor on the direction of the market you are following. I am contrary in my thinking and I prefer taking long shots which will almost always pay the most if you are right. One thing about market analysis is that I personally believe the 800 pound gorillas have all this analysis also. These entities can move markets to create advantages for them and thereby fool the smaller investors by "painting technical scenarios". When they get sentiment in one direction or the other they can then reverse their bets and catch most players wrong footed. All this new algo computer trading along with connectivity to huge sums of capital  has made this quite easy for them.   

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Gold in different Currency

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=%24GOLD%3A%24USD&p=W&st=1980-12-16&en=today&id=p17322549088&a=494043022

Do you think that they are trying to drive sentiment down in India?

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G-V Very high V condition in

G-V

Very high V condition in place from now until end of January, particularly now until about 25th.

People who work with people, - it's hard to pull crisis points, but maybe 17th Jan can have everything from the other times all at once?

Let all the alphas, alpha legislators, and psychos do battle for and against each other, avoid being collateral damage, and stand aside to await information of the decision at the lowest cost.

I'm already beginning to look past the month of January to February 2017, and 5th-6th, 8th and 12th look promising for good trading opportunity.

Stops for the (weakish) bull case for gold still set off the pivots I previously described, and on the new one added by the market last week. If this shifts to the downside the conditions for accelleration are present. Good stops will trip before any accelleration manifests.

I am still long term long, but have not added new longs (PM) as the opportunities so far have been not attractive enough. I could miss a bus this time, but if that occurs there will be other times. The reasons for not acquiring yet have been a difference between price extremes and preferred times at which those price turns have occurred. I am more interested in buying at the right time than thinking about what the best price might be for any one particular iteration of testing price range boundaries.

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