Hurricane Isaac

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Mon, Aug 27, 2012 - 8:11pm (Reply to #121)
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Discussion on Isaac from NOAA 4 PM CDT MON AUG 27 2012

From: https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCDAT4+shtml/272058.shtml

WTNT44 KNHC 272058
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TROPICAL STORM ISAAC DISCUSSION NUMBER 27
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL092012
400 PM CDT MON AUG 27 2012

THE MUCH ANTICIPATED INTENSIFICATION PROCESS APPEARS TO HAVE FINALLY
STARTED BASED ON REPORTS FROM AN AIR FORCE RESERVE RECONNAISSANCE
AIRCRAFT AND FROM NEARBY NOAA BUOY 42003. THE CENTRAL PRESSURE HAS
DECREASED BY AT LEAST 7 MB SINCE THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY. THE HIGHEST
FLIGHT-LEVEL WINDS OBSERVED HAVE BEEN 74 KT IN THE SOUTHWEST
QUADRANT AND THE HIGHEST BIAS-ADJUSTED SFMR WINDS ARE NEAR 58 KT.
THESE DATA SUPPORT AN INTENSITY OF 60 KT.
ISAAC WOBBLED WESTWARD THIS AFTERNOON...BUT A REPRESENTATIVE INITIAL
MOTION ESTIMATE IS 305/10. THE LATEST 12Z NHC MODEL GUIDANCE IS IN
BETTER AGREEMENT ON A WEST-NORTHWEST TO NORTHWEST MOTION TOWARD THE
SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA AND MISSISSIPPI COASTAL AREAS OVER THE NEXT
36-48 HOURS. AFTER 48 HOURS...HOWEVER...THE MODEL GUIDANCE REMAINS
DIVERGENT ON THE HANDLING OF A SHORTWAVE TROUGH FORECAST TO DIG
SOUTHEASTWARD FROM THE UPPER MIDWEST AND INTO THE MID-ATLANTIC
REGION...FOLLOWED BY A RIDGE BUILDING IN BEHIND THE TROUGH. THE GFS
AND ECMWF...OUR MOST RELIABLE MODELS... NOW HAVE VERY SIMILAR
SOLUTIONS THROUGH DAY 5...AND THE OFFICIAL FORECAST TRACK IS
BETWEEN THOSE TWO MODELS.

SATELLITE DATA INDICATE ISAAC HAS BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED OVER THE
PAST 6 HOURS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF A CENTRAL DENSE OVERCAST CLOUD
PATTERN OVER THE CENTER ALONG WITH A DEVELOPING EYE IN RECON DATA.
SATELLITE DATA T-NUMBERS HAVE INCREASED TO T4.5/77 KT FROM TAFB AND
SAB. RECON WIND DATA INDICATE THE RADIUS OF MAXIMUM WINDS HAS ALSO
PULLED INWARD TO ABOUT 30 N MI. ALTHOUGH ADDITIONAL CONVECTION HAS
BEEN DEVELOPING IN THE NORTHEASTERN QUADRANT...DRY MID-LEVEL AIR
STILL LURKS JUST TO THE EAST AND SOUTHEAST OF THE CDO FEATURE...
WHICH COULD BE ENTRAINED INTO THE INNER CORE AT ANY TIME AND
DISRUPT THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. DUE TO THE PROXIMITY OF DRY
AIR...THE INTENSITY FORECAST INDICATES ONLY MODEST DEVELOPMENT FOR
THE NEXT 24 HOURS. HOWEVER...STRENGTHENING IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE
RIGHT UP UNTIL LANDFALL OCCURS DUE TO THE VERY WARM WATERS THE
CYCLONE WILL BE PASSING OVER AND THE VERY FAVORABLE UPPER-LEVEL
OUTFLOW REGIME THAT ISAAC IS FORECAST TO DEVELOP BY 24 HOURS. THE
INTENSITY FORECAST IS JUST SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THE MODEL GUIDANCE.

BECAUSE SIGNIFICANT HAZARDS EXTEND WELL AWAY FROM THE CENTER...IT IS
IMPORTANT NOT TO FOCUS ON THE EXACT FORECAST TRACK. THE SLOW FORWARD
SPED OF AROUND 5 KT AFTER LANDFALL WILL RESULT IN A HEAVY RAIN AND
FLOOD SITUATION FOR PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL GULF COAST AND LOWER
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY REGIONS.

Mon, Aug 27, 2012 - 9:25pm
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Steveo's Prep List

Thanks Steveo! Very good list. Reminders for a few items that must do now. Small suggestion for electrolyte replacement drink--would recommend Vitalyte.

https://www.vitalyte.com/drinks-1.html

For myself and several friends it is much more palatable than Gatorade or other 'electrolyte replacement drinks' and the formula is actually more physiologically balanced for proper electrolyte replacement in a balanced way.

Thanks again for sharing your hard work.

Mon, Aug 27, 2012 - 9:31pm
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Steveo's Prep List - Vitalyte

Addendum to Vitalyte suggestion. It comes as a powder and stores well in original containers. Do not know if freezing is an option for longer storage but expect it to perform as well as any other powered drink mix. Also is rotated regularly in my house as it is the primary drink of choice. Of course need potable water to reconstitute any of these drinks.

Mon, Aug 27, 2012 - 10:51pm
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Well for the love of Pete!

I was sitting here reading about my brothers in arms while sending warm and fuzzy thoughts towards those in the strike zone, when the power went out! 10 secs later the diesel fired up and we are (expensively!) back in business. Keep in mind I am a good 300 miles from N.O and likely wont see even a breeze from Isaac. So I am wondering "what the HECK?"

After a few phone calls it seems some drunk smashed the main power feed into town. Estimated time to repair? "Sometime tomorrow"

Just goes to show you you dont always see these little disasters coming.

To those in harms way: Be safe you guys.

Mon, Aug 27, 2012 - 10:59pm
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Roark

I see them every single day.

Be excellent to each other.
Mon, Aug 27, 2012 - 11:39pm (Reply to #122)
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NOAA Discussion for 10 PM EDT MON AUG 27, 2012

Still not yet a hurricane. Isaac is not Katrina 2. But, it is definitely disruptive and will strengthen over night.

The question is if the storm will move north at current rate and have significant surge into NOLA.

I hope not. It's already disruptive enough on the fuel operations along the GOM.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCDAT4+shtml/280255.shtml

WTNT44 KNHC 280255

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TROPICAL STORM ISAAC DISCUSSION NUMBER 28
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL092012
1000 PM CDT MON AUG 27 2012

THE SATELLITE PRESENTATION OF ISAAC HAS NOT CHANGED VERY MUCH DURING
THE PAST FEW HOURS. INFRARED AND MICROWAVE IMAGERY SHOW A STRONG
BAND OF CONVECTION...PERHAPS THE BEGINNING OF AN EYEWALL...WRAPPING
AROUND THE SOUTH AND EAST PORTIONS OF THE CIRCULATION. HOWEVER...
AIRCRAFT OBSERVATIONS INDICATE THAT THE CONVECTIVE BAND WAS OPEN TO
THE NORTHWEST AND THAT THE LOW-LEVEL CENTER WAS DISPLACED A LITTLE
TO THE SOUTH OF THE ROTATION SEEN IN SATELLITE PICTURES. THE
MINIMUM PRESSURE HAS NOT FALLEN SIGNIFICANTLY DURING THE PAST
SEVERAL HOURS AND THE NOAA AND AIR FORCE AIRCRAFT HAVE NOT REPORTED
WINDS ANY HIGHER THAN WHAT WAS MEASURED LATE THIS AFTERNOON.
THEREFORE...ISAAC REMAINS A 60-KT TROPICAL STORM FOR THIS ADVISORY.
ISAAC CONTINUES TO HAVE DIFFICULTLY MAINTAINING DEEP CONVECTION
OVER THE NORTHERN SEMICIRCLE LIKELY DUE TO SOME DRY AIR
ENTRAINMENT. OTHERWISE...ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS SHOULD BE
CONDUCIVE FOR STRENGTHENING UNTIL LANDFALL. ISAAC IS FORECAST TO
BECOME A HURRICANE OVERNIGHT AND NHC INTENSITY FORECAST IS SLIGHTLY
HIGHER THAN MOST OF THE GUIDANCE.

ISAAC HAS BEEN MOVING NORTHWESTWARD OR 310 DEGREES AT 9 KT. THE
TRACK GUIDANCE HAS CONTINUED TO COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT DURING
THE FIRST 36 TO 48 HOURS OF THE FORECAST PERIOD. ISAAC SHOULD MOVE
NORTHWESTWARD TOWARD THE NORTH-CENTRAL GULF COAST WHERE A BREAK IN
THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE IS LOCATED. AS A MID-LATITUDE TROUGH
BYPASSES ISAAC IN A DAY OR SO...SOME RIDGING BUILDS TO THE
NORTHWEST OF THE CYCLONE. THIS IS EXPECTED TO CAUSE ISAAC TO
SLOW DOWN AS IT MOVES INLAND. AFTER 72 HOURS...THE CYCLONE SHOULD
BEGIN TO MOVE A LITTLE FASTER TOWARD THE NORTH AND NORTHEAST AS IT
MOVES AROUND THE WESTERN SIDE OF A MID-LEVEL RIDGE THAT SLIDES
EASTWARD ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY AND MID-ATLANTIC REGIONS. THE NEW
NHC TRACK IS SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY AND REMAINS BETWEEN
THE ECMWF AND GFS MODELS.

ISAAC IS A LARGE TROPICAL CYCLONE. A DANGEROUS STORM SURGE...HEAVY
RAINFALL...AND STRONG WINDS EXTEND WELL AWAY FROM THE CENTER AND
ARE EXPECTED TO AFFECT A LARGE PORTION OF THE NORTHERN GULF COAST.
THE THREAT OF HEAVY RAINFALL AND FLOODING IS ALSO EXPECTED TO
SPREAD INLAND OVER THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY REGION DURING THE
NEXT FEW DAYS.

Mon, Aug 27, 2012 - 11:54pm
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Storm surge exceedance at NOAA site?

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/033838.shtml

Guys, am I reading that storm surge prediction map correctly?

Is it saying that NOLA is going to have a 12-15 feet surge and a greater than 80% probability of surge?

That storm may be a Cat 1 now, but the flooding looks like it could happen still with those numbers.

The surge is the problem.

WDSU is covering live.

https://www.wdsu.com/tv/WDSU-news-live-broadcasts-as-they-air/-/9855238/...

They just showed video of a flood gate being closed.

The WDSU meteorologist believes that the levees will be fine because the Mississippi River is extremely low. Therefore, she believes that the levees will have no problem handling any surge from TS Isaac.

Tue, Aug 28, 2012 - 2:18am
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Tue, Aug 28, 2012 - 2:23am
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Tue, Aug 28, 2012 - 2:40am
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Storm Surge update for NOLA

NOLA looks to be in a worse case trajectory and the storm surge is looking like they expect 10 feet.

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BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM ISAAC INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 28A
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL092012
100 AM CDT TUE AUG 28 2012

...ISAAC CONTINUES TO HEAD FOR THE NORTHERN GULF COAST...SIGNIFICANT
STORM SURGE AND FRESHWATER FLOOD THREAT EXPECTED...


SUMMARY OF 100 AM CDT...0600 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...27.4N 87.7W
ABOUT 145 MI...235 KM SE OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER
ABOUT 220 MI...355 KM SSE OF BILOXI MISSISSIPPI
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...70 MPH...110 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 310 DEGREES AT 12 MPH...19 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...978 MB...28.88 INCHES

DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK
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AT 100 AM CDT...0600 UTC...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM ISAAC WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 27.4 NORTH...LONGITUDE 87.7 WEST. ISAAC IS
MOVING TOWARD THE NORTHWEST NEAR 12 MPH...19 KM/H. THIS GENERAL
MOTION WITH SOME DECREASE IN FORWARD SPEED IS EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT DAY OR TWO. ON THE FORECAST TRACK...THE CENTER OF ISAAC WILL
MOVE OVER THE NORTH-CENTRAL GULF OF MEXICO THIS MORNING AND APPROACH
THE COAST OF SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA AND MISSISSIPPI THIS AFTERNOON
OR TONIGHT.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 70 MPH...110 KM/H...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST...AND ISAAC IS EXPECTED TO BECOME
A HURRICANE TODAY...AND CONTINUE TO STRENGTHEN UNTIL LANDFALL OCCURS
ALONG THE NORTHERN GULF COAST.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 205 MILES...335 KM
FROM THE CENTER.

THE MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE HURRICANE
HUNTER AIRCRAFT WAS 978 MB...28.88 INCHES.


HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
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STORM SURGE...THE COMBINATION OF A STORM SURGE AND THE TIDE WILL
CAUSE NORMALLY DRY AREAS NEAR THE COAST TO BE FLOODED BY RISING
WATERS. THE WATER COULD REACH THE FOLLOWING DEPTHS ABOVE GROUND IF
THE PEAK SURGE OCCURS AT THE TIME OF HIGH TIDE...

* SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA AND MISSISSIPPI...6 TO 12 FT
* ALABAMA...6 TO 9 FT
* SOUTH-CENTRAL LOUISIANA...3 TO 6 FT
* FLORIDA PANHANDLE...3 TO 6 FT
* FLORIDA WEST COAST INCLUDING APALACHEE BAY...1 TO 3 FT

THE DEEPEST WATER WILL OCCUR ALONG THE IMMEDIATE COAST IN AREAS OF
ONSHORE WINDS. SURGE-RELATED FLOODING DEPENDS ON THE RELATIVE
TIMING OF THE SURGE AND THE TIDAL CYCLE...AND CAN VARY GREATLY OVER
SHORT DISTANCES. FOR INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...PLEASE
SEE PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER SERVICE OFFICE. NEAR THE
COAST...THE SURGE WILL BE ACCOMPANIED BY LARGE AND DANGEROUS WAVES.

Tue, Aug 28, 2012 - 2:48am
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NOLA tidal chart

According to the URL I'm looking at NOLA high tide is at 6:38 PM TUES AUG 28.

That might be pretty close to when landfall occurs.

It depends on the speed.

If the storm slows but builds strength in the next 24 hours, landfall could come at 3-4 AM (low tide instead).

Tue, Aug 28, 2012 - 6:22am
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Latest forecast coordinates / wind speeds

TROPICAL STORM CENTER LOCATED NEAR 27.5N 88.1W AT 28/0900Z
POSITION ACCURATE WITHIN 20 NM

PRESENT MOVEMENT TOWARD THE NORTHWEST OR 305 DEGREES AT 10 KT

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE 977 MB
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS 60 KT WITH GUSTS TO 75 KT.
50 KT....... 60NE 60SE 50SW 50NW.
34 KT.......180NE 160SE 120SW 180NW.
12 FT SEAS..180NE 240SE 180SW 150NW.
WINDS AND SEAS VARY GREATLY IN EACH QUADRANT. RADII IN NAUTICAL
MILES ARE THE LARGEST RADII EXPECTED ANYWHERE IN THAT QUADRANT.

REPEAT...CENTER LOCATED NEAR 27.5N 88.1W AT 28/0900Z
AT 28/0600Z CENTER WAS LOCATED NEAR 27.4N 87.7W

FORECAST VALID 28/1800Z 28.5N 89.1W (Format is the same below, this one reads August 28 at 1:00 PM Central Time, Lat / Long. of eye forecast position)
MAX WIND 70 KT...GUSTS 85 KT.
64 KT... 20NE 20SE 0SW 20NW. (64 Knots wind is 75 MPH... official Hurricane strength, this speed will be experienced 20 nautical miles northeast of the eye, 20 NM southeast, 0 miles south west and 20 NM northwest.
50 KT... 60NE 60SE 50SW 50NW.
34 KT...180NE 160SE 120SW 180NW.

FORECAST VALID 29/0600Z 29.5N 90.1W...NEAR THE COAST
MAX WIND 75 KT...GUSTS 90 KT.
64 KT... 20NE 20SE 0SW 20NW.
50 KT... 60NE 60SE 50SW 50NW.
34 KT...160NE 160SE 100SW 160NW.

FORECAST VALID 29/1800Z 30.3N 90.9W...INLAND
MAX WIND 55 KT...GUSTS 65 KT.
50 KT... 30NE 60SE 50SW 30NW.
34 KT...140NE 160SE 100SW 100NW.

FORECAST VALID 30/0600Z 31.4N 91.5W...INLAND
MAX WIND 45 KT...GUSTS 55 KT.
34 KT...120NE 160SE 100SW 60NW.

FORECAST VALID 31/0600Z 34.5N 92.5W...INLAND
MAX WIND 25 KT...GUSTS 35 KT.

Looks like a fairly tight hurricane strength wind field but hurricane strength winds will diminish rapidly upon landfall.

The not so good news is it will still be a strong TS with a large wind field for at least 12 hours after landfall which would be sometime early morning tomorrow.

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Tue, Aug 28, 2012 - 8:23am
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The Oil Drum finally has

The Oil Drum finally has their open thread up on Isaac. Comments are a bit sparse. I wonder if maybe TOD doesn't have the traffic it used to have? If so, that fact alone makes me want to get back into the oil game a bit more.

https://www.theoildrum.com/node/9447

More likely, it's just because Isaac isn't really shaping up to be very serious.

This isn't a metals blog anymore. It's a right wing circle jerk, masquerading as a metals blog.
Tue, Aug 28, 2012 - 9:07am
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Today is currently quiet

Today is currently quiet where I am at in Louisiana. All except essential services are closed but the weather has not turned bad yet.

Gas stations have had generators installed since the last major hurricane (Gustav 2008) to pump gas but they caution you to have fiat currency since the credit card readers may not be working. This will be our first storm with a natural gas generator to supply our whole home and have never lost water or natural gas in the past.

Our concerns are with a few trees that are close enough to hit the house/generator and flying debris. If you buy light weight outdoor furniture in Louisiana, you better put a GPS tracking device on it.

Tue, Aug 28, 2012 - 10:38am (Reply to #135)
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Observation on the NOAA NHC advisories

In looking at the NOAA NHC Isaac page, the last update was published at 0700 CDT. It's now 0930 CDT. The storm has to have moved or changed in the last 6 hours.

If NOAA NHC acts like any other office, I have to think that the office's morning crew got in at 0700 hrs, grabbed a coffee, and is arguing about the data for the last 2 hrs of meetings.

As I was typing this message, NOAA just updated the page. Here's the 0700 CDT advisory which is listed as Advisory 29A. The NOAA NHC believes that the storm is not yet a hurricane, but the satellite photos really suggest otherwise. This thing looks like a hurricane and although the sensors on the plane may not be reading sustained winds greater than 70mph, the storm is a hurricane because it really looks like one. Calling this thing a tropical storm still is a bit ridiculous. Since the NOAA issued a supplemental statement, my guess is that there is arguing going on in the NHC regarding the definition of the storm.

One camp is probably saying to call it a hurricane and get people out of the way. The other camp is probably saying to be conservative, it's a tropical storm, and it's not intensified very much even over the open water.

My memory of other storms is that the storm's northern velocity slows and that the storm center can hang off shore for a day. Unfortunately in the case of both Katrina and this one, the storms intensify off shore. Even when the storm centers move over SE La, the bayous have so much heat and water, the storms seem to maintain strength moving over the land mass to a greater extent than over other areas like FL, GA, and MS.

Anyways, enough of armchair quarterbacking, here's a few snippets from the NOAA 0700 CDT #29A advisory.

TROPICAL STORM ISAAC INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 29A
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL092012
700 AM CDT TUE AUG 28 2012

...RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT FIND ISAAC NEARLY A HURRICANE...
SIGNIFICANT STORM SURGE AND FRESHWATER FLOOD THREAT TO THE NORTHERN
GULF COAST...


SUMMARY OF 700 AM CDT...1200 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...27.8N 88.2W
ABOUT 105 MI...170 KM SSE OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER
ABOUT 185 MI...295 KM SSE OF BILOXI MISSISSIPPI
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...70 MPH...110 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 305 DEGREES AT 7 MPH...11 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...976 MB...28.82 INCHES
_____________________________________________

DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK
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AT 700 AM CDT...1200 UTC...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM ISAAC WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 27.8 NORTH...LONGITUDE 88.2 WEST. ISAAC IS
MOVING TOWARD THE NORTHWEST NEAR 7 MPH...11 KM/H...AND THIS GENERAL
MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT DAY OR TWO WITH SOME
FLUCTUATIONS IN FORWARD SPEED. ON THE FORECAST TRACK...THE CENTER
WILL BE NEAR OR OVER THE LOUISANA COAST TONIGHT OR EARLY WEDNESDAY.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 70 MPH...110 KM/H...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST...AND ISAAC IS LIKELY TO BECOME A
HURRICANE LATER TODAY. ADDITIONAL STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST UNTIL
THE CENTER MOVES INLAND.
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HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
----------------------
STORM SURGE...THE COMBINATION OF A STORM SURGE AND THE TIDE WILL
CAUSE NORMALLY DRY AREAS NEAR THE COAST TO BE FLOODED BY RISING
WATERS. THE WATER COULD REACH THE FOLLOWING DEPTHS ABOVE GROUND IF
THE PEAK SURGE OCCURS AT THE TIME OF HIGH TIDE...

* SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA AND MISSISSIPPI...6 TO 12 FT
* ALABAMA...4 TO 8 FT
* SOUTH-CENTRAL LOUISIANA...3 TO 6 FT
* FLORIDA PANHANDLE...3 TO 6 FT
* FLORIDA WEST COAST INCLUDING APALACHEE BAY...1 TO 3 FT

Tue, Aug 28, 2012 - 11:52am
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wussicane update

it appears isaac is a wuss. nearing landfall and still short of hurricane strength.

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Tue, Aug 28, 2012 - 12:18pm
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wussicane update

center of tropical storm isaac (still not hurricane strength) appears in lower left of this doppler radar image as it approaches landfall on the mississippi river mouth. this one was seriously oversold by the hysterical media. not even much rain in the leading quadrant. definitely a wussicane.

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Tue, Aug 28, 2012 - 12:28pm
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Tropical Storm Isaac upgraded to hurricane status

"Tropical Storm Isaac upgraded to hurricane status in latest US weather bulletin"

No link yet. Just saw it appear on BBC News 24

Tue, Aug 28, 2012 - 12:34pm
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@BP Thanks.

Thanks. Did not know about the 99-year charter revocation. Of course, it's really not my place to know.

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Tue, Aug 28, 2012 - 12:36pm (Reply to #139)
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bbc upgrade

bbc must have forgotten to tell the national weather service. their noaa website:

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?5-daynl

still lists it as a tropical storm.

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