Starting Fresh

Sat, Oct 20, 2018 - 12:06pm

The updated TFMR is up and running!

As you've no doubt noticed, the revamped TFMR is a complex beast. There are all sorts of updates and added capabilities and this will make the experience for all of us here even better.

The old site was built on a Drupal platform in 2011 and a lot has changed over the years as technology has surged forward. Think of trying to use your 2011 Blackberry to access all of 2018's apps and websites. Going forward, our new site will eliminate the issues we've had with Apple products. It was also end the frustrating cycle of forced logins/logouts. It also has complete mobile capability. And a whole bunch more new stuff that I don't even know about yet.

So, thank you for your patience as we work out the bugs and get acquainted with everything. New and improved can sometimes feel frustrating and unnecessary, however, in this case, it was completely necessary and worthwhile.

As you know, I'm away from Turdfork this weekend as MrsF and I are visiting LT#1 at college. (And boy-oh-boy do I have a raging headache today from too many beers at the local Oktoberfest last evening!) I had promised everyone a podcast this morning but, frankly, I don't know yet how to post one! So, just this quick update.

In Comex gold, It was great to see price close at $1230 yesterday. That's another GREEN weekly candle and maintaining above $1200 and $1220 is very important in terms of a bullish/hopeful chart configuration. For next week, the goal remains a close above the 100-day moving average and then $1240 as this will engender even more Spec short-covering.

And as you can see on the gold CoT below, a MASSIVE move in Spec short-covering already took place back on Thursday the 11th when price surged through the 50-day and ended up $34 on the day. We'll discuss this more on Monday.

In Comex silver, that reverse H&S we've been discussing continue to trace out. On the weekly chart, getting back above and staying back above $14.50 is seemingly an important development. As expected, the move in the silver CoT wasn't nearly as dramatic as it was in gold.

Again, thank you for your patience as we get restarted and Ron and his team work out any kinks that suddenly appear. Have a great weekend and I look forward to next week.


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Oct 21, 2018 - 5:22am

Site performance is much

Site performance is much better this morning, so something has changed there (re-indexed the database?).

Suggestion: Can we add a pagination bar above the comments section? It will make it a lot easier to get to the page we want without having to scroll through a load of comments we've already read etc.

Oct 21, 2018 - 7:09am



Marchas45 TF Metals Admin
Oct 21, 2018 - 7:11am

So that means, I have to find

So that means, I have to find a post where that particular photo is, then click on that photo so that I have a link? What happened to the old easy way of just uploading a photo from a folder on your computer. Keep Stacking

P.S. Admin I do understand the link process of getting the site out there and the advantages it will have for this site so don't mind me.

Also why do we have a reply button? when we reply it doesn't show who or what we are replying to.

Oct 21, 2018 - 8:01am

Admin are we going to have a

Admin are we going to have a Date created and New Comment notification published on the Blogs?

P.S. Signature is not working or it's me.

tanderson TF Metals Admin
Oct 21, 2018 - 8:19am

I scroll down to the last

I scroll down to the last tweet that I liked then go forward from there.

cashonly Marchas45
Oct 21, 2018 - 8:23am

testing reply button

testing reply button

edit: Next to my name is the person I am replying to.

tanderson boomer sooner
Oct 21, 2018 - 8:43am

Maybe u should follow Craig

Maybe u should follow Craig on Twitter updates are quicker u get what Craig Tweets out & what is Tweeted back to him, also follow 3 other guys have the latest info as it is sent out.

Ned Braden
Oct 21, 2018 - 8:56am
Oct 21, 2018 - 9:49am



Oct 21, 2018 - 10:00am



Oct 21, 2018 - 10:11am

Test to see if unmuted

Test to see if unmuted

Marchas45 cashonly
Oct 21, 2018 - 10:20am

Thank you Cashonly, If I open

Thank you Cashonly, If I open my eyes I'll see more and if I open my ears I'll learn more. Actually it's fun learning. Keep Stacking

lnardozi TF Metals Admin
Oct 21, 2018 - 10:39am

Tracking this information on

Tracking this information on the server really is untenable. Tracking it on the client is another matter entirely. As the user scrolls past each comment, update a cookie with the comment ID. In the link for new comments, pass in the ID from the cookie. Voila!

Oct 21, 2018 - 10:41am

i miss the old site. it was

i miss the old site. it was faster too.

Oct 21, 2018 - 11:06am

Note to TF Metals Admin....

Note to TF Metals Admin.....Did you get any sleep last night?

Oct 21, 2018 - 11:18am



Oct 21, 2018 - 11:24am

Note to Admin.

Note to Admin.

I use Microsoft Edge as my browser.

Steps I take:

1. Select image.

2. Right click on it.

3. Select "copy".

4. Go to the TFMR to "Add comment".

5. Left click on it and press "Ctrl + V".

These steps worked for me before (every time)...and they're not working now.

Alternative attempt:

2. Left click on the image address....and make it 'blue'.

3. Right click on it, select "copy".

4. Go to TFMR to "Add comment".

5. left click on it and press "Ctrl + V".

That did not work either.

Oct 21, 2018 - 11:30am



Oct 21, 2018 - 11:33am



Oct 21, 2018 - 11:36am

First, MEGA congratulations

First, MEGA congratulations to the Turd Technical Team - Ron - for rolling out a new major application and converting a ton of data from the old site - Herculean effort - job well done! As with any changeover to a new platform, there are always going to be getting-acquainted-with-how-to-do-things-that-I-could-do-on-the-old-site learning curve.

Then there is the functionality that disappears which many found very useful and helpful which contributed to a great user experience. Personally the Number 1 missing feature is being able to go directly to the first post since my last site visit with one click. I do understand the tracking challenge as outlined previously, but how about considering some of these options:

A. List posts in reverse chronological order so the most recent posts are on page 1. Another site that I subscribe to had to take this approach when their recent platform transition resulted in the exact issue presented on this site.

B. Add a 'button' at the top of page 1 that enables the user to go directly to the last (oldest) post. They can then work their way back up the posts to find where they left off from their prior visit.

C. Track each user's last date/time site visit so that upon their next visit you can provide a 'button' on page 1 that takes the user to the first post made after their last date/time visit. The tricky bit here is capturing the most suitable last visit date/time - it's not when they arrived at the site but when they left. Ideally the user's last date/time site visit would be when they close the TF website browser tab (leave), but have no idea if that date/time can be captured upon that user action?

One nice-to-have is the ability to read a single post made by a user that is muted. Once in a while on the old site I would read posts of those on ignore just to see if they changed their tune or to read some of their drivel in order to respond. Having said that, without a post subject line, there would less of a need to open muted posts since I would not know what the nature of the post was. Overall, the subject line made scanning and skipping posts of no interest easier than it will be now.

One final observation, just because other sites do not have some of the features and functionality of the old TF site, does not mean those other sites are 'better' or more user friendly, it may mean that the TF Metals site is BETTER because of those unique features.

Ron, again, thank you for all the hard work that went into this transformation, and for being so incredibly responsive to the community's needs/wants/issues/desires!

lnardozi lnardozi
Oct 21, 2018 - 11:42am

In general, if you're having

In general, if you're having "can't do this" or "wouldn't scale well" problems, you can drop a line to my email (it's in my profile). I might not be conversant with your particular technology (but I see you're using bootstrap, so who knows) but I've been developing for over 30 years and performance is my specialty.

Oct 21, 2018 - 12:11pm



Oct 21, 2018 - 12:26pm

One of the issues here with

One of the issues here with comments on the new site, if I might be outspoken, is the nature of the people here who tend to think critically and out of the box.

Need I say more?

On the size, and size means everything, perspective is important. I have desk top P Cs with large monitors, laptops hooked up to large monitors, where my trading screen is the large monitors and my e mail and browsing screen is the laptop, and then I have ipad and smart phone (and I have a small smartphone as I do not want a tablet in my pocket when I go out)

So when we use there different tools we all have to keep this in mind. In addition, I recall somewhere I have a browser setting for font where I can make the font larger or smaller. Since I am older and have hit the age where I need reading glasses I increased my font size so I can see and the cost is whatever I browse uses a lot of landscape.

Other than that, I think we all have to get used to this change and then comment.

I was an early one here so i understand we are all creatures of habit.

Morris Massey put out an instructional video about "you are what you were when you were born", basically teaching us that for example we have people here in their 20's and people in their 80's. And in between. While we all share a basic philosophy here, we are different for a lot of reasons including age and life experiences.

The challenge is to accept all of us for that, remembering some of us did not see computers until we were in or 40's or beyond. And the internet until the early 1990's was minimally used for our purposes.

I used a TI-745 back in the early 1980's to "download" bank daily balance information for the company I was at so I knew how to move money around and invest excess cash. Thermal paper and the telephone headset was place into two "ears" to set up communications. I had to wait to do that since the switchboard was a switchboard with plugs and wires running all over connecting the workers to calls coming in--all manually-I bet not many here even knew that. 3 operators for a 600 person company back in the 70's. When we updated we had an, one, operator/receptionist who handled everything for a 3500 person company as we had direct dial. Messages and message retrieving. Mind blowing progress for back then.

Then came smart phones. I now ask whats so important when I see a family out for dinner and one or both parents are on smartphone checking something for more than a minute or two, other than for a top surgeon or someone "mission critical" and there are not many of those (I admit to checking kitco or quickly sometimes although at night there is nothing I can do about it)

Oct 21, 2018 - 12:52pm



Angry Chef
Oct 21, 2018 - 12:57pm
Oct 21, 2018 - 1:15pm
Oct 21, 2018 - 1:17pm

@Blythsshrink, we're doing

@Blythsshrink, we're doing lots of things for site performance. This is a new hosting environment so many things need to be tweaked yet. No database re-indexing necessary.

Sure, can probably add the pagination bar above. We'll look into that.

Oct 21, 2018 - 1:22pm

@Charlie, the whole user

@Charlie, the whole user folder system was a huge amount of server overhead, and as there are more users on the site, it is never-ending in its growth. Also I don't know of any other site with commenting these days that allows such a feature. If it's something that Craig wants it could be reintroduced, and all those files can be placed back in a location where you can access them. None of the historical files have been deleted, they are all there.

As for the reply button, sure it does. It displays who you are responding to, *and* it links to that person's post.

Oct 21, 2018 - 1:27pm

@Charlie, date created is on

@Charlie, date created is on the top of every blog page. If you are referring to it displaying on the home page or summary pages for the top posts, that is Craig's call.

The new comment notifications has now been discussed several times:

Regarding the signature, it works exactly the same as the old site. Comments on Turd's posts do not show signatures. They are displayed on forum posts.

Oct 21, 2018 - 1:31pm

@Louis, I appreciate the

@Louis, I appreciate the suggestions. We certainly have explored ideas such as this, and it also needs to be a solution that fits within the overall architecture. Ultimately it's Craig's call on how he wants to handle it.


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