CFTC Fines Banks For Precious Metal Price Manipulation

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Mon, Jan 29, 2018 - 1:59pm

Hmmm. I wonder how System Apologists like Moriarty, Christian, Hug and Weiner will try to spin this one?

In order to get this information out as quickly as possible, we'll save the price implications for later. But just today I saw this posted at Silver Doctors. I only post it here as a demonstration of typical Apologist garbage: https://www.silverdoctors.com/gold/gold-news/keith-weiner-weve-debunked-... So, given what you're about to read, will that author soon print an apology and retraction? Don't hold you breath.

Late Friday, reports hit Reuters that the CFTC would soon levy fines for "spoofing and price manipulation in the futures markets". Well, just a few minutes ago, we got the news release. You can read it all here:

  • https://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/pr7681-18
  • However, to save you some time, here's the most important section:

    What about "ENGAGED IN A SCHEME TO MANIPULATE THE PRICE OF PRECIOUS METALS FUTURES CONTRACTS" is vague or open to interpretation? Not much. However, those who have based their careers and cash flow upon the notion that the precious metal markets are sacrosanct, free and fair just got themselves a cold slap of reality.

    Will there be arrests and future charges against some of the US Banks? Meh, we'll see. Maybe. But that's a topic for another day. For now we await the response of those who have always claimed that we here at TFMR are nothing but tin foil-hatted simpletons who rely upon conspiracy theories to explain away things we're too stupid and unsophisticated to understand.

    TF

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      82 Comments


    Jan 29, 2018 - 2:05pm
    yukon123
    Jan 29, 2018 - 2:08pm

    zero h article

    Goldman Sacs/JP Morgan:"If anyone is going to rig these markets, it's going to be us! The nerve of these guys!"

    ArtL
    Jan 29, 2018 - 2:16pm

    The CFTC seems impotent

    their targets have spit in the CFTC's Face today as seen in the price of PM's


    Jan 29, 2018 - 2:19pm

    let's roll

    brolgaboy
    Jan 29, 2018 - 2:19pm

    bastards!

    let's all send Andrew Clingon a nasty email!

    Ben Stackin
    Jan 29, 2018 - 2:24pm

    Great coverage of this story Turd

    thanks.... was focused on the McCabe situation. You cut to the heart of the matter. Serial offenders, all of them. Fines need to be more significant to earnings than in the past.

    Marchas45
    Jan 29, 2018 - 2:33pm

    I Just Had To Log On

    and comment on this post. Screw the fines, throw their efen asses in jail. Hopefully now I won't have enough fiat to Keep Stacking as the price of the PM's will be to high but until then. Keep Stacking

    brolgaboy
    Jan 29, 2018 - 2:39pm
    chocolatechiphorses
    Jan 29, 2018 - 2:41pm

    Another Fire in Malibu CA.

    FIRE DANGER: A fire broke out early this morning near Malibu, California. Evacuation orders have already been lifted. A high fire danger remains in effect in parts of southern California and the southwest

    lakedweller2
    Jan 29, 2018 - 2:43pm

    Criminals

    Need jail for each individual, supervisors, Central Bankers and politicians.

    brolgaboy
    Jan 29, 2018 - 2:43pm

    CNBS

    did yall notice that they can't stop talking about these foreign banks illegal

    activity at the COMEX. ahhh riiiiiigggghhhhttt

    bently
    Jan 29, 2018 - 2:45pm

    Engaged in a scheme to manipulate PMs...

    ...by trading in a manner to trigger customer stop-loss orders.

    True. Also may be one of the greatest understatements in the history of financial reporting.

    yukon123
    Jan 29, 2018 - 2:45pm

    Turd when is the A2A with him? He has seem very prescient

    from @lukegromen:

    IMO the value in this story is less "I told you so" & more "They only seem prosecute spoofing in markets they want to go up (for example, see May-10 'flash crash'"). Has something changed in policymakers' view of gold?

    Clarki Stomias
    Jan 29, 2018 - 2:45pm

    Enough of the fines

    We need to see jail time and to see this government sanctioned manipulation stop. At least now we have an arrow in the quiver. This is just the beginning. Now there is legal precedent.

    Maestro
    Jan 29, 2018 - 2:46pm

    Class Action Suit

    Where do we sign up?!

    Owtovit
    Jan 29, 2018 - 2:50pm

    Same old same old

    FFS!

    Hang the bastards......superiors, not just the low hanging fruit

    Edit: Keep the faith, WE will be proven right in the long run, it’s a marathon not a short sprint

    lakedweller2
    Jan 29, 2018 - 3:00pm

    Class Action Suit

    Should be a lot generated. Criminal only way to stop them.

    Chancey
    Jan 29, 2018 - 3:20pm

    Fines??

    "HSBC will pay a civil monetary penalty of $1.6 million"

    Hah! You have got to be kidding??

    That is like getting a parking ticket fine for 1 cent. It's essentially consent to park in the same illegal parking space again!


    Jan 29, 2018 - 3:21pm

    first update


    Jan 29, 2018 - 3:29pm

    more

    It's as if they all emailed each other and discussed which diversionary tactic to employ.

    Here's a comment at Goldseek from a troll who regularly comments on almost every post of ours published there:

    Owtovit
    Jan 29, 2018 - 3:45pm

    @ turd

    as you can see I have not been here much lately so if possible can you fill me in about Koos Jansen, I thought he was one of the “good guys!”

    any clues as to what “turned” him to the dark side?

    PS: loved your A2A with Cliff High

    AGXIIK
    Jan 29, 2018 - 3:46pm

    Satisfaction comes when the corridors of Wall Street

    are lined with gallows.

    From every one hangs a bankster.

    Thousands; tens of thousands of gallows; all filled with banksters swinging in the wind.


    Jan 29, 2018 - 3:49pm

    Spoofing?

    Is that ALL they are doing? Fake orders that do not get filled? No... I smell a weasel. They charge these "sacrificial scapegoats," rogue traders, for their personal sin of "spoofing," or "cheating," but let the institutions off the hook for exceeding position limits, distorting markets, for making billions in trades that cap price and maintaining price suppression.

    I am not satisfied!

    But at least the apologists have NO ground to stand on in their denials. Perhaps they'll shut up now.

    SilverDudeMan
    Jan 29, 2018 - 3:51pm

    Craig, in your War of Words with them....

    Make sure to bring up: Illegal Position Limits, Directional Positions of Commercials (e.g. unhedged), and Monopolistic holdings. This is WAY more than just "spoofing". WTF !!!

    Spoofing is just what gets the landslide going (and it's always a landslide - gravity goes down, never to the upside), but who has the most to gain? Those that hold monopolistic, illegal positions on the short side !!!

    They never have to spoof on the going up part of the cycle.

    Owtovit AGXIIK
    Jan 29, 2018 - 3:53pm
    sam020
    Jan 29, 2018 - 3:58pm

    why now?

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-29/these-are-6-traders-who-were-j...

    Why now are they arresting these traders when this shit has been going on since the 80s....

    sam020
    Jan 29, 2018 - 4:00pm

    ponzi scheme

    Madoff Says Entire U.S. Government a `Ponzi Scheme'
    Blackwatersailor
    Jan 29, 2018 - 4:02pm

    Liability

    Does this action open up the banks to litigation from all holders of gold and silver for losses incurred? Can they be charged under RECO?

    sam020
    Jan 29, 2018 - 4:05pm

    as per Peter Schiff

    Peter Schiff: Bernard Madoff Should Be Appointed......

    Jan 29, 2018 - 4:05pm

    One more for good measure

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