Guest Post: "Why bees have it figured out and we don't", by AGXIIK

Mon, Jan 15, 2018 - 2:01pm

TFMR regular, AGXIIK, offers this interesting piece for your holiday reading.

"Why bees have it figured out and we don't", by AGXIIK

The Three-Body problem essay goes quite a ways into why we humans are not good at recognizing solar and global minimums. We could prepare years in advance given the knowledge available from 6,000 years of recorded history but we don't. Every solar minimum results in human chaos and the collapse of empires and yet we don't see it coming until it's too late.

Instead, we listen to the witch doctors and shamans who say that weather is human-caused and not something else. If it was caused by something else, something outside of our control, like the solar cycles, they couldn't make billions off inaccurate predictions while maintaining near absolute power and control of the meteorological priesthood caste; those charged with the responsibility of predicting weather which, in reality, holds the power over life and death.

Some of us remember the mantra of the 1970s. Global Cooling.

From a sale standpoint, that was a non-starter. A marketing group was hired after the moneyed classes funding Global Cooling LLC heard the prediction that 2 mile high glaciers were going to flatten Manhattan. That didn't go over so well even if it was a tad more accurate in the long pull. Still, the solar minimum was quite predictable 40 years ago. Now it's upon us. Many focus groups later someone came up with the idea that Global Warming, now called Climate Change, would sell better.

They rebranded their product, complete with hockey stick graphs, appropriate musings from the climatologist Amen corner and top politicians replete with Nobel Prizes and Academy Awards and suggested that we forget everything that we heard in the past. This was the New New and, by God, these people were going to be right even if it killed us.

Most people only start listening to these gurus when the weather gets really bad. To the Weather Channel marketing crew, "If it bleeds it leads" so they go into hysterical overdrive about the latest winter hurricane 3 days late. The listeners completely fail to prepare for sub zero temperatures or hurricanes and end up in harm's way, dragging others to rescue them when their mediocre plans fail because they listened to the news hawks who are either wrong or late.

Climate change cannot be allowed to let us see the reality of year over year sub zero temperatures at a time when the ice caps are melting, the seas are rising, and polar bears are homeless, or so they say. Global warming is just around the corner and besides which, in the world of Double Speak, it totally explains sub freezing temperatures.

Bees have climate change figured out, as the author tells in his article. Later in the article the author note that we see no bees in the Game of Thrones. Dragons? Yes, 3 of them. But no bees. Maybe it was a script oversight.

A apiarist knows his bees are smart enough to prepare for winter months in advance. But what if all the preparation didn't prepare for winter coming 2 months early, 5 degrees below expected temperatures and lasting 4 years. What becomes of the bees which are responsible for 90% of the fruit and vegetable pollination cycle?

They die. We die.

Some on the TFMR boards have taken up the banner, talking about the solar cycle and how it'll affect us within a year or two. The information coming out about the solar minimum might not be common knowledge now but most of us here are well ahead of the curve on that subject. Anyone living above a certain latitude should be preparing now for the real possibility that extreme low temperatures are almost certain to come their way and stay.

About 3 years ago Montana Mel, a TFMR subscriber, first introduced me to the Maunder Minimum, a devastating solar-caused cold snap that left its indelible impression on all of Northern Europe and most of America, rewriting history as populations of both regions struggled to survive. I mislabeled all solar cycles as the Maunder Minimum. It has a catchy ring to it. But it's correctly called a solar minimum

Most of our conversations now include new notations about the coming solar minimum. Martin Armstrong's been discussing this about every 5th article. Say what you want about MA, I think he's got this one wired and he's not without company.

Even more telling, since most people get their information and entertainment from cable, MSM and videos, if you've been watching Game of Thrones you know that winter arrived at the end of season 7.

Maybe GOTs is little more than a well crafted adaptation of a novel; a written and acted series.

Or maybe it's the way the script writers are trying to tell us.

Winter is coming.

And we, like John Snow, know nothing.

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Jan 15, 2018 - 2:11pm

Could I BEE


gold slut
Jan 15, 2018 - 2:14pm



Inardozi, you must have been a gunslinger in a previous life...

Jan 15, 2018 - 2:20pm

I'm reluctant to update too

I'm reluctant to update too many charts at this point due to the American market holiday today. However, I will give you this...

And note the general, long-term trend in CDG. It hit $1310 twice last year before blasting through. Something near $1360 may pose the same resistance soon.

Jan 15, 2018 - 2:23pm

But seriously folks

I've known about sunspot cycles, global minimums, "The Year Without a Summer", Maunder minimum, etc since childhood - those books were readily available at every library. I'm even completely on board with the idea of "climate change" since we have self-evidently been experiencing shifts in climate since the early Devonian, when our atmosphere changed to permit our type of life. That never (and still doesn't) bother me.

No, the utterly sick kind of craziness that bothers me is that these same climate shouters are irrevocably opposed to doing something to fix the problem, like geoengineering our surface albedo to compensate for excess carbon. Oh no, they say it all has to be done by using taxes as a club upon the enterprising and as a reward to the politically connected.

Believe me, let a billion consumers die and they'll come up with a cost efficient solution because there's already an efficient solution - it just needs a billion consumers to die so they can sell it to us.

4 oz
Jan 15, 2018 - 3:51pm


Nice work AG

Jan 15, 2018 - 4:49pm

Completely Agree AGXIIK

Great article. The idea of a carbon tax to offset climate change is just a tax grab.

Jan 15, 2018 - 5:09pm

Effort to identify Baie Verte area as a mining centre underway

Cory Hurley Published: 8 hours ago

Mining operations such as this one by Anaconda Mining have been a staple of Baie Verte’s economy for years. Photo courtesy of David Howells via Anaconda Mining

Cramm leading the charge to promote region’s rich mining heritage

BAIE VERTE, NL — Allan Cramm has always had a vision of what could be accomplished on his hometown Baie Verte Peninsula, so it is no surprise he wants others to share his goal.

The vice-president of innovation and development with Anaconda Mining has arguably been one of the biggest supporters of Baie Verte and the surrounding area for decades.
Through the fluctuations of the mining industry and correlating with the ups and downs of the region, Cramm has remained steadfast in his belief there is a strong future for both.

“Growing up in Baie Verte, I have an attachment to the town,” he said. “As part of Anaconda, we want to retain every person we have here, and we want to attract the best people available.
“To do that, you have to have a place suitable for people to live and raise a family.”

Cramm recently met with Baie Verte council and staff to present his perspective on a town image, branding and ownership.
He says the town needs a theme, and suggests it should be mining.

“(The meeting) was to … share the opportunities I see going forward — things we are working on, and also our desire to ensure the town continues to grow and become a great place for people to live,” he said.

Allan Cramm, vice-president of innovation and development with Anaconda Mining, is hoping the Baie Verte area will become known as a mining centre.

Areas around the province have become internationally known for such things as their industry, landscape or history. The Baie Verte Peninsula is as rich in mining history as its natural geological formations and variations are in mineral resources.
Many aspects of the region’s history are largely unknown, even among people living there.
Historic mining shafts are located throughout the peninsula — including what is perhaps the oldest in the province in Fleur de Lys — as well as long-forgotten mining operations.

“We have had a strong attachment to mining for many years, and I think we need to capitalize on that,” Cramm said.

The former Advocate Mines was a big town supporter, investing in infrastructure that is now aging and in need of upgrade or replacement. Cramm says everybody needs to work together now to preserve the town.

“We can be the best company in the world, or Rambler can be the best company in the world, but if there’s not a desire for people to live in Baie Verte, for whatever reason, then they are not going to come,” he said.

While Anaconda is not within the municipal boundary of Baie Verte, the company — along with other major industry players Rambler Metals and Mining and Guy J. Bailey Ltd. — has supported the town to improve and expand regional efforts such as recreational and sporting infrastructure.

A significant educational component of the industry also remains relatively untapped. Cramm says a lot of leading-edge research is ongoing within the area’s industry in collaboration with universities, colleges and international students.
He hopes this work will lead to those future professionals wanting to live in the area one day.

“If you want to research Antarctica, you are not going to live in the Bahamas,” he said. “If you are researching mining, you want to be in the mine.”

Gold mining has been an important industry in the Baie Verte region in recent decades. Photo courtesy of David Howells via Anaconda Mining

There is a young workforce on the Baie Verte Peninsula. Cramm says he stresses to them there is no limit to what could happen throughout the region. The town once had a ski hill — a vision of some locals at the time — and he says there is no reason such ideas should be deterred now.

“If people want a squash court or a golf course or they want a racquet ball court, you can do that,” he said. “I constantly try to encourage the younger people within our group here to help and volunteer to make the town the kind of town they want.”

The meeting was the first of what Cramm and town representatives hope will be many on the subject. There appears to be a desire to form a committee to help foster the concept of identifying the town and region as a mining hub.

“It’s an effort to bring the community and business group together,” he said.

Town reaction

Baie Verte Mayor Brandon Philpott said the town is 100 per cent behind the idea.
The key is to promote the history of the industry, perhaps starting with its own people, he said.

“Allan has the vastest amount of knowledge of this peninsula and the mine shafts that are here of anybody I know,” he said.

“It is great to have somebody like that onboard to push such an idea.”

A view of Baie Verte from across the bay at the Anaconda Mining operation. Photo courtesy of David Howells via Anaconda Mining

The mayor said a committee to spearhead such a venture is a priority. The town would in turn support initiatives such as beautifying areas of historical significance and working with other towns throughout the peninsula to do the same.

It is not just promoting the history of the industry, according to Philpott – it is ensuring that existing or future companies have what they need to reach their greatest potential in the region.

“They’re the biggest industry that we have here,” he said. “It is something we really hope continues to grow.
“Right now, it is what is attracting people here. We have a lot of younger people in this area due to working at the mines, supporting the mines or a spinoff from the mines.”

Identifying Baie Verte and area as a mining centre would be a significant boost for the tourism industry, says the mayor.

“It’s just a part of living here,” he said. “It is why Baie Verte is where it is.”

Jan 15, 2018 - 5:16pm

Thank you AGXIIK,

For once again your singularly original and valuable contribution to Turdville and humanity.

Your 21 new CCW activists are welcome to this world. And many more are needed. If one has considered such, I highly recommend contacting your local gun range for referrals.

I am now digesting "Dark Winter" by John L. Casey. "How the Sun Is Causing a 30-Year Cold Spell. Copyright 2014. Some suggest more current, validating statistics are available.

Wishing a very happy MLK day to all. He was truly a Saint, executed by our Deep State and Shadow Government which are in our sights.

Keep Stacking, and consider a dabble into Cryptos. I thank those in Turdville who suggested their relevancy in 2016.

Jan 15, 2018 - 7:14pm

Democratic Candidate For Illinois Attorney General Mugged

Democratic Candidate For Illinois Attorney General Mugged At Gunpoint During Chicago Photo Shoot

A Democrat running for Illinois attorney general was robbed at gunpoint Thursday afternoon during a promotional photo shoot for his campaign.

Aaron Goldstein, 42, and four men associated with the photo shoot were approached by three suspects between 20 and 24 years old in broad daylight, when one of them produced a gun. The men robbed Goldstein and the others of camera equipment and their cellular phones before running off, said law enforcement.

Police did not release a detailed description of the suspects for some undisclosed reason.

DOOGIE Markedtofuture
Jan 15, 2018 - 7:24pm

markedtofuture/ANX Anaconda Mining

Nice article on Anaconda thanks for the informative post

this company is a screaming buy doubled in last few weeks still very under valued IMHO PEA coming out soon should be awesome KD

Jan 15, 2018 - 8:12pm

A welcome article

I appreciate your thoughtful and creative writing, AGXIIK. You are a treasure at this site.

Jan 15, 2018 - 8:22pm
Jan 15, 2018 - 8:32pm

Hey that's Aegon Sand to you...

Tapping the Mother of Dragons and not knowing it's his Auntie...

A twist to Oedipus Rex?

He doesn't know his parents, that he's Dornish, a Targaryen or even his real name....

Aegon Sand you know nothing!

Doesn't quite have the same ring to it though....right?

Great job AGXIIK!

Jan 15, 2018 - 9:48pm

Ah yes, the Danys/John Snow 3 body problem

I found it very funny when watching Samual Tarley, last of his name, connecting the dots while Snow and Danys played hide the salami. Before, in another scene, one of the knights was talking about the 'queen'

Which one? The one with dragons or the one who effs her brother? And now we have aunty Dany doinking her nephew. Ok, we know royals are always schtupting their cousins. Now the question will have to include 'The one banging her nephew' It's all about connecting the dots and the 3 body problem

After my annual physical today I had to do a mental and emotional gear shift for an entirely different reason; part good news and part 'bad' news. Then this article popped up, reminding me of things unrelated to my mortality but very real to my/our longevity.

The three body problem I referenced was a pretty amazing article by W. Ben Hunt PhD from It's as erudite an essay that I've read in a while, fitting more for one of out TFMR savants to dissect and put into a layman's formatted level of understanding.

In this article Hunt brings the 3 body problem into perspective in investing and how that third body, the unseen hand of the central banks coupled with investing ignorance are creating an almost unfathomable dilemma to finding good places to invest while not seeing that 'third body' gravity well skew your plans for a life spanning return on capital into a cocked hat.

BTC, cryptos and Central Bank/ ESF and other elements of the market pumperatti classes are simultaneously producing returns unprecedented in all of history. It takes a bank of super computers to get even a remote handle on these incongruities.

A quick snapshot of these elements, when viewed through a man or woman's longevity factors, forces a very serious look at the good news. In my case, at 65 years of age, diagnosed by very knowledgeable doctor who said 'Looking at the results of your physical, you could see 90', he didn't notice my flinch at that news.

10 years ago I was clueless about solar cycles; clueless about the manipulation of markets; clueless about the near term financial destruction of the social security and medicare systems which my wife and I now enjoy. In other words I thought the world would go on just like at always had. If I pressed my shoulder to the wheel and worked hard at my business we would always be ok.

Faced with the real potential of living another 25 years, and with all the things that most of us took for granted, and that's leaving aside unknown unknowns problem, I'm now forced to look at something that resembles a 7 body problem with its attendant cousins, aunts, brothers and sisters who want to be heard from.

The 'bad' news about the next 25 years is I, or better put, we have to up our game and move past the unpleasant realities of might what happen. It's not gloom and doom by any means. It's simply the reality that this calm before the storm, the lull in the action here in home town USA, is a gift of time that we can spend in charting new paths and plans for the long pull.

My wife and I just finished discussing this subject, along with a long conversation with her sister about the same matter. We're all heavy stackers and have factored our precious metals holdings into the long term scheme of things. We all planned that PMs were the ultimate solution to our possibly longevity versus a financial base.

Our conversation was only the most cursory glance at the problem of outliving one's money or dealing with weather related issues for that matter. TFMR gives us a great platform for continuing of all forms of dialogue. It's more than just a little important that we pool our mental and intellectual resources to solving these 3 body problems.

One last thing hit my screen before posting this.

Mel sent me an email about the increase in domestic rig counts, now tipping past 1000 and moving up. That count is up around 100% from the last oil price crash. I shared that with Steve StAngelo. He reminded me that the oil short contracts are now 678,000, up from just a week ago and 150,000 contracts higher than when oil was smashed to $30 a barrel from $105.

Someone hates the energy we will need in the coming winter. By smashing the price back down through market rigging, it's entirely possible to see $30 oil again. And all those rigs working to pull the oil out will be bankrupted a second time.

The petroleum industry is running on fumes both from a cash flow and profitable production basis. We will need that black goo more than ever. If there was a plan afoot to curtail access to cheap oil by damaging the oil business, it's coming down the road. That augers badly for the world. No wonder China and Russia are working overtime to construct the yuan/ruble/gold/oil platform.

Winter is coming and we know nothing about oil availability.

Just my two cents worth. The other good news is that if Craig keeps this site up and running for the next 25 years you're never going to hear the end of me

Jan 15, 2018 - 10:14pm

does the cold winter hit all of the US? For

some reason, I was thinking it hit like the top half of the US land mass...

appreciate your writings

NZSilverSurfer Markedtofuture
Jan 15, 2018 - 10:53pm

ANX - Markedtofuture

Thank you for forwarding this good article which has been covered on TFM over the last few months.

Angry Chef
Jan 15, 2018 - 11:19pm

Nine banks accused of rigging key Canada lending rate

Couldn't get the FT link to work. Here's is the GATA link... the land of maple syrup and Prime Ministers handing out hand jobs at the Gay Pride Parade what do we find....Banksters.....You know why we call 'em Banksters eh ? wouldn't work ?

Nick Elway
Jan 15, 2018 - 11:30pm

Stolen Turd Interview Jim Willie

If you do a youtube search on

Special Discuss (Jan 13, 2018) with JIM WILLIE - TOP TRENDS 2018, Gold, Dollar, Bitcoin

after a few minutes of something else, it is a stolen Turd/Jim Willie talk..likely from

Jan 15, 2018 - 11:44pm

Winter is coming

I would not be surprised if it was this year when things kick off. Maybe next. A town in Siberia recorded a near record low of minus 62 degrees Celcius / minus 80 Fahrenheit (before the thermometer broke, so it might be lower).

The global warmists have everybody looking in the wrong direction. Because of this, the solar minimum could kill millions through famine. But to some climate activists, this is an upside. They think there are too many people.

Watch the Spring beacuse this will tell us if it has set in or not. If it is bad, then stock up immediately because there will likely be bad harvests and food shortages. If it is moderate then we still have more time. I would expect at least 3-4 bad years once we hit bottom of the solar cycle so plan your food storage accordingly.

If you have land you might want to try growing food under glass or in a plastic tunnel to ensure you have some fresh stuff in your diet. I'm in a city in the tropics but with a bit of a fragile supply chain so I rent space on the roof of a multi-story industrial tower and grow some food there.

You should also think about how this could disrupt the economy (who knows how it could play out) so make sure you have some physical stacked - Ag and Au. I'm sure most of you have (because we're here) but for those of you who only play with paper, now is the time to acquire the real metals.

For countries where it is legal, invest in lead (in its kinetic form).

For other countries, I suggest a tactical flashlight with an oscillating strobe (I have a Fenix TK 16 and it works very effectively to disorientate an aggressor). Buy one that takes swappable rechargeable batteries - not one that requires USB to charge. Think about how you will recharge the batteries if there is no grid power (I have a solar recharger).

Jan 16, 2018 - 8:16am

You just can NOT...

....Beat this place, the info is consistently off the charts...truth tastes good

J Siefert
Jan 16, 2018 - 8:32am

Winter here in the Basel Region...

...has been fairly normal so far. If anything, a bit milder than normal. To date we've had about only two days with snow lying on the ground ... maybe 1 or 2 cm. Normal here is to have a snowfall of say 10 cm which melts a bit and then re-frezes and stays that way for about a week. We've has one humdinger of a storm that brought down all those trees that were weak or rotting at the base.
Like many people here I prefer to let the Alps get all the snow which they have had in abundance this winter.

Jan 16, 2018 - 11:03am

AGX-Great article about the very near future

People can show me as many financial charts as you want, we really do not know where they will be in 3-5 years.

When it comes to cycles, especially the next several years, that is a greater chance of bearing fruit.

The next several years have many bad cycles coming to a peak.

Cooling cycle
War cycle
Food crisis cycle

Earthquake cycle

Even though they are all related, that is a lot of bad ju ju.

I hate to be negative because I am very a positive person but people have to face the facts.

Erik Hadik has a 40 year cycle website with lots of interest, and it's free.

I tell people about the coming cool down with the lack of sun spots and they look even more dumb founded than talking gold and silver.


Jan 16, 2018 - 11:52am

The Three-Body Problem - Dr. Ben Hunt

Those of you who enjoyed AGXIIK's essay above may really enjoy Ben Hunt's masterful original take on the topic:

The Three-Body Problem

Jan 16, 2018 - 1:03pm

Clif High

Just listened to a very recent Clif interview and he said that an ice age is coming. His data indicates it will start in the Appalachian Mountains and the ice will flow down from them.

Seems like an interesting process, you basically have a year with heavy snow/grapple that simple does not melt during the summer. After that, the ice sheet just grows and grows. I think he said it start very soon/now and reachs a peak in 50 or 60 years. But, with Clif his timing is sometimes way off as are his forecasts.

Jan 16, 2018 - 1:57pm
Jan 16, 2018 - 2:27pm

very interesting

As a beekeeper AND a GoT fan I have to say what's written here and in the original Three Body problem is very, very interesting as well as recognizable.

The bee instinct to prepare for winter starting June 22 is known, and actually exploited by beekeepers; just get your bee colonies big before the solstice and locate your colony close to a top food source. Queen notices excess food coming in and starts laying more eggs. Harvest lots of honey in the following 2 weeks. After 4 more weeks, rinse and repeat as the beautiful rule of 40 dictates that 40 days after an egg is produced by the queen, the bee is ready to fly out and gather pollen and nectar.

The insight that this is algorithmic driven and can be wiped out is mind-boggling and will take me quite some pondering before I will grasp the concept enough to determine what to do next. Thanks a lot, this is why I'm a member of TFMR :)

WingsofGold CaptainDanite
Jan 16, 2018 - 3:36pm

Epsilon Theory

Thanks for posting that CaptainDanite. Read another article found on that site.

enjoyed the two articles so much, I subscribed.

Jan 16, 2018 - 4:15pm

Zero Hedge...

"Investors stunned as stocks suffer biggest reversal in 10 months, cryptos crash."

Left out...but gold gains. The tortoise is beginning to close the gap. Sorry, Harry D!

Jan 16, 2018 - 10:46pm

How bad is BAD...

I, also, read a bunch on this Grand Minimum cycle... Dark Winter by Casey was my starting point - then, I chased down some of his hard reference books that he listed...some were long out of print and hard to dig out...

AG is a friend of mine. He does the heavy lifting while I just fill-in the blanks, eh?...

FWIW: my own view on this GM issue/cycle and what can we expect is as follows, part is research, part is applying what I read about the 1650 event mostly in the EU area. And, part of this is mixing in my own views on weather/climate learned as a pilot - always watching the weather. The basis of these observations is: At what latitude would I expect being able to "raise a garden for food".....

In that "old book" I use to have, about the EU during the last minimum... It varied from year to year...some. Climate is fickle and subject to so many factors...there is no "hard and fast" answer UNTIL you get close "enough" to the EQUATOR where variables no longer rule the day/month or season... For the EU area...into Asia... 40 deg N Lat describes the "lower edge" of the affected areas...with some north-south migration from year to year during the deepest part of the period of minimum...thinking here is 5 deg plus/minus of this 40 deg line OR LOWER gives you a fighting the EU area... 40 deg just about cuts the Med Sea mid point.

Here in NA... "Anyplace north of 50 deg is toast...forget getting any grain from Canada, etc...Edmonton is going to have a real rough time - ie: perhaps evac will be called for up there and above...which kicks AK under the bus too. The 40deg N Lat line describes our "northern tier states"...including ME...this is going to be a "tough" go, vs the "rough" go further north...micro climates "may" develop within this 10 deg band, according to "ocean" influences vs "continental" influences...and, those pesky higher/longer Mtn ranges...etc. You are currently at about 38/39 deg N. BUT, you are in the "east face shadow" of those Mtn to your west... you might get TOO MUCH rain and not enough sun to plant there...say 60-75% of the time, during the deep part of the minimum...There is NOT going to be much, if any, "taper in and taper out'.... It will be more of a mix-mash...some nice with some bad and no real seasonal difference to allow planting and growing....Remember the "year without summer" back east was NOT a "peak cool/cold era" per just kind of "flipped and happened"....ouch. All bets are off if we get a major volcano wide ash cloud, etc... I feel that 35 deg N is going to be the "northern edge" of any SEMI-DEpENDIBLE growing area during the central part of the minimum...That is AZ/NM/TX/LA/MI/AL/GA/and FL... Don't forget, 1/2 of Canada will be moving in with us during these years too...more mouths to feed... No body said you have to like it....just DO IT... sorry to be so hard, but this is how I see this... Being in our 70's++, I doubt we will last this one. The fight to keep oil/gas production flowing from the north side of the line is going to be a national security include ANWR. Then, slip part of CA into the drink and you can see why I didn't mention CA in my list above for 35 deg areas...I think it'll be a mess, or missing.

Holding onto some "seed stock" could be a very big there will be many "false springs" or similar...where balmy weather FLIPS to a driving snow storm, or 4 to 10" rainfalls...which tries to change over to freezing rain...not you "nice day" at all... Such events were noted in the Europe book.

Stocking some building supplies for a greenhouse might be "pure Au" could a wind turbine to help out those covered PV panels when you need to fire up the ham radio for some intel, eh?... Remember, a dry gun won't freeze at any temp... I saw -88.2 f deg noted today over in Russia...Wait until Ft St John in N. BC reports temps like Scott Base...Burrr.

I personally have seen -72 f. on the North Slope of AK in 1974 - trying to start a Volpar to get out of there!...

I am seeing "center of bottom of this cycle" estimated as 2020/2024 AND 2032..YMMV. The later one, 2032 was confirmed by the Russians for Casey - before he disapeared!

Check-6 Mel


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