Doldrums and Summer lows? Pining sez No!

With analysts at most public PM websites now turning decidedly bearish, with the summer doldrums staring us in the face, with the new rate hike raising interest rates (on paper making gold less desirable as it provides no yield), and with the gold seasonals suggesting that “sell in May and go away” was the play, there is a definite bearish tilt to the sector right now.  That’s why (among other things) we have a great risk-reward setup staring us in the face. 

Pining thinks it’s a great place to go long (with stops)!  Let me give you a few reasons why, then I'll outline the trade:

Sentiment:

A quick review of 7 popular and publicly available precious metals analytics/trading sites, and a glance through the comments on those sites, made clear to me that there is (at least roughly) a general consensus in the metals complex right now: after failing to break through 1300, and first pushing through then falling back below the long-term downtrend line in gold, the summer doldrums are upon us and consensus sentiment has turned bearish.  The two most likely scenarios I saw discussed were either (1) we languish and churn lower for the next few months following typical gold seasonals pattern into a July or August low, or we cascade from here into an earlier low, perhaps late June or early July. 

I like this widespread bearishness very much.  This is precisely the type of setup the metals love; wrong-foot the investing public, going against well-known patterns (because it’s never that easy in the metals) and making sure the majority of retail is not on the train and has to chase price. That’s also why the so-so COT doesn’t bother me much, that pattern has been a bit TOO clear recently and has been becoming a little too easy to trade, so I think it’s due for a wrong-foot.  In fact it is this “juking the crowd” and subsequent chasing of price on the way up that provides the fuel for the best runs in the metals.  This is an excellent setup from a sentiment standpoint.  Just ask yourself, when was the last time the majority of retail sentiment was dead-on correct and on the right side of the trade in the metals?  Thought so. 

GDJX rebalancing is behind us

Regardless of where you stood on the whole GDXJ/JNUG issue, the fact remains that it is now largely in the rearview-mirror.  This means a genuine, significant source of instability in the sector is now largely behind us, removing some of the unpredictability which had been a drag on both price and sentiment.  Additionally, it is likely that money managers who may have previously been hesitant to allocate funds until this nonsense was sorted may now be prepared to put that money back to work, thus bringing an unexpected tailwind that could help things to the upside.  If instability was a negative, then stability should be a positive.  Bullish! 

Crossing over of the 50,100, and 200 DMA on the Gold Daily chart:

Don’t look now, but for all the wailing and gnashing of teeth, gold is about to see the 50 DMA above the 100 DMA above the 200 DMA.  This golden cross setup is seemingly timed to catch people off-guard given the poor sentiment we see now, yet will trigger buy signals for technical traders and algos.  With about 60% of stock “market” volume now quants, this is not immaterial.  With a massive turnover in shares last week, especially the huge volume on Fed day last Wednesday (see black arrow on chart, look at that volume level) and follow-up churning, there has been a significant rinse in the complex. Lots of longs have been spooked out of their positions, and some shorts have covered profitably.  This actually looks good to me, with Quad witching just passed on Friday, and particularly the Thursday and Friday follow-on action- no waterfalls, just tons of repositioning. 

The tinfoil hat wildcard, but worth a mention: Is the Fed schizophrenic or working a plan?

Traditional analysis says that when the Fed raises rates, gold craters.  Yet during this recent cycle, when the Fed raised rates Gold took off.  And guess what? The Fed just raised rates.  Short version-  Bullish! 

Long version:  I actually think there is a reason for this counter-intuitive recent action in gold when the Fed has raised.  Traditionally, why did the Fed raise rates, and when did they do it?  They raised when the economy was getting hot and genuine fears of inflation were taking hold, and they did so to cool-off inflation and that hot economy by sucking liquidity into bonds through higher yield.  So with better options (yield) available, gold (which produces no yield and is an inflation hedge) went down.  But recently, the Fed has raised with (1) no real signs of inflation, and (2) and a genuinely poor economic picture.  So gold didn’t do what it usually does, and in fact one could argue that gold was simply performing another of its traditional roles- that of the Safe Haven in times of uncertainty- since raising rates into a poor economy is quite possibly a recipe for a stock market crash (given that the market is in a highly overvalued position historically).  In this context, gold rising (insurance) when the Fed (stupidly) raised rates actually makes perfect sense.

Tinfoil Hat version: Has the Fed decided to become as part of “le Resistance” like so much of the Washington establishment has, and is this the sign?  Before you dismiss me as a nutter, answer this simple question: After 8 years of keeping what was initially billed as “extraordinary measures that are historically unprecedented and temporary” in place for nearly a decade now, why has the supposedly ‘data-dependent’ Federal Reserve suddenly just hiked rates AGAIN at a time when economic data just missed so badly? Again? And yes, the previous sentence showed how what the Fed once described as temporary is now permanent, what was once extraordinary is now standard, and how "data dependent" means ignoring the data no matter how bad it is.  This is sheer Schizophrenia. Or, you know, Central Banking.

The most recent miss inspiring our data-driven Fedsters to hike more was so big it was the worst miss in six years!  In fact, the last time economic data disappointed by this great a margin the situation was considered dire to such a degree that Bernanke unleashed “operation twist”… back in August of 2011. So how is this rate hike in any way logical for a “data-dependent” Fed, absent the deliberate intent to muck things up?

If the Fed were truly making policy as economic data dictates, they wouldn’t be doing this.  So why keep hiking rates into a dumpster-fire of an economy when they know could easily lead to a major stock market correction, crash, and/or recession at some point (maybe soon)?  Occam’s razor suggests: because they’ve decided that’s what they want!  If you do A, knowing it will probably cause B, that strongly suggests you desire B as an outcome.  Simple. Call me crazy all you want, but that explanation seems quite consistent with the tone and behavior I’ve seen coming from the rest of the DC/government establishment for the last half year, so I don’t see why the Fed would be any different. When the feeding trough is threatened, some folks ‘resist’, some folks leak, some folks hike.  Potato, po-tah-to.   

And if you think the market won’t be allowed to drop because it’s never allowed to drop, ask yourself WHO has not been allowing it to drop for the last 8 years?  The PPT/Fed.  And what are these rate hikes suggesting they might want now?  Ummm hmmm.  

Regardless, don’t totally sleep on the long-shot catalyst folks; the S&P finally heading south as a possible catalyst for gold…

Trendline test, rise above, and rejection:

One of the lessons I’ve learned the hard way in the metals is that trend lines are not what classical trading theory says they are.  In classical trading theory, a trend line should act as a psychological level of support or resistance, and when (for example) price rises then bumps up against it then breaks through, it is supposed to trigger a new wave of buying as other market participants (seeing the strength of price in breaking through the barrier) join in the buying, driving price higher (or of course, in some cases rejecting price and sending it back down).

But all that supposes free and fairly traded markets among participants of equal standing before the law.  And these are the metals. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!  So here, trend lines are places where, when resistance is breached, once price breaks through and attracts new buyers, THEN the market “makers” crush price with an avalanche of paper to harvest all that new money that just came in. Ring the register, bank the bonus.

So the way trend lines work in the metals is that price bumps against resistance or trend lines, and if it goes through bringing in new longs, THEN it gets smashed back down below, and only when everyone who just got run has either been cleared out or turns bearish will price finally be allowed the possibility to rise back up through that line at some point. 

In other words, in the metals, trend lines are only valid indicators after the gang-rape has occurred there.  We’ve now had that in gold (twice, actually), so in my book, we are finally clear for a rise up through 1300.  Strange?  Yeah, but that’s how it works around here. 

The Bottom Line: Risk vs. Reward

In the end, all of the above is just food for thought, or fun speculation.  As the wizened sage of the trading pits atlee once said, “That’s a nice story.  Ms. Market doesn’t care about your story, she will go where she wants.” 

This is a basic range-trade with well-defined risk vs. reward.  You take the known trading range, buy-in near the recent low of that trading range, and use that as your stop- it’s a simple play, regardless of whether any of the above winds up being a catalyst or not.  Right now, GDX is just above the recent lows of May, so we have a very clear and recently defined low. We need to make a higher low above this level if we are going to continue moving up, so there is your well-defined stop-loss level.  GDX is around 22, and 20.75 would be my stop-loss for this trade… we go below that, the trade is busted, so get out (FYI, I find that gold and silver are gamed so much day to day that setting stops, entries and exits via GDX is much more reliable and predictable, even if the vehicles I am trading are gold and silver).  A tight, well-defined 5-6% stop-loss if you’re wrong is acceptably low risk IMO.

But the reward… if this takes off like I think it could, we would at least revisit the highs of GDX 31.5 of last summer. The safe play would be to take 50% profits near that point, then wait for market action to decide further, but I suspect it’s possible that the momentum generated by a rise from 22 to 31 would mean that bull might very well keep running until we hit the 36, and possibly on the outside the 40-42 range. But let’s stay conservative (recent range-bound) in our calculations and stick with the 31.5 figure- that would be an unleveraged gain of 43%.  Put another way, that’s a risk/return ratio of 7.7 to 1 on this trade.  (Best Borat voice) Verra Niiiiiiiice!!!! And if it keeps rolling to 36 or even 40? Ka-ching!

.     .     .

So you can have your summer doldrums, your new lows, and your gold seasonals.  This parrot, with disciplined stops, is going long.

GLTA 

86 Comments

infometron's picture

First!

Looking forward to reading this post!

Subsequent comments ignored until July... you all know why

Apologies to those posting on metals, miners and other occasional o/t issues. My loss... I fully admit

As for all the crypto/crypto stuff... sit on it and rotate cheeky

Pining 4 the Fjords's picture

Hey Infometron

I will miss your informed insights, especially since I know you've been following the winding up of GDXJ rebalancing.  May I make a humble suggestion to simply ignore each and every post (poster) you see of a certain type, so we may discuss the central topic of this board?  It would save you from throwing out the baby with the bathwater, and when I spend a good deal of time and energy preparing  this, it's disappointing not to hear the most informed voices weighing in and spurring discussions of their own.  I also shared what I think could be an excellent trade, if it pans out... not to comment out of churlishness would be, well, churlish!

Take part.  I worked hard on this and feel I'm sharing pretty grade-A trading info- we'll keep it on topic.

infometron's picture

@Pining

You are one of, if not the most, gracious of persons on this board. I will acquiesce for now to your kind invitation and request, especially since, aside from Craig's stellar commentary, your contribution here goes a long way toward satiating my thirst for what has been sorely missing and largely drowned out by the crypto crowd of late. God bless 'em.

goldcom's picture

Pining excelent as usual

I would like to thank you for your participation to this site, your market analysis is that of a seasoned veteran and your wonderful graphic creations here, simply out standing!! It has been a fun trip with you and others here, it is just different now and none of that is on you and it is because there is still a group of originals here that keep me here for now.

JW told me the weekends are not good as things go a bit sideways at Turdville and I'm sensing that tonight, like coming home and feeling like a fish out of water. Don't know what Turd is going to do with the way things are but he usually makes the right decision.

Sorry if I interrupted your post

Texas Sandman's picture

Sorry, Pining, not buying it...

Gold is at best slightly oversold here on a daily basis.  If we are going to have a turning point, it will likely come from one of the pivots shown on the chart below.  Why do these have value?  Because everybody and his cousin watching the market, including the bullion banks THINKS they have value.  And a nice big black bearish candlestick doesn't really impress me.  For this sucker to turn, look for a Japanese candlestick reversal at one of the levels shown (mainly the green or blue dashed ones --- weekly or monthly pivots... the other grey ones are just round number support), preferably in an oversold market (based on oscillator below).  For my part, I would characterize this market as "too late to short, too early to buy..."  The better argument, if somebody cares to make it comes from USDJPY, where I think the market has had a relief rally of sorts and may currently be rolling over, though on the basis of a daily chart it's also neither overbought nor oversold.  There, the market is clearly in a down trend.

JMHO.

argentus maximus's picture

@Pining:That's (in my humble

@Pining:

That's (in my humble opinion) a top class summation of the situation at present.

Setting the stops levels that won't get taken but still protect is of course the art form!

If I were to suggest a tweak, it would be that after the next 48 hours have passed by, longs "might" be a bit safer than right now.

@Infometron:

Nice to have you posting here. Stick with it please.

Craigo's picture

Love your work Pining...whilst Uncle Turd enjoys his R and R

And for what it's worth, I don't think anyone  on this website would consider you a 'nutter' regarding your tin foil hat comments. In fact, there's a fair chance that someone way up the oligarch  hierarchy is yanking the old witch's chain...just hearing the  babbling incoherency when she tried to justify her(?) decision making was painful  enough, let alone figuring out who put her up to it.

Consider one small matter if you please. We have silver options expiry on June 27(?) plus quarter end coming up shortly. Are you suggesting/advising  that we wait for all the selling shenanigans to play out  around that time and defer until the beginning of July before we 'dip in the toe' and go long?  

Cheers

Texas Sandman's picture

And a caution about sentimental analysis...

It tends to be most valid at the extremes.  In the middle of a move, sentiment is bearish and it ain't wrong-footed.  Not at all.

It's only when the trade is extremely lopsided that sentiment becomes a valid consideration.  I'm not sure how you can really tell when that is, but I don't think a sampling of web sites is a particularly good way to do it.

Dingo's picture

My churlishness lately.

I've had a couple of weeks away from the comments section! This was admittedly, because I too was becoming  a little churlish, with respect to the bitsy crypsy comments/discussion. I must say that it was refreshing to not check in for a while. 

I spend much of my life pretending not to be churlish, when 'deep down', I am. I played golf on the weekend. Some guy kept on saying " great shot" when it was actually a terrible shot - into a water hazard. Or "you're lucky to get away with that one" when I hit a great shot - exactly how I envisioned it. Instead of reacting with indignation, I smiled and laughed it off with an inoffensive and self deprecating joke. In reality, I wanted to make a very mean spirited retort. I wasn't brought up that way, though - so I didn't.

I know Pining is absolutely correct in his advice to Infometron. I guess that I'm intercepting this advice because I recently felt the same way, as Info currently does. I shouldn't deny myself TF metals or even golf because of my reaction to someone's comments. Thanks for the wise words, Pining. I really need to be more tolerant and good natured with golfers, tourists and shills. I treat it as a character building exercise.

silver10sguy's picture

Thank You Pining

I appreciate your efforts with this fine report.  I am bullish even more as the economic data is consistently bad.  There are so many sectors and nations drowning in debt that the bubbles will be hard to contain.  I don't mind waiting as buying cheap physical is a blessing that won't last forever.  Secondly, the purchasing power of our dollars will eventually fade away so taking advantage to buy and prepare further for a new monetary system.  We are entering the season historically of major crashes as well.  

Thanks again for a really good report.  I am learning to take more profits on individual miners and buy back in later after small or large smashes.   The criminal bankers are so skilled at using the charts that I am happy to even win with small gains occasionally. 

silver10sguy's picture

Jim Rickards comment

Just a quick copy and paste of a comment by Jim Rickards.  It is one of many trends around the world with new bullion facilities.  "On a recent visit to Switzerland, I was informed that secure logistics operators could not build new vaults fast enough and were taking over nuclear-bomb proof mountain bunkers from the Swiss Army to handle the demand for private storage."

Orange's picture

Neocons want war

I guess we just got one step closer.

"Any aircraft, including planes and drones belonging to the international coalition operating west of the Euphrates river, will be tracked by Russian anti-aircraft forces in the sky and on the ground and treated as targets," the Russian defence ministry said.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40329036

Joseph Warren's picture

Pining - thank you for an excellent article

Like you, I suspect TPTB may very well want to pull the plug on the general stock market. There are those on the web (yes, I shudder at that last phrase too) who think they are doing everything possible to impeach Pres Trump. (Impeachment isn't equivalent to actual removal from office, of course .)  - Now if they wanted to turn a populist president into Herbert Hoover 2.0, wouldn't the start of impeachment proceedings, followed by a steep stock market decline be perfectly convenient for them ? Of course the mainstream media would pound the 'market uncertainty due to the impeachment proceedings' meme. Which is equivalent to 'your stock market losses are Trump's fault'. And no mention would be made of prior Fed actions.

Well, that's my tin-foil hat speculation, anyway.  Thanks again for your article.

JQuest's picture

Even Though....

The PM's haven't made any major progress for me in the last almost 4 years I sleep well at night knowing that the angel of death could show up at anytime and reek havoc on the global social and economic scene.

Sure I could of made out pretty well if I invested in equities if only I had known the Government was going to backstop the market like it's done but I am more about the Insurance that PM's give me than the risk in the stock market, being in my 60's I know how fast this card house can collapse.

Anyway..

Keep Stacking, we will come out on top when this shit show collapses.

Back to my pot of Mexican Chicken Tortilla Soup on the stove...wink

5 lbs Chicken (I use whole Leg and Thighs) , 2 med White Onions Chopped, 6 cloves Fresh Grated Garlic, 1 tsb Red Chili Pepper, 4 cans Diced Spiced Stewed Tomatoes, 2 cans Green Giant Vac Pack Mexicorn, Salt, Pepper, Louisiana Hot Sauce. Crush and add On The Border Corn Chips when served and maybe a little grated cheese if you like. I don't use a strict recipe when I cook so a lot of tasting as I make it.

Cook the chicken in a separate pot for 1 hr 45 min low boil, remove chicken from the pot and remove chicken from the bones cutting up the big pieces, then add back in the pot with chicken broth. Make sure you remove all floating grease as you cook.

Cook stewed tomatoes, Mexicorn with scoop 1/4 cup or so of sugar in a separate pot also low boil for the same amount of  time.

Combine all in one pot with one small diced white onion and simmer 30 min Adding garlic salt to taste.

Enjoy... 

Ozymandias's picture

I thought this site was about TEOTGKE.

I think that the crypto discussion is certainly about this. I thought, and still do, that PMs were what would bring TEOTGKE about but cryptos are certainly very relevant in that discussion.

Just my 7.425 grains worth. Keep stacking.

Pining 4 the Fjords's picture

Thanks very much for the comments

I'll respond piecemeal, as I'm on my phone waiting for my kids Karate class at the moment!

Info and Dingo-  many thanks, and I appreciate your efforts on this.  I am dead serious when I suggest you just spend 5 min. going through an older thread you found frustrating and just putting on ignore any recurrent posts you find lessens your desire to participate. Your "scroll-through" would afterwards be faster and filtered for the things you came here for- no stress!

Joseph Warren- "stock market losses are Trump's fault'. And no mention of prior Fed actions.  This is exactly my thinking, it's an easy play, made easier by President Trump's proclivity for hyperbole on what he was going to fix regarding economic matters during the election. This is a layup I don't see being passed-up. My 2c.

Joseph Warren's picture

@ Pining

'This is a layup I don't see being passed-up. My 2c."

Yep, if we're right - no way the PMs can remain down under such conditions of general turmoil and instability.

Guess we'll see.

Pining 4 the Fjords's picture

Craigo and Texas

Craigo-   You are smart, IMO, to watch for buying opportunities around Silver Op Ex, and it is precisely games like that (and others) that cause me to use the GDX and not gold or silver chart when I'm setting stop losses, etc.  It's just more stable.

I should also point out that this is a multi-week/month swing trade idea, so I'm not trying to perfectly bottom-tick it today. We could easily see more weakness, churn, etc.  But that stop at 20.75 takes me out of it. Maybe hunting for lows every few days between now and the end of June would be a good way to build a position? If you are looking to build one, of course.

Texas-  You know I think very highly of your technical analysis, and of course you are right. That's actually a factor in this, for me- I think a big portion of the metals complex is seeing just what you are, which makes it a good place to wrong-foot...

Pining 4 the Fjords's picture

@Argentus

Thank you, sir! Much appreciated.  And without doubt, the next 48 hours (or more) could quite easily take us to the bottom of that range near GDX 21. I'm not good at 'bottom-ticking' and have been burned both ways of course! For some reason, it hurts more to have the trade but be left chasing because I was waiting for a great, not just decent, entry so that's how I set things up knowing myself and that I then tend to make poor decisions chasing afterwards. That's just me.

Setting stops that don't get harvested but still do the trick IS an art form, one I stumble at. The people who can see where all the stops are placed, and know exactly how far to drop price to harvest them before allowing a rise, make it a rather challenging game of chicken!  20.75 is mine, but it's a manual stop and a closing price only, not intra-day... that's my one feeble way to try and get around those bastards.

jaba's picture

Pining: You make a good case

There are just too many people on the bearish side of the PMs at this point in time.

Your observation re the golden cross with the 50 DMA above the 100 DMA, above the 200 DMA, is IMO not something to be lightly ignored, and gives one hope that this interim bottom is largely in.

I know that Maguire gets bad press from some Turdites, but I find his commentaries are usually lucid, and his insights are based upon his access to up to date data,  based upon his dealings in the wholesale gold market, which is something denied to the average PM investor.  His comments as to the gradually increasing stair stepping of competing bids from central banks and sovereign funds must be a constraining factor in bullion banks ability to push the PM prices down as far as they would ideally wish. He also mentioned that as at the 10th June, silver was in its 9th consecutive week of backwardation with a sweet spot of $17.20 for the July options expiry, although that is obviously a moving target.

The uncertainty of the GDXJ rebalancing is behind us is another favourable factor.

The geopolitical situation in the Middle East is a potential flash point that is supportive of PM demand.

So, like you Pining, I think we are in for an interesting summer and I am going further long, albeit with tight stops. 

bently's picture

Thank you, Pining

Many thanks for great original thoughts and your unique counter-intuitive presentations. I have a feeling your description, in particular, of the current mindset and actions of the Fed will be picked up and quoted on other sites.

Forgive me if I don't get it, but isn't there a contradiction between saying that, on the one hand, we are about to see the 50 DMA above the 100 DMA and 200 DMA -- which is good, because this golden cross will trigger buy signals -- and, on the other that once price breaks through and should establishe a new trend line of support, it won't work in the usual ways because the market makers will use the opportunity to swamp buyers with naked shorts and crush price...

Hope Matt stays. Hope Infometron returns.  Hope your theory proves to be correct -- and what a pleasant  change to see TFMR actually discussing PMs!

canary's picture

I want the stock market to go higher...much higher...

Double or triple from here.... to make it comical... and for everybody to see black and white (Bartimoro and Liesman included)...   how Fed and other Central Banks completely destroyed financial markets.

..................................................................................

Thanks Pining.

Libero's picture

Please folks, keep crypto talk off this thread

Use the old thread.

Thanks Pining for the well written article.

lakedweller2's picture

Texas, Pining and Info

Thanks to all 3 of you who are very important to the value of this site.  I remain ready for a move upward in this world of make believe and fraud.  Nothing would make me happier than at some point in the near future that TPTB are embarrassed in front of their friends and have to run home crying to their mothers...at least once.

Dr. P. Metals's picture

Enjoy

OOOBuck's picture

Pining, I'm no poet

but I'm too exhausted to write more on the subject so, I dashed off these few verses.  Make of it what you will.

Our walls are breached
The gates afire
In our courtyard
They shout their victory
And tread upon our blood

Our cause was right
and God Himself
Stood at our side
Our cheers now whispered prayers
Our eyes fixed in grim resolve

Back, back you sorrowful few
To the throne room
and our final stand
It is there we'll meet our fate
Face to face, blade to blade

"Lord God, they look as us,
They speak our tongue!"
and yet they are not us
Their cheers as lead in our ears
Now let it end that we may not hear

Angry Chef's picture

Unpacking The Gridlock on Healthcare Reform

I came across this last night and I thought it was food for thought from the previous thread regarding Donald Trump's Healthcare changes. How much money could be saved were we not all subject to unhealthy diets and lifestyles that include such things as GMO food. Cancer causing Glyphosate sprayed on our food. Spraying of chemicals on our food. A vast prescription epidemic. Exposure to high levels of EMF/EMP radiation. Vaccines. This brief clip by Catherine Austin Fitts and Jon Rappoport for the upcoming quarterly Solari report is worth a listen. 

https://solari.com/blog/unpacking-the-gridlock-on-health-care-reform-with-jon-rappoport/

Now get rid of our debt based money system and eliminate all of the above. Our Medical system has become just another racket that the Banksters shove down our throats. Make everybody sick and Insurance companies and States and Federal Government are going to continue to push more debt into the system in order to sustain a sick and dying system. Just like Jim Willie would say that the Fed is hiding the monetized securities in places like Liechtenstein and Ireland. The Banksters use the medical system to create more re-cycled debt.

Change the way money is created. And eliminate all the harm being imposed on all of us and our children. Now that would be a Healthcare Plan we could all get behind.

Dr Jerome's picture

most gold traders always wrong?

Well I have certainly had my share of being on the wrong side...

Thanks for the stimulating post Pining. You have outlined a number of probably reasons for a bullish run. Of course there are always reasons of varying strengths on both sides of a scale, and thus far we seem to be discussing and weighing as many reasons as we can. 

I have to consider the world situation since we are talking about a world gold market, and there are other central banks involved here. Just because the FED will support the Trump-haters in their coup efforts, doesn't mean the EU or BOJ have the same motives, not to mention the double standard motives of the elites who want Trump gone, but will be stealthily buying gold along the way.

The FED's actions lately have me scratching my head.

  • Are they Stupid? I don't think so.
  • Are they daring enough to crash the markets to help oust Trump? Maybe, but the contagion risk is very high. They are playing with fire.
  • Are they devious, pursuing some master plan? Probably. but I do not believe they are in full control. China and Russia are pursuing different goals.

JQuest,  Thanks for that recipe!

I liked NUGTCALL's suggestion on the previous thread--that Turd monetizes this need for investors to talk about cryptos.

Perhaps a TFcryptoreport.com parallel website, with a prominent link between the two sites, could fill a niche, providing an exclusive platform for the needed crypto talk among us. Current subscribers could ante up a few more dollars each month for full access. And perhaps some informed members can provide most of the daily commentary to kick off conversations, freeing Turd from much of the burden of being the crypto expert and writing two articles a day.

Angry Chef's picture

JQuest...WWIII....

Who could have ever seen it coming ? 

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