Another Must Listen JBSFC

Wed, Dec 2, 2015 - 8:45am

We've been posting these weekly discussions for nearly two years now and I am so grateful to have discovered this tremendous source of objective, fair analysis of The New Cold War. Last evening, John and Steve again provided a thorough update that requires your full attention.

With so much action on multiple fronts, I'm sure that John and Steve could talk for hours if given the opportunity. Instead, they are forced to cram the full discussion into just these 39 minutes. I urge you in the strongest possible terms to give this, and all subsequent weeks, a thorough listen.

This week they began with Ukraine, which is still the epicenter of The New Cold War, and a report out of Wikileaks Ukraine. Apparently, audio has been "captured" that quotes Odessa governor Mikhail Saakashvili as saying: "Let the war begin, This would fully suit us." When you understand who Saakashvili is, and how he came to be governor of Odessa, you'll understand how troubling this statement is.

From there a full Ukraine update including the continued electrical blackout in Crimea and reports of incoming fire and Kiev heavy weapon buildup near Donetsk and Luhansk.

The second half is an absolute must listen where the discussion centers around the idea that "we need a new conception of how we (the U.S.) want to live with other nations". This point is exactly why we were initially drawn to these discussions in early 2014. The U.S. no longer "holds the cards" with the unbridled ability to act as the global hegemon. However, we continue to resist that fact across the board....militarily and economically. This blindness is what drives The New Cold War and it makes this current situation the most dangerous, in terms of geo-politics, since The Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962.


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Dec 2, 2015 - 8:50am

Silver medal

for 2nd place. Now for coffee.

2c piece
Dec 2, 2015 - 8:51am


Thanks, now to listen.

Dec 2, 2015 - 8:59am

Back in Turdville

Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving...

Joseph Warren
Dec 2, 2015 - 9:44am

David Stockman's View . .

of course, he was a high level official in the Reagan WH -

An article to give us pause (though there are some statements that I find quite ridiculous in it). I wonder if Americans have so often heard that 'we have the most powerful military in the world' that too many may not appreciate the dangers of world war -

And lastly, this article makes a lotta sense to me. Especially, when on a forum recently where a 'red state conservative' was quite willing to 'bring it on !' over Ukraine - a place he's never been to with people he's never met. To beat back 'the communists' . When presented with contradictory evidence - such as the Stockman article above - it was as though he could not see it.

That is craziness -

Dec 2, 2015 - 9:47am
4 oz
Dec 2, 2015 - 9:54am


Angry Chef
Dec 2, 2015 - 2:39pm

Russia's S-400

I'm trying to berify what JB said in the interview that the S-400 can shoot down 80 Aircraft at a time. If true...yeesh.....

Dec 2, 2015 - 3:28pm

Russia versus NATO's Gladio

Russia versus NATO's Gladio 2.0: Turkish jihad from China to Syria

In July this year the Thai government stopped over 100 Uyghurs on their way to wage glorious 'CIA-had' in Syria (via Turkey), and sent them back to China. The US State Department was very annoyed - so annoyed, in fact, that in August a bomb exploded at a shrine in Bangkok, killing 20 people, mostly ethnic Chinese holiday-makers. The key suspect fled to Turkey. An accomplice to the bomber was arrested and found to be carrying 11 Turkish passports. The bombing is now suspected to have been carried out by the Grey Wolves in retaliation for Thailand's previous deportation of Uyghur terrorist suspects back to China instead of allowing them to travel to Turkey, and then Syria.

On the feel-good, peace-loving humanitarian front, the US government has gone 'all in' to create and financially support (via the NED) the World Uyghur Congress (in 2004), a political (rather than military) tool designed specifically to put pressure on the Chinese government.

But the Kunming and Bangkok attacks are likely to be just a small taste of what is to come. This is why Russia is attempting to strangle the creature in its cradle in Syria. And this is why Russia conducted the largest military exercises seen since the Cold War - 100,000 soldiers across 6,000km of southern Russia - held in September just days before Putin started bombing the hell out of terrorists in Syria, and simulating "an international threat coming from central Asia."

There is substantial evidence of a major US/NATO operation to traffic Chinese Uyghur fighters from Xinjiang to Turkey, and then Syria, and back again to bring 'jihad' to western China. According to Al Mayadeen, a Beirut-based satellite news service, abandoned villages in northern Syria have recently been filling up with the families of Muslim Chinese Uyghurs. These Uyghurs, claims the report, are entering the country, along with their wives and children, to fight alongside Al Nusra Front (formerly known as Al Qaeda) and ISIS/Daesh against the Syrian government. In addition to providing a cadre of battle-trained fighters to ship back to China, the influx of 'Turkic' Uyghurs into northern Syria is very likely an attempt by the Turkish government to populate the area with 'Turks' in advance of potential 'peace talks' on the likely future break-up of Syria.

Dec 2, 2015 - 3:49pm

Exposing the Sham “War on

Exposing the Sham “War on Terror”. The Essential Maps, Videos, and Charts.By Global Research News
Global Research, December 02, 2015

Url of this article:


logo-al-qaedaImprisoned Al Qaeda Fighters Freed by U.S. Allies to Rejoin Fight Against Assad

By Eric Zuesse, December 02 2015

Some of the world’s top Al Qaeda operatives were freed from a Lebanese prison on Tuesday December 1st, to rejoin the U.S.-led war against Syria’s Bashar al-Assad.

NATO-UStroops-baltic-350x280Video: Redeployment of Ukraine Forces against Donbass, Obama’s “Incremental Islamic State Strategy”

By South Front, December 02 2015

The Ukrainian armed forces over the past week have redeployed to the contact line with Donbass 277 battle tanks and heavy artillery pieces, spokesman for the DPR Defense Ministry Eduard Basurin reported on Monday.

turkey-isisMaps Reveal Chain of ISIS Oil Smuggling Routes from Syria and Iraq into Turkey. Russian Defense Ministry

By RT, December 02 2015

Russia’s Defense Ministry published images and a map it says reveal a chain of oil smuggling to Turkey from Islamic State – from extraction to refining facilities.

war on terror2The Entire “War on Terror” Has Been a Lie – And These Charts Prove It

By Rebecca Sumner, December 02 2015

We were told long ago that the “war on terror” would make the world a safer place. But after 14 years of permanent warfare, terrorist attacks around the world have escalated by a staggering 6,500%.

turkeyflagimage5Turkey – A Study in Geo-Political Malevolence

By Adeyinka Makinde, December 02 2015

The recent shooting down of a Russian military plane by Turkish air force jets has brought a great deal of media focus on the role of Turkey in the Syrian conflict. Knowledgeable observers of the four year-long civil war have been aware of Turkey’s role from the outset as a conduit for the infiltration of Syrian territory by Islamist militants who have had training camps provided for by the Turkish Army High Command.

Dec 2, 2015 - 4:12pm
Dec 2, 2015 - 8:44pm

I don't know who gave the heads up, but

someone pointed out Dan Carlin's Hardcore History and I've been hooked. After having listened to The Kings of Kings, I moved to the Wrath of Khans, and am listening to part 6 of Blueprint for Armageddon.

This last one is on the events of WWI. The start, and escalation and the horrors of this war has been difficult to listen to. Even being a gamer, I have been avoiding the modern warfare (WWI and forward) titles of play. To put it simply I'm a wuss in a man suit, especially in the face of all these stories.

This period of time has really formed what's going on today. I've also been listening to and reading the bible with Chuck Missler. He gives quite an in depth perspective of the histories involved in both the Old Testament, and New Testament. It doesn't really matter if you're a believer or not.

There are enough believers that the entire globe is now involved in the ongoing narrative that started waaay long ago. The wrappings of illuminati, Rothschild, Jesuit, banker revolution and wars all easily fit into it.

I want to thank whomever that may have put up the link to Dan's Hardcore History, and if you haven't listened to it the series of Blueprint for Armageddon is well worth the effort.

Dec 2, 2015 - 9:45pm

RE: Doomsday

Reads like Ben Fulford.

Dec 2, 2015 - 11:10pm

Thanks, Turd

These JBSFC podcasts are always a "must listen" for me. Thank you for posting them on your site.

Dec 3, 2015 - 1:50pm

Mikhail Saakashvili

-- he is a nationalist, like Poroshenko. Like many others. You can find them in Hungary, Slovakia, the Czech republic, in Baltic states, in Poland, you can mention -- Catalonia, Ireland, Scotland, and -- of course, in the U.S. Am I wrong? It's obvious. They will fight for their sovereign, independent nation-states. That's their common goal. Let's see, for example --

The Crimean Tatars threatens with a naval blockade of Crimea

Representatives of the Crimean Tatars threatened to blockade the Strait of Kerch, which leads across virtually the only supply and transport route between anected Crimea and the Russian mainland. It results from Tuesday's statements by the representatives of the Informal Crimean Tartar Parliament, Mustafa Dzhemilev and Lenur Islyamova. [Then, there is the photo of Reuters agency, Checkpoints built by ethnic Tatars and Ukrainian nationalists, on the road linking the Crimea with Ukrainian Kherson regions.]

“Crimea naval blockade will completely isolate traffic,” said Islyamov, the former Crimean deputy Prime minister, before the Russian occupation of Crimea.

"Crimea must be returned to Ukraine. If it is not understood in Moscow yet, so much the worse for them," said one of the organizers of the energy blockade which is ongoing, for the second week. It has caused deliberate damage to the transmission line poles to which the Ukrainian Crimean Tatars prevent access, including the repair crews.

[Now, there is the photo: One of the destroyed electric pylons near the village Conhar in Kherson region, that was detonated by radical activists on November 21. Peninsula was cut off from the electricity supply.]

Stopping the ferry across the Kerch Strait would be a disaster for the Crimea. Maritime route is the main supply artery, through which flows, from Russia to the Crimea, the supply of all goods and now fuel for diesel generators. Moscow is intensively preparing to build a bridge, but that should happen only in 2018, the earliest.

Sergey Aksyonov, the Crimean governor handpicked by Moscow after annexation of Crimea, stated that a naval blockade of the peninsula is not going to happen. "Kerch Strait is fully under the authority of Russia. Let them come, let’s welcome them. The Tribunal will be held in Simferopol, where the judgment will be enforced on them,” he threatened Tatars.


Now, who are Crimea Tatars?

"Crimean Tatars (Crimean Tatar: qırımtatarlar or qırım, qırımlı, Turkish: Kırım Tatarlar or Kırım, Kırımlı, Russian: крымские татары, Ukrainian: кримськi татари, кримці) are a Turkic ethnic group that formed in the Crimean Peninsula in the 13th-17th centuries, primarily from the Turkic tribes that moved to the land that is now known as Crimea in Eastern Europe from the Asian steppes beginning in the 10th century, with contributions from the pre-Cuman population of Crimea. Crimean Tatars constituted the majority of Crimea's population from the time of its ethnogenesis until mid-19th century, and the relative largest ethnic population until the end of 19th century.[8][9] Almost immediately after the liberation of Crimea, in May 1944, the USSR State Defense Committee ordered the removal of a majority of the Tatar population from Crimea, including the families of Crimean Tatars serving in the Soviet Army - in trains and boxcars to Central Asia, primarily to Uzbekistan. Starting in 1967, some were allowed to return to Crimea, and in 1989 the USSR Parliament condemned the removal of Crimean Tatars from their motherland as inhumane and lawless. Today, Crimean Tatars constitute approximately 12% of the population of Crimea. There remains a large diaspora of Crimean Tatars in Turkey and Uzbekistan." [wiki]

Turkey, right? Right... and that's the Putin's problem. It was NOT ONLY about clearing Crimea from Native Crimea Indians and sending them on reservations in the far-away lands. ;-) It’s was about Russification of Crimea, sending Russian families to Crimea to take over Crimea Tatar’s farm lands, their businesses and homes, and getting this all for free. There was never any compensation at all. Yet, all these debates about RUSSIAN Crimea, they start conveniently with Nikita Khrushchev giving “Russian Crimea” to Ukraine! :-) That's a clear BIAS, to say at least. No, it's not so simple.

Dec 3, 2015 - 2:47pm

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