Secret Society of the Turd

Sat, Jan 31, 2015 - 5:44pm

First and foremost, I wanted to congratulate Turd (belatedly) on his birthday – here’s to 49 more. Is it JUST a coincidence, that this year also marks Superbowl XLIX? I think not.

Thanks, TF for all you do – working without rest, even when clearly sick, even on your birthday, through holidays and weekends, vacations and funerals. All of us on the site deeply appreciate your efforts, and all of us have become richer in many ways, even if not all of us in FRN terms.

My, what long, strange trip it’s been. Since first discovering the importance and unique position of precious metals in the global economy, to searching out and visiting my first LCS, buying my first ‘stack’ of a meager ~40 ounces of silver -- and the roller-coaster ride to where we are today.

The value of a community such as this one has always been enhanced, nay, half-defined by the contributions, personalities, humor, insights and perspectives of the participants -- you all, my fellow Turdites. While the site from its outset has fostered a free exchange of ideas, encouraged interaction through comments, posts, forum threads and live webinars, I have long toyed with the idea that it would be really cool to meet my fellow Turdites in person. I've certainly 'met' and 'spoke with' many here whom I would love to have a chance to meet, and a few whom I am proud to call friends despite never having had that chance.

Until the grand, global Turdville Summit can be organized, I figured it would perhaps be possible to take matters into our own hands. I would like to propose an inaugural meeting of the Secret Society of Turd (SST©), Pacific Northwest Chapter.

Proposed date: Sunday, February 8th, 4:00 PM

Proposed location: to be released individually, to confirmed participants, southwest Seattle, WA, where we can appropriately lament our individual and collective boating accidents. In the unforeseen event there is overwhelming interest/response, I can also look into a larger venue or event hall, but for now it’s just a bar. Sorry, only those with membership as of this post need apply. If this encourages you to sign up for an account, you will be very welcome at the (hopefully eventual) next meeting.

Forum link:

Contact: john dot yossarian896 @t hushmail period com

This is meant to be a completely informal gathering for any and all interested Turdites, local or visiting town that weekend. I have heard many arguments over the years AGAINST face-to-face meetings, about the risks and dangers. I say the risk/benefit ratio is in my favor in this particular case. Come on public transport/foot/taxi from a nearby but not proximal parking spot (many will be available nearby). Weave a surreptitious route. Do a bunch of rapid U-turns on the way. Wear a mask or Seahawks face-paint. Never reveal your real name, if you so choose. Leave your cellphone at home. Photography will be strictly controlled to ensure consensuality.

Perhaps even a few lurkers who rarely if ever post, or are uncomfortable with leaving an electronic trail online might be coaxed out of 'hiding' for some realtime interaction.

But I am increasingly convinced of the importance of personal, ‘REAL’ contacts, an actual network for ALL aspects of life – and the significance of this is, in my view, only going to increase in the days, months and years to come. Whether to swap stories, drown nosediving mining share tickers in beer, network professionally, share tips on gardening and (negative or positive) experiences in educating friends and family, I think this could be a fun occasion. Worst-case scenario – we sample the tap’s many local brews, and part company, never to meet again. Who knows, y’all might be such miserable, blightly buggers that I’ll flee with the first pint unfinished…

OR perhaps this could be the beginning of a regular bi-monthly/monthly get-together. If only 1 pair of people click and become friends, it will have been worth it. And perhaps (lofty and egotistical aspiration as this may be) we can inspire others around the country and the world to have more similar gatherings, and raise their glasses to Turd and all the denizens of Turdvillle.

If there ARE others out there who are interested in organizing/hosting get-together(s) for the same date and time, I am happy to bring along a webcam, and create a video link so that we may make this a trans-American (or perhaps even trans-continental) event. If many individuals join, there might be a bit of a cacophony -- but ideas on how this could perhaps be possible are also welcome.

Curious to hear thoughts on the matter, pro or con. Please use the forum thread above (or the comments section below) to indicate intent to participate, or email me directly. If you do, please take the time to set up a non-personally identifiable email account – a prudent step in any case, and DO tell me your TFMR handle. Either email me from the account associated with your TFMR login, or indicate what that is. I would like to take every precaution to ensure that this is an invitation-only event, if it happens.

PS: I suppose, in re-reading the post above, I did not make this sufficiently clear. I am (obviously) in the Seattle area, and thus can offer to host a small get-together for other Turdites here. But the larger point is that ANYONE can do the same -- in their metropolitan area, just as easily. Just as we have already seen Pining, California Laywer and BBB meet in the greater LA area, and have borne witness to a gathering of eminent Turdites (incl. Ned Naylor-Leyland, if I am not mistaken) in London -- this can be done ANYTIME by ANY Turdville citizen.

By the way, dear fellow Turdite participants of these shindigs, please re-post the pics if you would - I can't find them right now.

Just post the date and time and (surreptitious or open) directions for the pub, gathering hall or other public place here, or in the forums -- let's get more of these going, if anyone is of like mind. If you WANT to reach out and form your own chapter of SST -- the power is in your hands. There is no need for Tyler Durden himself to travel from city to city, from bar to bar to set up a local chapter of Fight Club -- the participants are ALREADY aware, are already subscribed.

If you own a bar or run a restaurant -- put out the call. If you know someone who does -- talk to them, and THEN do the same. If you are neither of those -- well, reserving a few tables at your favorite watering hole a few weeks out should not be too much of a challenge.

Go forth and multiply these local gatherings. I challenge the community to come up with at least 3 more gatherings for next weekend. There are, at a minimum, a few THOUSAND readers of the site out there -- reach out and touch someone today. Either post a response in THIS posts's comments -- or in the Forum link above. Or start a new Forum topic of your own. Either way, the power to make it happen is in YOUR hands.

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Jan 31, 2015 - 6:37pm

An idea whose time has

An idea whose time has come! Except, are we being secret to protect one another, or to maintain our stellar reputations in the community? We could get t-shirts that say I am Turd!

YOu know, the idea is growing on me. I do have a couple of old friends near Seattle. Gas is cheap. And the world is still in one piece, but may not be for long. Perhaps it is now or never.

Jan 31, 2015 - 6:40pm

Off Topic but a good place to rant!

This has been an interesting week in the construction business. We are building six townhouses in the city and the subcontractors are an interesting bunch. Most of the crews over the last few years are from south of the Rio Grande. Lots of those crews around today. I was encouraged to view my framing crew. Four men from north of the Rio and one was colored (few black framers these days). I do not like the term "African American" just Americans. People do not call me Polish American.

Boy what a mess that has invaded the lives of all these men. Foul mouthed, chain smokers, drugs, tobacco chewers, booze drinkers, rap hearers, divorced, and probably living at home with mom and dad or with their girlfriends. A BIG MESS.

I remember when the Hippies were into "California Dreaming" and my classmates painted their VW vans , threw away their bras, dressed in sack dresses and headed for the good life. Lots of weed! I thought "how will this end"? That was just the beginning and the counter- culture has spread its wings into everything:

Top Definition


any group of people whose beliefs, values, styles, and attitudes differ from that of the prevailing culture. Counter-culture began with the hippie movement back in the late 60's and 70's. In today's society, counter-culture is most often seen in the alternative subcultures.

The gothic, punk, emo, skater, raver subcultures are all examples of present-day counter-cultures.


Do we really believe that these movements do not affect the direction of a nation and what we export to a needy world? Do we think that the many comedians from Hollywood, late night T.V. trash, and even the casino entertainment, has no effect on the culture? I have watched this degeneration of morals and values over the last fifty years and now our nation is left to us in a desolate condition. The youth have been robbed of moral fiber, the young adults have lost their direction in life and grandma is trying to find employment.

Oh yes, I am in the small minority within this view. I have seen the destruction of the family unit as the parents align with the counter culture. This will not end well for the huge majority. It will take Big Medicine to heal this nation, however, the plague is still roaming the streets of America. jmo Jim

Jan 31, 2015 - 7:13pm

Is it just me

or is the NFL flipping us off?

Whitecastle123 DeaconBenjamin
Jan 31, 2015 - 7:35pm

Turd @ 49

Seven sevens, seven Shemitahs. I'm getting a little freaked out.

Paging Rabbi Cohan.

Jan 31, 2015 - 7:39pm

Kinda looks like a penis with a big knob to me

I want to ask my wife to polish it.

Jan 31, 2015 - 7:41pm

Thought I was gonna get lucky

But when I showed my wife that post she came at me with Tarn-X and a chore boy. Oh well, can't have everything - where would you put it?

Jan 31, 2015 - 7:43pm

@ JY896 Logo?

Let me know if you need a Logo for SST. My son is studying graphic design in college and he is good at Logos.

Ned Braden valvend
Jan 31, 2015 - 8:32pm

Lets have Pining

Make the logo....

Yale Skull and Bones motif, two RCM 100 oz silver bars; crossed. (Or two kilo AU bars)

Big yellow Hat in place of Skull


Mr. Fix
Jan 31, 2015 - 10:00pm

Secret Society of the Turd?

That sounds only moderately dangerous, but I agree that ultimately there is a need for real-life human beings to network. Count me in. I would be quite interested in forming a Northeast chapter, however my community organizing skills are somewhat lacking. I know that there are plenty of us here in the New York metropolitan area, I'll check back later, to see what kind of interest is expressed.

Jan 31, 2015 - 11:44pm

What is the population of Turdville?

Any chance of putting a population counter somewhere on the homepage which would indicate Turdville's population, O Mighty Turd? It would be neat to see how many of us there are in this virtual village. Or maybe some kind of revolver map which shows the location of someone visiting the site? That's neat also.

As for a congress of turdites, JY896, that sounds okay, but a warmer locale (like Florida or Vegas) would be okayer. Still, it's a good idea.

Jan 31, 2015 - 11:53pm


The whole point is that we need/must not wait for anyone to organize this FOR us. Pick a place and a time, and put out the call for YOUR locale. Decentralized, cellular organization is an asset, not a detriment. Think global, act local, and all.

Feb 1, 2015 - 6:03am

Happy Birthday

Turd, I hope you had a wonderful day for your birthday. I greatly appreciate all you do for this site. The tide seems to be turning in gold as the powers that be lose more control. The idea of a get together sounds good. I am in Melbourne, Australia so coming would be a little tricky. Cheers Richard

Feb 1, 2015 - 10:42am

Out In The Cold

It's a great idea. My problem is location. I'd be the only one one showing up at the local watering hole. :( It's -21C here today and..... hmmmmm... I don't think there is any closer members. My guess closest to me 750 kms. Doh!!

Feb 1, 2015 - 10:46am

Fun idea...

We should create rings with an official symbol and mail them out to those interested. No entry to the meetings without the club ring!

Feb 1, 2015 - 11:33am

I will leave

The location of the meeting under a slab of Greenstone containing 0.12oz/ton gold at the portal of the old Ropes Gold Mine in Ishpeming,MI

Feb 1, 2015 - 11:59am

Awesome Idea JY!

However, I cannot pull it off this weekend. Up to my eyeballs in trial work. Been in trial since December. Another few weeks then I can come up for air.

I'll post something soon, and then I can gather up the LA turdites.

I love the idea of a skull and bones logo with a turd hat and crossed silver bars!

Feb 1, 2015 - 1:58pm

JY...plat du turd....

JY....did a Turdite meetup in London a couple of years ago....has it really been that long? It is so cool to meet like minded folks from all walks of life...also did a turdite meetup in St Loius with a couple of lads over Xmas ....gonna meet another next week....gutted I will be half a continent away from your gathering....all the best to all Turdites who can make it! Always had a good times with Turds!

Feb 1, 2015 - 2:44pm


Seattle is too far on short notice. Anybody in the Payson, Prescott, Flagstaff region? I might even be talked into a trip down to Phoenix. I have met with two of our number in the past years. I enjoyed my time heartily on each occasion.

Here sand cpnscarlet (holding Sasha) and I (goofy smile) posed for a pic before we all went out to dinner. He is far more astute than I on how markets work. And his model trains are incredible. (I suspect he had gold stashed in each car.)

A couple of months ago I met with Silverwood in Sedona AZ and his advice on forex trading (don't do it!) probably saved me a couple of grand.

So if you think you are getting educated by just reading the site, a meet-up might be the equivalent of an academic conference where your brain gets stretched and stuffed full. As for stretching your stomach with craft beers, I'll leave each turdite to their own.

Feb 1, 2015 - 3:13pm

Great idea

I've always been jealous of the few and far between Turdite meetups. I'm in the D.C. area because my gf has a good career here. I'm talking her into moving back west (I'm from Bend, OR and Chico, CA, with a few years in Fresno and L.A. - with friends and family all up and down the west coast). She's from Montana, so she's open to the idea, just going to take time to get things prepared for that move. But I digress... I would be open to having a beer or three w/any Turdites in this area. Or it would be great just to stop by for a beer on my yearly trip to the west coast and Baja (Usually May and June). I pass through pretty much every town along I-5 on my return trip. What would REALLY be cool would be to go to one of Turd's Las Vegas conferences and all meet up there. Of course, that money could also be used to add to the stack, so tough decision :( I thought I saw in one of the threads someone mention a chat function for the site - is that something in the works? That would be cool on the side of the post or as an option for a pop-up window. Enjoy the game today!

gold slut
Feb 1, 2015 - 3:27pm

@ Dr J & cpnscarlet....

Great post Dr J, great stuff, Cpnscarlet, model railway and cats!! Good god, there are two of us in the world??? Woahh... Cats, trains and PMs.. that can't be good! Thank God I am not my poor long suffering wife.

Feb 1, 2015 - 3:35pm

any hoosiers out there with a green thumb ?

Great concept, would love to meet some like minded turds. Are there any green thumbs out there ? I've been working diligently the past 1 1/2 years on a growing hydroponic operation. I have a patent pending growing concept that should be fully operational this spring. It's been a long time coming. However, once I'm up and running the plan is to exploit this concept by taking hydroponics a step further through evolution by making hydroponic growing a more acceptable source for nutritional food. The sky is the limit and my vision is to take this concept across the globe. I would enjoy sharing and helping others share my dream... Are there any Turds out there around Northern Indiana or surrounding areas ? Please send me a message. Tally Ho !!!

Feb 1, 2015 - 3:51pm


I was just up in your area - my gf's brother lives in Lafayette. We spent a week there at her family reunion / Christmas gathering. Nice little 11 hour drive. Keep us updated on your hydroponics. I live in a townhouse and only get sun from about 1 pm when it crests our building until about 5 pm when it falls below the trees. I can't even grow tomatoes here. Peppers are about the only thing I've been able to get to thrive. Side note: on my return trip I stopped at two gas stations that were out of gas and another one that only had regular - out of plus and premium. Saw this too: Have not verified anything related to that yet, but could affect oil?

Feb 1, 2015 - 3:57pm


If and when you manage to find yourself in the Fort Wayne area send me a message :)

Feb 1, 2015 - 4:35pm

Vegas baby

Weekend in Vegas. I just don't see this being a Branson crowd.

Feb 1, 2015 - 5:33pm

Here's My Input

I'll Carry The Flag!!!!!!! KEEP STACKING

Feb 1, 2015 - 11:20pm

Location here is not for from

Location here is not for from the geographical center of the U.S. How's that for giving everyone stateside an equal distance to travel? Been involved in get together of some online forum groups and it was a lot of fun getting to know each other. Worth some serious consideration. Realize there could be some difficulties, but surely they could be worked out.

Feb 2, 2015 - 8:50am

Arizona Chapter

Dr J: I would be happy to head to northern or central Arizona for a meetup, I have been working on a large groundwater model of the Verde Valley and need to visit some areas of interest....

Patriot Family
Feb 2, 2015 - 1:24pm

I am in Seattle and Spokane

Depends on the day. I'd be willing to meet in either of those locations.

Seattle - my typical work day, on weekdays. I work downtown.

Spokane - I am actually about 2 hours north but can travel down as long as our road gets plowed and I can get through. No problem with the piddly little amount of snow we've seen so far this year. This is where I am at on weekends at this point. Also willing to go over into N. Idaho.

Gold Dog
Feb 3, 2015 - 8:26am


4,500 foot runway would be nice. Dog

Feb 3, 2015 - 11:38am

Salina, KS.....

...near the geographical center is 7,200 feet, with fueling services.


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