Even More On The Gold-Yen Link

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Thu, Nov 13, 2014 - 11:11am

As other outlets catch on to the gold--yen link, I thought we might discuss it a bit more today.

First of all, my apologies for sounding like a broken record. It is not my intention to beat this topic to death on a daily basis. However and for now, IT IS WHAT IT IS and we have to deal with it. Additionally, I am convinced that this persistent correlation might hold the key to finally stressing the paper---physical connection. GOFO rates in London fell even further in London today, making new 15-year lows in the process. This is always a sign of physical delivery stress and, to me, indicates that The Bullion Banks are having extreme difficulty sourcing metal to deliver at these noneconomically-derived paper prices.

And it continues to appear that we are seeing this stress play out in real time on the price charts. Notice that since last Friday, the paper price of gold has broken cleanly above the JPYUSD. It hasn't yet drawn completely way but it hasn't fallen back into complete overlap, either.

Apparently we're not the only ones who have noticed this, though I must say that it surprises me that so few have caught on. ZeroHedge wrote up a summary last night where they laid the correlation at the feet of the BoJ: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-12/did-boj-quietly-peg-yen-gold

I don't agree with their conclusion as it grossly overstates the size and complexity of the Comex paper gold market. What I mean is...It doesn't take a formal central bank peg to link gold to the yen. Remember, "prices" are set on the Comex by just a small handful of HFT algo hedge funds trading against an even smaller number of bullion bank desks. If the majority of these computer-driven funds are programmed to sell gold with every downtick, gold is going to follow the yen. Period. No central bank intervention is needed.

And you've heard me state that although this gold-yen correlation came into prominence in 2008, it only really got sickeningly tight in June of this year. Want more proof of that? Then check out the next two charts...

First, here's three years of a similar linkage that I've discussed often in the past...the rational and economic link between gold and The Long Bond. Again, why is this rational? Lower interest rates make gold, which "doesn't pay interest and is a useless relic" more attractive. Note the clear correlation until...you guessed it, June of this year:

Now look at three years of the yen-gold link. Notice the same loose correlation until June 2014 and then, WHAM! Ever since they are perfectly 1:1.

So, why did this happen? What changed in June to prompt this break of the gold-LB and accelration of the gold-yen? Who can say for sure? Maybe ZH is right and the BoJ started running an operation in June in anticipation of the increase in QE announce two weeks ago. Maybe. All I know is that it clearly is what it is and until the paper---physical link causes the correlation to break, we will likely see gold move even lower as the yen moves lower.

To that end, read this. More from SocGen's Albert Edwards. This time, instead of forecasting the USDJPY rising to 120, he's now saying 145! YIKES!! If the gold-yen correlation doesn't break before then, what would gold be at yen 145? $900? $700?? https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-13/most-important-chart-investors...

Again, I don't think this will happen for two, primary reasons:

  1. The physical market will break from the paper price well before $700 gold.
  2. The Fed has to understand that global disaster that a 145 yen and an 80¢ euro would bring. I simply cannot imagine that they wouldn't act to malign the dollar if the POSX begins to even exceed 90, much less 100 or 110.

So, anyway, all of this is pretty crazy stuff but it's what we get since we've allowed all global markets to become such computer-driven shams.

I need to mention crude for a moment. We discussed in yesterday's podcast that the chart looked lousy and it appeared that another breakdown was coming. Well, we didn't have to wait long. Hot on the heels of another Saudi pronouncement (covert Russian sanction scheme), the price fell to new lows for this move at $75.43 and I have a last of $75.70. Though $75 can and will offer some support, I still think that the greazy stuff is headed to $70. So far, today's move has not dragged silver lower and this could be a growing sign of physical silver tightness...just like what we're seeing in the gold-yen growing divergence. We'll need to watch this closely, too.

Finally, here are some two-hour charts of the metals, for what they're worth...

That's all for now as I need to get ready for A2A within the hour. As usual, I'll post a recorded copy of the presentation shortly after it concludes.

Have a great day,

TF

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ivars
Nov 14, 2014 - 8:36am

Gold lease rate ( Libor -

Gold lease rate ( Libor - GOFO) makes a clearer picture how much it costs to take a loan into physical gold-and how it has changed since September 2014:

ivars
Nov 14, 2014 - 8:30am

We might be nearing a bottom

We might be nearing a bottom from which only war threats can get the gold/silver out.

Old targets : 13,5 , 800-850; old time line- Jan-Feb 2015. They might most likely not happen at the same time..usually silver leads.

It this does not happen I am happy as that will mean no war premium. But everything points towards war premium (real threat) as a reason for gold to switch back from downtrend.

https://www.tfmetalsreport.com/comment/623712#comment-623712

This chart now has a double FIBO - both time and value- on top of it- though I doubt the value of the value limit at 960 USD-this has never been tested. Time scale - years come out mixed from Netdania, should read +1, i.e. convergence at Jan 2015. Lets see. Timeline shows that there could be a culmination of FIBO sequence since October 2012- basically a crash with relatively swift turnoaround- a downturn spike.

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Dr. P. Metals
Nov 13, 2014 - 11:24pm

so

I guess the million dollar question is how much further can they suppress to track the yen? we all "seem" to know the cost of production, but wow....just wondering out loud. no point in answering I guess, we'll all just have to wait and see.

Nov 13, 2014 - 11:04pm

This is terrific

How much farther can the yen fall? Apparently, quite a ways: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-13/things-make-you-go-hmmm-japans...

flyinkel
Nov 13, 2014 - 9:25pm

Exactly Juzzers

What makes sense? Do we

A) Go in guns blazing and intentionally kill the supposed architect of 9/11.

or

B) Torture the heck out of him for every scrap of info. Course we would never torture anyone.

How would it really play out? Engage brains folks. Intentionally kill the mastermind without so much as a 1 minute conversation? Gads. Duped. Duped. Duped.

bookers126
Nov 13, 2014 - 9:14pm

ISIS Gold

Wonder if APMEX will be selling them.

kardnul
Nov 13, 2014 - 7:05pm

@ juzzers

........"That is simply "too stupid to be stupid" - it has bullshit written all over it. "

Says it all!

JuzzersTF
Nov 13, 2014 - 6:34pm

Two simple explanations

1. The fact that ISIS is now proposing gold and silver money means that gold and silver will be relentless associated with terrorists in the very near future. (In terms of ISIS being a CIA creation - my understanding it's beyond doubt that Western forces armed, funded and trained many of those who are now operating as "ISIS" or Islamic State)

https://www.globalresearch.ca/syria-isis-assisted-by-israel-jordan-and-t...

2. Although I haven't seen the Navy Seal piece, but the fact that the Seals killed some old guy with a beard certainly does not mean it was Osama bin Laden. Think about it: after a 10 year, multi trillion dollar campaign to supposedly capture OBL, they manage to do the job without leaving a shred of evidence whatsoever that it was actually him. That is simply "too stupid to be stupid" - it has bullshit written all over it. A constant stream of lies was being pumped out through the corporate press at the time - a classic propaganda operation.

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lakedweller2
Nov 13, 2014 - 6:30pm

Miners

Just sell to anyone but the western manipulators. Problem solved. You don't need kangaroo food in Alaska.

G-Rod
Nov 13, 2014 - 6:20pm

WRT Gold Supply

For the Miners - I keep seeing reports by CEO's and Boards that they will aim to increase production, - in the price suppressed environment.

Not too many "First Majestics" out there that are willing to withhold supply.

However - mining supply is quite inelastic, and unresponsive to the increased demand for Physical.

So I don't see the willingness of the miners to increase supply impacting the market, and GOFO rates.

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