Election Time Ebola Reality Check: CDC Admits Droplet and Doorknob Transmission

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Sat, Oct 25, 2014 - 3:00pm

That's right. Ebola can be transmitted by sneezes and doorknobs.

I simply don't get the people who are downplaying Ebola. On the one side, we have fringe conspiracy theorists who charge that the Satanic sociopaths in charge want to depopulate the planet, yet are faking the Ebola threat for some bizarre reason. On the other, we have what appear to be Democratic operatives flooding news comment sections making fun of anyone who is concerned about Ebola. (Never mind certain politicians!)

The fact that Governors Cuomo and Christie are now quarantining incoming high-risk travelers from Ebola countries in defiance of Obama tells me things are very serious.

How about we look at a very garden-variety conspiracy theory along with basic human nature? I charge:

1) Ebola caught the Obama administration with their pants down.
2) They cannot limit travel without acknowledging that the Southern border needs to be closed.
3) They need illegal votes to win.
4) They are filled with hubris and arrogance.

Please don't try to tell me that Cuomo and Christie are in on some plot to implement martial law. If that were the agenda, Obama would have cracked down more himself already. No, the agenda is to win elections no matter what the cost. The "conspiracy" is to hide the extent of the Ebola threat for political reasons.

Don't get me wrong. I am concerned when mandatory quarantines for incoming travelers are implemented, but given that Ebola is very dangerous, and even medical professionals are being very cavalier about self-quarantine, what choice do we have? Would it lead to more freedom if we just let high-risk people run amok and start a pandemic? There is no liberty in death.

What really boggles the mind are the fringe conspiracy theorists posting "EBOLA IS A HOAX!!" YouTube videos where they make fun of people dying in Africa while giggling maniacally like a pedophile serial killer. Claiming that little boys dying in the street are "crisis actors," or men with their pants off due to explosive diarrhea are faking it, makes you look like a callous idiot. At the same time, you claim the Powers That Be are trying to kill everyone...by faking an outbreak. I don't know if you are just plain stupid, crazy, or a disinfo agent, but get a grip on reality.

I've also seen a lot of smarmy commenters claiming that hysteria over Ebola is more dangerous than Ebola itself. Really? How about denying reality due to your normalcy bias is dangerous? Or living in a fantasy world where no news is actually real and everything is a hoax? That might be dangerous too.

So what to do about this? Excuse me for getting partisan here, but I'm going to agree with Michael Savage (Stop the Coming Civil War: My Savage Truth) that we have to start by kicking all the Democrats out of office (since, depending on your view, they are either taken over by "communists" or the "New World Order"). Then once they are out, make a perpetual stink with your elected officials in Town Halls and remove the RINOs in office. This is in no way an endorsement of the GOP. It's simply an acknowledgement that one party has become extremely dangerous to the point of insanity and needs to get its collective ass kicked to the curb.

So please don't tell me that voting doesn't matter, or that both parties are exactly the same. Read between the lines. Clearly one party here is working overtime on the misinformation and the lies. Clearly one party is trying to bring in a whole swath of new voters using amnesty. If your vote didn't matter, why would they need to do that? In the least, you need to send a strong message to the Obama administration that you are fed up with their lies.

Hold your nose and do what progressive Democrats do: Vote for the "lesser of two evils." If you cannot vote for the Republican, because he's a total tool like Boehner, consider voting for the Libertarian. This will still send a message.

Remember that when you vote - and please vote - in November, your very life may be at stake.

PS My opinion is mine and mine alone and is not necessarily the opinion of anyone else associated with TF Metals Report.

PPS If you post comments on my article encouraging people to stay home and "don't bother" - in other words, if you spread "give up you can't win" propaganda on my piece, you are forewarned that I may moderate. I am sick of people telling others to give up and not fight. You are part of the problem.

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Spartacus Rex
Oct 25, 2014 - 3:05pm
Dagney Taggart
Oct 25, 2014 - 3:49pm

Good one, Spartacus!

2 More Facts:

1. Ebola requires a warm, moist environment to become airborne. If it spreads here as Winter comes, it was spread indoors or modified (weaponized in a lab by psychopaths) to survive in the cold, dry air.

2. Western doctors have been coming and going from Africa for decades without contracting Ebola.

Oops. Fact 3: There are eugenicists in powerful places and their minions who advocate for most of the world's people to die off so they do not have to pay the social benefits promised to them as they age or suffer their wrath when the people find out what's been done to them in the name of saving the planet/safety/peace/insert any philanthropic BS.

That's all I have time for right now. Time to hike the Fall color.

PS. Stephanie re: PPS - You have clearly not read Sun Tzu's Art of War. Getting your enemy to exhaust themselves who are trying to get you to exhaust yourself chasing ghosts and swinging at the dirt is a time-tested, proven strategy - One of my favorites. Try it and stop hating on your first amendment.

Otherwise, what is the point of having a comments section/dialogue here?

HappyNow
Oct 25, 2014 - 4:07pm

I could have sworn there was

I could have sworn there was a thread from First Majestic around here. Did it catch fire and burn?

Yes stephanie you *can* catch Ebola if someone barfs on a doorknob (higher probability). Or has sweaty palms (way lower probability). That was always the case and I doubt that the CDC ever denied it although they may have been managing the message like everyone else and left it out of communication.

It is very difficult to transmit via sweat on doorknobs. Not impossible. Difficult. That is why it is mainly (or only, at this point) health care workers in the USA that have contracted the disease while in the USA.

Why has none of these health care workers friends/family/intimate lovers picked up the disease? Because it is difficult (not impossible) to spread until the victim is showing symptoms and even in early stages it is still somewhat difficult to spread through casual contact.

How do you quantify such a risk? Joe and Jane Average struggle to understand that winning the lottery is LESS likely than getting killed by lightning. Think about it, if you can't internalize that you are more likely to DIE from lightning than WIN the jackpot in the lottery then how are you going to deal with Ebola facts?

Regarding your well made charges.

1) I agree. Obama and the USA are guilty of provincial thinking. Ebola is NOT new and is well studied outside the USA however without the massive resources of the USA involved even well studied is...well...not enough.

2) If they attempt to limit travel people will just lie. I think that's worse. Not sure why closing the southern border is necessary or how it would be effective.

3) Illegal votes? What? Is your whole article really about illegal immigration/evil politics and not about Ebola?

4) Welcome to the USA. Why would one expect domestic policy be different than foreign policy anyway?

Oct 25, 2014 - 4:12pm

@HappyNow - HIV is much harder to catch

HIV is not spread via droplets or sweat, and condoms can prevent transmission, and yet it managed to become a major epidemic. I personally know a guy who got it when a condom broke in one act of gay sex. To presume that Ebola won't spread more in the United States because it is "difficult" to catch is a false premise. "Difficult" is not impossible, especially when you have more and more people exposed, and the exponential factor working against you.

Why has none of these health care workers friends/family/intimate lovers picked up the disease?

I honestly wonder if they did and we are being lied to about it. Be that as it may, it still does not mean we should be complacent about Ebola. They could have strong immune systems. The elderly and the sick will be the ones most vulnerable.

DeaconBenjamin
Oct 25, 2014 - 4:34pm

Quote of the day

US President Barack Obama last month included Hungary in a list of countries where "endless regulations and overt intimidation increasingly target civil society".

https://www.thelocal.no/20141023/hungary-to-press-charges-against-norweg...

Is Obama trying to be a comedian?

DeaconBenjamin
Oct 25, 2014 - 4:44pm

Drug mule left to die in Spanish airport over Ebola fears

At 5pm on Saturday October 18th, police officers in the customs area of Terminal 1 at Spain's Madrid-Barajas airport reported that a man was lying trembling on the floor.

When airport medical staff arrived, they were told by security forces the passenger was a Nigerian resident in Spain who had just arrived on a Turkish Airlines flight from Istanbul, Spanish daily El Mundo has reported.

An agent with Spain's civil guard police force had positioned the man on his side and located his personal documents to identify him.

The airport medical staff decided immediately that there was a risk that this could be a case of Ebola. It later turned out, however, that the man was suffering the effects of a cocaine overdose after several bags of the drug had burst in his stomach, airport sources told El Mundo.

A passenger who was accompanying the Nigerian told authorities that he had flown from Madrid to Istanbul on October 14th and had not made any other stops during the journey.

The airport emergency care team decided to scramble a Health Ministry service which is on call in case of infectious disease suspicions.

A team from this external emergency service arrived at the area of Terminal 1 where the patient lay 50 minutes after being called, at 6.05pm, meaning that for more than an hour the Nigerian had been kept on the floor without receiving medical treatment.

Nobody had touched the man during that time due to fears that he might have Ebola, the disease which has killed 4,877 people, almost all of whom were infected with the virus in West Africa.

The specialists found the man "unconscious with a weak pulse and suffering breathing difficulties", and at 6.30pm declared he was not an Ebola risk. They ordered the Nigerian to be taken immediately to hospital without any quarantine procedures. At 6.55pm the man died.

According to medical experts, the only way to try to save a person in such a situation is emergency surgery to remove the drug packages.

While the man was lying on the floor, airport authorities had activated special health security procedures, preventing anyone from boarding the plane the patient had travelled on previously and clearing the area through which the Nigerian had disembarked.

https://www.thelocal.es/20141024/drug-mule-left-dying-in-airport-due-to-...

AlienEyesSpartacus Rex
Oct 25, 2014 - 5:33pm

@ Spartacus Rex

Kim Kardashian v Ebola ?

As I see it, the two are about a toss-up.

HappyNow
Oct 25, 2014 - 6:33pm

Stephanie somehow we went

Stephanie somehow we went from touching doorknobs to sex with a broken condom. Spreading semen inside one's body is an excellent way to spread Ebola. I mean HIV. No, seriously I mean Ebola.

It sounds like you and I agree that difficult is not impossible and it sounds like we agree that it is a challenge to find words in the common vocabulary that will mean the same thing to people with different backgrounds and experience.

I don't presume that Ebola will not spread in the USA. It think it is highly unlikely. Even with the "stupid" factor that was such a big part of the spread of HIV. (by that I mean that people ignored the known precautions and risk).

On my list of worries drunk drivers continue to outpace Ebola by a long shot.

Kerbouchard
Oct 25, 2014 - 6:34pm

Stephanie;

While I applaud your passion for the truth in regard to the issue of Ebola, count me an agnostic. And no, I'm not putting my head in the sand and declaring it all a hoax. Far from it. But, in my opinion, it's just the latest fear du jour.

I'm not a fatalist, but I really do believe we all get what's coming to us -- "good" and "bad." You're either dead or not. You're either fatally ill or not. Without wishing to give the impression of patronizing you, by all means take precautions, but don't let the every-day narrative instill fear and panic.

I know I'm just skimming the surface, and that you are much more than a reactive writer and witness in the wheel of life as we perceive it, so I mean no disrespect for your views. And I'm always glad there's someone out there picking up the battlefield flag on so many different issues.

Perhaps my cavalier attitude is one of the perks of a fairly long life. Like Churchill once opined about history, "It's just one damn thing after another."

Putin DeSafe
Oct 25, 2014 - 6:37pm

just wondering

Did anyone read my first post in the first majestic thread. It was moderated being my first appearance on this site and i think it may have merit. If so, it may have profound effect on the silver market.

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