Ebola Insanity: Time to Pressure Airlines Directly to Stop Flights From West Africa

Fri, Oct 10, 2014 - 12:45pm

My grandfather came to the United States from Poland when he was a little boy back in the early 1900s. He was processed on Ellis Island, the original entry point for immigrants to America.

Why was Ellis Island the gateway to America? And why was it an island? Because it was a quarantine facility.

Some immigrants never made it to Ellis Island. If they were sick on the ship, they might be removed to a hospital on Hoffburn Island or Swinburne Island in New York before they even got to Ellis. Between 1909 and 1911 more than 420 immigrants died at these hospitals, with 85% being children under 13 years of age.

Unfortunately, American history has been wiped away with political correctness, and now the CDC Director is desperately trying to justify his insane policy of keeping flights from West Africa free and open to all in an editorial published on the Fox News website.

In this patronizing, condescending piece of propaganda, he tells us, among other things:

"It’s only human to want to protect ourselves and our families. We want to defend ourselves, so isn’t the fastest, easiest solution to put up a wall around the problem?

But, as has been said, for every complex problem, there’s a solution that’s quick, simple, and wrong."

Wrong? By whose metrics? He acts as if his solution - keeping all borders open and dealing with outbreaks here - is somehow less simple, more complicated, and "right."

Look at how he parses his words in this sentence:

"Stopping planes from flying from West Africa would severely limit the ability of Americans to return to the United States or of people with dual citizenship to get home, wherever that may be."

Last time I checked, "severely limit" is not the same thing as "completely ban" - there is absolutely no reason why we cannot use the military to transport legitimate humanitarian workers to and from the infected zones. There is no reason why we need commercial airlines to be the main method of transport. As for dual citizenship...what are the actual numbers of people who are both American and Liberian, and who still live in Liberia? Three? Give me a break.

He then lies outright:

"When a wildfire breaks out we don't fence it off. We go in to extinguish it before one of the random sparks sets off another outbreak somewhere else."

Mr. Friedman, I know your base constituency consists primarily of idealistic idiots, but wow...did you actually bother to read what your ignorant intern probably just wrote for you?

Firefighters don't fight wildfires by jumping into the middle of the conflagration. They couldn't possibly do that. The way wildfires are fought is precisely through "fences" aka "perimeters." This not just how wildfires are stopped, but also how they are prevented - it is why people who live in wildfire zones are instructed to prune back the forest and underbrush near their homes. That's called creating a "perimeter."

He then writes: "Isolating communities also increases people’s distrust of government, making them less likely to cooperate to help stop the spread of Ebola."

Sir, you need to read some of the forums here. Your own actions are making people distrust the government!

But the key to the newspeak lies in this sentence: "Casting too wide a net, such as invoking travel bans, would only provide an illusion of security and would lead to prejudice and stigma around those in West Africa."

Riiight. So giving native Africans visas to visit the United States isn't going to create a stigma for the native Africans already here? But this is the key talking point right now from the administration: That banning travel is racist, that people who are concerned about diseases being imported are racist, that calling Obama "Obola" is racist.

One writer for the Dallas News actually suggested that if we renamed Ebola "Omaha Virus" we'd suddenly stop being fearful. So in a nation where the richest female is a black woman with the funny name of "Oprah," and one of our top pop stars is named "Beyonce," anything with an African-sounding name is ssssscarrrryyyy?!! Gee, maybe it's the fact that Ebola has upwards of a 90% mortality rate! SMH!

I flipped on the TV yesterday and some self-righteous activist was explaining on PBS that the use of the term "illegal" to describe a person was on par with being a Nazi, because allegedly the Nazis said the Jews were "illegal." Are you kidding me? I'll bet this same activist will deny with spittle flying out of his face that Nazi ever stood for "National Socialist Worker's Party." (By the way, if you are a conservative and call someone a "Socialist," you are also a racist now.)

Now, some of you are going to criticize me for bringing up "race" again, but I'm not the one using it as a propaganda sledgehammer to silence all dissent and common sense in this country. I am frankly sick of it and would prefer not to write about it, but they are the ones that keep bringing it up for every big (or manufactured) issue.

What my main point, actually, is this: WHY are these insane people in charge? Why are they the ones pushing the media narrative? And how can we stop them?

I'll tell you why. Well, at least part of the reason why.

Most normal, average, every day people aren't activists. They aren't spending their days protesting, or organizing boycotts, or writing angry letters to advertisers to try to shut down an opposing viewpoint.

Rush Limbaugh (love him or hate him) has been under siege by a group of approximately 10 activists who had so much time on their hands, they appeared to represent millions. These activists have been relentlessly targeting his advertisers in an attempt to shut down his radio show.

The far left in America has organized. It has outlets like MoveOn that rally the troups to stir up a mob with pitchforks at the drop of a hat.

Where's the MoveOn for moderates? For conservatives? Or even libertarians?

Most sane Americans think it's reasonable policy - and not racist - to stop giving visas to native West Africans right now because it's not worth the risk to infect Americans with a deadly virus. Most sane Americans realize that open borders also put us at risk for Central American diseases, and it is not a coincidence that over 500 children have been paralyzed and at least 5 have died from the enterovirus most likely brought in by "undocumented" children shipped into American communities over the summer.

Where is the mob with pitchforks over this? Oh, there are a few petitions on Whitehouse.gov to stop flights from West Africa, but even a lot of people who agree with them aren't bothering to sign them, because they feel they won't do any good, or they are afraid they will be put into a database (hint: you already are in the database!).

I do agree on one point - trying to get political ideologues to do something about this is probably not going to help. However, we can take a cue from the frothing-at-the-mouth mob activists and start hitting people where it counts - their pocketbooks.

It's an issue that left and right can agree upon (mostly): Airline workers in New York have already started striking over the possibility of being exposed to Ebola when they clean planes. I will be curious to see airline unions end up taking the side of the workers or get pressured by the administration to stop these protests.

So what can we do? We should be contacting the airlines directly and telling them they need to stop flights from West Africa. People are already starting to contact the airlines; we just need more of it. I've seen quite a few people mention in online comments that they have canceled their plane tickets due to fear of being exposed to Ebola. The holidays are coming up. Can you drive instead of fly? I usually fly to see family but I am currently debating whether I am going to drive or just stay home this year.

Yes, the economy might take a little hit if airlines are boycotted. But the economy could collapse entirely if Ebola takes hold in the United States.

Take a cue from the crazy ideologues - it's time to get the pitchforks going.

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Oct 10, 2014 - 12:47pm

and here we are

Where does one start to make sense of all this?

Oct 10, 2014 - 1:01pm

@Hawkmen - that's why the airlines need to be pressured

I think it all comes down to economics.

Yes, so if the airlines find out that keeping those flights open is going to cost them a lot of money, they will stop them. It's that simple.

Oct 10, 2014 - 1:02pm
Oct 10, 2014 - 1:02pm

Why are we even still talking

Why are we even still talking about this?

To date no one has been able to construct a cogent argument as to why these airways are still open...at least one that they are willing to admit.

British Airways and Air France have shut down flights as have others. Sadly I think it all comes down to economics and even worse, political correctness.

I read an article yesterday entitled "The implicit racism in Ebola tragedy"...by God it sure didn't take them long to play the race card did it?

If you want to see where the motivation to keep our borders wide open and unsecured comes from, grab your air sickness bag and head on over to CNN...https://www.cnn.com/2014/10/09/opinion/wright-ebola-racism/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Oct 10, 2014 - 1:13pm

Great Idea, Stephanie.

The populous has lost control of it's government. Reaching out, around the government controls, to the power who are still financially driven is a great idea. Burn up their Customer Service lines and be sure to tell them that if they don't immediately comply, you will never use their airline again.


Oct 10, 2014 - 1:15pm


I can recall several overeseas flights, where the cabin air became increasingly stale as the flight wore on, and after my arrival I would come down with cold symptoms the next day. The fatigue of travel makes one more susceptible. The human proximity in travel makes illness easily transferred--especiall those transferred by aerosol or surface contact.

How many of you have traveled by bus in a 3rd world country, packed in like sardines on a bus to the airport. And I don't seem to recall taxi drivers wiping down their cab seats with Lysol after each fare exits, before the next one enters.

I suppose all the people landing in another airport after flying out of west Africa simply get in the airport lines for passport checks, staying within a couple of feet of all the other travelers.

So if you are traveling this week and people are getting in your way, simply sneeze and watch them clear out so you can pass.

Mr. Fix
Oct 10, 2014 - 1:17pm

Excellent commentary Stephanie:

Has anyone considered the possibility that the airlines are still flying to West Africa due to either government subsidies, or much more likely, under threat of heavy penalties, rather than free market forces?

I'm all for pressuring anyone to do the right thing, but until we know who paid for Thomas Duncan's ticket, it is a mute point.

There isn't an overwhelming clamor to fly to Western Africa, and the people that are already there get paid pennies a day if anything.

It is already economically unfeasible to fly daily into West Africa, and yet,

the Obama administration will make damn sure it happens uninterrupted.

We are past the point of a letter writing campaign accomplishing anything.

Oct 10, 2014 - 1:22pm

Again, my tin-foil hat arrives on the scene . . .

The way I see it, the flights need to continue so that the CDC can say the virus infecting Americans came from Africa.

Who is to say that the shadow government, which owns and controls the real government, isn't infecting people through ways unknown and as yet, unseen?

They need for the flights to provide them cover; you know, "plausible deniability."

Oct 10, 2014 - 1:31pm

@ancientmoney - you may be right

Go read some of the comments on that article I linked to re: the deaths from enterovirus. The "talking point" is that it came from Europe, not from Central America! Never mind that we have not had a massive influx of sick children from Europe coming into the country.

Oct 10, 2014 - 1:32pm

@Fix - I disagree with your learned helplessness

Stop assuming they've already won. When you do that, you let them win.

Mr. Fix
Oct 10, 2014 - 1:34pm

Ancientmoney just nailed it!

It is all about plausible deniability, once you know that this pandemic is already planned for, and absolutely nothing will be left to “chance”, keeping those flights going until after a “medical martial law” has been implemented, it is required only to create the perception that it came from somewhere else.

This pandemic is a bio weapon of mass destruction, engineered within the United States, and launched in Africa for the sole purpose of supporting a narrative that says “it came from over there”.

These people who would release a deadly pandemic in Africa are just as capable of releasing it in America, and it is highly likely that that is exactly what is happening right now.

In a few weeks from now, there will be no way to trace this epidemic back to Africa, and it won't even matter.

But for now, you've got to get the story straight.

PS, when all else fails, blame it on God.

That is definitely part of their plan.

Can't Happen Here
Oct 10, 2014 - 1:38pm

The New Lumpenproletariat

In many ways this is the result of the unfettered immigration (read: invasion) and open borders policy which began with the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965


thus beginning the creation of The Balkanized States of America. The Ebola is just icing on the manure cake served up by our oligarch class.

These folks streaming across our virtually nonexistent borders are the new Lumpenproletariat aka the "shock troops" of cultural revolution.


Mr. Fix
Oct 10, 2014 - 1:45pm

Learned helplessness? Now there is an absurd notion!

Remember me?

I am the one who went to the trouble to post a boatload of evidence that not only is this plague completely contrived, but unlike the official version, it is not only treatable, but curable, and preventable. I am not the least bit worried for myself.

I have absolutely no intentions of “hunkering down in my bunker", until this pandemic has created a panic situation which will make going out in public dangerous for reasons other than biological.

(Roving hordes of zombies and government agencies should be avoided).

According to the most recent podcast Turd did with David Morgan, according to his doctor, I am already immune to Ebola.

According to much evidence which has been shared on various forums, there are many treatments, and many ways to boost your own immunity to make yourself impervious to this pandemic, which is completely contrary to the official narrative.

The government wants you to believe you are helpless.

I have the polar opposite point of view!

You must have me confused with somebody else.

Oct 10, 2014 - 1:46pm

Petition links

There are any number of petitions to implement a flight ban/restriction.

I posted these links on Sunday on one of the Ebola threads. Please consider signing:

Apparently, there are multiple petitions regarding flight bans.

here are the ones I could find. Please consider signing any or all of them.






Dagney Taggart
Oct 10, 2014 - 1:53pm

Don't Waste Your Time With This

What part of "You are a useless eater" do you not understand, Stephanie?

The people who head American and United Airlines were complicit in 911. Do you think for a second they care about you or what you want?

Those who head the WHO, US CDC and DHS are politicians engaged in herd management. Every time they demonstrate their incompetence, they are not fired or go to prison, as they would in a sane and logical rule-of-law society. They get MORE POWER and MONEY. So what is their incentive to helping you or stopping bad things from happening? Nothing.

Resources are dwindling and America cannot afford to pay its false campaign and social promises. The elite want you dead so they can have what's left of the resources and not have to pay you a dollar.

Again, what part of this do you not understand?

A piece of advice from my American-born father to any American reading this: You better use your gun before the end. This is a fight to the death. Get a f*cking clue!


Oct 10, 2014 - 1:54pm

@Dagney - and that changes my suggestion how?

If what you said is true, then that is even more reason to tell American and United you aren't buying airline tickets from them. Are you telling me that those companies would still exist with no customers? I get the concept of dead people voting but dead people flying? Maybe they will put already dead people into the seats like they did on Lost to make it look like they have customers?

Oct 10, 2014 - 2:02pm

Just keep the presses rolling

Bailouts for the airlines.....because closing the border and halting flights from infected countries is not in TPTB game plan....nor in the givememorement game plan that feeds off of the public......remember you did not build that..... Next thing..."money" has no prescribed cleaning method for ebola ....cash/coins/currency....cashless society?

Oct 10, 2014 - 2:13pm

There Goes My 5th Food Group

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-10/ebola-s-next-stop-may-be-ivory... "Cocoa futures have climbed amid concern Ebola might spill into Ivory Coast, the world’s biggest grower of the bean".

Oct 10, 2014 - 2:19pm

The conspiracy community is its own worst enemy

BTW, in response to this: "Every time they demonstrate their incompetence, they are not fired or go to prison, as they would in a sane and logical rule-of-law society."

Yeah, why is that? Is it in part due to the fact that they have an army of people to go make a stink on their behalf through bought-and-paid-for organizations like MoveOn, while the rest of us are mostly silent?

So when someone such as myself makes the suggestion that the "Silent Majority" starts a simple protest or boycott, what do you do? Instead of encouraging people to get involved, you lambaste folks like myself, call us dumb "sheeple" for daring to suggest something so mundane as an airline protest, and act as if we're the clueless morons for trying to take some sort of small stand against tyranny.

So I guess if it doesn't involve an outright revolt with guns a'blazin', the action is worthless?

What's it to you if people such as myself want to write an email to United Airlines asking them to stop the flights? Why are you so opposed to that?

Instead of fighting the people you need to be fighting, you're busy here on a bulletin board slamming me for coming up with a practical idea.

You don't provide any good reason why the airlines wouldn't respond to simple dollars and sense.

I'm providing one idea to try to make a difference. Instead of wasting your energy and mine slamming me for it, why don't you come up with something more productive?

Quit fighting the people who are on your own side! This is what the "elites" want!

And you think I'm being stupid and ignorant here? Holy cow, you are playing into their hands! They LOVE it when the conspiracy community throws its hands up and says "don't bother."


PS I totally expected this response from some people here on TFMR. I just wish you folks would be less predictable.

Oct 10, 2014 - 2:25pm

@Dagney - Why is the CDC Director writing editorials?

Seriously? If it's a done deal, and it doesn't matter what we do, then why does the CDC Director even bother to manage perception?

And this is why it is so bloody easy to fool the herd: YOU DO NOT THINK LIKE WE THINK

Oh wait...you're now one of the elite? So I should trust you and take your advice...why? How do we know you're not here to encourage us to give up?

Be careful: You're becoming a caricature of yourself. (And I have defended you strongly in the past!)

Oct 10, 2014 - 2:25pm
Dagney Taggart
Oct 10, 2014 - 2:28pm


Those making decisions at the airlines get paid 10's of millions per year and have 2nd lives waiting in the wings in other countries. Have you ever heard of the "Golden Parachute"? They already have more money than they can spend in 10 lifetimes. They already own and have alliances with companies around the world that ensure their survival in multiple countries beyond the survival of some dinky airline. They fly private anyway.

In short: They do not care if the airline dies. What is the REAL penalty for them if they airline dies anyway? Nothing.

It's easy for people like me to see how this really works since, I too, come from a family that has more money than we can spend in 10 lifetimes. The only difference between my family and them is that WE CREATE. And this is why it is so bloody easy to fool the herd: YOU DO NOT THINK LIKE WE THINK. NOR CAN YOU GENERALLY COMPREHEND THE EVIL THAT THE ELITE ARE CAPABLE OF INFLICTING ON YOU WITHOUT YOU EVEN KNOWING OR BELIEVING IT.

Go ahead and waste your time if it makes you feel better. It won't do much else.

PS. LOL. In predictable fashion, you pull the "Conspiracy community" card in defense of your ego. Oh well. It's not my death. At the end of the day I can still afford to ignore and avoid the consequences of your ignorance and misguided beliefs.

Oct 10, 2014 - 2:33pm


Do you really believe there is a difference between your family and "them"? Assuming of course it is true what you claim about your family wealth (and remember, there is wealth and then there is WEALTH - I suspect you are part of the former at best).

Regardless, it seems to me that if you are not part of the solution, you most certainly are part of the problem, whether you acknowledge it or not.

Recall Mark 10:25

Dagney Taggart
Oct 10, 2014 - 2:34pm


It's called the Appearance of Due Diligence.

Are you really this naive?

I'm not one of the elite. Simply put, I'm just skilled enough and wealthy enough to have the ability to ignore both the elites and serfs and watch you both try to destroy each other.

Nobody is encouraging you to give up. Just don't waste your time and energy with something that doesn't matter.

Oct 10, 2014 - 2:34pm

@Dagney - sorry, no, that doesn't answer my question

It's called the Appearance of Due Diligence.

I'm naive? Are you really this incapable of basic logic?

I asked: Why does the CDC Director even bother to manage perception?

You answered:

It's called the Appearance of Due Diligence.

Which is basically answering my question by responding:

The reason he's managing perception is because he needs to manage perception.

Let me ask you again: WHY does he need to manage perception, if it's a done deal, and nothing we do matters, and their plan cannot be derailed in any fashion?

Oct 10, 2014 - 2:41pm
Dagney Taggart
Oct 10, 2014 - 2:45pm


Writing editorials is a preferred form of public relations BS to give the appearance of due diligence and buy time for other matters.

It obviously works.

I'm done wasting time on this topic. Do what makes you feel good, Stephanie. Cris: Please piss off with your black and white George Bush perspective of the world. It really makes me want to hurl. Matt 15:14.

Oct 10, 2014 - 2:47pm

@Hawkman Re: Why are we even still talking about this?

You wrote above "To date no one has been able to construct a cogent argument as to why these airways are still open...at least one that they are willing to admit."

I was baffled and down right pissed off when I read that the CDC Director claimed that "It would be counterproductive" to suspend air travel to afflicted countries in North Africa from the U.S. I was unable to find any rationale for that beyond some possibility that it would impede relief workers from getting there. UNBELIEVABLE! Has the U.S. AIR FORCE RUN OUT OF PLANES!!?

Hawkman infometron
Oct 10, 2014 - 2:58pm

@Infometron - It defies logic

@Infometron - It defies logic and reason, I agree.

And so the 'emergency' begins. Hang on to your copy of the Constitution, you may need it...


Oct 10, 2014 - 3:02pm

There's certain inheranet risks.

Catching Ebola on a flight is not one of them ... especially when the operators of the airlines are aware of the risks. Can a lawsuit by an infected passenger be brought against the airline who chose to ignore the risk in light of the warnings?


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