Corporate Asset Stripping, Empires, Leadership and Hidden Organization

Sun, Feb 23, 2014 - 9:00am

In politics, it is said, nothing happens by coincidence. Not to say there are not lots of coincidences, there are, but where things matter, someone has always taken care (ahead of the fact) to remove the element of luck from the outcome.

So when I invest and trade I look at coincidences in a different kind of way. Cui bono, or who benefits, is a good guide to forming better judgment. If , say, a high ranking politician is caught in corruption, his exit creates a vacancy which is soon filled by the next winner, and suspicion for the unveiling of the ex-boss’s activities falls naturally upon the successor.

But that approach of looking towards the beneficiary of events may fall foul of a deliberately placed misleading trail of breadcrumbs. After all people get framed for things they did not do. Therefore a strategy must be used to take account of this tendency. Underneath the layer of reasoning which is Cui bono? This sub-layer of reasoning is who benefits from the first loser’s move down the ladder of life and power, and the move up of the successor? Our search has now gotten to the second derivative, the one who benefits from the new good fortune of the one who benefits. And so it goes down the line.

But for the one who loses, the opposite occurs. That leader’s courtiers and backers suffer a loss of power and influence, and wealth as their prize fighter drops to a lower league.

Did I just say prize fighter?

That’s interesting because a prize fighter has a team behind him. He represents others outside the ring. There is the fighter of course. There is a trainer or coach, a business agent, a promoter or media person to manage the fans and generation of fame. There must also be a medical advisor, and we could expect a financial backer too.

That’s for a prize fighter, but behind a Formula One driver there would be a similar backing force. If the prize fighter was a regiment of armed forces, then each “person” previously identified would become a department, or a group of many hundreds of individuals doing that function.

Even in "Star Trek" there was Captain Kirk the leader, intelligence dept Mr Spock, "Bones" the Medical Doctor, "Scotty" the skilled engineer, Sulu the skilled pilot , also Uhura the navigation and communications expert ... and they were all serving the commands of "The Federation" You get it. This pyramid structure is a universal thing, present in unique forms within all of society, but also present in the same but smaller form in local society. It’s a self similar fractal form that goes with human activity in all places, sizes, and times.

If that’s so, then what about the gold market?

What indeed? Let’s just have a look.

Out on the frontier there are the miners, like pathfinder squadrons of scouts, suffering losses and making them good and persevering on.

For the advisory function we see suitable people-corporations with specialist expertise: there are the geologists, engineers, and transport logistics people.

There are other expert functions. The freshly mined gold has a big industrial complex of its own. Refiners refine it, security firms carry and store it. There is an insurance industry which borders upon the financial side of things, but I’ll call it a storage partner for the moment. Also, there are skilled fabricators of beautiful jewellery desired and subsequently bought by end users the world over ... the prize fighter’s “fans” of the above simplified example.

For the sales of gold we can see financial advisors, jewellery shops, and a whole marketing industry to place desirable images of the beautiful end product, and creating psychological ideas of the success and desirability of those who own and-or wear it.

So who benefits from gold? Well, I guess everybody to a greater or lesser degree.

But does anybody benefit more than the others?

Well in every field of human endeavour, in which great teams are employed, someone usually benefits more than the others. It is not always the one visible at the top of the fame pyramid. It is more likely to be the one at the top of the organizational pyramid, which could be a less visible pyramid than the other one.

So in the case of a great war, the emperor or king who lead the winning army might be the accredited winner. But we know better. We know that inside the apparatus of that emperor or king’s army, or court, or state, someone else might have done very well out it the victory too. We know who the losers are ... the leadership of the defeated country, and the worst losers are the frontline operatives of the defeated state.

I just said “state”. Is the “state” the ultimate winner? Well you might say so. I mean, in Roman times, the occupied countries were essentially enslaved, conscripted, and their resources, like eg silver mine output were asset stripped. And the Roman emperor, whoever he was at the time, certainly he had a high standard of living. But so did his court, all those Roman senators and their families. They lived like kings too. How did the Roman soldiers do. My understanding is they did fine, given their station in the organizational structure. They were paid, clothed and fed. They certainly did a lot better than their colleague soldiery working for the opposing countries which Rome defeated and subsequently occupied.

Let’s also consider the average Roman citizen. They paid taxes which apparently rose as time went by, and at the end they apparently welcomed in the armies which ultimately broke the Roman Empire, so high and onerous had the taxes gotten by then. But it could be said that for several hundred years, the average Roman citizen did ok, and a lot bit better than the “citizenry” of the countries which faced up to the might of Rome, but lost.

All that sounds so similar to life on planet Earth today with the elevated living standards of the west vs the east I could get distracted from my point very easily, but let’s move onwards and follow this line of thought a little more.

The ultimate winners (during the Roman Empire) were concentrated at the top of the organization, but the whole organization did ok, and better than those it defeated. Can we identify anyone who did “best” out of the whole thing? That’s not all that clear from history. If anyone did better than the leadership, lack of records indicates they must have deliberately kept a low profile. One can look at who owned land, large buildings, was educated, etc for clues.

As an aside, did you know that in the days of Rome, the bankers also were tasked with collecting taxes for the state?

Another aside: the modern corporate takeovers and asset stripping of victim businesses, saddling them with debt, removing assets, and imposition of unjust and crazy management fees, is almost exactly the same business model as the Roman takeover-enslavement of victim occupied territories and their populations.

The Ultimate Winner is the Last Man Standing

This is an interesting principle to apply to the history of human society, both archaic and recent. Actually if history is sufficiently recent, we could call it today’s news, couldn’t we?

So let’s look at the last man standing from a power-wealth point of view. Well the personality, or the political leader, who always does very well at the top of their pyramid, well that individual or their court do very badly if another conquering heroic power displaced them. So Napoleon ended up exiled to an island, but it could have been worse. It was much worse for Louis XIV and for the Romanov family and Julius Caesar! A lot of the Roman leadership were assassinated to end their reign. Saddam Hussein and Muammar Ghaddafi ended up badly. As did Kennedy, Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, Kind Abdullah of Jordan, Anwar Sadat of Egypt, Mohandas & Indira Gandhi of India, Mohammad Ali Rajai of Iran, Yitzhak Rabin of Isreal, Benazir Bhutto of Pakistan, I could go on. Have a look here and see how long the list is:

Now I'd be the first to agree that if you looked at a list of the unfortunates who served in the armies of the ages, that list of those who died there would be endless.

So we could co-opt popular phrases to describe the realpolitik situation:“It’s Cool To Be The King” but at the same time “It’s Tough At The Top”! And it might be sensible to add “It’s worse at the bottom”. The little countries which were unfortunately geographically located close to imperialist countries seem to have had the worst deal of all down the ages. "Check out the neighbours before buying a new house" might be a bit smartass for those countries which were serially invaded, but it has a certain truth to it.

So looking at it all this way a certain pecking order emerges, which was always there, I’m merely highlighting it from a certain narrow viewpoint today.

But I have a feeling that the concepts embodied in the phrase “The Ultimate Winner is the Last Man Standing” have not yet been exhausted.

For instance: What about the groups or people who preserve their assets as one empire or king or leader goes down, and have such a base of wealth and power to capture a favoured place in the new regime or leader or empire? Now that would be a great thing to do, wouldn’t it?

So how about we modify that “last man standing” thing slightly? There are many ways to put this, each with their own nuances. How about: “the organizational niche that continues after the old organization is gone”. Yes. How about that?

Let’s see ... after an empire fails, first, who is still standing? ... Yes. But secondly, and more importantly, ... of those who are still standing after a regime change .. which of them still retain their assets? That is success through time!

Well the Roman Catholic Church once controlled empires, via their kings and queens, and it’s still there. So it's pretty good at trans-regime continuity. The Knights Templar lasted through many regimes and centuries until King Philip decided he wanted their money more than they did, and could take it too. That was a terminal event for the lives of many of the Templars. They had a religious-banking model. Come to think of it, the Vatican is into banking too. The Romans adopted Christianity, and they lasted a long time. They had a Christian-capitalist-military business model. It would appear that a combination of autocratic military backed political leadership, together with a belief system, produces a bridge from regime to the next regime, which gets used by a capitalist inner hard core group near to organizational top, but it's not the actual public leadership who are sacrificial in extreme circumstances.

The Templars came close to lasting, but didn't make it to the present day. The Vatican did better, it’s still there. And when I look around the globe, without mentioning names, I see several global forces which embody a belief system for the masses with a banking business model near the top but not at it with a royalty or elected alternative or revolving political dual dynasty. Even the places of the world who oppose most energetically the powers of the dominant west, seem to have a similar setup. Just a different one.

Getting back to gold .....

The last man standing, the one who bridges the gap at regimes’ ending and keeps his wealth, the one with a belief system present to provide moderate control when other controls of the masses fail ... belief systems keep the masses in check during transition. So managers of beliefs, like eg religious organizations are a bit better at keeping their gold for the next round when a new prize fighter is prepared for “giving his all” to succeed. Many rulers, Pharoahs, UK Kings identified themselves either as deities, the descendents of deities, or appointed themselves the head of the church for this reason: the consolidation of belief system power with their other powers, internal power of law, and military force both internal and external.

So if we look around at who has the gold today we should see who these people or entities or dynasties are. Right? Wrong! For some reason we only can account for about 10% of global gold holdings. It's in the hands of states. The rest of the world’s mined gold is gone, or lost, or hidden from sight. And that reminds me of what happened to the Templars when King Philip’s debts got too high, they were tortured and murdered. Why tortured? Well I’m sure they had their gold hidden from sight back then too, but Philip wanted it. So it was about the gold, not the beliefs. And belief systems don't work on leaders. He didn't torture them for beliefs, it was for information I'll bet. More recently Gaddafi in Lybia had gold, and a couple of other recently invaded countries too. The 90% of the world’s gold is owned by somebody, and they have learned well from history what could happen to them.

And now the world is again in debt. For some reason the Vatican and Italian banking system are under the magnifying glass of various government regulatory authorities. If this continues the attentions of the political leadership, who are ultimately more vulnerable than the obscure organizational leaders behind will fall upon other old institutions which have lasted through several regime changes, or centuries. Any which controlled armies in the distant past and are till around today will be having thoughts like the Templars had.

And for that reason the world is arriving at an unusual time and place. New leaders must look with a critical and greedy eye upon the older order that backed them or their political opponents, looking for a way to fill rapidly emptying coffers. Without their paid thugs and military they are prey to other leaders. So who controls the military during such times matters a lot. They will tax business out of business to pay their military, though it appears insane to people in business. When the money begins to run out, the gangster-partners begin to fight for control of what remains. It's just like a high society marraige after the money begins to reduce.

And long term war cycles have bottomed and are on the rise again. It’s just my humble view, and it’s a gradual rise. But looking around I see many reasons that appear to confirm this thought. But when you get down to the bottom of it all, it will be another war for assets to strip and thereby allow the emerging top dog robber barons of the present century to stay rich and in power. That means oil/energy and gold, the resource assets par excellence. But all other resources are good too. All business leaders want more assets. It’s an insatiable need. The debts can however crystallize their needs into a more immediate type of strategy. And debts are currently high. Therefore arrests, charges, dissolution and seizure of old money goes onto the table for consideration as possible strategies.

One of the best spectator sports we the people get to see these days is when high society ex-partners have a falling out, and their dirty laundry becomes exposed. I suggest that this time of change goes several steps further than your average celebrity divorce.

So stand back and soon you’ll get to watch some really serious heavy hitting players in action. It will be amazing to watch it live, and it will be played over months and years. The falling out has already started in some countries. This is not a contest to be in the middle of. Try to not work or live at the frontline of the losing leaders' organizational pyramid.

Enjoy the weekend.


Argentus Maximus

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Feb 23, 2014 - 9:03am

What a pleasant surprise

Now for a cup of coffee and to settle into some good sunday morning reading.

Feb 23, 2014 - 9:10am

Dr J: Nice job earlier! AM

Dr J: Nice job earlier! AM

Feb 23, 2014 - 9:25am


and 5 minutes to gold



2c piece
Feb 23, 2014 - 9:31am


2nd, Very nice overview. It also looks like there can be an internal falling out at the top with some of the minions leaving the game. With one so eager to leave he killed himself with a nail gun - shooting 8 nails into his body.

Feb 23, 2014 - 9:41am

Gold recovers on fresh buying, global cues

NEW DELHI: Gold prices recovered by Rs 40 to Rs 31,190 per ten gram in the national capital today on fresh buying by stockists, influenced by a firm global trend. Silver also rose by Rs 210 to Rs 47,760 per kg on increased offtake by industrial units and coin makers. Traders said fresh buying by stockists for the ongoing marriage season amid a firm global trend boosted the sentiment. A decline in US home sales revived concern that the economy is weaker than forecast, spurring demand for the metal as a haven asset. Gold in New York, which normally sets price trend on the domestic front, rose by 0.5 per cent to USD 1,323.60 an ounce and silver by 0.5 per cent to USD 21.81 an ounce. On the domestic front, gold of 99.9 and 99.5 per cent purity recovered by Rs 40 each to Rs 31,190 and Rs 30,990 per ten gram, respectively. It had lost Rs 100 yesterday. Sovereign continued to be asked at last level of Rs 25,400 per piece of eight gram.

Feb 23, 2014 - 9:42am
Feb 23, 2014 - 10:39am

Good article, particularly

Good article, particularly the part about continuity across regime change. You don't have to be the Vatican--for example, many, many "little people" managed to make it through the the Nazi horrors, with their estates basically intact, to live another day. That is the task every person faces, going into the cycle you describe.

Re the Cycle of War, Armstrong has been all over that for months.

Feb 23, 2014 - 11:05am

Feb 23, 2014 - 11:07am

You've got me thinking this morning...


Your post reminded me this morning of an article by a French philosopher (an atheist converted to Catholicism at age 60 –according to my Religion professor at Syracuse) named Rene Girard.

According to Girard, humanity suffers from what he calls mimesis—an inherent desire to have what someone else has. It is the root word for “mimic” in English. Out of mimetic desire comes jealousy that can eventually turn murderous. As one member of a community prospers, becomes wealthy, honored, respected, the mimetic impulse kicks in and the members of the community reason that this person must have come by their wealth unethically and they don’t deserve it. The crowd turns against that person, accuses them of a crime (often falsely) and condemns them to death. Afterwards, the community distributes their wealth among them--some more than others, no doubt. And that is where I see a connection with what you explain about cui bono.

Girard explains that by turning against the prosperous individual, the community comes together and thus finds a balance between the forces of mimesis/selfishness and the need for community survival. Literally the death of one unites the murderers and holds the community together—for a while, then the process starts again. Evolving out of this mimetic impulse has come “religion” and the practice of human sacrifice. Eventually, the human part was substituted by animals, and eventually substituted by some for of symbolic financial sacrifice.

Girard traces the practice through multiple myths and religions. The key is that the entire mechanism remains hidden—buried in the subconscious and expressed only symbolically—until the point of community sanctioned murder. and we still take great delight in the fall of some wealthy pop culture icon like Justin Bieber, though we don't split out his wealth among us (except for the lawyers and bankers). But Girard pauses with Christianity, showing how the mimetic mechanism was exposed and emasculated through the resurrection of Jesus. But I’ll leave the religious side of this for others to explore. Here is a link to Girard’s most cogent article on the subject.

But it makes perfect sense that someone benefits the most--probably the old banking families, and that this someone (or an entity) stealthily encourages the process, skimming all they can get with each cycle, and taking great care to remain hidden, from generation to generation, lest the mimetic mechanism turn on them.

Today, the middle-classes of the world are being driven to the altar of sacrifice at the spear point of the fascists and socialists who want to share that wealth. But no doubt, the poor will not really share in that bounty, only the uber-wealthy.

Just thinking this morning—and that is why I love to peruse the posts here.

Feb 23, 2014 - 11:27am

groundhog day?

if we get a new crimean war, do we get a new flashman?

tenth! is valla (pictured above) a ten?
Feb 23, 2014 - 12:01pm

Those who control the food & water...

control all life on this planet as we know it!...This is so important...please listen...before it gets scrubbed!!!...

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Bag Of Gold

John Galt
Feb 23, 2014 - 12:14pm

Riots, Reserves & Dwindling Supply of Gold

The consensus on this board is that gold supplies are rapidly drying up as physical bullion continues to shift from West to East.

In this context I find it more than a little coincidental to take a look at where the riots are happening in the world, in relation to how much gold tonnage belongs to each of these jurisdictions:

Ukraine - 36.1 Tonnes

Venezuela - 365.8 Tonnes

Thailand - 152.4 Tonnes

Indonesia - 75.9 Tonnes

Brazil - 67.2 Tonnes

Argentina - 61.7 Tonnes

(the tonnage totals are the official figures, which do not take private holdings and unofficial reserves into account).

Perhaps the riots and political turmoil are also designed to keep the rehypothecation of physical bullion going, to keep the flow of shiny moving.

John Galt
Feb 23, 2014 - 12:17pm

Congrats to Canada's Men's Hockey Team Winning Gold

Those medals have probably doubled the size of what's left of Canada's official gold reserves.

Feb 23, 2014 - 12:30pm

Canada's gold reserves

If anyone owns 3 oz of gold they have triple the official reserves unfortunately. Thanks Brian Mulroney, I guess he decided "deep storage gold" was best for Canada


Feb 23, 2014 - 12:35pm

Great Post, Thank You

I enjoyed that post thoroughly. It is this kind of insight and knowledge that make this place so special.

Thank you again for such an insightful post.

John Galt
Feb 23, 2014 - 12:40pm

@ Silver66

Of course, Eric Sprott has a huge pile of shiny stored with the RCM, which has yet to be rehypothecated. You know, for national emergency and that sort of thing.

Feb 23, 2014 - 1:06pm

Very thought provoking

Thanks for the write up a.m.

This does give us a reason for better positioning than the average Joe will ever understand!!!

Nick Elway
Feb 23, 2014 - 2:20pm

Thanks AM..neo-feudalism

Continuity across regime change AND dynastic continuity across generations.

TPTB ..they've given up family fame (known-to-be-ruling families can lose their heads ) in a move to preserve family fortune and power.

Our neo-feudal royalty prefers to stay behind the scenes.

Sound Money Minnow
Feb 23, 2014 - 2:50pm

It's good to be King if just for awhile.

Don't know if anyone posted this, but it certainly fits the subject. Great writing Argentus Maximus.

Tom Petty - It's Good To Be King
Might have to cut and paste this, but its worth the view.

Texas Sandman
Feb 23, 2014 - 2:50pm

Next stop $25 silver... All aboard!!!

If we break there, measured move target becomes $32 (distance from low to midpoint of the "W" added to that midpoint). Now two consecutive weekly closes above both the declining trend line and 200 day MA.

Urban Roman
Feb 23, 2014 - 2:52pm

Speaking of religions, I have

Speaking of religions, I have a lot of respect for the Jews -- they have maintained a tribal identity and carried on for millenia. But I hope this remark doesn't start an acrimonious debate. The country of Israel won't last long if it doesn't have the USA to support it, but the religion will carry on, of that I have little no doubt. It has survived much worse ages than the current one.

As for power structures in human social organizations, this was a good essay, a.m. -- nations, states, parties, corporations, banks, religions, social clubs -- the dynamics of political power are pretty much universal.

Of course, as the current empire and the current civil religion of Progress (thanks JMG) fade, the most important dynamic (in my view) is the tension between the local and the centralized. The big organizations, from the imperial power centers, want to centralize control over everything -- energy, food supplies, transportation, etc., to increase their power and authority. On the other hand they want their subjects, and potential competitors for corner offices, to remain local and isolated. And that's essentially the entire story.

That and the fact that human social dynamics tend to become less productive/stable in groups of more than about 150. Humans are intrinsically tribal; they are not social in the sense, or to the extent, of fire ant colonies.

Feb 23, 2014 - 3:00pm

It's a video summary of an

It's a 10 minute video summary of an hour long talk:

American Empire VS Roman Empire : monetary history repeats itself

An elaboration of the contest between the Roman elite + enforcer classes and the Roman middle + merchant + lower classes, which is quite interesting and has a similar context. It is lacking in a discussion of what the most creative non elite people did to survive. But as I noted in the article, all the historical record I am aware of is lacking in this.

That's the biggest problem. There is no accredited source to provide information to us about the best thing to do in the circumstance we find ourselves in..

Our forum here (at TFMR) would appear to be a modern day reaction by "the middle people" to try to deal with our perceived need to remedy the problems caused by the absence of this specialized information in official sources, libraries, historical records, education establishments we attended, and so on.

Louie dgstage
Feb 23, 2014 - 3:12pm

@dgstage- Iran has the bomb

This is a great article, and extremely accurate from my POV.

Ever wonder why President Obama gave away the store to the Iranians during recent "negotiations", and got nothing in return? Here is your answer:

Preppers should also read up on the 12th imam mentioned in the article.

Feb 23, 2014 - 3:33pm


The US Gov is setting Iran up as the scapegoat when the next false flag (EMP) attack occurs.

DeaconBenjamin Doctor J
Feb 23, 2014 - 3:43pm

A variant on mimesis

As one member of a community prospers, becomes wealthy, honored, respected, the mimetic impulse kicks in and the members of the community reason that this person must have come by their wealth unethically and they don’t deserve it. The crowd turns against that person, accuses them of a crime (often falsely) and condemns them to death. Afterwards, the community distributes their wealth among them--some more than others, no doubt.

I am reminded of the process for selecting judges in Edinburgh in the mid 18th century. Judges were chosen by the local bar -- the attorneys would select the most successful attorney to serve on the bench, with an eye to claiming a piece of the successful practice.

On the whole, I would rather serve as a judge than be executed.

Louie Marblesonac
Feb 23, 2014 - 4:05pm

Iranian Scapegoats

I am not so sure of that. The religious Iranians I have had contact with seem to be genuine believers.

Feb 23, 2014 - 4:43pm

Fascinating look at the state behind the State...

...via Jesse's site -- the post also has the Bill Moyers interview:

"Yes, there is another government concealed behind the one that is visible at either end of Pennsylvania Avenue, a hybrid entity of public and private institutions ruling the country according to consistent patterns in season and out, connected to, but only intermittently controlled by, the visible state whose leaders we choose.

My analysis of this phenomenon is not an exposé of a secret, conspiratorial cabal; the state within a state is hiding mostly in plain sight, and its operators mainly act in the light of day. Nor can this other government be accurately termed an 'establishment.'

All complex societies have an establishment, a social network committed to its own enrichment and perpetuation. In terms of its scope, financial resources and sheer global reach, the American hybrid state, the Deep State, is in a class by itself. That said, it is neither omniscient nor invincible. The institution is not so much sinister (although it has highly sinister aspects) as it is relentlessly well entrenched.

Far from being invincible, its failures, such as those in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, are routine enough that it is only the Deep State’s protectiveness towards its higher-ranking personnel that allows them to escape the consequences of their frequent ineptitude."

Mike Lofgren, Anatomy of the Deep State

The full essay is posted on and also goes into comparisons with the Roman empire. Highly recommended reading.

"The Deep State does not consist of the entire government. It is a hybrid of national security and law enforcement agencies: the Department of Defense, the Department of State, the Department of Homeland Security, the Central Intelligence Agency and the Justice Department. I also include the Department of the Treasury because of its jurisdiction over financial flows, its enforcement of international sanctions and its organic symbiosis with Wall Street. All these agencies are coordinated by the Executive Office of the President via the National Security Council. Certain key areas of the judiciary belong to the Deep State, such as the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, whose actions are mysterious even to most members of Congress. Also included are a handful of vital federal trial courts, such as the Eastern District of Virginia and the Southern District of Manhattan, where sensitive proceedings in national security cases are conducted. The final government component (and possibly last in precedence among the formal branches of government established by the Constitution) is a kind of rump Congress consisting of the congressional leadership and some (but not all) of the members of the defense and intelligence committees. The rest of Congress, normally so fractious and partisan, is mostly only intermittently aware of the Deep State and when required usually submits to a few well-chosen words from the State’s emissaries."

Feb 23, 2014 - 4:46pm


If the US Gov wanted to, they could take steps to prepare the grid for an attack since they know it's a vulnerability. They have not, nor have they bought back up gens in case the primary's get fried.

They want a partial meltdown of the grid to goad us into WWIII

Feb 23, 2014 - 4:58pm

@ argentus maximus

Great read, one thing about me is: I'm happy within myself, I also like myself, have my PM's, have my food, Have my gas, have my ammo and I will survive unless I'm shot in the back. Lol Keep Stacking

While the Turd's away the children will play.

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sierra skier
Feb 23, 2014 - 5:24pm

Thank You Bag of Gold

for the enlightening link. Where are the Flintstone multi vitamins?

My daughter is on a huge GMO labeling kick. There are so many things wrong with the foods, supplements, vitamins and other products we use. Has anyone ever looked at the ingredients in hair dye, makeup, plastic wrap, drinking water and the list goes on and on. There are deliberate poisons in the majority of our consumables.

The biggest issue is few know and fewer even care as they are busy filling their bodies with microwaves and radio waves from their must have electronic devices stuck to their ear that can track, listen to us, advertise to us, watch us and tattle on us if we use key words (list of key words looks like a copy of the Webster's Dictionary).


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