Fukushima? Deepwater Horizon? The Potential Extinction Level Events That Nobody Cares About

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Wed, Jan 8, 2014 - 1:29pm

I'm not trying to be unnecessarily alarmist here. And perhaps I've been keeping up too much on the latest Fukushima news. But I woke up this morning having a nightmare that another earthquake had hit Japan. While the quake in my dream was not as big as the massive temblor that initially destroyed the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, it was big enough to destroy the delicate balance at the smoldering ruins, and the plant was set to blow at any moment.

Heck, the plant is teetering on the edge anyway, even without another quake. One fumble in the cleanup could cause a massive chain reaction. Things are bad. And yet, other than a handful of people covering it in the alternative media, it's as if Fukushima doesn't even exist!

It seems like America has been split between two types of people: Folks who believe that if it's not covered in the mainstream media, it didn't happen or isn't an issue, and the recalcitrant non-conformers such as myself who believe most of the mainstream media outlets are simply propaganda machines.

Try talking to someone who only gets their news from CNN and tell them about the latest problems at Fukushima. Chances are, they'll look at you like you are nuts.

Nuclear expert Arnie Gundersen has recently come out and stated that it was time to build a sarcophagus (like Chernobyl) and "walk away" from the Fukushima plant for the next 100 years. It's funny to me how many people claim Arnie is a shill - if he really were a shill, don't you think he'd be saying everything was just fine? And he'd be appearing on national news regularly to give us chipper updates on how "swimmingly" the clean-up is going! But he's not. At best he's got an interview on Coast to Coast AM once in a while. He's been marginalized.

Instead, NPR (which one commenter has now dubbed "Nuclear Propaganda Radio") is supposedly helping to "disseminate" Fukushima-related information - along with the California Department of Public Health, which is claiming that there's no risk of radioactive contamination along the state's beaches.

Really?

Oh yes, I guess it's just fallout from red-painted plastic spoons! Doh!

I used to live in Los Angeles, and environmental organizations there regularly put out a "beach report card" that grades local beaches on the amount of trash and toxins in the water. For all that these organizations have done to try to mitigate the problems of storm drain run-off, it's absolutely astonishing no-one seems to care about radioactive trash floating in from across the ocean.

Where's the outcry from environmentalists about the poor two-headed whale that just floated up out of the depths off the West Coast?

https://youtu.be/0tMxn9LdQjc

I used to surf. I miss it terribly, but I'm glad I'm not still in California, looking at the ocean and knowing that going in might give me cancer down the road.

Which brings me to another ocean-related issue: Does anyone remember the Deepwater Horizon oil spill of 2010? I have to admit, I had completely forgotten about it. Then, this little spot in my brain suddenly recalled how many bloggers had sounded the alarm about the Gulf Stream dying due to the oil being pumped into the Gulf thanks to BP's negligence.

Their prediction? With the North Atlantic Current disrupted, the entire Northern hemisphere was going to turn into one huge glacier.

Huh.

Come of think of it, it has been pretty cold lately...

This is the scenario presented in the movie "The Day After Tomorrow." If the Atlantic current that brings warm water from the south up to the northern regions stalls, then it would basically destroy the warm weather for Europe as well as disrupt the climate for a good chunk of North America.

I admit, I was very skeptical of these doomsayers back then. But if we start seeing these "polar vortexes" happening every year, then that would be very, very bad.

Where is the great American environmental movement in the midst of these worldwide catastrophes? Mostly silent.

No, instead, they are obsessed with how much carbon you are outputting. Never mind radiation...it's carbon that is the big evil.

And they think we are insane?

The Powers That Be are busy trying to stop people from burning wood in fireplaces in places like San Francisco, when if they truly cared about the environment, they'd be doing more about Fukushima than just covering it up. Meanwhile, the EPA wants to limit the amount of particulates that are emitted from wood stoves. Pretty soon, they will attempt to ban fireplaces altogether.

Great. That will help us all when the next Ice Age comes! We can keep the air clean of particulates from burning wood and keep ourselves warm with the skunk-like haze of now-legal marijuana smoke.

So what can we do? Well, it may be a lost cause at this point. Fukushima may blow and the West Coast will become radioactive. Don't expect the mainstream media to tell about the severity of the problem, however. We'll just see a massive increase in cancer and birth defects in the coming decades.

If the Gulf Stream has been shutting down, a new Ice Age will be harder for the media to ignore, but I doubt it's going to happen as quickly as it did in The Day After Tomorrow. People will adjust.

Maybe it's a blessing from disguise. People won't evacuate the North due to the radiation the government is covering up, but they sure as heck won't want to live on a glacier! They'll be moving south just to stay warm! Deepwater Horizon may save their lives!

I'm being a bit facetious here. But in times like these, I wish Douglas Adams were still alive to write some sort of satirical book on all of this insanity. Something like: "The Hitchhikers Guide to Life, the Universe, and the Nuclear Ice Age."

Stephanie blogs sporadically at a number of websites, including Freeople and Free Thinking Christianity.

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  76 Comments

AlienEyes
Jan 8, 2014 - 11:04pm

Devide and Conquor

The "polarization" in American politics is starting to become more evident. Not so much in black/white but in liberal/conservative politics. The incessant inane screaming from the far left hasn't changed that much but the reactions to it from the conservative right are changing rapidly. While surfing for information on the fuku radiation, I saw a number of post like, "In a perfect world, the Japanese radiation would all end up in San Francisco, at the exact time the long awaited big one hit the same target." and "Wouldn't it be great if Nancy Pelosi's grapes got so radioactive that they shut her vineyard down for five hundred years?" and then, "It would be even better if she got sued for selling glow in the dark wine and lost every dime she has in court." (my personal favorite ) On a slightly different theme there was, "It would serve him right if Bill Gates shielded his entire mansion with lead because of the radiation from Japan and then puked and died from lead poisoning."

I have a strong feeling that this entire debacle (the O'bummer administration) is NOT going to end well.

Maestro
Jan 8, 2014 - 11:11pm

@gbend

Your comment rings so true..and illustrates clearly that I spoke too hastily and harshly. Apologies to Stephanie and the Turdite community at large.

Maestro

foggyroad
Jan 9, 2014 - 2:56am

Thank you Stephane

I enjoyed your article and must say a little alternative media coverage goes along way to get the word out.

Anyone that reads and disputes anything can always post different sources to back their claims, and we are all allowed to make up our own minds what to believe.

Criticism without refutation is just lazy 'Yahoo Board' quality commentary, something we can all do with less of.

Keep up the good work.

Thank You.

Ps. Maestro I wrote this before reading your latest post, I too would like to apologize for continuing to berate your initial post, I think the issue has run its course, and look forward to your future posts.

Cheers;

Foggy

SilveryBlue
Jan 9, 2014 - 4:27am

Stephanie

I will admit your spontaneous blog debut got my back up.

Not for content or author gender.

Just because Turd withdrew mostly to the private quarters of the paid blog and wisely left the seasoned and respected posters available in the public section. Of course I have a sub, but that's not the point.

DPH, AM, Cal, Lantern, XTY & co were all very familiar to me based on their contributions prior to the paywall. I don't recall seeing anything from you before now on TFMR - not even on Dots. Feel free to direct me to your regular forum haunts (if mods are allowed haunts?)

So I will read & digest everything as per my normal browsing habit. But if you are on the front page (vs in the forums where everyone has to DYOR) please supply links to verifiable sources for follow up reading and some background reading sources for creditability.

Thanks

SilveryBlue

dgstage
Jan 9, 2014 - 8:31am

Jeff Rense & Jay Weidner – Kubrick & The Moon Landing

If you do not have time for the whole audio, at least listen to the last 3 minutes.

https://sgtreport.com/2014/01/jeff-rense-dr-joseph-chiappalone-the-final...

Big Buffalo
Jan 9, 2014 - 10:54am

Aquaponics

As you all know, our media and scientists will tell you that eggs are bad, then they're good, then bad again. So, who really knows what is good and what's bad. I'm a "everything in moderation" kinda guy. I like meat and fish, etc. We pay a very steep amount for "grass fed / free range" meat. However when FUKU happened, I started thinking more about the fish we have available. Farm raised equals hormones, and natural caught equals mercury and now radiation. So, what to do? like veggies, grow your own.

This lead me to look into aquaponics systems a couple years ago. Grow your own fish, better veggies and control what's going into your body. It's fairly easy, low maintenance, rather fun. Anyway, I encourage you to do some research.

dgstage
Jan 9, 2014 - 11:04am

Jan 9, 2014 - 11:56am

@SilveryBlue - what's a verifiable source to you?

You wrote: "please supply links to verifiable sources for follow up reading and some background reading sources for creditability."

My post above has many links embedded (mostly from Enenews) as well as a video of the actual two-headed whale in question.

Granted, I agree with some criticism of Enenews in that the tone can get a bit hysterical at times, but I know of no other site on the Internet that is voraciously aggregating links on Fukushima more than they are. If you want to keep up with the Fukushima news, that's the site that has all the latest headlines.

PS As for my "regular haunts" around TFMR - why should that matter? When you go to a website to read an article, do you always judge the article based on how well you think you "know" the online persona of the person writing it? Judge my articles on their own merit, not on who you think I am or whether you think I've built up enough "cred" here. That should go for any future contributor Turd might bring on board.


Jan 9, 2014 - 11:57am

PS Thanks Maestro, Mr. Fix, and everyone...

...who has said kind things. Appreciated!

gbend
Jan 9, 2014 - 2:00pm

An opposing viewpoint

How about a note of optimism on this issue:https://jimstonefreelance.com

old tradesman
Jan 9, 2014 - 2:13pm

radiation in idaho falls idaho

the radiation levels dont scare me as much as these in idaho. Take a look at the netc.com site for idaho falls. Its hard to click on its hidden behind rexberg id.

dgstage
Jan 9, 2014 - 2:21pm

Old T

I was a hospice nurse at the time and watched my peers die an agonizing death as a result of the Nevada test projects-downwinders they are called.

As a holistic nurse I have researched Fukushima and have found cesium 137 and strontium 90 to also be a concern. The half life on these are 28 and 30 years respectively. The effects of low level radiation are cumulative. I left the mainstream medical model in 2008 and never went back. I was a hospice nurse at the time and watched my peers die an agonizing death as a result of the Nevada test projects-downwinders they are called. Utah compensated the victims but Idaho admits guilt but no payment(where I was emloyed).
It is my duty to inform and warn and provide some simple solutions.
At Chernobyl the public was weary of the reindeer meat they consume that grazed on radioactive foliage. A group of scientists did an experiment to see if zeolite or bentonite clay could clear the radiation out of the meat. It did work. My first entries on my blog describe with references if interested- healthbeginsathome.com
Strontium mimics calcium and binds to bone. Kelp and apple pectin along with organic sulfur work for that.
Cesium 137 mimics potassium and attaches to heart and muscles and organs. Zeolite and bentonite clay work for that.
I run twice a year 10 day detoxification groups and am adding the zeolite and apple pectin along with sea vegetables for the iodine to the protocol. Get the word out that iodine is only a very small step in the journey of getting rid of the radiation in our bodies.
Thanks

old tradesman
Jan 9, 2014 - 2:38pm

and we pride ourselfs

on local meet, get an elk every year, local raw dairy. Just last week 40 miles from our home the meter ran over 600. with an average of 250 or so. dgstage: luck has it that we have all of the obove zeolite and clay and iodine but didnt know I was in the highest radioactive area in the usa (as far as I've not clicked on anything remotely higher)

MattTheNuke
Jan 9, 2014 - 2:40pm

A number of points

Good afternoon, all,

I made an account solely for the purpose to put some perspective on Stephanie's post. I'll be upfront and say I was a reactor operator for ten years, so I may be as biased against your article as you are biased for it, but I will do my very best to keep it factual and constructive.

First, you start out saying you had a nightmare about Fukushima. Do you believe this is because you've been thinking a lot about the topic lately, or because dreams have some significance? In your dream, the "plant was set to blow any minute." I agree, that's a nightmare. But how bad would it be? We, as a race, did a lot of stupid things with nuclear weapons before we knew about ideas like "fallout," where radioactive materiel lingered and spread after a detonation. Between 1945 and 1980, there have been 521 above-ground nuclear detonations, all over the world. They were spread out over 35 years, which helps the shorter half-life materials, but not the longer ones. The effects were not, and are not as catastrophic as one may assume, but they are no less tragic.

Furthermore, there have been two previous major nuclear power plant accidents which lead to a gross release of fission products (Aside from Fukushima). Three Mile Island, the US's worst power plant accident, and Chernobyl, which you mentioned. In both cases, within a month, the fission products release were being deposited on the US east coast, and caused a rise in detectable radiation levels. Sounds bad, right? Not really. Radiation levels going up, in any amount, causing a rise in risk, but it has to go up quite a bit above "background" before the risks of things like cancer go up even 1%.

You mention the ideas of putting the plant in a sarcophagus, and contrast that with "one fumble in the cleanup could cause a massive chain reaction." Which idea do you prefer? Taking a small risk to get rid of the bad stuff, or sealing it up for hundreds of years and hoping for a better ending?

In addition, your remarks about people who only get their news from CNN irked me. People who only get their news from alarmist fear-mongers are equally, but oppositely bad. Similarly, your remarks about NPR and the CDPH are out of line. Just because the disagree with you about the current situation does not make them shills. They also reeks of intellectual elitism. Are radiation levels going up on west-coast beaches? Yes. Does that mean there's actually a danger? Probably not.

To determine if there's a hazard from radiation, you have to think in numbers and types. Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with what detectors they were using in the link you posted, but knowing if the radiation is alpha (that's bad), gamma (pretty bad), or beta (not really bad at all, at some levels) is handy. Gamma radiation will have the most penetrating power, but is fairly weak. Alpha and beta radiation pack more punch (damage to your body), but can't penetrate your skin (so don't eat it, or inhale it, which is why smoking is bad, or eating Japanese fish is a fishy idea).

As for the numbers, none of the tests I've found have shown anything above acceptable limits (please let me know if you find some first hand information to the contrary) on the West Coast. The acceptable limits are set so that one can be exposed to them 24 hours a day without much of a rise in risk of cancer (again, these are all probability-based, so there's not hard and fast rules).

By comparison, a cross-country flight or chest x-ray puts you through a much higher acute (you get the radiation all at once, which is much worse) dose than what people sunbathing on the beach in San Diego are currently getting (Can you still go to the beach in San Diego, or did it become winter there, too?). Living in a basement in Colorado will yield a higher dose that living in San Francisco. I won't break it down into how much bananas and spinach you could eat to get the same dose, but hopefully, you get the idea.

I consider myself as something of an expert in the nuclear field, especially when it comes to nuclear power plants, so I hope my assurances will give you some piece of mind, and maybe you'll stop having nightmares. If my (in my not-so-humble opinion) expert view on this topic isn't dissuade you that there's an immediate threat if you are currently living in WA, OR, and CA ("I'm glad I'm not still in California, looking at the ocean and knowing that going in might give me cancer down the road."), then I'm afraid you're dogmatic, and nothing anyone says will dissuade you from your notion that a lot of fear about the effects of the disaster in Fukushima is unwarranted.

I am not, however, an expert in climate or ocean currents, but I'm almost positive that if you think that colder weather is proof of climate change, you're as bad as climate change skeptics who point to snow as evidence against global warming. Pointing to a single two-headed whale, and a week of cold up north as proof of your ideas is confirmation bias. They're just points, and you need a lot of them to make an accurate line to define a trend.

Thanks for reading this. I eagerly await your reply.

--Matt, The Nuke

MattTheNuke old tradesman
Jan 9, 2014 - 3:28pm

Nuclear Prototype

Old Tradesman, Idaho Falls is the site of a reactor prototype site and waste storage facility, which explains why it's more elevated than surrounding areas. It's currently reading just above its average.

WhyMeLord
Jan 10, 2014 - 4:18pm

Presented for your information

Published in April 2014, samples taken in August 2011 found levels of radiation at 5% of those contained in a banana...

Very interesting scientific overview of the effects of radiation, nonetheless.

Evaluation of radiation doses and associated risk from the Fukushima nuclear accident to marine biota and human consumers of seafood

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