Another Helpful Video

Tue, Dec 3, 2013 - 6:18pm

My friend Dan at Future Money Trends sends over these videos from time to time and asks me to consider posting them. Given the current state of the miners and the new lows of the HUI, I thought this was timely.

In this video, Sean from SGT Report interviews Amir Adnani. I think you'll find it a good use of your time.


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Dec 3, 2013 - 6:20pm

And in case you missed it

The Doc and I were on with Sean back on Saturday:

Dec 3, 2013 - 6:32pm
Dec 3, 2013 - 6:37pm

Andy Hoffman – The Cycle Of Lunacy Continues

Ranting Andy Returns for our regular Monday discussion. This week, we talked about:

  • The World’s Central Banks continue on their insane self destructive course on steroids;
  • The Precious Metals market attacks go on;
  • Asia keeps on accumulating
  • Nothing to see here move along.

Dec 3, 2013 - 6:38pm


Number three or maybe 4?

Mr. Fix
Dec 3, 2013 - 6:57pm

Thank you for posting that again Turd,

I still think Obama care is designed to separate as many people as possible from their doctors.

 After all, I have concluded that Obama wants most of us dead, and the last thing he needs is a bunch of doctors running around curing the ill.

Am looking forward to tonight's post regarding JP Morgan's stack, we might be able to glean how close to a collapse we really are, but I think the price will continue to fall as the vaults are cleared out.

Dec 3, 2013 - 7:11pm

G/S ratio

The Gold/Silver ratio is now 64.1 and rising.

Dec 3, 2013 - 7:12pm

Panama ATM,s

Panama. We have been unable to get cash for about a month now, on 3 separate occasions, gone to 3 different

banks to use their ATMs to get cash. Every time the ATM said it dispensed cash, but none of them did

Hi, Steve. Patricia in Panama here. 
I noticed the article on Stan Deyo's site regarding ATM problems in the UK, and have heard recently of similar

problems in US. Let me tell you about what is going on here in Panama. 
We have been unable to get cash for about a month now. My son (who requires a life-saving medication

constantly) has 3 times, on 3 separate occasions, gone to 3 different banks to use their ATMs to get cash.

Every time the ATM said it dispensed cash, but none of them did. We are unable to get cash here, and it's very

difficult to live here without cash as Panama is a cash-based society. The bank in the US (where our accounts

are) tell us that the problem is the Panama system, and that we should not use the ATMs here. Generally, the

system for debiting items at the stores works ok, although there are infrequent problems there, too, and very

few stores are equipped to take the debit cards.
It is my understanding that the ATMs and the store debits work on the same system. So, why is it that the

debit works in the (few ) stores (that take them), but the ATMs are not working for us?
We're not the only ones having this problem. Many Americans here are experiencing the same difficulty.
We're praying for a solution, as life has become very difficult for us.P, IN PANAMA
God bless you for all you do!

Dec 3, 2013 - 7:24pm


I told Turd to look into MMS because Mrs T.'s friend had cancer.

My elderly father about 8-10 weeks ago was given some shit stage four cancer drug for his prostate. Yes, they don't prescribe it unless it is stage four or flipping life threatening. He was told not to leave the country as he would not return.

Assholes, I put him on MMS - 3 drops then up to six drops when the shits were bad, back to 3 and now up to 8 drops four times a day without the f'ing shits. 

Today is their 60th wedding anniversary. They will calibrate knowing that the prostate is normal and the doctor said the drug must have done it.

Bullshit, the MMS saved my father's life. 


Edit, sorry Turd, I will read your stuff tomorrow.

Cancer patients please look up MMS and Jim Humble the stuff costs $20 for a maintenance supply for a year. Save a life for next to nothing.

Dec 3, 2013 - 7:55pm



Dec 3, 2013 - 8:03pm


A wonder cure tmos!

Dec 3, 2013 - 8:08pm


The guy may seem weird, but take the time to listen and understand. He is not selling snake oil and making money at $20 dollars. He also has sent out the protocols so you can make it your self.

Dec 3, 2013 - 8:24pm

Nutural Cure for Cancer

Jerry Brunetti cured himself of cancer when they gave him six months to live. Ty Bollinger has done lots of excellent research. Lots of good info just google them.

Dec 3, 2013 - 8:29pm

Silver imports surge 40 pct in Oct, hit three-month high


Silver imports jumped 40 percent to 338 tonnes in October from 241 tonnes in September, GFMS data showed, driven by demand during the festivals and weddings season that starts from October and tapers off by early May next year.

"By the end of the year, silver imports should be at 5,200-5,400 tonnes," said Sudheesh Nambiath, an analyst with Thomson Reuters GFMS. This would be more than India's record high purchases of 5,048 tonnes in 2008.

Dec 3, 2013 - 8:58pm

JPMorgan Shakedown Includes Acorn-Style Kickback

Extortion: Just when we thought its post-crisis probe of banks couldn't get more corrupt, the Obama administration has cut radical Democrat groups in on the record $13 billion JPMorgan Chase subprime loan deal.

On Page 5 of "Annex 2" of the recently released consent order, you'll find this little gem: The Justice Department mandates that JPMorgan fork over any unclaimed or unpaid consumer damages to a nonprofit group that finances Acorn clones and other shakedown groups.

They stand to reap millions. The "consumer relief" portion of the deal by itself totals $4 billion.

If the government "determines that a shortfall in that obligation remains as of Dec. 31, 2017," the agreement states, "JPMorgan shall make a compensatory payment in cash in an amount equal to the shortfall to NeighborWorks America to provide housing counseling, neighborhood stabilization, foreclosure prevention or similar programs."

Potentially billions could be distributed to Democrat activists through NeighborWorks, a government-funded "affordable housing" group that supports a national network of left-wing community organizers operating in the same vein as Acorn.

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HeirHelmut Orange
Dec 3, 2013 - 9:37pm

Orange,that's interesting. I


that's interesting. I have heard about Vitamine B17 but never about MMS.

The internet makes it possible that this kind of information reaches more people.

I'm always sceptical, but I had three experiences that have proven to me, that the doctors are NOT good healers and do only treat symptoms but not the root of the problems.

  • Since I have been a child I always was tired in school and had harder bowel movement. Overall I was quite healthy and never had any reason to visit a doctor or hospitality. One day I heard that a well known athlete was drinking up to 5 liters water per day. Since I never drank pure water without big thirst I was curious about the effect this could have. I filled a big glass with half a liter and drunk it within seconds without being thirsty. The first thing I noticed, that my wish for a coffee, because I was feeling tired at around 3 p.m. and still had to learn a lot, was gone. And around 10 minutes later I felt much, much fresher. Could this really the water?

To make the story short: YES.

A few years later a relative in his 50s told me, that he was at the doctor and is now using blood-thinners. The doctor didn't even ask him, if he was drinking water! And he drinks almost zero water (beer, lemonade, coffee).

Millions of people are prescribed blood thinners and since I know the incredible revitalizing effect of drinking a glass of pure water at once for years now, I'm sure that their blood is only too thick because of drinking too less.

But it's not good for the business and the economy to solve problems that way...

In the meanwhile think I also have developed an easy theory, why this water deficit even happens (usually the body tells us, what he needs):

If we eat something without any aroma, for example rice, oat flakes without any salt, it tastes so lame, that we hardly can eat full portions. We need to use lots of water (the only natural liquid compared with the evolutionary timeframe very recently) to get the meal finished. That's the natural dose of water the body really would need.

But with delicious salt and aroma, meal these days tastes so good, that we don't need water. Salivation kicks in but salivation is not additional liquid. It's like filling a cement mixer with too less water. We only need water against the thrist because of the salt, but that's way to less. My personal theory, why we usually drink way too less and why most people have a liquid deficit and too thick blood.

Isn't it incredible with such a huge medical complex and healthcare industry, that we simply have no clue about the importance of drinking lots of water to feel good? How many health problems are a result of a decade long lack of water in the body?

  •  My other experience was from my family: a member had problems with his back. Had all kinds of treatements and all kind of "specialists" have done their work. Nothing helped.

One day I had the idea, that if the backbone hurts, that this is maybe a result of being compressed all day. So if the backbone could be streched, maybe the pain would go away? While I was thinking how I could build such a tool I searched the net and saw that this was already existing, being called inversion bank.

I ordered one at Amazon and then it happened:

The family member in his 60s, used the inversion bank for three minutes at a quite flat angle for the very first time. Next day in the morning it reported: the pain was gone. Completely gone.

An inversion bank that streches the back for $100 while the doctors used useless pharmaceutics for thousands of Euros.

The family member now can again work very hard in the garden and if he feels after a hard day, that next day there could be problems, he uses the inversion bank for three minutes...

  •  The same family member has been a smoker. One day he cut a very long and old thuja hedge from within and was completely finished at the evening. Since it wasn't becoming better the next day, we visited the next hospital.

The doctors did some tests and before having any test results, they prescribed some pharmaceuticals with cortison.

The next day while I was thinking about the root of the problem, I had a suspicion. I asked the family member if he was asked by the doctors, what he was doing before the problems occured. "No. Nobody asked me."

I was shocked and my suspicion became stronger: this big old hedge had lots of dust in it (old cuts transformed into dust over decades). And since it was cut in half and cut from within without a mask, I was quite sure, that this amount of dust was simply too much for the lung and the body. Additionally IIRC thuja can also be toxic.

What was also very interesting: I asked the family member about it's feelings, when he thinks about the smell of the thuja. And he was disgusted. Now I was almost sure.

So we decided not to take the pharma garbage, did not visit the "specialists" according to the given plan and instead gave the body a few days to recover from this overdose. And as expected, the problems vanished. Too bad: another and potentially decade long new consumer of their pharma-garbage could not be aquired...

Because of these shocking personal experiences with the "health" industry and the incredible way doctors work (using pharma first instead of looking at the possible roots of the problem like an engineer), I know that the system is built on making huge efforts and creating revenue of all involved parties, but not to heal and find the best and easiest solution to the problem.

Therefore I absolutely believe that things like B17 or MMS can be discovered and have absolutely no chance of being respected by the school "medicine".

Mr. Fix
Dec 3, 2013 - 9:48pm

Orange, thank you for your post.

 For almost a year, I have been making my own colloidal silver, and drinking it daily, and I have never felt better.

 The cost is negligible, (I keep a couple of silver maples dedicated to production), and from reading the material on the website you linked to, it appears that it works on pathogens in a similar manner to MMS.

 I am curious if you purchase the formula premixed, or if you make your own, and if so, do you have a ingredients supplier, and a formula?

 As someone who has just joined the ranks of those without any healthcare, I am stocking up on antibiotics, making more colloidal silver than I need, and am looking to make sure I have whatever I need for what ever biological contagion I need to or eradicate from my body.

 Thank you for bringing this to my attention. 

Dec 3, 2013 - 9:56pm

Tulving Silver Eagles - SOLD OUT (Really?)

The bankers have now driven their fake silver price index so low that we are starting to see the SOLD OUT signs come out again. 

Again, this 18,19,20ish area is still the functional price bottom because dealers quit selling, or jack up the premiums to offset any lower prices.

The banker's do not want to risk lower prices accompanied by SOLD OUT signs.. or crazy premiums. This would lead to their fake silver price index no longer being the exclusive reference for the entire world's silver transactions.

Here's the old slide again showing when this boundary was set...

Indeed, the point of the above slide is primarily that decreasing prices no longer decrease demand. But that already happened, demand is no longer controlled by the chart. So what are they doing this time?

Boundary testing? maybe.

WE ARE IN END-GAME NOW, and the bankers have Silver in media black-out mode. 

Maybe the bankers still over-estimate their importance and think everybody forgot about Silver just because they haven't allowed it to be discussed in their press.

The next slide is a variation of the above slide that appears to continue to have it figured fairly close, as far as the banker's keeping the silver chart in the cooler until they can get their New World digi'gold'esque Currency rolled out.

Tulving having put out the ASE/ SOLD OUT sign is just as before at about this price. 

You won't actually stack real Silver any cheaper than at these prices right here. Much lower and nobody is selling, or the premiums offset the discounted price.

(10:10 chat) Anybody want to chat about how and why they will soon be driving the Silver and Gold charts to the upside in coordination with the Bitcoin promo campaign? Meet in the Chat room at 10:10 p.m. EST (in about 25 minutes) don't know how to use the chat room but will give it a shot at 10:10

Dec 3, 2013 - 10:01pm

Harvey's Up! (TFMR)

  • Egon von Greyerz on China (via King World News): What is now becoming clear is that China is in a very similar credit bubble to the rest of the world. Chinese banking assets have, since the end of 2008, grown by 166% to (a staggering) $24 trillion. This is an increase of $15 trillion in 5 years. That is absolutely astonishing, and shows that China has also created an unsustainable credit bubble that is likely to end in tears.
  • Dave Hodges: As we transition from an industrial based economy to a post industrial society, most of us will no longer needed because the size of the labor class will dramatically shrink. Now, we know the meaning of Henry Kissinger’s proclamation that we are nothing but a bunch of useless eaters. Do you think that the elites are really kidding when they make such statements? Various governments, on behalf of their elite masters, murdered over 260 million of their own citizens in the 20th century. I contend that these 260 million people are merely the prelude of what is on the horizon. 
  • Egon von Greyerz: we’ve seen massive growth in technology, science, medicine, etc, which has been excellent for the world. The other side of the coin tells us a totally different story. Growth and innovation in many areas have come at the expense of the most massive credit creation that the world has ever experienced. The government's exponential printing and credit creation has now created an unhealthy and unsustainable world economy -- an economy that is living on borrowed time.
  • GoldCore: A major conference on the future of banking yesterday heard contributions on a European banking union which is being negotiated by Eurozone finance ministers. One of the aspects of that union will be a 'bail-in' of deposits when banks fail in the future. Michael Noonan, Ireland’s Minister for Finance confirmed yesterday that bail-ins or deposit confiscation will be used. One of the main pillars to the bank recovery and resolution proposal (BRR) framework to facilitate a range of actions by authorities are “resolution tools” including bail-ins.
  • John Embry: China probably has as big or even a bigger credit bubble than the West ever had. Since the financial crisis hit in 2008, China has gone to money printing hand-over-fist, with increased debt growth, in order to keep their economy moving forward. China has a political imperative to do this because the public is not terribly happy with the situation. The national leaders placate the public with economic growth and job opportunities. This is unsustainable, and it’s incredibly important to realize this, because without China’s growth, we could be headed for a worldwide depression of epic proportions.
  • Chris Powell: Not even Bernanke, Yellen, or all the paper gold exchange-traded funds in the world will be able to do much to suppress gold prices from reaching their fair value when gold production hits a standstill and when demand, especially by China, is still in the hundreds of tons each year. The next moment of transition might be many years away, or it could come tomorrow. (Most likely it will be a Sunday night U.S. Eastern time, which is when such things are usually sprung on the world by its unelected rulers. DS: Now even GATA is coming out in favor of the idea of the world being run by an unelected elite.
  • John Embry on economic crisis: The only reason the economy and the financial system is remaining afloat is because of these ridiculously unsustainable low interest rates. So we’re headed for a major crisis, it’s just a question of when. The combination of derivatives, QE and algorithmic trading have allowed all of these markets to be manipulated and falsified for far longer than the rational mind would have expected, but it’s solving nothing, and the end game just gets worse with each passing day. My greatest fear is that if I’m right and the Western financial system and global economy implodes, I think we will see the most frightening level of social unrest in history.
  • Chris Powell: Attempts by central banks and bullion banks to gain access to gold by driving the price down are counterproductive, GoldMoney founder and GATA consultant James Turk tells King World News today, because the discount on the gold price is creating more demand for metal than metal is being pulled into the market.
  • Eric King (via King World News): What is truly remarkable is the collapse in gold and silver prices continues to take place against the backdrop of technical hyperinflation in other hard assets such as the fine art, antique cars, watches and diamond markets. In fact, Christie’s recently finished a series of auctions in Hong Kong which sold a staggering $493 million of inventory. There were multiple record breaking sales as everything from fine art, watches, vases, and a diamond necklace consisting of 104.84 carats created a bidding frenzy which helped to shatter all-time records. Circling back to gold and silver, the plunge in prices has been happening even as the Chinese just finished reporting the second largest monthly gold purchase this year at an astonishing 130 tons of gold imports. 
  • Alasdair Macleod (GATA): The regional attitude toward gold in the Middle East, which was acquired in large quantities up to the mid-1990s as insurance against this eventual outcome of the dollar is turning away from valuing gold in the dollar. Interestingly, I have discovered from contacts in the Swiss refining industry that some of the Arabs' previously acquired gold in LBMA 400 ounce gold bars is now being recast into the new Chinese 9999 standard of 1 kilo bars. Taking into account the significant shift in the region’s trade and strategic options it becomes clear that gold held for eventual resale into dollar-denominated markets makes no sense at all, particularly when there are enormous dollar balances that will also have to be addressed. However, the Arabs know that if they sell their dollars they will risk undermining the whole fiat currency regime. It is therefore quite possible they will seek as an alternative to take at least a portion of their oil revenue in gold or its equivalent.
  • Harvey: All GOFO rates still positive. GLD: Gold lost 1.8 tonnes and settled at 841.41 tonnes. SLV: Silver was unchanged at 10,309.02.

All this and more on...

The Harvey Report! smiley


SilverLeaf Orange
Dec 4, 2013 - 12:20am

@ Orange: You mean this MMS?

A toxic solution of 28% sodium chlorite and distilled water...

Jeez, why would you promoting something so dangerous to people's health? Anyone considering this shit should read about it in the Wikipedia entry first.

Dec 4, 2013 - 12:57am

@ silverleaf

No offense, but have you ever tried chemo?

Chemotherapy drugs are cytotoxic agents. They kill cells! The whole idea is to kill the cancer cells before the chemo kills you. I don't know anything about MMS other than what I have read on blogs (all good); but, I'm pretty sure it can't be any worse than chemo.

I'm a nurse. There is a reason we say "cure ya? or kill ya?" when we talk about chemo

the_circle SilverLeaf
Dec 4, 2013 - 1:58am

Wikipedia is a great source

Wikipedia is a great source of truths. How many biographies have you read on wikipedia that highlight how a person is/was a freemason? None??? Funny that... nobody (according to wikipedia) has ever been a freemason.

This guy has some great videos on natural remedies. This video features Lugol's iodine...

Making Lugol's Iodine (Part 1 of 2)
Dec 4, 2013 - 2:43am

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A golden opportunity?
Dec 4, 2013 - 3:03am

Silverleaf: The poison is in


The poison is in the dose. It sounds like people are taking this stuff dropwise. From the wiki, it seems that you need to take a gram of the stuff before toxicity symptoms come about in particularly vulnerable people.

Not commenting on whether it works, but it looks like it doesn't do that much harm taken in moderation.

I am more concerned with the formulation that uses Calcium hypochlorite which is basically BLEACH, which isn't something I want in my body at higher than microgram/L levels.

Dec 4, 2013 - 3:07am

Blimey, that's expensive

Blimey, that's expensive !

500 bucks for one stitch ! Is it like that everywhere in The States ? I do know that British friends of my parents have sold up their house in The States and returned to The UK as they cannot get health insurance due to their age having recently turned 80 (up til 80 they had insurance there)..........and the husband is not too great at the moment and requires treatment.

Dec 4, 2013 - 3:53am

How do you like this- quite

How do you like this- quite an offensive:

September 17th 2013:

Quote: India has increased the duty on imports of gold jewellery to 15% from 10%, in its latest attempt to curb the demand for the precious metal.

September 25th 2013

Quote: Indian PM Manmohan Singh is to begin a four-day visit to the US during which he will hold talks with President Barack Obama.

July 23, 2013

Quote: US Vice-President Joe Biden is holding talks with Indian PM Manmohan Singh during a four-day visit to India to boost diplomatic and economic ties. Quote: Aug 13 - India hikes import duty on gold for a third time in 2013 to 10 percent. Duties for silver and platinum also increased to 10 percent. Customs duty on gold dore bars, ore or concentrate increased to 8 percent from 6 percent.

Aug 14 - India turns the screws on gold buying again, banning imports of coins and medallions and making domestic buyers pay cash.

June 24, 2013

Quote: U.S. and Indian defense corporations are eyeing billions of dollars in military hardware deals during Secretary of State John Kerry’s three-day visit to India that began on Sunday, while Washington expects to move forward on implementing the 2008 joint civil nuclear deal, news reports said. Quote: Following are the measures taken by the central bank and the government in 2013: Jan 21 -- The federal government raises gold import duty by 2 percent to 6 percent. Jan 22 -- The federal government more than doubles duty on raw gold to 5 percent. Jan 30 -- Finance Minister P. Chidambaram says no plans for additional taxes or curbs on gold imports. Feb 1 -- India's central bank plans to introduce three to four gold-linked products in the next few months. Feb 6 -- India's central bank says it would consider imposing value and quantity restrictions on gold imports by banks. Feb 14 -- The central bank relaxes rules on gold deposit schemes offered by banks by allowing lenders to offer the products with shorter maturities. Feb 20 -- India's trade ministry recommends suspending cheaper gold jewellery imports from Thailand. Feb 28 -- India keeps its gold import duty unchanged in its annual national budget, defying industry expectations. Feb 28 -- India proposes a transaction tax of 0.01 percent on non-agricultural futures contracts including precious metals. March 1 -- India's finance minister appeals to people not to buy so much gold. March 18 -- The Reserve Bank of India says it is examining banks that sell gold coins and wealth management products to identify "systemic issues", with a view to closing any legal loopholes. April 2 -- Finance Minister suggests unlikely to raise the import tax on gold further to avoid smuggling and would instead introduce inflation-indexed instruments. May 3 -- India's central bank restricts the import of gold on a consignment basis by banks. June 3 -- Finance minister says India cannot afford high levels of gold imports and may review its import policy. June 5 -- India hikes gold import duty by a third to 8 percent. June 21 -- Reliance Capital halts gold sales and investments in its gold-backed funds. June 24 -- India's biggest jewellers' association asks members to stop selling gold bars and coins, about 35 percent of their business. July 10 -- India's jewellers could continue a voluntary ban on sales of gold coins and bars for six months. July 22 -- India's central bank moves to tighten gold imports again, making them dependent on export volumes, but offers relief to domestic sellers by lifting restrictions on credit deals.

From April 1st , 2013:

Quote: The customs authorities are cracking down on Indians bringing gold into the country after spending a year or more abroad. The move is aimed at non-resident Indians and those not ordinarily resident.

The degree of vigilance has increased at international airports in India and a punitive fine is being imposed to prevent the easy entry of gold, which is in keeping with Union Finance Minister P. Chidambaram's Budget directives. 

The new rule, which came into effect from April 1, 2013 after P Chidambaram's budget announcement, says if a passenger has been abroad for a year or more then he or she can carry jewellery up to a prescribed limit.

In order to contain the fallout of people sneaking in gold, the level of punitive taxation was ramped up significantly. For those who have not resided in a foreign country for over a year the passenger will have to declare the jewellery at customs and pay a 35 per cent duty fee along with a 3 per cent education cess, making it an effective duty rate of 36.05 per cent

Comprehensive package, looks like designed by the USG ( after having read USG memos during London gold pool closing and run up to that event) . I would say quite influential diplomatic shuttling to ramp up Indias efforts as much as they would give in facing obviously domestic repercussions. To raise duties from 2% to 15% in 10 months plus a lot of other actions- and the results are visible as Indian official imports shrink dramatically while black via Thailand can not compensate. 

Main carrot as usual in USA case is offering better military equipment on good terms. 

The USG never gives up until there are results instead of talk. In the chart below, results appear in JUNE 2013 and are really good in August 2013- 3,4(!) tons . September imports has been 11 tons , October estimate is 23,5 tons.  The silver imports are increasing though. 

We can see Thailand picked up India's part of demand in 2013- to export or smuggle it to India:

Question: What is happening right now in Thailand. That is the stick. Besides there have been duties etc. between Thailand and India introduced, but what USG cares is performance. No performance , you get a small revolution. 


Dec 4, 2013 - 7:30am

@ Mr. Fix

I bought the MMS from:

however you can query it and get it from multiple suppliers.

here is a list of international suppliers:

I have not looked at the ingredient suppliers nor made it from the basic ingredients as $20 is sufficient for most people to solve their problems. Jim Humble has however published his formula so that anybody can make it. 

What a unique idea, publish the formula so anybody can make it and ask suppliers to keep the price at $20 so anybody can afford a few cents per dose. Must be a scam right, snake oil perhaps.

For all, please do your own due diligence, I only offered our personal experience.

Dec 4, 2013 - 7:38am

50 year TA veteran Ron Rosen's latest . . .


Your old Cap’n is always out there looking to protect his crew from those who would try to steer them away from the biggest gold bull market this planet has ever seen. Gold bottomed 7 months ago and crude oil broke out seven months ago. The bull is alive and well. He started up 7 months ago. It takes an old one who is familiar with the treacheries of the markets to protect his crew. "

Dec 4, 2013 - 8:22am

@ silverleaf

Actually, it is Chlorine Dioxide when it is mixed.

Chlorine dioxide is not a bleach or chlorine, if fact it is the preferred method to clean water, fruit, hospitals among many other uses. You can check some of them out here:

Everybody thinking about using MMS should do their our due diligence.

Here is a link that provides further background as well as the links to the books containing the formula.

Dec 4, 2013 - 8:52am


Thank you for the MMS info. I am about to order some from the site you recommend. My father-in-law has prostate cancer and I have a growing problem. I have been reading and researching all of this since you started posting yesterday, and am convinced I should try it. I will let you know.

Dec 4, 2013 - 9:06am

Explain the pop in the metals?

Normally they get smacked down on a positive jobs report

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