Sick of The Lies and The Liars

Mon, Nov 11, 2013 - 12:13pm

I'm no longer willing to let the Cartel apologists run roughshod over the good guys. I will not back down and I will not allow you to be misled and deceived.

Simply put, I'm fed up.

Fed up with the lies and The Liars that promote them. I could turn this into a 1000-word post, replete with examples and counter-points but I've already done that countless times and I don't want to get sidetracked. This post is dedicated to The Liars.

Let's begin with two, simple points. The current, fiat currency scheme is based solely upon trust and confidence. Without trust and confidence, the scheme collapses. The ultimate indicator of lack of trust and confidence is gold. Gold and silver are money. They have been for millennia and shall be forever.

The current system scheme fraud has been explained in many ways by many different analysts. None, however, have explained it more clearly than Mike Maloney and his team at Please take time, right now, to watch this entire video. Then, copy the link and send it to all of your friends and family. Knowledge is power and, if we are to escape our inexorable march to serfdom, as many as possible must be awakened and informed.

Now that you understand how the system scheme fraud works, you should finally have an appreciation for the rationale of gold price suppression. Again, gold is sound money and a rising price represents a direct threat to the hegemony of the current system of power. It is therefore logical that it's price would be suppressed and manipulated by the controlling powers. As detailed in Ferdinand Lips' outstanding book "Gold Wars" (, this manipulation has continued for decades:

  • Following Bretton Woods, the price of gold was directly managed to keep it near the "exchange rate" of $35/ounce throughout the decade of the 1950s.
  • The London Gold Pool was created in 1961. Supplied with gold by eight, different countries, the goal of the "Pool" was to supply dump physical gold into the market each time gold threatened to move away from $35/ounce.
  • After Milhous the 1st closed "the gold window" in 1971, there was a clamor to acquire physical gold. American citizens were finally allowed to purchase gold again on 1/1/75. Created expressly to control price, Comex gold futures began trading on 12/31/74.
  • You see, gold manipulation is not a "conspiracy theory", it is a HISTORICAL FACT. Those that deny this FACT can only do so under the following conditions:

  • That person is underinformed and/or naive.
  • That person is an ardent believer in the status quo (see bullet point above).
  • That person has an agenda and is purposefully trying to mislead you.
  • Which brings me to the point of this post. I'm sick of playing defense. The Liars and Cartel Apologists regularly run misrepresentations and half-truths, while at the same time performing character assassination on those who are simply trying to awaken the masses to the seriousness of the situation and warn of what lies ahead.

    Personally, I've been labeled as a "charlatan" and a "cult leader". It's been written that I am only interested in "trolling for donations" and "ad clicks" but this is nothing compared to the constant harassment of folks such as Jim Sinclair, Chris and Bill at GATA and Andrew Maguire. But we are all only interested in the truth and have nothing to hide so why should we be put on the defensive all of the time? The time for defense is over.

    Who is Jeffrey Christian and what is his business? How about his pals ErikT, Bron and Kitco? What are their motives? What about sites like Screwtape and "personalities" like Kid Dynamite? Who supports them and what drives their interest? Since gold price suppression is HISTORICAL FACT, what is the hidden agenda of these folks? Are they on the take, secretly supported by a cabal of interests, intent on preserving the status quo?

    In the interest of full disclosure, read this:

    My name is Craig Hemke. I live in Kansas, USA. I've been trading commodities options for over 25 years while working as a stockbroker and mutual fund wholesaler. After leaving the corporate ladder in 2008, I opened two businesses. One was a spectacular failure ( and the other (a frozen yogurt store) is barely scraping by. All of my interest in this subject matter comes from the heart and a desire to prepare myself and my family for what lies ahead. I share my insights willingly through this site, which many thousands worldwide visit on a daily basis. My work is supported and this site is made possible by the advertisers on the right side of the page, affiliations in the "store", periodic donations from grateful readers and the Vault subscribers. That's it. I have nothing to hide. No hidden agenda or deep-pocketed sponsors.

    I challenge those that disparage me and my efforts to similarly make their intentions public. Who is Kid Dynamite? Who really are Jeanne d'Arc, the crew at Screwtape and the bloggers of the Kitco boards? What are their names and what are their real jobs? What is Jeffrey Christian's background and who are CPM Group's clients? Who are his sources and from where does he get his information? What is CPM's business model and how do they profit? How about Kitco and The Perth Mint? Perhaps they can explain how pooled, unallocated accounts work. I'm not alleging fraud or malfeasance but I do think that folks need to know where there might be conflicts of interest in this fight. Bron Sucheki is a registered user of this site so perhaps he'll take a few moments to comment.

    Lastly, it's time to make some changes. For starters, I was alerted to this article over the weekend:

    As a response, I suggest and will do the following:

    • Hard Assets Investor, for promoting the lies and misinformation of Jeffrey Christian, has been banned from this site. As their only contribution has been to spam threads with links, they likely won't be missed.
    • I want to strongly urge everyone currently doing business with Bullion Vault to consider other alternatives. They picked up the HAI article and reposted it to their site. The simple question is: Why would anyone seeking The Truth support a site and business that promotes the garbage that The Liars spew? Please consider Hard Assets Alliance and GoldMoney, instead. Both are affiliates of this site.
    • As soon as they can get to it, The Tech Team will be removing the Kitco charts from the homepage of this site as I do not want to be associated with them in any way. Not sure which company's charts will replace them but I'm open to ideas.
    • Any references to Jeffrey Christian and all future attempts by him to disparage, slander and libel the character of those seeking The Truth will be met rebuttal and demand for full disclosure and honest representation of motive.

    In the end, and as stated above, knowledge is power. You must educate yourself. Take the time to watch and rewatch the videos from Mike Maloney and others. Read Mr. Lips' extraordinary book. This is not a time for passive apathy. You must know history in order to prepare for what is to come because "what is past is prologue" and the tempest of upheaval is upon us. This site will always be here to assure you that you are not alone in this fight. Persevere and prepare and be sure to always seek The Truth.

    TF (Craig)

    p.s. As you search for The Truth, please don't set out on a road trip, seeking the counsel of the all-knowing Turd. All that I know is already provided through this site. Besides, you must be mindful that you never want to sneak up on someone who is always and at all times prepared for anything.

    About the Author

    turd [at] tfmetalsreport [dot] com ()


    ancientmoney Karankawa
    Nov 11, 2013 - 9:45pm

    @Karankawa re: choose leadership??

    I'm not advocating for choosing any sort of "leadership." I want to hear more about why Neilson was censored, if indeed he was.

    GATA, which I respect, said they receive no funds from Rothschilds. Fair enough.

    Did they censor Neilson? They don't deny it.

    If so, why?

    Urban Roman tyberious
    Nov 11, 2013 - 9:46pm

    The $2500 Tatamobile

    By golly, they've reinvented the 1956 VW Beetle.

    Response to: Why

    Nov 11, 2013 - 9:49pm

    Turd Rocks

    Turd, you rock! I love it here in Turdville, you've built it up to what is, and it is one unbeatable community. Although you've told us your name, you will always remain Turd to me. A million thanks Turd.

    Nov 11, 2013 - 9:49pm

    We will win the war

    Apparently there is very little gold and silver left that BIS and the Fed have to use to pay off China, Russia , Southeast Asia so they can keep the dollar up. And when the gold and silver are all gone all the charlatains will be gonewith it.Turd, the comex and the bullion banks have so little gold left there is no way they will get through December deliveries. China is preparing to back the Yuan with gold very soon and to have its own fix to compete with comex fix. Maybe Christian is hearing the footsteps outside his door getting louder so he tries to bluff his way and does the FED, BIS and their friends. Its not long now.

    Nov 11, 2013 - 9:50pm

    Were Gonna Take A Stand Dwight!!

    As I read Turd's post about taking a stand I immediately thought of the Office episode where Michael drives his car into a lake and tells Dwight that they are going to take a stand and take back what is rightfully theirs (gift baskets). I couldnt find the entire lake scene before this clip, but this has to be an all time top Office moment.

    BTW. I dont mean to make light of or show disrespect to your sentiments by posting this vid, Turd. I agree 100% and am thankful for your site and the insight it provides. Its good to have such like minded folks and Im sure our cause will be vindicated one day. I. Find that watching the Office can really help liven ones spirit when he feels down in the dumps.


    From Season 4 Episode 2.

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    CaribSurfKing Urban Roman
    Nov 11, 2013 - 9:50pm

    Thats my concern about Craig/Turd

    His intentions are good/long term analysis, but his knowledge of timing the market is shockingly bad!

    I hope all our sakes and especially Craig's, that finally, he gets his timing close to right and its in the next year or so!

    If its 1982 again, we are all f'ed!

    Our only hope is that real rates and nominal rates are 0/negative!

    Nov 11, 2013 - 9:53pm


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    Sorry, couldn't help my self

    Rainbow Man On The Silver Mountain
    Urban Roman
    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:00pm

    So I was sitting in Maudie's

    drinking a rita. Tonight I'm on my own 'cos the spousal unit is taking care of her ancient mum. ...

    And across the way is a table with three ponytailed, bearded, bespectacled men and a walking-the-gender-tightrope um, person, all very serious looking, very much like Austinites, and they were discussing something. I couldn't make out all the words. "Bla blah, f*king sticky windows, bla bla. Bla bla, Microsoft, blah bla."

    Anywho, it made me think -- Turd, your webmonkeys could totally do it. They could take a raw data feed from someplace (where do you get those from anyway?), and cook up a set of TFMR charts, maybe even a widget that other websites could chunk into a page and completely replace the kitco thing.

    Just sayin' ....

    ancientmoney CaribSurfKing
    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:03pm

    @carib re: timing . . .

    "His intentions are good/long term analysis, but his knowledge of timing the market is shockingly bad!

    I hope all our sakes and especially Craig's, that finally, he gets his timing close to right and its in the next year or so!"


    So, why in the hell are you reading this stuff, and making decisions based on it when you are so knowledgeable?

    Seems to me you are trying to make fiat profits from PMs. Good luck with that.

    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:09pm

    To All the Vets out there

    Offering deepest gratitude. Wishing you tremendous prosperity and peace.

    The masses know your selfless dedication; they do.

    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:10pm


    throw trader Dan on the list. Sick of his bullshit too.

    Gold Dog
    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:11pm

    Cal Lawyer

    You are too kind to this old dog! I am having lunch tomorrow with a suspected billionaire......owns much land.

    The reason I invited him to lunch was to pick his brain about what's going on from a macro standpoint in the global economy. I will be making some moves and want some different viewpoints to be sure I am not being "too clever by half".

    Turd, I have spent many a happy day in Kansas. As a matter of fact when I stopped being a traveler I attended KU for a year just so I could argue economics with the Good Doctor Leyland Pritchard. I also was lucky enough to share an apartment with two very nice but not very proper young blond ladies. That's another story for another time.

    On a side note, I have taken steps to open an account at DNB in Oslo to be held in Kronor. GOTS!

    I am expecting some pretty big, (for me), amounts of cash to be coming in and with the bail-in rip off going live 1/1/14 I want my money in a safe bank with a strong Central Bank behind it. Simon Black at Sovereign Man had a list of strong CB's and banks a couple of months back. (Thanks ACH.)

    Also from Simon, I will be seeking Permanent Resident status in Chile. Turns out my wife and I know more people there than we could have guessed and I want a Southern Hemisphere bug out in case Tepco keeps acting the way they do.

    The above picture of the Sun got me thinking about a fun fact I learned a couple of years ago. It takes millennia for the light generated in the core of the Sun to reach the surface. Today's natural light started it's journey while we were still living in caves!

    Your friend,


    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:12pm

    One-hundred and ninetieth

    Somehow I missed winning the race for first... Anyway... Onto the topic...

    I see Kitco did eventually post (more or less) Andrew Maguire's response to CPM's allegations. But it took them over a day to cut and paste the paragraphs into an article - not posting it intact but putting it into context of the dispute, changing the paragraph order as they did so.

    That has 2 effects: It breaks up the logical flow of AM's response, somewhat diluting it as it now becomes portrayed as '#1 says, #2 says' spat. It also makes it hard to see if the response has been presented in full. I ended up printing both versions and attacking it with a highlighter.

    So now you're asking "What got deleted/missed out in the Kitco posting?"

    Actually they picked up most of it. But they missed out AM's:

    - References to directorships in successful companies - no point in talking about success?

    - Paragraph about his ex-wife's retail equity trading account - so if you follow the link to the allegations, you won't realize that AM provided rebuttal to the allegations of dismal trading performance. If that's a deliberate ommission, its subtle and sneaky.

    - Paragraph about not being given opportunity to rebut misinformation before it was posted

    - Summary, including his choice phrase about "exposing a very opaque and protected cabal of banks who are increasingly being caught manipulating global markets."

    Why didn't they just post the letter intact as given to them? It would have been easier. Makes me think you might be right to change those charts, Turd.

    Interestingly enough - if you visit the Kitco site and do a search for "Andrew Maguire" the allegations are ranked higher than the rebuttal. Not sure how they rank the order in which articles are listed but it makes me go hmmmmmm....

    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:13pm

    Gold Dog please elaborate 1/1/14

    conveyed confidently and is definite. What know ye??


    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:19pm

    Kansas Rocks!

    I am from Kansas, too. Everybody makes fun of Kansans, but we are a sensible folk and generous. We get enough tornadoes here to know we all need to be our brother's keeper because we might be the next one that needs help pulling the rubble off our house.

    Amazing Standstill Tornado


    Mr. Fix
    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:22pm
    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:22pm
    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:24pm

    As a veteran . . .

    I do appreciate it when a citizen says "thank you" to me for my service. But guilt is present.

    While I served during the Viet Nam conflict, I served stateside, never seeing combat. I would have went into cobat willingly if called upon, back then, as I believed our leaders were righteous.

    Today, if the draft were reinstituted, I would buy a one-way ticket for my sons to Canada. The elite pick where our young men and women will die to keep them fat and sassy. I want no part of that for my children.

    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:24pm

    @ Gold Dog

    I'm not sure if you have been already scoping out land down in Chile, but I have found this on the net.

    Since I'm a poor schmuck, I can't afford a full lot, but have been contemplating a fractional owner membership.


    Gold Dog
    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:25pm


    Couldn't find the story I read with the date in it but I have been tracking it for some time....Dodd-Frank and the BISons-of- bitchs have it cued up.



    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:25pm
    Mr. Fix
    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:29pm

    Mr Fix

    I'm watching. It's my job.

    That said, today's podcast reiterates what we discussed last Friday about the expected price action this week.

    Mr. Fix
    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:31pm

    Sounds like a twisted spin on a "anti- free gold":

    What A Confidential 1974 Memo To Paul Volcker Reveals About America's True Views On Gold, Reserve Currency And "PetroGold"

    Submitted by Tyler Durden on 11/11/2013 - 22:09

    "U.S. objectives for world monetary system—a durable, stable system, with the SDR as a strong reserve asset at its center — are incompatible with a continued important role for gold as a reserve asset.... It is the U.S. concern that any substantial increase now in the price at which official gold transactions are made would strengthen the position of gold in the system, and cripple the SDR... Countries could give up their gold holdings to the IMF in exchange for SDRs. The gold could then be sold gradually, over time, by the IMF to the private market.... There is a belief among certain Europeans that a higher price of gold for settlement purposes would facilitate financing of oil imports... From the Arab point of view [gold] would have the advantages of being protected from exchange-rate changes and inflation, and subject to absolute national control. "

    Sorry Craig, you beat me to it.

    Mr. Fix
    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:36pm

    I know you watch this stuff,

    Now I feel like I'm on the outside looking in, since my fault membership expired.

    I guess that's what I get for the price I didn't pay.

    Just couldn't justify the fee with the other half, but I'm working on it.

    Gold Dog
    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:41pm


    Thanks for the link.

    We will have to spend 180 days in Chile over twelve months to qualify, and then visit for at least one day a year for the next four years to become "permanent".

    I have some appointments set up to investigate purchasing water rights, the due diligence will be quite time consuming, but will definitely be checking into GGC as a potential place to build a palapa for the family.



    Mr. Fix
    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:43pm

    From the article...

    First of all, a big Hat Tip to Koos Jansen as the source for the ZH piece.

    For the purposes of this thread, here's the money shot:

    "The memo is a continuation of the US thinking on the issue of the then brand new SDR, the fate of paper currencies, and the preservation of US control over reserve currency status. Most importantly, it addresses several approaches to dominating gold as well as the US' interest of banning gold from monetary system and capping the free market price."


    Mr. Fix
    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:46pm


    Well, screw that! I just comped you a month.

    Give Mrs Fix a kiss for me.

    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:54pm

    Karen Hudes Interview:

    Man, there are some frigging wild, potentially terrifying...maybe hopeful.. statements in this interview. She has the credentials... Interested to see what other Turdites think. An eye opening 33 mminutes:

    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:55pm

    Harvey's Up! (TFMR)

    • Bill Holter on lies: I have been asked repeatedly, "If the markets are rigged then why can't they just continue to be rigged forever? What will change or stop the riggers from doing what they do?" The fact that this question is being asked more often and by more and more people makes me think that from a "timing" standpoint we are much closer to an end than the beginning and the little kid pointing at a naked king won't be far off. Secondly and more importantly, markets can be rigged for a time but the major directions of markets can only be delayed, not reversed. "Rigging" markets is the same thing as "lying". The problem that liars come up against is that after the first lie is told, other lies by definition must be told to explain the first or previous lies. As more and more lies are told, the "liar" must remember all past lies so that future lies can be "credible" or make sense.
    • Eric King: Sentiment in the silver market has now collapsed to levels which match the June 27th low. This historic collapse in investor sentiment has taken place even as the price of silver is still roughly 17% higher than it was on that memorable low from June 27th. The number of bulls in the silver market has now plunged a staggering 69% from the peak set in 2011.
    • Robert Fitzwilson: The Sword of Damocles hangs over all of our heads. Logic and the human experience tell us that the financial system is rapidly approaching the end of the line. There are bubbles everywhere and no easy way out. However, remaining in cash is not a risk-free option. Rising prices guarantees that the cash will continue to diminish in value. The risk of 'bail-ins' is also a terrible possibility.
    • Dr. Paul Craig Roberts: The banks are not lending, because people are broke and in debt So, what do the banks do with the money? They speculate in stock futures. Meaning, the half a trillion dollars that the Fed pours into the banks, the few banks that are too-big-to-fail, it goes into the stock market and drives up the prices. Well, this is artificial -- it’s not real. So, yes, if you are doing the right thing you are not participating in the gambling casino. The problem is that if you jump into the casino, you don’t know at what moment the rug will be pulled out from under it.
    • Harvey: GOFO numbers are now all increasing in the positive, and all GOFO rates are now positive. GLD: Gold was unchanged at 868.42. I am now a happy camper as I feel that they have exhausted supplies from the GLD. No doubt if the GLD were to decline it would be cause of the raid on Friday and today!! I am glad to see this. It is quite possible that the GLD boys have run out of physical gold to supply Shanghai. SLV: Silver was unchanged and stands at 10,497.75.
    • Michael O’Brien: When [the fit hits the Shan], how will your pension fund reward you? Gold has outperformed the both Irish bank deposit rates and the ISEQ (Irish stock exchange) over the past 10 years. From November 2003 to October 2013 gold has risen 37%. During that same time Irish bank deposits gained 8%. ISEQ gained 3% and cash under the mattress lost 5% due to inflation.
    • Patrick Jenkins and Jack Farchy: Britain's parliamentary financial watchdog has urged regulators to probe potential abuses in metals markets as deeply as they are investigating the ongoing scandals over foreign exchange and Libor benchmark interest rates. MPs were conscious of growing concerns that the manipulation of rates -- already exposed in the Libor affair, and now under investigation in a mounting regulatory probe into potential forex abuses -- may go well beyond those areas and into metals markets.
    • Peter Grandich: First and foremost, I like to thank Almighty God for His Grace. I also want to thank Michael Campbell and everyone at for this wonderful opportunity to return to what I love to do best – talk about markets and economics. So while I may from time to time have a short-term thought, the vast majority of my observations shall be for the long-term (which when I started back 30 years ago was measured in years and to many now is minutes or hours). Another critical factor of mine is to realize that the markets themselves are very unfair and most investors will not profit in the long run.
    • Bill Holter: So what exactly just happened over the weekend? Negotiations took place between the 6+1 (US, Russia, China, France, Britain, Germany and Iran) group and talks broke down because of the French? Actually it's been reported that the French and Saudis have formed some sort of alliance and both were not in favor of a deal. "Sides" are being blurred and changed as in this case the U.S. and Israel were apparently on two separate sides
    • Tyler Durden: One of the mysteries surrounding the insolvent, and already once bailed out Spanish banking sector, has been the question why reported bad loans - sharply rising as they may be - are still as relatively low as they are currently, considering the nation's near highest in the Eurozone unemployment rate. It turns out that for the past several years, instead of accurately designating non-performing loans, banks would constantly "refinance" bad loans making them appear viable even though banks have known full well there would be zero recoveries on those loans.

    All this and more on...

    The Harvey Report!


    Fred Hayek
    Nov 11, 2013 - 10:56pm

    Bravo Turd!

    I like it.

    Turn up the heat on them.

    A couple of posters here who specialize in spinning whiny bitch stories of people who bought in 1980 or criticizing your predictions while making comically definitive predictions of their own that the price of PM's will only go down . . well, he's Turd but you guys are turds. You really are. You're scrofulous.

    You know what you're doing. But you don't care. Karma's a bitch boys. It's a real bitch. When you consciously work to hurt people, consciously work to hurt little people on behalf of big people, well, don't look behind you, karma might be gaining on you. And it's a bitch. It will get you in ways you never considered.


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