Sick of The Lies and The Liars

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Mon, Nov 11, 2013 - 12:13pm

I'm no longer willing to let the Cartel apologists run roughshod over the good guys. I will not back down and I will not allow you to be misled and deceived.

Simply put, I'm fed up.

Fed up with the lies and The Liars that promote them. I could turn this into a 1000-word post, replete with examples and counter-points but I've already done that countless times and I don't want to get sidetracked. This post is dedicated to The Liars.

Let's begin with two, simple points. The current, fiat currency scheme is based solely upon trust and confidence. Without trust and confidence, the scheme collapses. The ultimate indicator of lack of trust and confidence is gold. Gold and silver are money. They have been for millennia and shall be forever.

The current system scheme fraud has been explained in many ways by many different analysts. None, however, have explained it more clearly than Mike Maloney and his team at goldsilver.com. Please take time, right now, to watch this entire video. Then, copy the link and send it to all of your friends and family. Knowledge is power and, if we are to escape our inexorable march to serfdom, as many as possible must be awakened and informed.

Now that you understand how the system scheme fraud works, you should finally have an appreciation for the rationale of gold price suppression. Again, gold is sound money and a rising price represents a direct threat to the hegemony of the current system of power. It is therefore logical that it's price would be suppressed and manipulated by the controlling powers. As detailed in Ferdinand Lips' outstanding book "Gold Wars" (https://www.tfmetalsreport.com/blog/5151/gold-wars), this manipulation has continued for decades:

  • Following Bretton Woods, the price of gold was directly managed to keep it near the "exchange rate" of $35/ounce throughout the decade of the 1950s.
  • The London Gold Pool was created in 1961. Supplied with gold by eight, different countries, the goal of the "Pool" was to supply dump physical gold into the market each time gold threatened to move away from $35/ounce.
  • After Milhous the 1st closed "the gold window" in 1971, there was a clamor to acquire physical gold. American citizens were finally allowed to purchase gold again on 1/1/75. Created expressly to control price, Comex gold futures began trading on 12/31/74.
  • You see, gold manipulation is not a "conspiracy theory", it is a HISTORICAL FACT. Those that deny this FACT can only do so under the following conditions:

  • That person is underinformed and/or naive.
  • That person is an ardent believer in the status quo (see bullet point above).
  • That person has an agenda and is purposefully trying to mislead you.
  • Which brings me to the point of this post. I'm sick of playing defense. The Liars and Cartel Apologists regularly run misrepresentations and half-truths, while at the same time performing character assassination on those who are simply trying to awaken the masses to the seriousness of the situation and warn of what lies ahead.

    Personally, I've been labeled as a "charlatan" and a "cult leader". It's been written that I am only interested in "trolling for donations" and "ad clicks" but this is nothing compared to the constant harassment of folks such as Jim Sinclair, Chris and Bill at GATA and Andrew Maguire. But we are all only interested in the truth and have nothing to hide so why should we be put on the defensive all of the time? The time for defense is over.

    Who is Jeffrey Christian and what is his business? How about his pals ErikT, Bron and Kitco? What are their motives? What about sites like Screwtape and "personalities" like Kid Dynamite? Who supports them and what drives their interest? Since gold price suppression is HISTORICAL FACT, what is the hidden agenda of these folks? Are they on the take, secretly supported by a cabal of interests, intent on preserving the status quo?

    In the interest of full disclosure, read this:

    My name is Craig Hemke. I live in Kansas, USA. I've been trading commodities options for over 25 years while working as a stockbroker and mutual fund wholesaler. After leaving the corporate ladder in 2008, I opened two businesses. One was a spectacular failure (www.buyapension.com) and the other (a frozen yogurt store) is barely scraping by. All of my interest in this subject matter comes from the heart and a desire to prepare myself and my family for what lies ahead. I share my insights willingly through this site, which many thousands worldwide visit on a daily basis. My work is supported and this site is made possible by the advertisers on the right side of the page, affiliations in the "store", periodic donations from grateful readers and the Vault subscribers. That's it. I have nothing to hide. No hidden agenda or deep-pocketed sponsors.

    I challenge those that disparage me and my efforts to similarly make their intentions public. Who is Kid Dynamite? Who really are Jeanne d'Arc, the crew at Screwtape and the bloggers of the Kitco boards? What are their names and what are their real jobs? What is Jeffrey Christian's background and who are CPM Group's clients? Who are his sources and from where does he get his information? What is CPM's business model and how do they profit? How about Kitco and The Perth Mint? Perhaps they can explain how pooled, unallocated accounts work. I'm not alleging fraud or malfeasance but I do think that folks need to know where there might be conflicts of interest in this fight. Bron Sucheki is a registered user of this site so perhaps he'll take a few moments to comment.

    Lastly, it's time to make some changes. For starters, I was alerted to this article over the weekend:

    https://goldnews.bullionvault.com/gold-prices-110720134

    As a response, I suggest and will do the following:

    • Hard Assets Investor, for promoting the lies and misinformation of Jeffrey Christian, has been banned from this site. As their only contribution has been to spam threads with links, they likely won't be missed.
    • I want to strongly urge everyone currently doing business with Bullion Vault to consider other alternatives. They picked up the HAI article and reposted it to their site. The simple question is: Why would anyone seeking The Truth support a site and business that promotes the garbage that The Liars spew? Please consider Hard Assets Alliance and GoldMoney, instead. Both are affiliates of this site.
    • As soon as they can get to it, The Tech Team will be removing the Kitco charts from the homepage of this site as I do not want to be associated with them in any way. Not sure which company's charts will replace them but I'm open to ideas.
    • Any references to Jeffrey Christian and all future attempts by him to disparage, slander and libel the character of those seeking The Truth will be met rebuttal and demand for full disclosure and honest representation of motive.

    In the end, and as stated above, knowledge is power. You must educate yourself. Take the time to watch and rewatch the videos from Mike Maloney and others. Read Mr. Lips' extraordinary book. This is not a time for passive apathy. You must know history in order to prepare for what is to come because "what is past is prologue" and the tempest of upheaval is upon us. This site will always be here to assure you that you are not alone in this fight. Persevere and prepare and be sure to always seek The Truth.

    TF (Craig)

    p.s. As you search for The Truth, please don't set out on a road trip, seeking the counsel of the all-knowing Turd. All that I know is already provided through this site. Besides, you must be mindful that you never want to sneak up on someone who is always and at all times prepared for anything.

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      311 Comments

    Teach · Nov 11, 2013 - 6:52pm

    Sick of the lies...It's going around.

    Craig..it's nice to meet you. My name's Greg, but my friends call me teach. Thanks for all that you do. No one ever said being in the right was easy. A song for all us Turdites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGWaKvllVVw

    tyberious · Nov 11, 2013 - 6:54pm

    PM shills

    Hmmm, I wonder if the Rockefellers are shills, how about the Rothschilds, or the Vatican? Oh the Chinese are shills, how about any buying central banks? Please self analyze your statements prior to posting, or else I'll do it for you!

    tyberious · Nov 11, 2013 - 6:55pm

    New Executive Order Gives

    New Executive Order Gives Obama Nearly Unlimited Power

    Obama Is The King God Has Given To Reign Over America In The Last Days

    beforeitsnews.com / Sunday, November 10, 2013 21:24

    Obama signed a new executive order on Friday that gives him and the federal government unlimited power over all fossil fuels, land, water, air space.

    Through the guise of dealing with global warming, the new order can be used to justify any action against you, from preventing you to make changes to your property to any activity that could possibly increase greenhouse gasses.

    Executive orders are unconstitutional in the first place by creating laws outside the legislative process.

    This is ‘in your face’ totalitarianism!

    Through the stroke of the pen, President Obama on Friday used his executive powers to elevate and take control of climate change policies in an attempt to streamline sustainability initiatives – and potentially skirt legislative oversight and push a federal agenda on states.

    READ MORE

    tyberious · Nov 11, 2013 - 6:59pm

    74% Want to Audit the Federal

    74% Want to Audit the Federal Reserve

    rasmussenreports.com / Friday, November 08, 2013

    Americans still overwhelmingly favor a public audit of the Federal Reserve, perhaps in part because a sizable number think the Fed chairman has too much power over the economy.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 74% of American Adults favor auditing the Federal Reserve and making the results available to the public. Just 10% oppose such an audit, but 16% are not sure. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

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    tyberious · Nov 11, 2013 - 6:59pm

    Why

    Why Not?

    ericpetersautos.com / by eric / November 9, 2013

    In this economy, can anyone seriously doubt that there is a market for simple, reliable – and inexpensive – transportation?

    In any case, why not let the market operate? Why not allow (god, how I hate that term) Tata or Cherry (or whomever) to offer their basic, low-cost cars for sale here – and see whether people are interested?

    You and I know why this will not be allowed, of course. Precisely because people would buy such cars – and that would impose pressure on the industry at large to simplify their offerings, too – and reduce the cost.

    Can’t have that.

    It is critical to keep people perpetually in debt. Why allow them to buy a new $6,000 car outright – or pay it off in two or three years (as was common once – and within living memory of any person older than 40) when you can effectively force them to buy a $30,000 car (the average price paid for a new vehicle as of last year) and sign them up for 5 or 6 years of payments? And force them to spend $1,000 annually to insure it, too?

    That’s the truth of the thing.

    It’s not about “safety” – or any other such altruistic palaver.

    It is about power – control.

    And, of course, money.

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    tyberious · Nov 11, 2013 - 7:00pm

    Feds Deploy National Spy

    Feds Deploy National Spy System of Microphones Capable of Recording Conversations

    infowars.com / Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones / November 11, 2013

    The Washington Post recently published a feature length article on gunshot detectors, known as ShotSpotter, which detailed how in Washington DC there are now, “at least 300 acoustic sensors across 20 square miles of the city,” microphones wrapped in a weather-proof shell that can detect the location of a sound down to a few yards and analyze the audio using a computer program.

    While the systems are touted as “gunshot detectors,” as the New York Times reported in May 2012, similar technology is already installed in over 70 cities around the country, and in some cases it is being used to listen to conversations.

    “In at least one city, New Bedford, Mass., where sensors recorded a loud street argument that accompanied a fatal shooting in December, the system has raised questions about privacy and the reach of police surveillance, even in the service of reducing gun violence,” states the report.

    Frank Camera, the lawyer for Jonathan Flores, a man charged with murder, complained that the technology is “opening up a whole can of worms.”

    “If the police are utilizing these conversations, then the issue is, where does it stop?” he said.

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    silver66 · Nov 11, 2013 - 7:00pm

    100 Hat tips to Mrs Trud

    Turd, looking at your bio you walked away from a big expense account and I am pretty sure many great regional and national conferences to start a business with no guarantee of success. Mrs Turd would have enjoyed those conferences with you and lets not kid ourselves, staying at nice hotels and eating the best food on the companies nickel is fun.

    You tried a business and failed,going from the penthouse to the outhouse so to speak. Burning $300K is stressful enough, add to that, the public display of a failing business will turn anyones hair silver. I think it is tougher on our spouses as they become our biggest cheerleaders and support system. All the while Mrs Turd was raising the little turds. From what I have read into your postings about family and seeing a little turd during the raffle, it looks like she has done a great job. Hats off and a big hat tip to her.

    I tell my kids, society does not mind failures, but society does not like quitters. You my Friend are definitely not a Quitter. I am impressed that you took the leap and tried an alternative distribution system to an entrenched system. Then after flaming out, you started two more business's. You get props from me Turd, but more importantly tell your wife tonight that there are people out here who want to acknowledge her contribution to your perseverance and success.

    As for the quote that was put up in Latin"don't let the bastards get you down" I would like to add the Silver66 family battle cry "fuck em " :-)

    Keep up the great work and God bless

    Silver66

    I Run Bartertown · Nov 11, 2013 - 7:13pm

    Craig Hemke?!?

    You sold me that crap life insurance! And I'm still pretty sure you f**ked my wife!

    But in exchange for all TEOTGKE insights, off the list you go!

    wink

    To all the man's critics, before you criticize TF, walk a mile in his shoes,

    then, at least,

    you'll be a mile away from your computer,

    and your sorry ass will finally have a decent pair of shoes.

    Clarki Stomias · Nov 11, 2013 - 7:13pm

    Here Here!

    Just wanted to second silver66's sentiments. And I may have to adopt that family battle cry as my own. 

    Thanks for all you do TFCH. Speak the truth and stay safe.

    Kansascrude · Nov 11, 2013 - 7:16pm

    Ad Astra " To the stars with difficulties (Kansas Motto)

    Hey Turd, A fellow Kansan, kind of got that sniff when you hit the Taylor Swift concert earlier this year. Down the road in Wichita area imagine you maybe a Johnson County Kansan. Right on its a fight and we all have underestimated the level the crooks will sink to in order to retain their powers. Also the low lifes that subsist in there environ, like maggots in a rotting carcass full of the rotten flesh, their putrid spew out on those seeking the truth. Hoping to deceive and preserve their hellhole of deceit for awhile longer. Banish them....and carry the fight onward!

    SRSrocco · Nov 11, 2013 - 7:33pm

    TURD... I COULDN'T AGREE MORE..

    I am actually FED-up with whole system myself. However, also this includes what I call the SUBSCRIPTION MILL. You don't know how many emails I have received from people who let me know just how much they got screwed from their paid service... and THIS IS FROM GOLD AND SILVER BUGS!

    There is so much Slander, Garbage & lies it's amazing. And that doesn't even include the majority of just plain 'ol LOUSY ANALYSIS.

    The United States is heading into two different Collapses. One is Financial-Paper collapse and the other an Energy-Physical collapse. I will be writing about that in a series of articles to come out soon.

    However, here is my newest post:

    U.S. TREASURY: Ramps Up the Zimbabwe Style Printing Press
    tmosley · Nov 11, 2013 - 7:33pm

    Stratejema and

    Stratejema and CaribSurfKing:

    Tell us your name, location, and line of work, and maybe we will listen to you and sell our silver to your masters.

    tyberious · Nov 11, 2013 - 7:38pm

    hahhahahahaah

    Obama Loves You

    NSA

    59LesPaul · Nov 11, 2013 - 7:41pm

    Re:Gold War.

    hey Turd,

    You're doing a great job. This is a gold war so don't let people like Jeffrey Christian and the like rile you up. It is their job to misinform people.

    Could you do a podcast with Jan Skoyles and Koos Jansen?

    BULL-ION · Nov 11, 2013 - 7:44pm

    Here's a LIE!

    This one made me laugh, then made me angry right after.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertlenzner/2013/11/11/gold-is-no-safe-haven-no-new-investment-class-no-substitute-for-paper-money/

    Anyways keep up the good work. Your workmanship is integral in this day and age.

    ancientmoney TF · Nov 11, 2013 - 8:32pm

    @TF re: Neilson and GATA . . .

    As you stated, and even Murphy of GATA stated, Jeff seems to be an upstanding guy, fighting the good fight. I concur with most everything he has written til now--and now I am at a loss.

    Everyone says he is off-base by saying Rothschild backs GATA, who denies the accusation. 

    Yet, GATA is not denying they have censored Neilson by ignoring his submissions, started after he named Rothschild as the "one bank." What gives?

    I am ready to pay for access to Turd's vault when Neilson is featured on a podcast to air this important issue.

    More truth will peel back the curtains.

    Lugnut · Nov 11, 2013 - 8:33pm

    Like when I throw something at the TV...

    Wow, Turd. Sounds like you are wound up like I get when I throw something at the TV while some dope on CNBC tries to tell me some lies. I'm with you 100%. And since 321gold.com thinks that there is no manipulation AND picked up the article from Kitco smearing Andrew, let 's all add them to the list of places to avoid. 

    tmosley · Nov 11, 2013 - 8:47pm

    Turd: You should get some IP

    Turd:

    You should get some IP addresses and trace them to the posters involved. With all that money from the Vault you could buy a LOT of plane tickets.

    Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back - Kick Some Ass
    ancientmoney Stratajema · Nov 11, 2013 - 8:57pm

    @Stratagema re: next year . . .

    "What will you do next year when the current lies of precious metal insiders are absolutely proven to be wrong? e.g. shortages, Comex collapse

    What will you do next year when the chaos and collapse of the economy, constantly predicted by websites such as King World News, Zerohedge, Silver Doctors, etc. does not happen?

    All you have to do is admit to yourself that you've been duped and then change who you listen to."

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Thanks for the comic relief, Strategyless.

    If you have all the inside dope, and know the future, pony up and start your own site. i might check it out next year.

    jackstar ancientmoney · Nov 11, 2013 - 9:01pm

    RE: Silver Eagles wait time . . .

    I placed an order for ASE's from Gainesville Oct. 31 and it was delivered today. Just FYI.

    Pete · Nov 11, 2013 - 9:09pm

    Right on Turd

    Hey Turd,

    This was an awesome, inspiring post. While I have nothing to add to the enthusiasm and appreciation of the other posters today, I would feel bad if I didn't say THANK YOU for all you have done and lived through to create this site.

    The HISTORICAL FACT of gold and silver price management by the financial elite is something we all need to remember in the face of the disinformation agents of all stripes--the Liars, and the Useful Idiots. 

    I am glad you highlighted Mike Maloney's video on the greatest con of fiat money, because it's just plain excellent.

    We are in a great battle against the financial elite, who despise the "great unwashed" beneath them; and their legislator puppets.

    We stand for a just society, and sound, natural money is integral to it. 

    Pete

    ancientmoney · Nov 11, 2013 - 9:13pm

    Silver's real value . . .

    In 1964 I got my first job, a paper route delivering the Milwaukee Journal to folks in Oconomowoc, WI. Halcyon days!

    I loved going to the paper office, where we had to assemble the Thursday and Sunday papers before going on or routes. 

    I don't recall if there was a minimum wage in 1964, though there was in 1968, as a beekeeper's assistant I earned that minimum, $1.25 an hour, plus getting my ass stung nearly everyday as a bonus.

    As a newbie paperboy, I had a route of 26 souls as I recall. I made about $9/week, delivering an hour a day 7 days a week. That $9 could be in silver in the last days of silver coinage production. $9/7 hours in silver today was worth about $1.25 an hour. Today, $1.25 in silver is worth about $19. 

    So, the minimum wage today is what, $7.50 per hour? As a paperboy I made today's equivalent of $19/hour because silver was the money then.

    Do you see why the elites took us off silver coinage? To keep more buying power to themselves.

    Robski · Nov 11, 2013 - 9:15pm

    Interesting last 3 days,

    I'll start w/ today, Turd's line in the sand. Wow! You could call it many things, from Courageous Craig's Call to Arms or Hopping Mad Hemke's Battlecry. ;)

    On another note, this last Saturday I attended the Republican Liberty Caucus of Idaho, here in Boise. Here's a list of just some of the speakers that were in attendance:

    Ben Swann, www.BenSwann.com
    Will Grigg, www.FreedomInOurTime.blogspot.com
    Connor Boyack, www.ConnorBoyack.com
    Stephanie Zimmerman, www.IdahoansForLocalEducation.com
    Phil Hart, www.ConstitutionalIncome.com
    Jeff Wright, www.TheCitizensLastStand.com



    Some of the Topics that were presented/discussed include:

    Liberty & the millennial generation
    Common Core (Federal Takeover of K-12 Education)
    Agenda 21 (The Rio Principles)
    The rise of the police state
    Federal control of State lands
    Crony Capitalism, your right to keep and bear arms
    Is the collapse imminent(what you can do to prepare)

    (Talk about a full day!)

    I was fortunate to be able to spend time and have long conversations with some of the above speakers. Ben Swann and I debated that Ron Paul has had more of an impact on American politics than most modern Presidents. After reflecting upon this conversation, I have come to the conclusion that the full impact of Ron Paul has not yet been observed. The impact of the kids of the people that he helped to wake up could be amazing.

    That's it for now,
    Robski

    Gent · Nov 11, 2013 - 9:26pm

    Another Scandal???

    {From Harvey's site}

    Regulators urged to probe metals markets abuse 
    Submitted by cpowell on Sun, 2013-11-10 22:27. Section: Daily Dispatches 
    If they were serious, they could start with their own central bank, the Bank of England. 
    * * * 
    By Patrick Jenkins and Jack Farchy 
    Financial Times, London 
    Sunday, November 10, 2013 
    https://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/c8c50b88-48a1-11e3-a3ef-00144feabdc0.html 
    Britain's parliamentary financial watchdog has urged regulators to probe potential abuses in metals markets as deeply as they are investigating the ongoing scandals over foreign exchange and Libor benchmark interest rates. 


    Andrew Tyrie, chairman of the Treasury select committee, told the Financial Times that MPs were conscious of growing concerns that the manipulation of rates -- already exposed in the Libor affair, and now under investigation in a mounting regulatory probe into potential forex abuses -- may go well beyond those areas and into metals markets. 


    "It is essential that the regulators do a thorough job to stamp out market fixing," Mr Tyrie said. "By the look of it, there is a great deal for them to do. The Treasury Committee will be looking closely at their conclusions." 


    Other members of the cross-party committee privately echoed Mr Tyrie's concerns about metals markets. 


    The Libor scandal has cost banks and brokers $3.5 billion in regulatory fines and some experts believe a brewing scandal around alleged foreign exchange manipulation could be even costlier, with regulators on three continents now investigating the affair. 


    Aluminium consumers have thrust the clubby metals industry into the glare of the regulatory spotlight in recent months, alleging that the price of the metal has been artificially inflated. In the United States, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission and the Department of Justice have launched probes into metals warehouses, where long queues for delivery have been the subject of heavy criticism. The UK's Financial Conduct Authority has not begun a formal probe of metals pricing, though it appeared obliquely critical of the London Metal Exchange last week. In a statement welcoming an initiative to shorten waiting times at LME-registered warehouses, the regulator said it would continue to monitor the LME's progress in "increasing the transparency of its market." 


    London is the home of global benchmark prices for industrial metals such as copper, aluminium, and zinc, which are traded on the LME, as well as precious metals, such as silver and gold. 


    Like Libor, both sets of benchmarks are set by a small group of banks and brokers. However, the benchmarks are set by thousands of actual transactions, rather than the theoretical price quotes used in Libor calculations. In a system that is comparable with the foreign exchange market, precious metals prices are set during intraday "fixings," while industrial metals prices are decided through the LME's open-outcry ring.

     
    Warehouses with long queues have been bidding in the market for additional metal to be deposited in their sheds, an action that aluminium buyers such as MillerCoors, the brewer, allege has restricted supplies and inflated their costs. 
    The LME's warehousing initiative last week, which promised a crackdown on any "abusive" behaviour by warehouses as well as a new rule to shorten queues, was an attempt to restore its reputation. 


    The FCA has stepped up its engagement with the metals exchange in recent months, people familiar with the situation said, as well as hiring external consultants to help it better understand the physical markets. 


    The LME said in a statement that it had a "close and continuous relationship" with its regulator, including close engagement over the warehousing reforms. "There is no investigation of the LME by the FCA of which we are aware," it added. 
    -END-


    Karankawa · Nov 11, 2013 - 9:29pm

    Again...

    Turd, wow this is a reply to some pages back.

    But you get it. You are drawing a line. You actually did so when you formed this site because you were making a stand for Principle. One of my first posts was this one.

    9/11: A Conspiracy Theory

    Got my ass banned immediatly. No problem. I came back, because I respect you and the TRUTH and knew where your heart was. I was rewarded by those here that respect it and have given me more.

    Most people don't understand (or haven't learned the history of the dark ages and the Inquisition. It is my bellief that the (price of gold and silver) are nothing more than the deciption of God's people.

    Just a heads up. The AntiChrist isn't coming, he's been here for a long time.

    It kills me that people have learned this Over and Over throughout the ages. ;)

    Thanks for forming this place, everyone searchiing for the truth will wind up at the same place.

    If you want more info, PM me.

    Karankawa · Nov 11, 2013 - 9:36pm

    @TF re: Neilson and GATA . . .

    ancient, I'm not sure it's significan at this to for people to 'choose' leadership. I think we are long past that, and hopefully so.

    Think about it. Even though I know you already have.

    Karankawa

    SteveW · Nov 11, 2013 - 9:36pm

    What Will You Do Next Year - Stratajema

    I guess I'll just keep buying gold and silver with my spare fiat, hopefully to pass along to my children, like some dumb shit. All being well I'll never need it and it could well pass on to my grandchildren and maybe their children.

    ancientmoney · Nov 11, 2013 - 9:39pm

    Some more real history . . .

    In the 1960's there were "gas wars" (where gas stations tried to get customers by dropping prices in competition) in my hometown of Oconomowoc (yes, that's a real town). Gas sold for as little as $.17/gallon at Albert's station on Wisconsin Avenue.

    $.17/gallon in silver is the equivalent of $2.60/gallon today.

    Think about that--two dimes got you well over a gallon of gas back then. Two silver dimes today will still get you a gallon of gas, even as silver prices are in a banker-created stranglehold that cannot last.

    What should you hold? Two silver dimes or two clad dimes issued after 1964? After all, the government says they are worth the identical amount.

    ReachWest · Nov 11, 2013 - 9:41pm

    Stratajema - says Gold $1000 next year.

    Gold to flirt with $1000, according to Stratajema. Hmm. Okay.

    This fellow Turdite appears to be in the know. (At least that is the tone of his/her posts.) He/she has laid out the case for such an event (.. well - not really - in fact, not at all). Turdites will see and understand it when we "let go". (Oh brother.. What a convincing argument.)

    Too much lipstick on that pig?

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