Whaddayagottalose?

151
Sat, Sep 28, 2013 - 11:25am

I mean, seriously. Why not sign the petition? It's worth a try.

This idea was floated yesterday by Eric Dubin at SilverDoctors. If you sign the petition and nothing ever comes of it, you'll have given away about one minute of your life that you won't get back. Otherwise, I don't see much downside to trying.

First, read the petition here: https://thenewsdoctors.com/bart-chilton-resign-and-become-a-whistleblower-open-letter-petition/

And then sign the petition here: https://www.gopetition.com/petitions/bart-chilton-resign-go-public-on-silver-manipulation.html

You'll note that yours truly was signatory #10.

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pforth
Sep 28, 2013 - 6:48pm

I was #32

But I still think this would be better if we tied a monetary reward to it, to compensate him for tossing his career in the trashbin. Of course there's a lot of work to put something like that together, unless it's just a nudge nudge wink wink from someone like Sprott.

surfeitndearth
Sep 28, 2013 - 6:49pm
woofwoof
Sep 28, 2013 - 7:13pm

@ silver foil hat

And it is your right not to participate. But it all depends on how you look at the world. While you may see it as an attempt to manipulate others including me see it as attempt to stop the manipulation. We all just want a level playing field. If the current game was fair, none of us would be having this discussion, including signing a petition.

Bugzy
Sep 28, 2013 - 7:14pm

now

378

pforth: Financial reward - this is more about morale high ground, you are beginning to think like a briber banker. You want to offer him more money than Dimon and a safe house in Moscow, never to return?

It is more about doing the right thing.

silver foil hat
Sep 28, 2013 - 7:15pm

Re-edited from a few years back....

la roux - bulletproof

another sfh parody

Been there done that messed around,
voted for change, you let me down
Never again you'll
sweep me off my feet.

I won't let you win again,
The messages I've tried to send,
My information's just not going in.

Building highways shore to shore,
But I can't afford the gas no more
Your free healthcare definitely ain't cheap

Been there done that messed around
voted for you you let me down,
I'll never let you
sweep me off my feet.

This time Barry, I'll be B*llshit proof,
This time Barry, I'll be B*llshit proof.

You don't want to turn around
And I know you you're much too proud
To walk away from something
when it's dead.

Do do do your race card words
Come out to play when you are hurt
There's certain things
that should be left unsaid.

Tick tick tick tick on the watch
Debt ceiling's coming not soon enough
Oh Barry, your time is running out.

I won't let you win again
Let tell me you I've woken up
All you do
is tax me with your debt.

This time Nancy, I'll be B*llshit proof,
This time Harry, I'll be B*llshit proof.
This time Johnny, I'll be B*llshit proof,
This time Barry, I'll be B*llshit proof.

This fall I'll be B*llshit proof.
This fall I'll be B*llshit proof.
This fall I'll be B*llshit proof.

(Instrumental)

This fall Nancy, I'll be B*llshit proof,
This fall Harry, I'll be B*llshit proof.
This fall Barry, I'll be B*llshit proof,
Come this Monday, I'll be B*llshit proof.

edit: for woofwoof.... sorry you missed the tone of the reply. <sarc> button is inop.

Mantis
Sep 28, 2013 - 7:35pm

Fear

Big brother is watching, and I think they want us to know that they do it. Because then we will be scared not to toe the line. They will also exaggerate their ability so as to seem bigger and more powerful and scarier. Its psy-ops.

However I choose not to be scared. Btw you can protect your privacy, its quite easy. Using Tor browser will mask your IP, but will slow down your browsing a little.. I don't bother that often. I don't give away my details cheaply, but I don't stress too much if they know my opinions and have me on lists. Fuck them.

fear paralizes.

Whitecastle123 Mantis
Sep 28, 2013 - 7:39pm

Um, I'm 68th.

And I believe I won again. Much better than Furst.

So the things going on behind the scenes will be revealed soon Turd ?

gtb
Sep 28, 2013 - 7:48pm

Coincidence?

What if collective acts such as coming together on an issue had an effect? Not that long ago Turd requested that we all contact our government representatives about the ongoing crime in progress. I contacted all my representatives, but I'm still waiting for a response. I hope everyone here has done like wise. It didn't take long for the CFTC to respond. Not the response we had hoped for though. Yes, I signed the petition. If you don't stand for something then you fall for anything.

Sigh-Op
Sep 28, 2013 - 8:05pm

Signed it.

No 311. Sorry i'm not a twin.

SilverSurfers
Sep 28, 2013 - 8:07pm

20-years to life

geeze, heard it through the grapevine that she had a lover, and bankster, and I got hot, cornered the rascal downtown coming out of the movies, wall street was playing, had hand gun, and waltzed the greep across PCH, and in one of those well know dark secret places, behind a public out house, the surf pounding in the back ground, drowing out the noise, out of public camera view, and greased the the dirty falker there, three shots, one in the chest that took him down, and two back of head shots to make sure he dont get up ever again, and as cool as luke, knowing it was 20 years to life, walked swifttly and surely south down the board walk on main beach, pass the laguna hotel, and by the old boom boom room and onto ann street, high above white water, threw the weapon long into the surf, and then back across PCH, to a dumpster and unloaded the out garments, and then, and then, snapped out of it, and woke up in the chair with the charts on the screen, staring me in the face, meh, I sure hope silver goes up a bit, and puts me in a happier mood, geeze

The gun is mightier than the pen, trust me on this one.

there is always the prospect for hope and change.

Maybe Zodiac will reappear and start greasing the greedsters.

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totalitarians will incarcerate for mere thought and speech, dreams are next.

Maybe it is just a coincidence that our dearly beloved congressmen are trapped just like the FED, as they either vote for more debt raising, and kick the exponentiating ponzi scheme dont the road, or vote against the debt limit raising and it implodes on their watch, from the obsurdity of the unconstitutional fiat money nanny-granny fascist state. Yeah, write your congressmen all you want, and sign petitions all you want, but it wont change the mouse traps the FED and Government have placed themselves and all of us in, not one little bit, for the electorate has been pandered for 100 years, and are locked in, and you first have to get them out of themselves, and then they have to be really mad to make a significant change, and that wont come until the totalitarian socialistic fascist ponzie scheme blows up. So good luck with that, but it was a nice feel-good warm fuzzie thought though.

Traveling Wilburys - End Of The Line

Was driving the boys to Russian language class at UCI, on the 405, and on an overpass were two guys with two huge American flags fluttering, and one HUGE sign on the overpass fence so all the drivers by could read it, and it read IMPEACH OBAMA. Those two must be extremists. I waived to them and honked, kind of fun.

Bollocks
Sep 28, 2013 - 8:08pm
rl999
Sep 28, 2013 - 8:12pm

#105

The first time I posted on the internet was 2010. Probably on the watchtower site or ZH. I waited so long to post because I had heard about Echelon and Carnivore and the like early on. I never had a facebook/myspace/twitter/etc. I thought I was remaining anonymous. I thought it would do some good when the inevitable happened. That is foolishness. Your mere presence on this website, as well as your purchases of au/ag/pb+cu have already doomed you IFF they need it to. If not they could care less. Signing this petition doesn't get you on the radar, it will just be another strike when you actually are. Unless you are a computer genius there is no anonymity. Posting here discussing why you won't sign the petition is both hilarious and pitiful. It testifies to your complete lack of understanding about the nsa revelations.

While this petition is nowhere near the blatant FU the founder's "petitions" were, it is something. People that refuse to take any action unless it is "guaranteed" to work are the biggest obstacle to the liberty movement today, more so than tptb. If it was just liberty lovers and tptb it would be very straightforward and simple. With all of the wishy washy scared S*less to commit to anything people in the "movement" it is significantly more difficult to accomplish anything.

The problem is that no one wants to be first, no one wants to stand up for anything, nothing is ever quite good/strong enough to commit to. This leaves everyone weak and fractured. No one person/idea/movement is ever going to be close to perfect, but if enough people stand up for it and get behind it that idea will move forward (OWS, tea party). As it stands now liberty minded people are getting sniped by those that are supposed to be in their camp.

Do you think that you are going to be aware and jump on the bandwagon of the next "movement" - the one that does succeed? Given your refusal to get behind anything now why would those actually doing the work even want you for "the next big thing"? Do you think that if the cretins started looking at the details of your life they wouldn't already have enough to know which side your on? Do you think you can stand alone against what's coming? Maybe none of us will ever have to commit to anything. Maybe this whole situation will drag on for another century. If there does come a time for action it will be because not enough people raised their voices when that was all that was required. If tshtf others are than supposed to believe that those same people will raise their hands and volunteer, or do even more? Laughable.

If you think you aren't on a list already you should be ashamed for not doing anything proactive for liberty.

Mr. Fix
Sep 28, 2013 - 8:13pm

What have you got to lose?

As many of the above posts mentioned,

I come down firmly on the side that this petition has a snowballs chance in hell of having any effect on a scumbag like Bart Chilton.

However, I am number 401 on the list.

Now for something that will make a difference,

put me down for one tube of silver maples on October 31.

I think I'll buy them from The Doc, he seems like a nice enough fellow.

Hopefully, the system will stay glued together long enough to make that transaction then.

By the way,

for all of those proposing to buy Bart Chilton, are you kidding me?

He's on the same side as the guy with the printing press,

even if we could raise $1 billion, his buddy Ben could print $1 trillion at the press of a mouse.

There is no way to pay for justice in this system, the other side can print to infinity, and will.

Even Bart knows full well that he will be a dead man if he even considers the concept of revealing what he knows.

I voice my opposition to the system every day, sending a note to Bart is no different,

but I don't expect it to change things, educating people on the corruption of our system, and encouraging them to get out of it will make a real difference, petitioning our representatives at this point is a lesson in futility, since they clearly only answer to the banksters, and in actuality, we have no representation whatsoever.

I like the idea of publicizing the petition as much as possible, but expecting the mainstream news outlets to ever mention it, is fantasy thinking, we would be better to post the link at every alternative news site we know of.

Most importantly:

Keep stacking! Taking the silver out of the system will make a difference, and it will help to preserve your wealth.

Once the metal is all gone, the system crashes, and that's when things start getting very interesting.

SilverSurfers
Sep 28, 2013 - 8:42pm

When?

When does counter-party risk seriously enter the buy/sell of bullion coins? Just Asking.

I signed it, as its not like Im not already on the fed's most extremists list anyway. LOL!!!

Number 419

Beach Boys-(my 409)
Teach
Sep 28, 2013 - 8:43pm

Been on a list all my life...

and that's just the way things are. It started as a kid in school, then behind the school as a duhlinkwent, and so on and so on. Fear of somebody's list ain't stopped me from much, although it might have taught me to keep my eyes and ears a little more open. I have been a bit intimidated a time or two by the thought of a list, but it also made me truly believe in being true to mine own heart. Some times I proudly put myself on the list; other times I am unaware I have been listed. Too late to stop now. It's why I say FTSBTSFY. When fear makes my decisions for me, I'll truly know I have been defeated. https://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/two-conversations-with-two-insiders-expect-the-unexpected/59335#more-59335

Keep stacking! Keep prepping.

Down Range
Sep 28, 2013 - 8:54pm

We Have Nothing to Fear but Fear It's Self!

They already know what I think of THEM. Even Zero Hedge canceled my account TWICE (what a bunch of pus, I mean cats).

Number 40 and proud of it.

COME AND GET ME BITCHEZ, it has to start sometime!

Dawg

Righting Moment
Sep 28, 2013 - 9:03pm

#265 on the Hit List

Had to go back and find the #... Decided it's time for me to take a stand.

ltcolkilgore
Sep 28, 2013 - 9:05pm

#419 - FWIW

This game will only end when they want it to end, until then it will be business as usual. No petition will ever change what is going on, we all allowed this (and much more) to happen, we fell asleep at the switch and I'm afraid the price we'll have to pay now will be more than many are willing to pay.

Until then... What's for supper??

surfeitndearth
Sep 28, 2013 - 9:07pm
SilverSurfers
Sep 28, 2013 - 9:29pm

Rob Kirby

He connects the dots, to the Government, but JPM is not the government, and the commercial weak link, and even if they have a client, who orders a dump, and that client is the US government ESF using the FED and banksters and greedsters, it does not matter, in equity, that JPM has been ordered to price manipulate for the government. Just because the government asks you to commit a crime, does not give you the right to commit a crime, and mere agency of mala en se in equity is not defense. I had it right the first time, go after JPM in equity for price manipulation in a gun totting state.

Hammer
Sep 28, 2013 - 10:06pm

lol. A Blast From The

lol. A Blast From The Past (2010 to be precise)

Yes, regulators appear to be turning to 1980s screwball comedies for inspiration for new rules. It’s hard to imagine CFTC chief Gary Gensler keeping a straight face, while telling Congress about this item in his testimonyWednesday:

We have recommended banning using misappropriated government information to trade in the commodity markets. In the movie “Trading Places,” starring Eddie Murphy, the Duke brothers intended to profit from trades in frozen concentrated orange juice futures contracts using an illicitly obtained and not yet public Department of Agriculture orange crop report. Characters played by Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd intercept the misappropriated report and trade on it to profit and ruin the Duke brothers. In real life, using such misappropriated government information actually is not illegal under our statute. To protect our markets, we have recommended what we call the “Eddie Murphy” rule to ban insider trading using nonpublic information misappropriated from a government source.

https://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2010/03/04/first-the-volcker-rule-now-the-eddie-murphy-rule/
sierra skier
Sep 28, 2013 - 10:10pm

Got ya beat on the petition,,,,,,

#5 on the signature page. It is great to see them beginning to stack up, closing in on 450.

Hammer
Sep 28, 2013 - 10:10pm

For those too young to

For those too young to remember

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trading_Places

from which came "The Eddie Murphy Rule"

The "Eddie Murphy Rule", as it came to be known, later came into effect as Section 136 of the Wall Street Transparency and Accountability Act of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, under Section 746, which dealt with insider trading.[29]

SilverSurfers
Sep 28, 2013 - 10:27pm

Violence?

it doesn't solve the political issue.

Tell that to boston tea partiers, or that gunner who fired the first shot at Ft Sumter, or 3rd Army in the Buldge, tell that to Kadaffi, or Hussian. Violence is the most expeditious way to perfect substantial political changes, but it must be done in force, for the right reason, when civil means are exhausted. They seem exhausted.

What's for super? What ever the two boys leave on their plate, sometime about habitual stories of starving african children, when I was growing up.

Hammer
Sep 28, 2013 - 10:36pm

lol pt 2

lol pt 2

I WANT YOUR MONEY - Obama v Reagan - FULL DOCUMENTARY
SilverSurfers
Sep 28, 2013 - 10:55pm

The Rant of Rants

We are talking a 10 here gang, GC just goes off, ON THE FREAKING FLOOR!!!

This is special, really special.

https://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2013/9/28_Gerald_Celente.html

Kobe Bryant Slam Dunk Contest
Fred Hayek
Sep 28, 2013 - 11:05pm

@madhatter, uh, actually it does

The Gold Reserve Act of 1934 actually *does* give JP Morgan the "legal" right to commit fraud in the service of the federal government. I'm not saying that I support this in any way. But multiple writers on line pointed out after the CFTC came out with its decision that, in the most technical reading of that long ago law, the government and its agents have the "right" to manipulate the markets to manage the price of gold. This is likely the behind the scenes, not made explicit to the public justification amongst the CFTC flunkeys for what they do. It's one of the things we'd ideally like Bart Chilton to say up front "There was massive evidence of manipulation but it was in service of the federal government and therefor not technically illegal. But the gold and silver markets are saturated with fraud."

And, I signed the petition.

SilverSurfers
Sep 28, 2013 - 11:48pm

Tocqueville

So, let me get this straight, if a law gives JPM to the right to commit murder, then such a law would be unconstitutional, equal protection? Right to life, freedom and property without due process of law. It would be in effect a taking as used by government, to tax without authority, to take without due process, and that is why the case must be brought in gun totting state.

John Hathaway

Tocqueville Fund c/o

Mr. Joseph A. Zock
Managing Director
Tocqueville Asset Management
E-mail: institutional[at]tocqueville[dot]com Sir, I am very aware of your KWN presence, your frustration in the bullion markets, and your concerns at the CFTC. Rob Kirby connects the dots. He connects the dots, to the Government, but JPM is not the government, and the commercial weak link, and even if they have a client, who orders a dump, and that client is the US government ESF using the FED and banksters and greedsters, it does not matter, in equity, that JPM has been ordered to price manipulate for the government. Just because the government asks you to commit a crime, does not give you the right to commit a crime, and mere agency of mala en se in equity is not defense. I had it right the first time, go after JPM in equity for price manipulation in a gun totting state. You are on to something, when you focused on the dumps. Price manipulation can be proven clearly. That has never been the problem. The problem is how to hang JPM and expose to the public the nefarious actions. "That was exactly my proposed litigation tactic, to show the recurrent "dumping", explaining that such is dumped by pooled client accounts for the purpose of price manipulation only, back stabbing clients, unless those client ordered the hit in the first place. Hathaway is on to something here, but what he may find is that the FED rigs all markets. Either you expose the FED, or hang JPM, and it seems that injunction against JPM would be had, rather than give up the FED, and the whole crooked rats nest in DC." If you are really serious about exposing and ending the price manipulation, I am probably the only one in the country that knows how with an executable plan. The venture need 500K minimally, or 6M$ for the dog and pony show, with an expected result within 6mo. I am serious and fully capable. If you are serious, and can find away to fund the take down of all time, I am your man to lead the charge. https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:RoCssAXjD5sJ:total... Yours, Derrick Michael Reid For your information: THE US FED THROUGH JPM RIGS MARKETS


https://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2013/9/27_B...

Hathaway: “I’m not going to give up. I’m interested in bursts of suspicious trading in the gold market. Yesterday we had 20,000 contracts in 5 minutes. I want to put together a data base of that type of suspicious trading.”

That was exactly my proposed litigation tactic, to show the recurrent "dumping", explaining that such is dumped by pooled client accounts for the purpose of price manipulation only, back stabbing clients, unless those client ordered the hit in the first place. Hathaway is on to something here, but what he may find is that the FED rigs all markets. Either you expose the FED, or hang JPM, and it seems that injunction against JPM would be had, rather than give up the FED, and the whole crooked rats nest in DC.

The US Senate is Trapped

There are many pernicious cycles these days led by treacherous cretins. Some treacherous cretins are at the heads of government, other in the underworld bowels of wall street, while others sit almighty on the high court, trashing the constitution, day in and day out, trashing concepts of limited government and real money. But American oligarchs are at the core once again in treacherous cycles, among many that are open loop with positive feedback, exponentiating the country into ruination. In the early last century, America had industrial chieftains, would got to big for their britches, monopolizing markets, and anti-trust slayed those dragons, and put them in their place during the industrial revolution. Today, its a different ball game, in the HFT information age, where industry is considered evil or obsolete, and hence starved to death through weaker wages and manipulated markets, and targeted by a plethoral of socialization taxes and regulations by the totalitarians in charge. The evil monsters that have raised their heads from the underworld over the last half century are the financial oligarchs, fed a rich diet of QE and ZIRP, to acquire capital for manipulating all markets, for self enrichment, bonuses, and confiscation of wealth, enabled by the totalitarians in the white house, in congress, and on the high bench. Industrial chieftains at least gave workers and the unions a fair shot at sharing in the newly created wealth that is created by industry. Todays financial oligarchs have absolutely no redeeming quality about then, for their world is the rig market, where wealth is confiscated with impunity at tax payer expense, at industry's expense, at the worker's expense, at freedom's expense. They operate with positive feed back, exponentiating, lacking serious negative feedback from society in general or the department of justice, or for example the CFTC in the bullion space. A nefarious cycle has been created over the last 15 years, where leftist political heads, publicly profess to get them dirty wall street SOB, through sharing, to pander the people to cement political power, yet will create the very same arena for the financial oligarchs of banking and finance to confiscate the wealth of the people. The game is open loop and positive in feed back, uncontrolled and wicked, as the pandered people will willingly vote yet again for totalitarians, to then be only slaughtered like pigs, without enough government teets, as they have been pandered to be, voting for totaliatarians, who will seek some give back, from the financial oligarchs, but only through the government, to then hand out to the people, in totalitarian lock down, in a vicious death spiral, where state dependents and state employees garner more power as the private sector people are totally enslaved as state dependents and tax mules, as the financial oligarchs run rough shod over the markets, making even more riches, perfected through undue influence over all government functions, as the tax mules are slaughtered wholesale as there soon wont be many of them tax mules left, and thus giving their all for the totalitarians to cement political power from their campaign contributing financial oligarchs, cementing a fascist marriage from hell. This nefarious fascist cycle can only be broken through economic devastation, bringing about either civil war voting with guns or political upheavals ruling the voting booth.

The senate can vote for a debt limit raise, and kick the can, or pull the plug on obscene nany-granny deficits, and in either case, the economy implodes. THEY ARE TRAPPED, just like the FED, both in their own cesspool, of unsustainable social programs, hand outs, QE, ZIRP, and the totalitarian fraud of the nanny-granny state. Of course they will kick the can, and then pander the people that THEY saved the country and the banking industry, and avoided another depression. HOW NOBLE!

Maybe it is just a coincidence that our dearly beloved congressmen are trapped just like the FED, as they either vote for more debt raising, and kick the exponentiating ponzi scheme dont the road, or vote against the debt limit raising and it implodes on their watch, from the obsurdity of the unconstitutional fiat money nanny-granny fascist state. Yeah, write your congressmen all you want, and sign petitions all you want, but it wont change the mouse traps the FED and Government have placed themselves and all of us in, not one little bit, for the electorate has been pandered for 100 years, and are locked in, and you first have to get them out of themselves, and then they have to be really mad to make a significant change, and that wont come until the totalitarian socialistic fascist ponzie scheme blows up. So good luck with that, but it was a nice feel-good warm fuzzie thought though.

Was driving the boys to Russian language class at UCI, on the 405, and on an overpass were two guys with two huge American flags fluttering, and one HUGE sign on the overpass fence so all the drivers by could read it, and it read IMPEACH OBAMA. Those two must be extremists. I waived to them and honked, kind of fun.

Rob Kirby connects the dots, to the Government, but JPM is not the government, and the commercial weak link, and even if they have a client, who orders a dump, and that client is the US government ESF using the FED and banksters and greedsters, it does not matter, in equity, that JPM has been ordered to price manipulate for the government. Just because the government asks you to commit a crime, does not give you the right to commit a crime, and mere agency of mala en se in equity is not defense. I had it right the first time, go after JPM in equity for price manipulation in a gun totting state.

OReilly and Taxes

OReilly went off this this night about increasing taxes, increasing in blue states, decreasing in red states, and blamed liberal policies, but failed to drive the point home. There are two sectors that are increasing, government employees and state dependents, even though one could argue they are essentially the same, and that as the state dependents increase, the non-productive increase, the productive are penalized more to make up for the short fall, and which is voted for more and more, and more and more become state dependents. Some tax mules die each day, as the partition rate falls day by day, as government employees, disabled receipent and food stamp recipent skyrocket.Tax mules and state dependents, the later of which will and is killing the former, as the unproductive are rewarded as the productive are penalized, increasingly so, in the 100 year continuation, until collapse and ruination. While many complain about the market manipulation, particularly in the bullion space, it is really just an extension of our totalitarian democracy, voted for, where state dependents are destroying the tax mules, in a death spiral toward corruption, collapse and ruination.

So, continuing the theory, that totalitarian socialistic fascism results in state dependents killing off the tax mules, until the private sector is dead.

So, we have a government worker, and sure there is some work product. Take a congressman. His pay is $150K example, and pays 50K in taxes, the net is 100K$ of state dependency. The 100K$ comes from the private sector, its slow demise. Of course that work product is oriented toward more of, you guessed it, totalitarian socialistic fascism. The totaliatarianism speaks for itself, the socialism is the pandering to cement the vote, in a totalitarian democracy. The totalitarianism spills over into controlling all markets and money, which means of course, suppressing bullion and restricting currency to paper fiat, in the fascist combination of banks and government. Because of the positive feedback, the system enters a death spiral towards soviet style, more and more controls by the state, and the rise of oligarchs.

In the days of the cold war, there was a shinning example of western economies, having a substantial private sector, to draw the comparison between what is corrupt socialism and what is capitalism, and the soviets failed. Modernly, there is no such shinning example to compare, as all the world government head towards state controls, in a race to bottom, just like the con game that is the fiat paper money system.

It is hoped that economic collapse would wake people up, but how do you wake people up, if there is no shinning example to which to compare, except history books of glory gone by?

FED QE to Infinity and required Gold Price Suppression

Clearly, the FED is trapped, QE to infinity, kicking the can, or pull QE and immediate economic Depression and fiscal deficits rocket higher. To keep the QE game alive, the FED/BIS directs bullion banks to manipulate the bullion market keeping the price of gold and silver low, as gold/silver is the canary in the coalmine, to make the dollar appear better than it is, for as soon as QE is pulled, bond market collapses, fiscal deficient skyrocket as unservicable, the dollar sinks into oblivion, hyper-inflation ravages the people, and the resulting wide spread economic depression. But until then, the middle and poor classes are sucked dry, as the banks manipulate all markets using ZIRP free money, as the rich get much much richer, and hence, the unlikeliness that QE will be pulled.

The FED/BIS by directing the bullion banks (eg GS JPM) to short bullion, to give the false appearance that the dollar is sound, reduce the price of bullion, so that smarter eastern country, read Russia China et al, can buy bullion on the cheap, thus transfer gold/silver from west to each, yet bullion in the US is that last ditch defense to the inevitable collapse of the paper currency dollar, and thus, the FED is committing regular TREASON against the people of the US, so that the banksters and greedsters (bullion banks) can profit on the backs of the middle class and poor, and so that eastern countries can get their fill of bullion, and hence, acquire long term economic and military power adverse to the US. TREASON and GREED rule the FED bank and bullion banks, that unduely influence the US government, in a totalitarian fascist corrupt system, destroying the middle class, sucking the country dry of wealth, to enrich the 1% and the banksters, leading to economic depression and hyperinflation, without a last ditch defense to monetary failure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkTb8FrQ9ow

Keiser Report: Banksters' God Complex (E501)

The conclusion was make early on, that the yakity yak gold bugs do not cross dimension in necessary and indispensable thinking, and that AM (Andrew Maguire) was going down the wrong procedural route, to stop the manipulation. Well well, another turth brought to light and now admitted, publicly on Keiser. But, you all will get there, maybe not soon, but eventually, as I have faith in your persistence, and may be there are some real smart guys, just maybe, who will finally get there, who do more than yakity yak and complain, who will take a serous 2nd look at the proposal to end bullion manipulation, set forth and published for all to see, but such real smart guys would first have to understand the totality of AM's broadcast, then realize the that government agencies and coastal US district courts suffer from undue influence, then realize that yakity yak gets no where, and then finally realize that that plan is the only way to bust the con game here and now. May be there are some real smart guys out there, just maybe. The gold community and whistle blowers can blow hard all they want, and do the Kesier rant, and of course, get no where, unless someone steps up and fund the plan, and until then, you all should just kick it, and ride the ride, and complain to high heaven, and sell subscriptions, or glorify your angry bad selves on KWN, or just yakity yak till the cows come home, as that has been the only sure loser method going on 15 years now. You can lead horses and gold bugs and yakity yak cows to water, but you cant make them act.
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:RoCssAXjD5sJ:total...
ownhall.com/2013/08/23/proposal_to_end_bullion_m
anipulation.thtml+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


Bullion in hand represent freedom from government. At 2000 tons x 32,000 = 64m oz gold, and 750m oz silver are mined each year. Demand has to blow that away, for metal to "over run" the printing presses. Demand will come only when the paper money fails. Governments have the printing press with QE and ZIRP enabling market rigging with relative impunity, the bullying pulpits to pander the people to believe things the governments wants to sustain it own totalitarian control over the people, distant public memory of silver in circulation, trashed Constitution, a corrupt judiciary, totalitarian socialistic fascist controls, a pandered population believing socialism and income retribution and sharing and more government is the way forward, world wide fascist combination of governments and banks, police state taxes on bullion, inter alia. It seems that over run could take a long time. Defense to the assault on freedom is as useless as the CFTC, all just waiting for the next assault on freedom, right? The bullion camp has only yakity yak cows, sreeching unfair, but unwilling to go over to the offensive, with the plan, to free mankind worldwide.
USA Attack Plan B on TBTF TBTJ Greedster
Posted by Derrick Michael Reid on Saturday, July 06, 2013 5:23:12 AM
Attack Plain A was developed during May and June 2013. Now, Attack Plan B has been rapidly developed mostly as a funding alternative.

https://totalcontrol.blogtownhall.com/2013/06/03/usa_nova_slang.thtml

https://totalcontrol.blogtownhall.com/2013/05/29/freedom_v_tbtf_tbtj_gre...

https://totalcontrol.blogtownhall.com/2013/06/06/usa_strike_on_the_evil_...

After the light bulb went off 4/29/13, of an understanding how to take down the TBTF TBTJ Greedster Mob Boss in the USA, and to liberate the people, eight weeks were spent drafting up that attack plan, attack plan A. The first two weeks of July 2013 were to be used for and are presently being used to publicize attack plan A, in the hopes that someone with means would step up and fund a very robust assault on the TBTF TBTJ Greedster Mob Boss who unduly influences and corrupts the US Government whilst enabling the enslavement of the people while the TBTF TBTJ Greedster Mob Boss officers live like kings. That funding effort continues. However, another plan, attack plan B, has been quickly developed, and very rapidly so, as merely a downsizing of attack plan A.


First is required an understanding of Attack Plan A as compared to Attack Plan B.

Attack Plan A is a robust assault on the TBTJ TBTF Greedster Mob Boss JPM. Plan A requires 6m$ in funding and includes many diversionary trial court tactics, including misdirections, MOPE public rallies, Chief Judge assignment motion, En Banc five man judge review motion, multiple summary judgment motions, expedited discovery motions, in dept six plaintiff assault, extensive hiring of GOLD notable as nine trial experts, and a six man attorney litigation team of four law firms. A 157 page single lined spaced detailed attack plan was developed and has been confidentially distributed to some extent and transmitted to the preferred financier. The proposed action would be brought in a gun totting state, for simple tort claims, with a preliminary injunction motion, where morality is the central issue under the equitable jurisdiction of the district court, so as to shut down the TBTF TBTJ Greedster JPM Mob Boss in the bullion space. The attack team comprises six plaintiffs, six attorneys and nine high profile gold notable experts, for a total of a 21 man team with an expected six month time duration from funding to enjoin the TBTF TBTJ Greedster mob boss in the gold and silver bullion space.

Attack B is merely a downsizing of attack plan A. Hence, Attack plan B was rapidly developed in only a couple of days. Attack plan B does not include use the misdirections, MOPE public rallies, Chief Judge assignment motion, En Banc five man judge review motion, multiple summary judgment motions, expedited discovery motions, an in-depth six man plaintiff assault, extensive hiring of GOLD notables as nine experts, and a six man attorney litigation team over four law firms.

Rather, downsized attack plan B uses only one plaintiff, only one litigator, yours truly, only one local counsel in a gun toting conservative state, and just three experts who are already close associates of the plaintiff and who are already in regular contact with the plaintiff. Thus, attack plan B, is only six man team, but is still brought in a gun toting state, along a narrow front of simple tort claims, with a preliminary injunction motion. URL based judicial notice will be more heavily relied upon, for enhanced cost effective judicial prosecution, so that, in attack B, there is still the same time horizon of six months from funding. Attack plan B is a viable option to attack plan A, particularly where funding is of issue, and attack plan B is estimated to cost 500K$, which is 1/12 of attack plan A. Under attack plan B, the one plaintiff, the three experts and the one litigator have already been selected and are totally on board, leaving only the selection of only one local counsel in the selected gun toting state district for bringing essentially the same legal action in a federal district court there.

Both Attack A and Attack plan B have the very same primary, secondary and tertiary objectives.

Primary Objectives are to enjoin the TBTF TBTJ Greedster mob boss JPM, so that bullion gold and silver bullion are liberated from the paper price manipulations on the Comex, so as to stop irreparable harm by the greedster mob boss in the bullion space.

Secondary Objectives, flowing naturally from primary objectives, are the destruction of the fraudulent irredeemable US FRN paper money as the US paper currency of the FED bank, under the current fiat paper monetary ponzie scheme of the current leftist totalitarian socialistic US Government that are used to enslave the American people as tax mules and state dependents.

Tertiary Objectives, flowing naturally from the secondary objectives, are the destruction of the GOLD CARTEL of 15 TBTF TBTJ greedster banks profiting off of the bullion price manipulation, and the destruction of World Central Bank fiat currency paper printing, so as to force the World Central Banks to stop printing and passing fraudulent fiat currency notes, but rather to have all nations use exclusively Gold and Silver honest real money as the medium of exchange, so as to force all governments to live within their means so as to stop robbing the people through monetary inflationary paper money printing, which robs all paper currency note holders every day that then concentrates power in the governments who enable totalitarian control over the people, so as to free peoples worldwide from socialistic totalitarian enslavement as government tax mules and state dependents.

Of course, I would, as the vicious ruthless litigator of the attack team, as it would only take 10 days to get the bar license reinstated to reactivate that 100% plaintiff success rate, have to relocate for one year to the selected judicial district and man an HQ office, and sure I would miss the home, and the honey, and the two young boys 8yo and 10yo, and I would miss teaching them daily the wonders of the universe and playing with them as house husband and helping them with elementary school home work, for one year, but, I have been retired four years now, studying up on the bullion markets and the TBTF TBTJ greedster mob boss, and I am ready to come off the bench, as duty's call is simply irresistible, as it was for my 28yo US Army boy, a Army lifer, who has served three tours in the Middle East, and I am ready to answer the call of duty, and besides, the young boys are old enough now, and the honey and the two young boys could come for short visits over that year, so it seems that all systems are a go, save 500K$ in funding with an 8x ROR to the financier.

President Ronald Reagan Clip: "Tear Down This Wall"
John F. Kennedy ask not what your country can do for you ask what
Spartacus Rex
Sep 29, 2013 - 12:17am
AlexCojones
Sep 29, 2013 - 1:18am

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Missed you guys while in Alaska..... I'm sure you missed this from me.

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