Andrew Maguire on Max Keiser

Tue, Sep 24, 2013 - 11:16am

Our friend and ally, Andrew Maguire, appeared on The Keiser Report today and provided additional details regarding the two JPMorgan whistleblowers who came forward to the CFTC last year.

All I have to add is this:

As far as I can tell, everything that Andy mentions here is 100% accurate and true. How do I know? Because I was fortunate enough to be an intermediary, helping to connect Andy with the first whistleblower who came forward last spring. I want to make it absolutely clear, though, that I was not privy to any of the actual documentation nor have I had any discussions with this individual or Andy regarding what happened next. However, as he stated in a recent interview on King World News, Andy immediately directed this particular individual to a law firm in Washington, D.C. that specializes in Dodd-Frank "whistleblower" cases so that the information could be legally submitted directly to the CFTC.

The only question that remains is whether or not your public servants at the CFTC will ever do the right thing and act against JPM to end the manipulation. Though it's likely that, being firmly entrenched in the back pocket of the TBTF banks, the CFTC will only choose to ignore, delay and obfuscate, we can always hope that one day their collective consciences might get the best of them. Regardless, in the end it won't matter as the sheer weight of the supply/demand distortion will collapse the entire manipulation scheme eventually. In the meantime, just continue to add to your physical stack of metal, taking advantage of the discounted prices brought about by this deliberate bullion bank price manipulation scheme.


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Sep 24, 2013 - 11:24am

I know it seems futile...

But, if there was ever a time to email or call the CFTC...THAT TIME IS NOW.

Ask Commissioner Chilton and Chairman Gensler WHY they are ignoring this whistleblower information and WHY the agency has failed to act. Additionally, ask them if their inaction makes them complicit in the manipulation AND whether they feel they should be held personally liable for losses incurred by metals investors over the past 2.5 years. (Please remain civil. If you do, they might actually read your email.)

Chairman Gensler: ggensler[at]cftc[dot]gov (202) 418-5050

Commissioner Chilton: bchilton[at]cftc[dot]gov (202) 418-5060

Commissioner O'Malia: somalia[at]cftc[dot]gov (202) 418-5870

Commissioner Wetjen: mwetjen[at]cftc[dot]gov (202) 418-5010

Director of Enforcement: David Meister (Mister Meister) dmeister[at]cftc[dot]gov (202) 418-5000

Sep 24, 2013 - 11:29am


If anyone reading this has the contact info for an honest, "mainstream" investigative reporter, please email me at tfmetalsreport at gmail dot com.

I've tried ZeroHedge and I've tried to track down Matt Taiibi, all to no avail. If you know of anyone not afraid to take this story into the mainstream, please let me know.

Sep 24, 2013 - 11:35am


Finally, the pig is 1st!

Sep 24, 2013 - 11:40am



Sep 24, 2013 - 11:41am


XX for a top tenner!! Go AM on Keiser, have a dos exes on me!!!

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Sep 24, 2013 - 11:42am

Jim Marrs

I wish we could get Jim Marrs on the band wagon.

Sep 24, 2013 - 11:49am

Thanks for the work!

The bureaucrats at SEC and CFTC are PAID to do investigation.

Since they are paid to investigate, is there some location where the bureaucrats publish their work?

Just wanting to VERIFY that they actually do work...

Sep 24, 2013 - 11:55am

Interesting take on gold's price direction and why

Sept. 24, 2013 8:41 a.m. EDT

Gold in Recovery?

By Mike Paulenoff

Spot gold appears to be in the infancy of a strong, intermediate-term recovery up-leg.

A look at the weekly chart shows a major correction within the 1999-2011 bull market transpired between the September 2011 high at $1921.50 and the June 2013 low at $1180.04. Honing in on the four-hour chart, we see the June-August rally from $1180.04 to $1434.05 represents the first completed up-move of a larger and still-developing intermediate-term recovery-rally period.

The decline from the August high to the Sept. 17 low at $1292.51 ended an intervening pullback ahead of the initiation of the second phase of the intermediate-term recovery period.

All of the action since Sept. 17 represents the preparation — the bottoming work — required prior to upside acceleration that should hurdle the post-"No Taper" high (Sept. 19) at $1375.37 on the way to a test of the August high at $1434.05, and beyond that to $1500-1530 thereafter.

With the foregoing in mind, provided my perceptions of the technical setup are reasonably accurate, my sense is that last week's "No Taper" decision by the FOMC is intended to reduce pressure on mortgage rates and to stimulate an inflationary market response — not only from equities, but more importantly, from gold in an attempt by the Fed to reorient inflationary expectations higher (like Abe is attempting in Japan).

Right now, my technical work on gold and the U.S. dollar (versus non-yen currencies), which continues to weaken since the FOMC decision, dovetails with what I think is the Fed's goal to create a shift toward inflationary perceptions.

A climb in gold to $1500 in the days and weeks ahead certainly will go a long way to initiating the move toward that goal. At this juncture, only a decline that breaks bothlast Sunday evening's low at $1313.76 and the Sept. 17 low at $1292.51 will invalidate my current outlook.

See charts illustrating the technical patterns of spot gold.

Sep 24, 2013 - 12:01pm

Any chance that...

Any chance that Andy is going to publish the documents from the whistleblowers that he submitted to the CFTC to the public? We don't NEED a reporter to spread this! If we put the documents out there it will spread on it's own. Even if it's only zerohedge, max k and alex jones to start, that's still millions of people.

Right now Andy's only one more car crash away from never getting the word out there!

nixter TF
Sep 24, 2013 - 12:03pm


.....John Stossel @ Fox News Channel

Sep 24, 2013 - 12:03pm


Here is a pretty extensive list of journalism associations:

ddaak TF
Sep 24, 2013 - 12:03pm

Re; "and now would be an excellent"


I read the link you posted. In the comments section, in the 5th comment, 3rd paragraph, there is a suggested contact:

"Contact people like Professor William K Black ( ) and ask him to help you collectively knock on the doors of Bloomberg and the WSJ first. He's got contacts and experience and will elevate the respect with which your message should be heard."

Don't know if this is any help.

Sep 24, 2013 - 12:03pm

Investigative Journalist


I think you're looking for Greg Palast.

Sep 24, 2013 - 12:07pm

And here is

The investigative reporters and editors twitter feed:

Edit: Oh, Oh, and what about Bill O'Reilly? He is all about watching out for "the folks". I am sure he would be all over this! LMAO

Sep 24, 2013 - 12:39pm


won't do anything because they're paid not to do anything.

They only investigate the little guys. They are NOT there to investigate the big stuff. They're owned by Goldman and The Federal Reserve.

Expecting the CFTC to take action is like expecting a criminal to lock himself up.

Sep 24, 2013 - 12:49pm


Stacy Herbert has linked to this post from

"[UPDATE: Here is Turd Ferguson with more info on the JPM whistleblowers]."

You might want to take it out of your vault as nobody will be able to see it, other than us turdites.

Sep 24, 2013 - 12:50pm


Andy doesn't have any documents. Neither do I. He simply directed the individuals to the law firm last year and has heard nothing from the CFTC since. In these interviews, I believe he is trying to stir the pot to get the CFTC to act.

Sep 24, 2013 - 12:50pm

It's not in The Vault

This is a "public" thread.

Sep 24, 2013 - 1:02pm


If everything that most or some of us believe is going on (govt. approved market interventions/manipulation) to the extent it is then how could an agency that was created, entasked and given direction by the govt. act in a manner contrary and to the detriment of the govt.? It almost doesn't seem possible or likely. I just read something somewhere about Gensler and the CFTC being unable to look into derivative hanky panky because they lacked the funding to do so. How convenient is that and who controls the funding? I'm of the opinion nothing comes of this CFTC investigation to the extent it matters in the long run regarding golds price. It'll take a basic supply/demand issue like TF states to bring real price duscovery to the forefront OR some other event outside of the western influenced banking system that brings golds valuation into crisp focus. I'm guessing it'll be the latter and it'll take longer then we'd like it but the flip-side of it is that gold/silver are affordable because of it. For how much longer though? Does anyone see a Gensler led assault from the CFTC against the cartel govt. machine being tolerated, funded or allowed to gain meaningful traction? I don't.

Sep 24, 2013 - 1:05pm

Unusual trading when no taper announced

This is breaking news on CNBS right now. That trading happened prior to the time the news could have been physically delivered. We all knew this last week but this is "breaking news" today. Why do I have the TV on?

Sep 24, 2013 - 1:06pm


The conclusion was make early on, that the yakity yak gold bugs do not cross dimension in necessary and indispensable thinking, and that AM was going down the wrong procedural route, to stop the manipulation. Well well, another turth brought to light and now admitted, publicly on Keiser. But, you all will get there, maybe not soon, but eventually, as I have faith in your persistence, and may be there are some real smart guys, just maybe, who will finally get there, who do more than yakity yak and complain, who will take a serous 2nd look at the proposal to end bullion manipulation, set forth and published for all to see, but such real smart guys would first have to understand the totality of AM's broadcast, then realize the that government agencies and coastal US district courts suffer from undue influence, then realize that yakity yak gets no where, and then finally realize that that plan is the only way to bust the con game here and now. May be there are some real smart guys out there, just maybe. The gold community and whistle blowers can blow hard all they want, and do the Kesier rant, and of course, get no where, unless someone steps up and fund the plan, and until then, you all should just kick it, and ride the ride, and complain to high heaven, and sell subscriptions, or glorify your angry bad selves on KWN, or just yakity yak till the cows come home, as that has been the only sure loser method going on 15 years now. You can lead horses and gold bugs and yakity yak cows to water, but you cant make them act.

The plan is there, to rob the goons, of their cozy con game, and we can rob the goons, anytime, but the gold bugs need to act, but that is unlikely, so, in time, well maybe.

my blog of 8 years was bounced, but the google cache is still available.

Still working the new web page, so, hopefully it all goes back on line soon.

Derrick Michael Reid coming soon.

Sep 24, 2013 - 1:13pm

Yup, Greg Palast is a fantastic investigative journalist...

Got an hour free?

It's about time there was a full, expertly-researched documentary on PM price manipulation, and all the associated horrors.

Sep 24, 2013 - 1:24pm

nothing will happen

Lets get real for a moment .I know you all here realize what the stake is here . Allowing the metals to find their real value by stopping the manipulation will kill the dollar , right ? How exactly is CFTC going to do anything about that huh ? Even if Blythe herself goes to whatever gov agency and provides all the documents proving that there is an ongoing manipulation that has lasted for many years , confesses everything and requires to be handcuffed and put in prison NOTHING WILL HAPPEN . And who believes that Bart will do anything , Andy ? He is a good guy , I use his services @ and I recommend it to everyone who is trying to trade those markets but think about this - the US government is killing millions of people overseas defending the dollar , is ready to start a WWIII just for the sake of a paper currency and will somehow allow several whistleblowers and a bunch of bureaucrats to screw up the plan ? 

Sep 24, 2013 - 1:26pm

Email the CFTC; We are Turd's army

I emailed three of the Commissioners. I mentioned the two JPMorgan whistleblowers and politely asked what the commissioner was doing to stop this manipulation. I thanked him for his help.

 Let's all send some emails, a variety of different emails from many people may help. While it probably will not change anything, we are Turd's army.

I couldn't send one to Mister Meister, I was laughing too hard.

Sep 24, 2013 - 1:28pm


Max said, "gold would have jumped to $2000 oz on the no taper news (if not for the manipulators). Come on, that is just nonsense, gold is at $1300-$1350 for a reason, that is where the supply and demand meets each other.

Andy said, suppressing the price cools down the physical demand for the metal? So if smart money really thought the price was being manipulated on the downside by -25%, they wouldn't buy the physical now? They would wait for higher prices, I don't think so. That theory is just bunk in my opinion. Buyers take advantage of "manipulated" discounts, they don't wait for higher prices.

I think what Andy fails to mention is that the "manipulators" control the price within the trading range, and they do that for paper profits, they can't manipulate the real physical market, no one can. If silver was undervalued by 50%, it should trade at $42 instead of $21, how long would smart physical buyers wait to buy up all the discounted metal? 2 months? 6 months? It wouldn't take long is my guess.

Just because some JPM people admitted to playing games in the PM paper markets, it doesn't mean that the PM prices are manipulated to the downside, that is a huge assumption to make. If that were the case, the manipulation couldn't even last very long. For the most part, JPM is playing the trading range that the market provides to them.

Sep 24, 2013 - 1:40pm

Nice spike

Once the Comex is closed and the CoT survey is taken, a very nice $7 spike in gold. 

<TFedit> Oct13 option expiry is tomorrow. 

Sep 24, 2013 - 1:49pm

Can somebody tell Max to stop talking and give time to guest

Why he constantly interupt Andrew

Max talked for nine minutes on a 13 minutes show,

I would love to listen more from Andrew Maguire

Please Max,... LISTEN MORE.

Sep 24, 2013 - 1:53pm
Sep 24, 2013 - 2:00pm

Pick out the mythical character

Pick out the mythical character:

A. Easter Bunny

B. Santa Claus

C. honest, "mainstream" investigative reporter

D. Tooth Fairy

Two hints in case you work for the NY Times or CNBS: When in doubt always pick the longest answer or C. Statistically according to a study of college tests, one of those is most likely the correct answer.

Sep 24, 2013 - 2:05pm


Max used to be a lot worse than that. 2+ years ago people in the comments section at were quite often telling him to shut the f*ck up and let the guest speak.

edit: I was one of them!

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