Cynicism on Syria

Fri, Sep 20, 2013 - 7:02am

I may have mentioned on a few occasions my now-ingrained, deep distrust of mainstream media outlets, even (ESPECIALLY) the more venerable, influential ones. Thus I am somewhat puzzled by the current sudden, all-encompassing push to build olive-branch stacks all OVER the place around Syria – after a grueling, 2+ year conflict. While I am very happy to welcome any REAL signs pointing to an end to the bloodshed, the perfect unison and timing with which all of these puzzle pieces are suddenly falling into place is truly astounding to me.

Syrian truce offer?

The Syrian conflict has reached a stalemate and President Bashar al-Assad's government will call for a ceasefire at a long-delayed conference in Geneva on the state's future, the country's deputy prime minister has said in an interview with the Guardian. […]

If accepted by the armed opposition, a ceasefire would have to be kept "under international observation", which could be provided by monitors or UN peace-keepers – as long as they came from neutral or friendly countries, he said.” -- Guardian

Perhaps as a response to this:

Iranian President Offers to Broker Talks Between Assad, Syrian Rebels” -- TIME

And/or this:

A major Kurdish alliance has joined the opposition Syrian National Coalition after more than a year of fraught negotiations, in what may prove a significant breakthrough for the rebels. […] Kurds account for 10 per cent of Syria’s population – more than 2 million people - and both the opposition and President Bashar Al Assad have tried to win their support, each believing it could be crucial in tipping the balance of power on the ground in their favour.” – The National (UAE)

Overtures toward Iran from US and others?

The White House hinted on Thursday about a possible meeting between President Barack Obama and the new Iranian President Hassan Rouhani when the two leaders are at the UN in New York next week. […] François Hollande, the French president, said on Thursday that he would meet Mr Rouhani on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly, which would be the first time the leaders of the two countries have met since 2005.” -- FT

Or merely MSM blitz to insinuate that this is the case?

Put another way:

"Iran’s leaders, seizing on perceived flexibility in a private letter from President Obama, have decided to gamble on forging a swift agreement over their nuclear program with the goal of ending crippling sanctions, a prominent adviser to the Iranian leadership said Thursday.

The adviser, who participated in top-level discussions of the country’s diplomatic strategy, said that Obama’s letter, delivered to Iran’s new president, Hasan Rouhani, about three weeks ago, promised relief from sanctions if Tehran demonstrated a willingness to “cooperate with the international community, keep your commitments, and remove ambiguities.” The text of the letter has not been made public, but the adviser described its contents in an interview.”Boston Globe

Are we seeing the POTUS being ‘more flexible’?

Is this really a set of sober steps back from the brink of outright military conflict? Are we about to see the Laureate earn the metal?

Perhaps the Administration has decided that it needs to deal with one crisis at a time, and pushed Syria on the back burner to focus more attention on the upcoming budget/debt ‘talks’ on the domestic front.

Perhaps some other pending ‘October surprise’ will required full attention (both theirs and ours). Dramatic, soap-opera-like twist(s) from the MENA participants and/or paid agents in the theater, now that warm, fuzzy, good-will feelings have been built up?

Perhaps this is a well-considered move to lull opponents into complacency before a decisive offensive push.

Perhaps BOTH sides have finally seen the light, and realized that they can put aside past animosities and work together for mutual benefit.

Perhaps some pipeline deal compromise has been hammered out under wraps that is to Putin's approval.

Incidentally, what, if anything does this have to do with the no-taper announcement? 'The FedRes will continue to print and export inflation. We’d appreciate it if sharply rising oil prices did not further exacerbate the erosion of the purchasing power of the USD, so there are now a few dozen (hundred?) thousand MORE men and women riding in very efficient killing machinery now here next door to make sure everyone remembers what currency oil should be denominated in.'

Or the other way around -- some version of the 'we will dump treasuries en masse NOW if you don't back off from war, and agree to buy them back from us at least at the current pace or faster' cards were subtly lifted and shown to the US negotiating team.

Perhaps we are all being TOO cynical, and government’s long-awaited efforts to secure peace in the Middle East are finally bearing fruit, and we are about to see some major group hugs. The expertise, dedication, sincere good will to make the world a better place, and long-term foresight to make this happen has been there all along – it just needed the firm but precise-to-the-extreme ‘strong hand’ of the CIC to persuade the parties involved through show of force. Former Senator Kerry is a statesman and strategist of the utmost caliber, and will soon secure a disarmed Syria, to be followed shortly by a ne-nuclearizing Iran.

The next Peace Nobel could now be in the bag.

What do YOU think?

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oneagleswings · Sep 20, 2013 - 7:12am


Syria, the ME, all a tinder box. All will burn eventually. My money is on Israel, as I read it in the Good Book. Damascus, it is prophesied, will be turned into a wasteland, and never occupied by man again. It is quite something to state this so absolutely but if you don't believe in anything, you fall for everything. The big hands of time are turning, turning, turning, 

Gold Dog · Sep 20, 2013 - 7:26am


Alright- Go you 2nd amendment!

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ag1969 · Sep 20, 2013 - 7:58am

Bolivia plans legal action against Obama over ‘crimes against hu

Bolivia plans legal action against Obama over ‘crimes against humanity’

Press TV – September 20, 2013

Bolivia’s President Evo Morales plans to file legal action against the US president for crimes against humanity, condemning Washington’s intimidation tactics after it denied Venezuelan presidential jet entry into US airspace.

“I would like to announce that we are preparing a lawsuit against [US President] Barack Obama to condemn him for crimes against humanity,” President Morales announced at a Thursday press conference in the Bolivian city of Santa Cruz, RT reports.

He further described the American president as a “criminal” who willingly violates international law.

“The US cannot be allowed to continue with its policy of intimidation and blockading presidential flights,” Morales stated.

He added that Bolivia intends to prepare legal action against the US president and file the lawsuit at the International Court.

President Morales has called for an emergency meeting of the Community of Latin American and Caribbean States (CELAC) to confer about the US action, which has been slammed by Venezuela as “an act of intimidation by North American imperialism.”

3rd Amendment

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.[3

DeaconBenjamin · Sep 20, 2013 - 8:03am

Indian gold imports to start immediately

NEW DELHI: Gold imports will resume immediately after a two-month gap as the government and banks sorted out how new rules on overseas purchases should work at a high-level meeting on Friday, a trade ministry source told reporters. Monthly shipments by the world's top importer are however unlikely to be even a quarter of the record volumes in May and total annual imports will be sharply down, helping the government cut a bulging current account deficit and support the weak rupee. At least 20 percent of the gold imports must be turned around for exports, the source said, clarifying a July 22 rule that said a fifth of the shipments must be used for exports. Banks and other importers had halted imports as there was no clarity on how the rule would be implemented. The resulting impasse over imports crimped supply and pushed up domestic prices. India's current account deficit hit an all-time high in 2012/13 and the rupee hit a record low last month. Gold is the most expensive non-essential item in India's import bill.

DeaconBenjamin · Sep 20, 2013 - 8:15am

Al-Qaeda group and FSA declare truce as Turkey keeps Syria borde

Turkey has temporarily closed its Öncüpınar border gate in the southeastern province of Kilis, after fighting between Syrian rebels and an al-Qaeda front group in the northern town of Azaz. Al-Qaeda front group the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) and rebels of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) declared a truce Sept.20 after two days of clashes near the Turkish frontier. The agreement called for an immediate ceasefire, the release of prisoners and for a dispute over control of the border post with Turkey to be referred to a rebel court. Azaz, on the Turkish border, was one of the first towns to be overrun, in July 2012, by FSA rebels, who set up their own administration there. The Öncüpınar crossing in Turkey’s Kilis province sits opposite the Syrian Bab al-Salameh gate, around five kilometers from Azaz. “It is a temporary measure,” a Turkish diplomat speaking on condition of anonymity told the Hürriyet Daily News, confirming that the Öncüpınar gate had been closed. “At this stage, it has been closed as a precaution because of the mobility on the other side of the border.” Kilis Gov. Süleyman Tapsız, meanwhile, said the border gate had been closed to everything apart from vehicles carrying humanitarian aid. Earlier in the day, Foreign Ministry spokesperson Levent Gümrükçü told reporters at a press conference that there was no clash near the border area close to Turkey. The same Turkish diplomat confirmed that no clash near the Turkish side of the border had yet been reported as of late afternoon on Sept. 19. “However, there is an ongoing clash on the other side,” he added, indicating the possibility of an expansion of clashes. The fighting in Azaz began when ISIS fighters tried to kidnap a German doctor working there, according to the Syrian Observatory, which also said he is now in a safe location. “There are attempts to mediate between the factions. Azaz is home to many people who fled [the nearby city of] Aleppo,” observatory director Rami Abdel Rahman told Agence France-Presse. “They want to live in a safe place, not one where anything that moves gets sniped.” Tensions between some opposition groups and ISIS have spiraled in recent months, especially in northern Syria, where opposition forces control vast swathes of territory. Several local groups resent ISIS’ growing territorial control, its steady supply of arms, as well as its brutality, which opponents often compare to that of the regime. ISIS, on the other hand, accuses some rebels affiliated with the FSA’s Supreme Military Command of collaborating with the West, and of being “heretics.” “By taking Azaz, the Islamic State is a step closer to controlling the crossing. Its objective seems to be taking over the whole countryside north of Aleppo,” activist Abu Louay al-Halabi said. Another activist, Abdallah Tareq, said the violence had undermined efforts to capitalize on the relative weakness of President Bashar al-Assad’s forces in the north of the country. “Every rebel group is suspicious of each other and the regime has been good at exploiting this. Not only we have been seeing fighting between the Free Syrian army and al-Qaeda, but also among the Free Syrian Army itself and jihadists against jihadists,” he said. Al-Assad, in an interview with U.S. network Fox News, insisted Syria was not gripped by civil war, but was the victim of infiltration by foreign-backed al-Qaeda fighters. “What we have is not civil war. What we have is war. It’s a new kind of war,” he said, alleging that Islamist guerrillas from more than 80 countries had joined the fight. “We know that we have tens of thousands of jihadists ... we are on the ground, we live in this country,” he said, after an expert report that suggested between 40 and 45 percent out of around 100,000 rebels were jihadists or hardline Islamists. “What I can tell you is that ... 80 to 90 percent of the underground terrorists are al-Qaeda and their offshoots,” the president said.

ag1969 · Sep 20, 2013 - 8:21am

Jihadi Blitzkrieg in Syria

Jihadi Blitzkrieg in Syria: Islamist militants are wiping out the moderate rebels September 19, 2013 By 21wire Leave a Comment

21st Century Wire says…

image504519x.jpegJohn Kerry and John McCain should be pleased to know that following their humiliating gaff of pinning their policy statements on the fake PhD Middle East “expert” Elizabeth O’Bagy, the truth is literally bleeding out in Syria, as jihadists are over-running the remaining “moderate rebels” in Syria.

Below is just the latest in a long string of reports now pouring out from media outlets across the globe – all unanimously reporting that the moderate opposition in Syria is a marginal one at best. Soon the US will have to answer for their present air strike contingency policy of arming al Qaeda’s army in Syria. Heads should roll, but it’s a question of whether the American political, justice and media system actually has the wherewithal to prosecute this rancid and highly illegal US policy.

RT reports…

Al-Qaeda-linked jihadists in Syria have begun an offensive against former allies, wrestling moderate FSA rebels out of the controlled areas. With the US assault on Syria postponed, radical Islamists are seeking ultimate authority to fight Assad.

6th Amendment

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.

DeaconBenjamin · Sep 20, 2013 - 8:22am

Tunisian women waging 'sex jihad' in Syria

Tunisian women have travelled to Syria to wage "sex jihad" by comforting Islamist fighters battling the regime there, Interior Minister Lotfi ben Jeddou has told MPs. "They have sexual relations with 20, 30, 100" militants, the minister told members of the National Constituent Assembly on Thursday. "After the sexual liaisons they have there in the name of 'jihad al-nikah' - (sexual holy war, in Arabic) - they come home pregnant," Ben Jeddou told the MPs. He did not elaborate on how many Tunisian women had returned to the country pregnant with the children of jihadist fighters. Jihad al-nikah, permitting extramarital sexual relations with multiple partners, is considered by some hardline Sunni Muslim Salafists as a legitimate form of holy war. The minister also did not say how many Tunisian women were thought to have gone to Syria for such a purpose, although media reports have said hundreds have done so. Hundreds of Tunisian men have also gone to join the ranks of the jihadists fighting to bring down the regime of President Bashar al-Assad. However, Ben Jeddou also said that since he assumed office in March, "six thousand of our young people have been prevented from going there" to Syria. He has said in the past that border controls have been boosted to intercept young Tunisians seeking to travel to Syria. Media reports say thousands of Tunisians have, over the past 15 years, joined jihadists across the world in Afghanistan Iraq and Syria, mainly travelling via Turkey or Libya. Abu Iyadh, who leads the country's main Salafist movement Ansar al-Sharia, is the suspected organiser of a deadly attack last year on the US embassy in Tunis and an Afghanistan veteran. He was joint leader of a group responsible for the September 9, 2001 assassination in Afghanistan of anti-Taliban Northern Alliance leader Ahmad Shah Massoud by suicide bombers. That attack came just two days before the deadly Al-Qaeda attacks on the World Trade Centre in New York and Pentagon in Washington.

boatman · Sep 20, 2013 - 8:24am

5000 years of hatred

to be solved by John Kerry?

not even in the totally unforseeable future of eons.

bullion only boatman · Sep 20, 2013 - 8:28am

Who said this? “We must face

Who said this?

“We must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent nor omniscient, that we cannot impose our will upon the other 94 percent of mankind, that we cannot right every wrong or reverse every adversity, and that therefore there cannot be an American solution to every world problem.” 

bullion only bullion only · Sep 20, 2013 - 8:30am

JFK No wonder he was


No wonder he was eliminated by the powers that be. 

bullion only bullion only · Sep 20, 2013 - 8:30am

JFK No wonder he was


No wonder he was eliminated by the powers that be. 

erewenguy · Sep 20, 2013 - 8:54am

Off topic

"Nobody can tell the real story of this finding. Nobody knows who buried it here, at the place where a Cossack village used be situated more than 200 years ago. But we can only imagine what euphoria is felt when you manage to find something so old and precious. It’s like a time travel, like touching the history of your ancestors.

A couple of guys whose hobby is looking for old buried stuff were lucky enough to find 297 five-kopeck coins of czarinas Elizabeth and Catherine and 27 silver coins of different denominations. The “youngest” of them are dated 1802."

¤ · Sep 20, 2013 - 9:00am

Cynicism Defined

Cynicism is an attitude or state of mind characterized by a general distrust of others' apparent motives or ambitions, or a general lack of faith or hope in the human race or in individuals with desires, hopes, opinions, or personal tastes that a cynic perceives as unrealistic or inappropriate, therefore deserving of ridicule or admonishment.


Good post JY and aptly titled to boot. 

Cynicism is where I'm at also regarding Syria and the (non)events that've slowly unfolded since Kerry 's (intentional?) gaffe opening the window to Syria being neutered of their chemical arms instead of the US blowing them up and neutering Assad's military at the same time.

I like your thoughts on the Kremlin (and China?) telling DC that they'll dump UST's as a response to a Syrian attack and it wouldn't surprise me if Vlad implied it to Obama or Sergey Lanrov did so to John Kerry during the G20 run-up.

What's interesting, as you astutely mentioned, is that there seems to be this sudden (years in the making?) tie-in with Iran and their new president and the Iranian nuclear program being tied in with the Syrian deal. I guess they're at the point where the head of the snake over in MENA (Iran) realizes that if Syria is taken out that they'll also be taken out eventually.

What I don't see is this Syrian chemical or Iranian nuclear two-for-one "deal" ever actually taking place effectively. What I see is that Obama is being played like a peace fiddle when the Russians and Iranians will just string him out while holding out hope that a grand deal is possible for him. They know he's avoidant of war for political reasons and they're playing him because they know they can.

No matter what diplomatic hope and cooling off period seems to be underway it's important to keep an ear and eye open as to what's actually taking place on the ground (or in the Mediterranean) and see what they're actually doing while these peaceful MSM overtones are flowing generously.

Diplomatically speaking I still see some childish undiplomatic barbs being thrown at the very highest levels by Putin last week with that NY Times op-ed and then followed up by McCains tit-for-tat in his Pravda op-ed. What I'm not hearing is a bit more ominous maybe and that's the silence coming from Saudi Arabia and Israel and this point. Will they adhere to a US brokered deal or do they have their own agenda that they'll silently still pursue against Assad? Probably so.

This peaceful resolution (which I don't think will happen) can't be going over too well with them at this point after much capital, logistical resources, planning and hope went into Assad's planned downfall. Their silence at this point is telling but it probably doesn't belie their activities on the ground over there.

There is still a hot and active war of sorts going on in Syria these last two years and just because their isn't an official US attack underway doesn't mean that a concerted effort isn't underway by them to achieve their stated goal of eroding Assad's capacity to lead Syria further. Also, the rebels that are massed over there aren't simply going to run away when the game is still being played and still on the brink of fully combusting and US arms are just starting to flow in.

I don't see this Syrian situation or the Iranian nuclear issue simply going away. On the contrary, I see it going on for much longer now that the Iranians and Russians have tied the hope of a dual Syria chemical arms/Iranian nuclear technology deal that Obama see's as a possible hallmark achievement that seems within his grasp.

I don't see that grand deal happening in the way that will satisfy all parties involved and their are many of them in the mix....strangely silent yet still fully involved and still arming their proxies to the teeth as I type this.


A Free Syrian Army fighter runs for cover from snipers loyal to Syria's President Bashar al-Assad in the Al-Sakhour neighborhood of Aleppo September 19, 2013. REUTERS/Hamid Khatib Syria

Syrian rebels may lose the West

By Khaled Yacoub Oweis

AMMAN - The Syrian opposition feels badly let down by Washington's decision to do a deal with Moscow to eliminate Bashar al-Assad's chemical weapons but diplomats are warning the Syrian National Coalition that it risks losing Western support. Full Article

Hammer · Sep 20, 2013 - 9:20am
John Galt · Sep 20, 2013 - 9:33am

@ JY re: The Real Issue in Syria

JY - Thanks for posting that perspective. From the standpoint of where public opinion and politicians stand on Syria this makes a good deal of sense.

My feeling is that despite the very real political, economic and national security differences that exist between the various players involved, the real story taking place there has to do with centralized banking and the ultimate move to a single world currency.

The one photo you posted shows Obama whispering to Medvedev. What we do not see is an equivalent photo of Bernanke sitting with the head of the Russian central bank, because the likelihood is that they are sitting together in the shadows alongside the heads of the central banks in countries such as China, India, Brazil, South Africa and all of the others who cooperate with one another under the auspices of the BIS.

The BIS, of course, is the central bank of central banks.

In my opinion the master BIS central banking plan in Syria, Iran and other states (particularly Muslim ones who either don't have central banks, or they do have central banks but not ones that embrace usury and the inevitable debt enslavement of their citizens) is to first bring all of the world's masses under the same BIS central banking umbrella before making the shift to a single one world currency.

Any nation that does not embrace the debt enslavement of its citizens does not have a central bank that is a member of the BIS.

I think the turmoil over whether gas weapons were used in Syria, or what religious/political differences exist there, or whether pipelines are or are not going to be built there are very real, but secondary, concerns. And these topics do provide excellent material as distraction for the MSM and alternative media.

But this is little more than a distraction to hide the real agenda,IMO.

If you look at this list of BIS members (taken from the BIS website and look at it from a higher level governance perspective i.e. "you're either with us, or you're against us", it is evident that a different picture emerges as to who the real powers behind the curtain are.

Algeria, Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brazil, Bulgaria, Canada, Chile, China, Colombia, Croatia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hong Kong SAR, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Macedonia (FYR), Malaysia, Mexico, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Peru, the Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Serbia, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Thailand, Turkey, the United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom and the United States, plus the European Central Bank. The real powers in all this are the central bankers, not the politicians. Of course, the question that then needs to be asked is "if the BIS is in control of the central banks, who controls the BIS?"
John Galt · Sep 20, 2013 - 9:40am

Tower of Basel

I came across this book while digging for info on my earlier comment.

· Sep 20, 2013 - 9:54am

Cynical indeed

Yes! Let us send our top sociopathic criminal politicians to persuade middle eastern sects and people groups to lay down their arms and go back to being subjugated by Western puppets. Now that is a plan I can believe in.

abguy4 · Sep 20, 2013 - 10:16am

When the gods are bored

When the gods are bored, they give men religion.

We know that religion is not the real central issue. It's just the never-ending convenient tool for the Socio-paths to use to manipulate the masses. Divide and conquer (or rule and endlessly manipulate). Some recent comedian defined religion as ; 'The fictitious man in your head that said something 2000 years ago that disagrees with something the fictitious man in my head might have said 2000 years ago.' Or something like that. What pathetic insanity.

I have a friend who was raised in the ME. I asked him why those people cling to such barbaric insanities (as opposed to the barbaric insanities some cling to here). He says simply that 99% of the people have absolutely nothing else.

There are the privileged princes, and then there's everybody else walking around eating dirt. The religions give them identity and fill all the massive voids in their lives. From that perspective you can almost sympathize with them. It's the zealots here, that are perhaps more inexcusable.

opticsguy · Sep 20, 2013 - 10:19am

from Daily Kos

if you're playing the miners, GDX option pain minimum is $26. I expect to see that today.

¤ · Sep 20, 2013 - 10:27am

John Galt

Green Lantern had a great post about the BIS and referenced that book a few weeks ago in case you missed it. enlightened

I don't have time to locate it right now, sorry.

Bugzy · Sep 20, 2013 - 10:33am

If, When

Taper has been front and center. A lot of folk now understand what QE does, what tapering or not being able to taper, after 5 years "recovery" actually means. So... that said. If they ever needed to increase the QE from here. ALL confidence would be lost. I think that "they" have shot their load so to speak with all this talk of taper and the expectations. They either get it fixed and soon, or they have lost it.

John Galt, I enjoy reading your posts. yes

Dagney Taggart · Sep 20, 2013 - 10:35am

Syria has no Chemical Weapons

If they do, two words: Prove it.

And anybody who says otherwise, including here in Turdville, is nothing but a liar (for now). I'm getting really bored by this horrible stench of late which reeks of lies, bloodthirst, and desperation carried on the usually pleasant southerly breeze we get here.

American politician after politician saying they have had the proof for weeks now. Uh huh. Let's see "innocent until proven guilty" for once.

How's that for Cynical?

OK. I'm off to produce something of value, unlike my American destroyer neighbors.

John Galt · Sep 20, 2013 - 10:40am

@ DPH and GL and Bugzy

DPH - Thanks for pointing that out. I must have missed that.

GL - My apologies for not passing along credit where due. 

Bugzy - Thanks!

John Galt · Sep 20, 2013 - 10:49am

@ Dagney re: Prove it?

Doesn't that assume the existence of a Rule of Law?


tread_w_care · Sep 20, 2013 - 10:58am
ReachWest · Sep 20, 2013 - 11:03am

Well Placed Cynacism

Thanks JY - Certainly lots to chew on. I don't believe that peace is about to break out in MENA - quite the contrary. Call me cynical.

I am convinced that the big power players (Russia, China) are using financial threats against the US. It only makes sense. The US has placed itself firmly in a very weak position financially and there is no doubt that the Chinese and the Russians can see - hell, if Turdites see it - they most assuredly do.

I see a scenario where the Russians and/or China sink the US into third world status while firing nary a shot. We are on the precipice of such a strategic move and I think it's highly probable that MENA is the lynch-pin that can be used to initiate the decline via derivatives. Thereafter USD - look out below.

buzlightening · Sep 20, 2013 - 11:04am

When will the PM kill shots downside end?

Very soon and so many stacking for less. With quad witching oex you had to know there would be no upside to metals until after this OEX passes. Rolling into the Oct month there's only one thing stopping the metals from an upside explosion. It's the EE bullion banksters with empty vaults. All western bullion banksters on the edge and with bonds rising there will be much more sweaty old sticks of dynamite to juggle in keeping bonzi low in yields in place. Hang in there stackers. I could care less about the paper shufflers going long or short & crying fowl. It's the .999 physical metals in hand which always win; always when debt goes wild. 

realitybiter ag1969 · Sep 20, 2013 - 11:19am

Elizabeth O'Bagy

works for the Institute of War. Both McCain and Kerry used her expert, "Dr OBagy", testimony and study as the expert witness testimony they needed to form their argument for bombing Syria. Independent?

Lets look:

The Institute for the Study of War is ran by a woman named Kimberly Kagan who is married to Frederick Kagan, brother of Robert Kagan. Robert co-founded PNAC, with Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol (on Fox always). Robert was McCains foreign policy advisor in 2008. Both Frederick and Robert, and their Father, Donald are signatories on the PNAC manifesto, which reads like a dot to dot Country occupation of MENA (folks who brought you what we really need to speed this whole process up is a "New Pearl Harbor" pg 51). It reads like the last 12 years foreign policy. Afghan - check, Iraq - check...Libya, Syria, Egypt....and the biggy- Iran

It is Crazy. Calling O'Bagy independent is a joke. Why don't they just say, "on page 72 of our PNAC doc that we wrote in 1998 it says we are supposed bomb Syria." So we are going to do it. O'Bagy hadn't even entered college when these guys made that document.

It is funny that the institute was so sloppy that they let this gal get torpedoed due to her lying about her PhD. I would have never made the other connections...Irish name and all....

But the Kagans....all they want is for America to fight and fight and fight in MENA (their words)...and I am pretty confident they are all dual citizens (my speculation), clearly splitting their allegiance to America with Israel. They are welcome to their opinions....but Americans deserve to know who these people really are and understand their very strong bias towards Israel. They do not have Americas interest first. It is Israel's (my opinion, based on their writing). If Americans are okay with Joe down the street dying in Iraq or Syria for Israel's benefit, then that is fine....but they should know who Joe is fighting for. By the way, not to give anybody more ammo to throw at me, but Catholics, Protestants, atheists, even Muslims all demographically represent themselves consistent with their demographic population in the US military. Those biased toward Israel? They make up less than half of one percent of the military population. Go spend an hour at Joe's grave and get back to me how that makes you feel. Man up or shut up. It simply is horribly biased and unfair. Spare me the anti semitic BS, This is simply national policy, has nothing to do with religion. You should know who people are, what their biases are, and who pays them. My Bias? America... and paid by no one.

realitybiter · Sep 20, 2013 - 11:32am

Annapolis reject writes for Obama

I am amazed the Obama let McCain write is op-ed piece in Pravda (Russinan for the Truth). McCain is not the sharpest tool in the shed, yet there he is writing in the Russian paper, his criticism of Vlad Putin. Do you want John McCain to speak for us through his writing? He actually criticized Russia for their unfree press and their imprisonment of people for political reasons. Has he read NDAA? Has he listened to the NSA hearings? Is he aware of the AG wiretaps on AP journalists? Does he think the Russians can't read

It is crazy. Russians, today, must feel like we felt in the 70's....when the Russians would just write lie after lie after lie...and 

apparently Vlad Putin is now the leader of the Free World.

Why would the President of the US allow McCain, bottom feeder of his Annapolis class, to respond to the President of Russia? ....I realize he likely had lots of help, but still, politically, it is a joke. Would the President of any Corporation allow someone 4 levels down to respond to another CEO? I think not.

Just me venting during the hammertime...

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11/28 10:00 ET New home sales
11/29 8:30 ET Personal Income and Spending
11/29 10:00 ET Pending home sales
11/29 2:00 ET November FOMC minutes

Key Economic Events week of 11/19

11/20 8:30 ET Housing Starts
11/21 8:30 ET Durable Goods
11/21 10:00 ET UMich Sentiment
11/21 10:00 ET LEIII
11/21 10:00 ET Existing Home Sales