Guest Post: Obamacare and Other Threats to Liberty, by "CaliforniaLawyer"

Sat, Jul 6, 2013 - 11:56am

Our string of guest posts concludes today with this excellent piece submitted by The Attorney General of The Great Nation of Royal Turdistan, CALawyer esq. etc. etc.

Obamacare and Other Threats to Liberty

by, "CaliforniaLawyer"

Let’s connect some dots. Let’s examine some facts, draw some conclusions, and make some predictions.
First, the facts:
(1) Obamacare was enacted, and has or will soon be fully implemented;
(2) Pursuant to the comprehensive scheme of Obamacare, the federal government will now have complete and total access to all medical records of the people [I am not sure, because I have not studied, whether Obamacare grants the federal government access to the healthcare records of illegal aliens, but I assume so, so I make no distinction here between citizens and non-citizens of the United States];
(3) Existing state law, at least in California, prohibits a person from possession of firearm, including ammunition, where such person has been detained under California Welfare and Institutions Code § 5150, which law provides for detention and a 72 hour mental health evaluation of a person considered a danger to himself/herself or others. Such a person detained under section 5150 is subject to a five-year ban on firearms possession and is disqualified from possession, including no use of firearms at the range, no hunting, no ammunition; such person can petition the court for an early termination of the firearm possession prohibition per Welfare and Institutions Code § 8103;
(4) Additionally, there is a long-standing rule in California that any person at any time may petition any state court in California for a temporary restraining order based solely upon a signed declaration from that person claiming that a person has threatened immediate harm. This is a GREAT rule for lots of reasons but there are unintended consequences and ramifications that become chilling in the context of Obamacare. So long as the declaration, which is sworn testimony under oath, contains a bare minimum of facts describing some immediate threat of harm whether true or not, the temporary restraining order will be issued by the court.
(5) Once a temporary restraining order is issued by the court, the restrained person is required to surrender any and all firearms to a local law enforcement agency. If not, the restrained person is now subject to criminal penalties for contempt and possibly worse, including potential felony possession of firearms.
(6) A temporary restraining order automatically terminates after 10 days, unless thereafter, the person who obtained the initial temporary restraining order goes back to the court on the tenth day, and presents sufficient testimony convincing a judge that the temporary restraining order should be turned into a permanent restraining order.
(7) If the temporary restraining order becomes permanent, the restrained person is barred from possession of firearms pursuant to the terms of the court order. The only judicial remedy for the restrained person is for the restrained person to appeal the ruling, which takes time and money obviously, but in the meanwhile, the restrained person is prohibited from possessing firearms.
(8) Similarly, a person arrested for a crime of violence, is required to turn over all firearms to law enforcement. Remember, an arrested person is presumed innocent; yet, upon an arrest, the presumed innocent person suffers an actual loss, which is possession of any firearms.
(9) Both a person arrested for a crime of violence, and a person subject to a temporary/permanent restraining order must surrender firearms to a local law enforcement agency. Such firearms held by law enforcement incur a “storage fee.” In one case I did, storage fees by a local law enforcement agency were $50 per firearm per month. A “firearm” was broadly defined, and included with respect to a shotgun, different barrels for the same lower receiver. In that case, the restrained person had three heirlooms: two pistols and shotgun with multiple barrels, which were all surrendered to law enforcement after an arrest on bogus charges [two juveniles smoking pot behind a dumpster accused a sixty year old man of threatening them]. Months later, after all charges were dropped, and after successfully obtaining a court order mandating the return of the weapons to the client, the storage fees ended up exceeding the value of the firearms dramatically. The court would not reduce the “storage fees” and the firearms would not be released unless the storage fees were paid to the local police department. Naturally, the client refused to pay the extortionate storage fees. The firearms remain in custody pursuant to the court order, have been destroyed or who knows? True story.
(10) But wait, there's more. Existing federal law prohibits persons who have “been adjudicated as a mental defective or who [have] been committed to a mental institution” from ever owning a firearm. 18 U.S.C. § 922. A California §5150 hold is within the purview of 18 U.S.C. § 922.
(11) Meanwhile, back at the SCOTUS, the Justices delivered up another crushing blow to freedom, . From the blog: “When petitioner [the criminal suspect] had not yet been placed in custody or received Miranda warnings, and voluntarily responded to some questions by police about a murder, the prosecution’s use of his silence in response to another question as evidence of his guilt at trial did not violate the Fifth Amendment because petitioner failed to expressly invoke his privilege not to incriminate himself in response to the officer’s question.” From another blog ( “ On Monday, the court ruled on Salinas v. Texas, in which it was determined that although you have the right to remain silent, you do so at your own peril.
Here’s what happened: Genovevo Salinas had attended a party at a house in Houston the night before the two brothers that lived there had been shot. He was called in for questioning, and was not read his Miranda rights because at the time he was just considered a possible witness. When he was asked about whether or not the bullets from the shotgun he owned might match the ones found at the house, he refused to say anything. When he was eventually put on trial for the murder, prosecutors brought up his remaining silent as “evidence” that he was covering something up. Which pretty much defeats the entire purpose of the 5th Amendment. Prosecutors are never allowed to use an exercise of the the right to remain silent against someone.
However, the Supreme Court ruled that because Salinas had not been arrested and did come right out and invoke the 5th Amendment while being questioned, his silence didn’t count as part and parcel of that right. This is total bullshit. What this means is that if you are not a suspect in a crime and thus not read your Miranda Rights but you are questioned by police nonetheless, you now have to “formally” invoke your right to remain silent or your silence can be used against you in a court of law.
(12) Wow. See how it works? A criminal suspect is arrested, questioned, but does not specifically invoke his right to remain silent. At the later criminal trial, the prosecutor can say to the jury: “the criminal defendant did not say anything to offer an explanation, therefore, he must be guilty.” This decision has been roundly criticized, and rightly so. ( Do a google search for “supreme court 5th amendment” and you will find many articles. Look for yourself and see what is happening.

Connecting the Dots:
Having now identified the facts, let’s draw some conclusions and make predictions.
(1) Freedom and liberty are eroding, marginally but inexorably. Ignore this obvious reality at your peril.
(2) Both the federal and state governments continue to expand their reach into what has traditionally been completely private and off-limits, such as one’s personal medical information.
(3) Recent federal scandals involving federal government agencies such as the NSA and IRS, such scandals coming to light by whistle blowers, leave no room to argue that such federal intrusion is benign.
(4) The federal government has or will soon have pursuant to Obamacare, complete knowledge over everyone and, from there, as shown above regarding Second Amendment and Fifth Amendment rights, there is no logical limitation to the federal government’s power at all. Is anyone concerned yet?

In light of all recent events, is it not imperative to prepare accordingly? 

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Jul 6, 2013 - 11:59am



Jul 6, 2013 - 12:01pm

Little Support for Ponzi Units

The “market” missed an important item in June’s weak job report. The household survey reported that part-time jobs soared by 360,000 to over 28 million – an all time record highFull time jobs? Down 240,000.With defense furloughs starting up this week, gasoline prices surging again, mortgage rates increasing, and the bond bubble swoon hurting the bogus wealth effect, it’s going to become harder and harder for the government to lie about what’s really going in the economy.

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Jul 6, 2013 - 12:05pm


good piece

Jul 6, 2013 - 12:20pm

Nicely Done CA

Very succinct and laid out in a logical and easy to read manner. The institution of SCOTUS doesn't get talked about much except for specific cases but it seems to me that the letter of the law (constitutional) is increasingly being made fuzzier in an attempt to broaden and dilute the intended original meaning of certain amendments. We're only at the doorstep of a distorted/dangerous era in American history. The rule of law is being blurred and then ignored.

Jul 6, 2013 - 12:23pm

One step further...

one group cannot have something that the remainder of the world does not have. We must work together towards a common goal. Everything layed out before me points to this one direction. Over the last decade+ we have seen an absolute trashing of the Constitution....... It will be portrayed as irrelevant and likened to a roadblock to progress/safety in increasing manner......everywhere one looks, until believed to be true by the "majority".

Jul 6, 2013 - 12:24pm

Third by a Turd!!

In there for a TOP TENNER!!! Or is it a tender offer?

Not to be confused with California Lawyer, he actually has a bar card. Poor thing!

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I got enough to last a long time, but not that much.

I am willing to sell 10,000 shiny, right now, at fifty each.
I will put it all in going all out, like always.
Trudville can grease that rat bastard, ourselves, right now.

A Buyer can off load the metal for 200K.
A Buyer will have a 300K capital loss, right now.
At 33% tax rate, the buyer can save 100K in taxes.
The buyer will be effectively down 200K loss.
A Buyer will effectively put 200K on the line, right now.
I will match that effectively putting 200K on the line, right now.

If we win, with an estimated 11:1 odds in our favor,
the Buyer gets 2 million back, when the case settles out.
The buyer will effectively get a ten times ROR on invested money.

This is Vegas, rolling them the hard ways, but with loaded dice.
We can do it! We can grease that rat bastard, right now.

We got the plaintiff, three experts and the Litigator, yours, right now.
The litigator, yours truly, would have heart and skin in the game.

The Litigator knows the bullion world enough to take down JPM.

Anyone with me? Turd has a Copy of Plan A, though he may not understand it all.

USA Attack Plan B on TBTF TBTJ Greedster

Posted by Derrick Michael Reid on Saturday, July 06, 2013 5:23:12 AM

Attack Plain A was developed during May and June 2013. Now, Attack Plan B has been rapidly developed mostly as a funding alternative.

After the light bulb went off 4/29/13, of an understanding how to take down the TBTF TBTJ greedster in the USA, and to liberate the people, eight weeks were spent drafting up that attack plan, attack plan A. The first two weeks of July 2013 were to be used for and are presently being used to publicize attack plan A, in the hopes that someone with means would step up and fund a very robust assault on the TBTF TBTJ Greedsters Mob Boss who unduly influences and corrupts the US Government whilst enabling the enslavement of the people while the TBTF TBTJ Greedster Mob Boss officers live like kings. That funding effort continues. However, another plan, attack plan B, has been quickly developed, and very rapidly so, as merely a downsizing of attack plan A.

First is required an understanding of Attack Plan A as compared to Attack Plan B.

Attack Plan A is a robust assault on the TBTJ TBTF Greedster Mob Boss JPM. Plan A requires 6m$ in funding and includes many diversionary trial court tactics, including misdirections, MOPE public rallies, Chief Judge assignment motion, En Banc five man judge review motion, multiple summary judgment motions, expedited discovery motions, in dept six plaintiff assault, extensive hiring of GOLD notable as nine trial experts, and a six man attorney litigation team of four law firms. A 157 page single lined pace detailed attack plan was developed and has been confidentially distributed to some extent and transmitted to the preferred financier. The proposed action would be brought in a gun totting state, for simple tort claims, with a preliminary injunction motion, where morality is the central issue under the equitable jurisdiction of the district court, so as to shut down the TBTF TBTJ greedster JPM mob boss in the bullion space. The attack team comprises six plaintiffs, six attorneys and nine high profile gold notable experts, for a total of a 21 man team with an expected six month time duration from funding to enjoin the TBTF TBTJ Greedster mob boss in the gold and silver bullion space.

Attack B is merely a downsizing of attack plan A. Hence, Attack plan B was rapidly developed in only a couple of days. Attack plan B does not include use the misdirections, MOPE public rallies, Chief Judge assignment motion, En Banc five man judge review motion, multiple summary judgment motions, expedited discovery motions, an in-depth six man plaintiff assault, extensive hiring of GOLD notables as nine experts, and a six man attorney litigation team over four law firms.

Rather, downsized attack plan B uses only one plaintiff, only one litigator, yours truly, only one local counsel in a gun toting conservative state, and just three experts who are already close associates of the plaintiff and who are already in regular contact with the plaintiff. Thus, attack plan B, is only six man team, but is still brought in a gun toting state, along a narrow front of simple tort claims, with a preliminary injunction motion. URL based judicial notice will be more heavily relied upon, for enhanced cost effective judicial prosecution, so that, in attack B, there is still the same time horizon of six months from funding. Attack plan B is a viable option to attack plan A, particularly where funding is of issue, and attack plan B is estimated to cost 500K$, which is 1/12 of attack plan A. Under attack plan B, the one plaintiff, the three experts and the one litigator have already been selected and are totally on board, leaving only the selection of only one local counsel in the selected gun toting state district for bringing essentially the same legal action in a federal district court there.

Both Attack A and Attack plan B have the very same primary, secondary and tertiary objectives.

Primary Objectives are to enjoin the TBTF TBTJ Greedster mob boss JPM, so that bullion gold and silver bullion are liberated from the paper price manipulations on the Comex, so as to stop irreparable harm by the greedster mob boss in the bullion space.

Secondary Objectives, flowing naturally from primary objectives, are the destruction of the fraudulent irredeemable US FRN paper money as the US paper currency of the FED bank, under the current fiat paper monetary ponzie scheme of the current leftist totalitarian socialistic US Government that are used to enslave the American people as tax mules and state dependents.

Tertiary Objectives, flowing naturally from the secondary objectives, are the destruction of the GOLD CARTEL of 15 TBTF TBTJ greedster banks profiting off of the bullion price manipulation, and the destruction of World Central Bank fiat currency paper printing, so as to force the World Central Banks to stop printing and passing fraudulent fiat currency notes, but rather to have all nations use exclusively Gold and Silver honest real money as the medium of exchange, so as to force all governments to live within their means so as to stop robbing the people through monetary inflationary paper money printing, which robs all paper currency note holders every day that then concentrates power in the governments who enable totalitarian control over the people, so as to free peoples worldwide from socialistic totalitarian enslavement as government tax mules and state dependents.

Of course, I would, as the vicious ruthless litigator of the attack team, as it would only take 10 days to get the bar license reinstated to reactivate that 100% plaintiff success rate, have to relocate for one year to the selected judicial district and man an HQ office, and sure I would miss the home, and the honey, and the two young boys 8yo and 10yo, and I would miss teaching them daily the wonders of the universe and playing with them as house husband and helping them with elementary school home work, for one year, but, I have been retired four years now, studying up on the bullion markets and the TBTF TBTJ greedster mob boss, and I am ready to come off the bench, as duty's call is simply irresistible, as it was for my 28yo US Army boy, a Army lifer, who has served three tours in the Middle East, and I am ready to answer the call of duty, and besides, the young boys are old enough now, and the honey and the two young boys could come for short visits over that year, so it seems that all systems are a go, save 500K$ in funding with an 8x ROR to the financier.

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Posted by Derrick Michael Reid on Friday, July 05, 2013 8:26:07 PM

As long we are having fun fun fun, lets let it all hang out, I mean you can make this sutff up.

In connection with TARP, the Paulson gang raped the US Government, and came onto the executive, GW Bush, who was purportedly forced into TARP to save the Banksters and Greedsters of the Financial system.

The Government does not want the FRN reserve currency to fail, so as to continue the inflationary robbing of the US people so as to sustain Government Military leverage and Totalitarian control over the people by the US Government through IRS income taxes and paper money printing.

The Government in effect controls the FED having available gold hoards for Governmental use.

Bill Murphy of GATA hits a dead end regarding Fort Knot gold hoard, as it is a national secret and gold stores are not disclosed.

Reid fingers China as the secret buyer of Gold bullion April fools 2009 on bloomberg with Ernie Low.

The FED accommodates JPM with ZIRP policy so that JPM can borrow money free at US taxpayer expense to then be able to sell bullion naked short on the Comex.

James G Rickards says that there is no manipulation, and hence, some unknown client of JPM must have gold hoards available to sustain the so called naked short position allegedly using hedged client money.

Eric Sprott indicates that supply and demand figures do not square up, and that the there must be another source of bullion for the greedster bullion banks to sale bullion, even if through naked short sells.

JPM naked short sales on the Comex are used to manipulate the bullion market, using free paper money through the FED ZIRP, to make the FRN look much better than it actually is, and JPM is rewarded by TBTF TBTJ status by the US Attorney General, so that JPM is able to acquire physical gold such as GLD through bullion price manipulation for profit sales on the Comex market and to through bullion sells to open arms China.

China central government manipulated that China gold market and thus conspires with JPM to price manipulate the bullion space on the Comex so that JPM can then acquire physical bullion and sell it at a profit to China to take possession of physical through Honk Kong.

The FED engages in QE to infinity at taxpayer expense, and thus many project that the FRN will eventually fail, and thus, is motivated to help sell of bullion as the money alternative to the FRN, so that bullion is acquired by JPM and low prices for sells to China and thus the FED and JPM are consider treasonous to the people of the US.

JPM rallies members of the Gold Cartel to synchronously MOPE gold buyers, through front running market signals and early FED press releases to special members so as to help sell bullion and manipulate the price of bullion lower, so as to gang sell paper bullion prices on the Comex to make profits and then sell acquired physical bullion to open arms china.

JPM front run and stack orders as market electronic detection signals to other member of the Gold Cartel Members all racketeering to manipulate the price of bullion lower.

Andrew Maquire discovers the market stacking detection signals, a smoking gun, and is threatened so as to shut him up.

Andrew Maquire takes the detection signaling method discovery to corrupt CTFC and the DC court to save his neck in a dead end procedure play.

FED engages in QE at taxpayer expense, to sustain the totalitarian control of the US Government, with fiscal deficits as far as the eye can see, and with a national debt which will never be paid off.

US Government generates false BLS reports to pretend and extend US dominance and totalitarian controls over the US People.

The DNC and RNC are overt conspirators with the US Government to destroy the Republic and enslave the people of the US, so as to vest all power in the totalitarian US Government, and their political futures, while the DNC and RNC lock up the voting booth through MOPE of the US people offering no effective vote at all.

The judicial Bench is corrupted by congressional political totalitarians of the DNC and RNC, allowing the US Federal Government to have Plenary Power over the US People, so as to sustain the Military Power control over the world and the totalitarian control over the US people by the US Government.

The totalitarian control by the US Government is based upon IRS paper taxes and printing of FED money, the two tools used by the US Government to sustain the totalitarian control over the people.

Paper money printing is a ponzie scheme, the FRN is an irredeemable note, as a con game fraud upon the FRN holders world wide.

JPM and the gold cartel comply with all trading laws and criminal statutes and are thus untouchable under TBTF and TBTJ at law actions before the king's judicial bench granting the Federal Government Plenary power.

Reid proposes a simple tort action in equity to defeat JPM with morality being the central issue, drafting a 160 page attack play, brought in gun toting states and outside of the two west and east coasts where the legal bench is corrupted and in lock step with the US central socialized totalitarian control of the US Government in DC. 

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Reid proposes plan B, the quick strike against JPM and the Gold Cartel to liberate the bullion space and free the people from totalitarian rule by the US Government.

When Reid brings the claims against JPM, a case is brought in inequity, but JPM will use the US Government out card again, that JPM was asked by the US Government to sale bullion to China and to rig the bullion space, and hence, the KING, CIA, NSA and FED forced JPM to sale monstrous naked shorts and sell to China to in fact manipulate the markets to sustain the FRN and US military and monetary control over world affairs by the US Government.

JPM is in bed with the US Government with another OUT to manipulation of the Comex bullion paper price and to treasonously sell to China, so as to enslave the people of worlds by the US Government.

The FED is acting treasonous against the people of America but not the US government.

Bullion surfacing in the EU suggests that FDR 1933 confiscated gold is being released in the EU, suggesting the FED has been selling its gold hoards to sustain totalitarian control of the US Government.

The FED is lending, leasing, and selling GOLD hoards to JPM to go as much Naked short as JPM wants on the Comex to profit to make the FRN look better than the ponzi fraud that it is so as to sustain the totalitarians in the US Government.

JPM manipulates the paper price of bullion gold and silver on the Comex to create any technical analysis pattern JPM wishes with the overt blessings of the US Government.

Turd Federson, an expert in COT and TA analysis, has to eat his hat, as conventional COT and TA analysis is a thing of the past, when JPM can create any price pattern JPM wishes with TBTF TBTJ impunity from the US Attorney General of the US Government.

The US Government, including the NSA and CIA, through the FED banks and through the NY hoodies puts out a hit contract on REID. YIKES!

REID plays the trump card, and declares candidacy for US Presidency in 2016, to take down the totalitarians in DC, to destroy the FRN control means and switch IRS taxes to pay-and-forget consumption based sell taxes so as to end totalitarian controls by the US Government, and to get the FED NSA CIA to back off from the prospective hit contract on REID.

Its life or death, in Laguna Tuna Land, while Reid plays remote control toy cars with the boys, as REID is targeted by NY hoodies by the request of the US Government, YIKES!!

Its touch and go.

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USA Billionares, Duty Calls

Posted by Derrick Michael Reid on Friday, July 05, 2013 11:50:26 AM

It is time to rally the troops for the sake of the country, in one of its darkest hours.

With audacious MOPE, one thing should be clearly understood, there is no real interest by this author to sit idly by and wait for the bullion banks to be over run, as the country's ruination is at stake, here and now, and those stakes are just way to high, to just wait it out, at least for one, and can not in good conscience just wait. Action is required by those able. I am able. We must all rally to our standard of our cause, through activity, to save the country. The attack plan has been more or less completed, with 1000s hour spent, if not 13 years of eye balling, uselessly, as a first very rough draft is completed, and now turning to funding the same. My friends, you should know who is the target by now. The plan is believed immanently viable and is being reviewed by one of our own, 6m$ in 6mo from lift off, and the target will go down fast and hard, as victory and freedom is won for all, so help me GOD. Sing along my friends, sing along, its the least you can do for freedom. change "northern" to "Wall Street"; "Southern" to "Freedom" change "confederacy" to "Conflicted Nation"; and sing along my friends to the fight song. See YouTube The Bonnie Blue Flag - Gods and Generals.

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Do you want to stop the spread of socialism and all those who pander it? If so, do you know who, where, how and by whom to strike at the heart totalitarian socialism for immediate concrete results? If not, then I am your attack dog, who is seeking to do the same. Totalitarians enslave the people as tax mules or state dependents, by income taxes and printable paper money. Income tax changes are not politically feasible at this time. Printable paper money is vulnerable if the alternative real gold and silver money is freed from price manipulation. Real money use forces balance budgets and that is the route to stopping corrupting socialism and totalitarianism. I can end real money price manipulation and just need and am asking for a little help.

There is no reason we cant be civil.
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Problems: Greed, Socialism, Totalitarianism, Fraud, Immigration, Fascism, Electioneering, Greed, Socialism, Totalitarianism, Fraud, Immigration, Fascism, Electioneering, Greed, Socialism, Totalitarianism, Fraud, Immigration, Fascism, Electioneering, Greed, Socialism, Totalitarianism, Fraud, Immigration, Fascism, Electioneering, Government, Government, Government, Government, Government, Government, Government, Government, and More-Government, To-Much-Government, and Way-To-Much Government.
Solutions: Abolish all Federal Social Programs, Federal Pay-and-Forget Sales Tax Exclusivity, State In-Rem Property Tax Exclusivity, Real Gold and Silver Coinage Money Exclusivity, Pay Off All Federal and State Present and Future Obligations with 100T FRNs, State Social Safety Nets, Out Law Federal and State Bonds, Out Law Federal and State Debt, Out Law Federal and State Fiscal Deficits, Abolish Paper Money, Abolish Federal Reserve Notes, Redeem FRNs at more than $1,000,000.00 per gold ounce, Abolish the Federal Reserve Bank, Reward Productivity, Penalize Unproductivity, Free the People From Government, and Restore the Republic.

We can save the country.

We can liberate 250 million enslaved as tax mules and state dependents.

We can destroy the paper money bondage totalitarianism, right now.

We can free bullion from two decades of suppression, right now.

We can do it!

Jul 6, 2013 - 12:33pm

Thanks to CaLawyer!

Thanks to CALawyer for the article!

(Edit: Added comments after my original post - I hope that the hat tip wasn't premature for the person who tipped me)

The other night I wrote a story about the police state that has slowly appeared in California over the last 15 years.

Those 5150 holds are important because that is how psychotic people can be detained in a hospital emergency room against their consent. Patients with manic episodes and/or psychoses can not control their own thoughts. They end up unable to consent because they do not have the ability to process the information in their brain. So, they need to be held until the doctors can adjust their medications.

The 5150 holds require that a licensed physician certify that the patient is a danger to themselves or to others based upon a medical evaluation. When such occurs, the situation becomes dangerous to the medical team as well.

These holds revoke the individual citizen's rights based upon the presence of clearly expressed danger to others. They can hear voices (auditory hallucinations) or can see things (visual hallucinations). These are not people you want with firearms because these are people who require medication to function.

The obvious danger that CALawyer suggests in his piece is that these laws could be abused. Basically, a physician in California can revoke a person's rights if they observe psychoses or mania. If the doctor is wrong, then they can lose their medical license. On the other hand, if the doctor is corrupt and has corrupt friends, they can assert just about anything and get away with it. For this reason, corrupt medical groups are a huge danger to society.

In the case of Obamacare, a medical group could be corrupted easily because the system is collapsing competition in healthcare. Only certain sized health / medical insurers will survive in California. United Healthcare just withdrew from the individual market in California. A corrupt medical group would be getting state subsidy and therefore become more corrupt with time.

There will probably be only one or two major medical groups for all of California. Perhaps there will be a few small ones in rural areas that are not profitable for those large HMO's to service. However, the changes due to Obamacare are profound.

CA Lawyer discusses access by federal government to your healthcare records. If you thought the impact of IRS targetting, NSA snooping, and TSA groping was bad, wait until government knows what pill you need to survive.

You can kill people by not having the correct medications available.

I fear for the future of the nation and this state. You should too.

Jul 6, 2013 - 12:39pm

Interesting Article

Think about it for a moment: here is a bunch of amateurish hedge funds which has sold expecting lower silver prices and is now short of 133,000,000 ounces in an illiquid market, where the manufacturers cannot get enough physical at current prices.

Jul 6, 2013 - 12:48pm

Obamacare and the Great Reset

First, I want to send out a thank you to Xty and California Lawyer for excellent guest posts.

I don't believe Obamacare will still be around during most of our lifetimes. But that does not mean it will not create a ton of problems and violations of people's rights. I believe when the dollar finally crashes and America reaches the bottom, things like Obamacare will have to go away. We, as a nation, cannot keep ordering up things that we can't afford. That is simply a universal law. Social Security and Medicare are already inadequately funded and Obamacare simply adds to that problem. When the rest of the world quits buying our bonds, which they basically already have, and then quits accepting our printed out of thin air dollar for their goods, we won't be able to fund these entitlement programs. You can't tax a society more than 100%, although I'm sure many politicians will try. Eligibility ages will have to go up and programs will have to be cut back and others will die.

So what will the end look like? There will be rioting in the major cities, but I suspect most areas will remain somewhat calm. Suburbia and the county side will be spared, if only for the weapons that have been stockpiled. The U.S. may not manufacture anything, but we still produce enough food to feed our citizens. I am curious as to what Americans will choose to do without. Will we give up our our smartphones, eating out, game systems, vacations, satellite TV, 3 cars per household, 6 TVs per home, movies?

I suspect prices for subscription type items will be held somewhat in check. It doesn't cost Direct TV any more to broadcast to 50 million vs. 10 million, except for the fees paid to HBO etc. Prices for "luxury items" will be under tremendous pressure, but I suspect the prices of vehicles and goods manufactured overseas will go up drastically.

I think we will begin to once again see simpler times. When I was a kid, every Sunday our extended family (aunts, uncles, and cousins) would go to my grandma's house where everyone pitched in to pluck chickens (to be fried) and prepare a meal. In the summer we would have home made ice cream or water melon and light firecrackers on the 4th of July. I long for those days long since past.

I have two questions for Turdville on this 4th of July weekend.

1. What do you miss from the good ole days or 4th of July from your youth?

2. What do you think most of society will be giving up (unable to afford) when the dollar crashes and things stabilize?

Have a good weekend.

Katie Rose
Jul 6, 2013 - 12:53pm

Restraining Orders

Something I have not spoken about on the blog is that I have a Restraining Order in place against our former farm hand/ helper. The Order put in place by the judge requires that he not be within 2 miles of our farm or he is in violation of the Order. As I sat in the courtroom waiting to be called to testify, I heard testimony after testimony of women asking for Restraining Orders against men they loved or cared deeply about. I kept hearing a sentence which I will summarize: “My husband/ boyfriend became a monster after he was prescribed pain pills by his doctor. He became a different man after he started taking Oxycodone or Oxycontin. I don’t know this man anymore. He terrifies me! I’m not safe with him on these drugs.” That was what happened in my situation. A lazy MD prescribed Oxycodone, and the man became a monster. When the Restraining Order was put in place, the bailiff accompanied me to the woman who made it official. I don’t know her legal title. As we walked through the hall I asked the bailiff how many of the Restraining Orders were a result of these two prescription drugs. His response was chilling: “All of them. Nearly all of them. All day long we hear about what these pain pills are doing to men and their families. They are ruining our families and our men.” Our farmhand admitted himself voluntarily into a treatment center last week. He finally realized that his prescription pain pill addiction had cost him everything. It is so ironic that Medicaid pays for these pills, while denying any help for alternative therapies. Then the men become monsters and we pay to lock them up. When you hear Restraining Order, think Oxycodone or Oxycontin. Obamacare will pay for these drugs, then as they act out, take away their freedoms either by jailing them or denying them their Second Amendment Rights. As Baby Boomers age and our bodies become more riddled with pain, I am expecting more violence and family destruction due to these terrible drugs. If you or a loved one are prescribed these pain pills, I urge you to do all in your power to get off or get them off of them NOW! It took less than a year to totally alter his personality. He became a dangerous man. When he is out of treatment I will not be altering my Restraining Order. The addictive power of these pills is simply too strong. Hearing woman after woman testify was one of the most chilling experiences of my life.

Jul 6, 2013 - 12:57pm

People think Obamacare is a

People think Obamacare is a "socialist" healthcare program, it isn't, it's a corporate takeover of the healthcare system, behind the government. 

Who wrote Obamacare? Not Obama, not the Democrats (or Repubs), it was the healthcare corporate powers, the Chief writer was a J J executive.

When corporate interests takeover the government, this is what we end up with, is this any different than the Too Big To Fail banks?

Jul 6, 2013 - 1:24pm

we have...

an amazing demand for seen in the recent surge higher.... we have rates rising and NO demand for bonds(which looks to be entering a next wave of selling)..... Pay attention as the rats scramble from one market to another.....all orchestrated..... What will be the effects going forward....what is the desired outcome? Is it possible to put the bond genie back in the bottle at a desired time with growing demand for dollars? Who could possibly supply those dollars....and what effect will that supply have on other countries economies? Is a "Rinse & Repeat" possible? it were.

Strongsidejedi Katie Rose
Jul 6, 2013 - 1:36pm


@Katie Rose-

Thank you for sharing that information on Oxycontin and Oxycodone. I want to agree with what you are saying.

I also want to substantiate your comments by noting that public health experts can map the number of restraining orders per geographic area.

The public health sector is NOT being used to address these types of issues.

I recently met a person who was on a 5150 hold and had been prescribed innumerable mind altering drugs by her HMO in this area. The medication list was astonishing and included Ritalin (ADHD) (stimulants), multiple anti-depressants, multiple anti-anxiety medications. PLUS, she was given the controlled opiates you are discussing. She was a wreck DUE TO lazy physicians who never sat down and helped her get rid of these medications.

Her life was totally ruined by the HMO healthcare delivery system that supports this type of prescription by computer.

And, yes, you are correct about the mind-altering effects of pain medications. The brain is very delicate. You MUST EAT RIGHT to keep your brain functioning normally. If you do not eat correctly and instead fill on caffeine, high-fructose corn syrup, and trans fats; you will basically petrify your own brain. No amount of pain killing medications will help the brain of a person so damaged.

Instead, those pain killers alter the function and firing of the brain's cells (neurons) and you end up with a person who's personality and thinking process is permanently disabled.

I would add to your list of HMO medical abuses the management of ADHD and anxiety in our teens. I see so many of these HMO doctors that order by computer for their prescription renewals. I also have seen many families where the parents are literally crying about their children who are addicted to the amphetamines in the prescription drugs. When the child hits late teens and early 20's, the changes in the brain chemistry manifest to a much greater extent. It is those neurological and mental changes that CAUSE irrationality and psychoses in the 20 year olds. Ritalin and amphetamine derivative drugs are not a solution for these patients. But, for the parent needing a short-term fix in their ADD child's school years, the amphetamine is literally the "fix" they need. 

Do not believe that the Obamacare contracted HMO's will help you. The managers of those groups are only looking out for their own million dollar pension and retirement. They don't give a damn about your life or even their own employees!

Jul 6, 2013 - 1:38pm

5th amendment

Prosecutors are never allowed to use an exercise of the the right to remain silent against someone.

I heard a judge (former prosecutor) and current prosecutor discussing this case, and they said that, so long as the Defendant was not yet in custody, they had been using the silence of the Defendant in criminal cases for at least 20 years. IIRC, they cited some precedent for this view; I do not recall their argument for this view.

Gold Dog
Jul 6, 2013 - 1:40pm

Thanks Turdville Mouthpiece!

It occurs to me that the old Soviet Union used the mental health excuse to deal with political dissenters. They dissented ergo they were mentally ill.

Many of these poor people emerged greatly brain damaged from a combination of "Health Care" including drugs in massive quantities, electricity and general beatings until they were more "stable". I think they were single payer too.

On opiates- I have had approximately 10 knee surgeries*, all from skiing accidents and finally had a fake knee installed. Needless to say I have been through the whole gamut of dope. I still gobble about five Vicodins a week and probably will till I go on to my final reward. (Punishment?)

What I have discovered is that there is an amazing range of effects on different people from this stuff. Some people feel no effect, some get sick, some go total euphoria. I lucked out in that it cures my pain quite effectively and while it makes me dumber than usual I find the trade off worth it. I have never had a problem tapering off even the heaviest of dosages. <----I expected to feel a bit fluish each time I stepped down and did. Never enough to step back up, just a body withdrawal. I am quite fortunate.

I do have friends that ended up in drug rehab after going immediate junkie on the stuff after a month of usage.

On a brighter note, this weekend has more parties than any I remember since up, a pig roast at Cary and Dan's. (Does Obummer care cover liver transplants?)

Your friend,


* When you hit double digits over forty years you don't know if a good old scoping out even counts as an operation....hell, the pain only lasts six months!

PS- Don't forget-----Live Free or Die!!!!!

EDIT- RED ALERT- SEE BELOW!!!! Jedi says that I should be getting disability checks, my neurons are jacked! Where do I sign up? I promise I will only use the extra fiat to gamble with, unless I run into friends, then some of it may be used to gambol!

DeaconBenjamin zman
Jul 6, 2013 - 1:43pm

Who wrote Obamacare?

My sister, who is a supervisor with Kaiser Permanente, keeps telling me how much her employer loves Obamacare. I've been tempted to respond: no kidding -- they wrote it!

Jul 6, 2013 - 2:46pm


Not surprisingly, nicely done as usual.

@GL- Did you have something to do with this?

Chinese beach covered with green algae.

Safety Dan
Jul 6, 2013 - 2:47pm

Thanks Cailfornia Lawyer

Great article on our rights eroding away. Scares me to think what it will be like for our children's children. Hope the shiny stuff I've stacked isn't needed by them, but suspect it will be. Well, they can find it in the lake I had the boating accident, bet it will still be there.

Gold dog - you are a lucky man not to be addicted. I'm one of those recovering junkies from Vico, and other narcotic pain killers. I've been blessed to learn more about my own body and weaknesses. Party hard... while you can..

Mad5hatter - thank you for your posts. I, like so many others, enjoy Turdsville and the hard work Turd and others put in creating this site with great posts like yours. Please be considerate of Turd's request to keep the site out of jeapardy and infringing copyrights. A short paragraph and link will keep us all happy and informed.

From the land of sand in Afghanistan - safety dan. Thanks all - hope you had a nice 4th.

Jul 6, 2013 - 2:55pm

Everyone must really pay more attention.....

what was everyone screaming? It's not about the guns!!!!...... It's those CRAZY people !!!!!!! Remember? Also remember.......the NRA agreed......?????? SO......solution is about to be applied.... warning: we will have gun control by the end of the year. Joe Biden You better believe something big is coming.......I believe on multiple fronts. * the second has NO exceptions "shall not be infringed" THIS makes all gun laws unconstitutional. They say it does have exceptions.

maravich44 Safety Dan
Jul 6, 2013 - 3:01pm
Dyna mo hum
Jul 6, 2013 - 3:01pm

A video about the Rutherford Co. Tn. DUI check point has

already been posted here but here is a story that goes with it. The cops are really looking for large amounts of cash to $$$ to seize which is what most of these infringements are all about....................

Jul 6, 2013 - 3:07pm

Hear Hear!!

USA Should Rally to Libertarian-Green Banner

Posted by Derrick Michael Reid on Saturday, July 06, 2013 2:43:49 PM

My fellow Americans, I stand as a candidate of the unformed Libertarian-Green political party for the US Presidency in 2016, standing currently alone, undaunted but absolutely determined, as duty calls upon all patriots to stand stall at this time. There are so many of my countrymen disenchanted with current political stalemate gripping the country into stagnate and corruptive ruination. The Libertarian-Green offers solutions for all of you.

To the Tea Partiers, I feel your pain, I sense your disillusionment, as the tax burden upon your shoulders increases year by year, without let up, so as to enslave you under concentrated totalitarian DC rule as its tax mules. I seek to abolish the current tax code that is currently based upon income.

To the Wall Street Occupiers, I feel your pain, I sense your disillusionment, as the Wall Street Banksters' and Greedsters' tentacles reach far to pervasively corrupt governmental functions. I seek to destroy the TBTF TBTJ Wall Street Banksters and Greedsters.

To the Libertarians, I feel your pain, I sense your disillusionment, as governmental oppression of your freedom and liberties increases year by year. I seek to dramatically down size the federal government to restore our founding father freedoms from government.

To the Green Peacers, I feel your pain, I sense your disillusionment as our society over consumes natural resources of mother earth. I seek to install a pay-and-forget consumption sales tax where consumption is penalized and not rewarded, to conserve the resources of mother earth of this great nation.

To the Democrats, I feel your pain, I sense your disillusionment of the rightist agenda while being trapped for the rest of your lives, as are fifty million of my countrymen, now living in indignity and shame, on government hand outs. I seek to unleash our innate greed and charity duality in all of us for an economic explosion, thereby offering jobs to anyone willing to work and live proud again.

To the Republicans, I feel your pain, I sense your disillusionment with the leftist agenda ruining the country in totalitarianism, but merely being a slow drag thereon and failing to offer restoration of our founding father Republic, you are effectively a rightist partner to totalitarianism enslaving DC rule. I seek to restore the Republic with social services again vested in the many states as the states so choose.

To the Spiritualist, I feel your pain, I sense your disillusionment, but you can live in faith with tolerance, as Jesus has taught me to do as being apparently part of his live long plan bringing me here this day, and you can live and keep your faith in tolerance of nonspiritualists who only seek inherent freedom and liberty without condemnation.

To the Nonspiritualists, I feel you pain, I sense you disillusionment, as you feel condemned by the spiritualists, but through your respect of spiritualists who live with innate tolerance, you can live your lives as you deem fit in freedom and liberty.

I kindly ask all Libertarians, Green Peacers, Wall Street Occupiers, Republicans, Democrats, Spiritualists and Nonspiritualists, to rally to the new libertarian-Green Banner of inherent State Rights and liberty, to restore the Republic and our freedoms from government, to conserve mother earth resources, to destroy totalitarian concentration of political power in DC enslaving us all as tax mules or state dependents, to unleash economic growth so all can live in dignity, to destroy corrupt undue influences upon our great USA Government, to live in faith with tolerance, to live in liberty with respect, so that we all may live in freedom again, together as one, without destructive conflict, as our founding fathers sought for this great nation.

Hear Hear

Problems: Greed, Socialism, Totalitarianism, Fraud, Immigration, Fascism, Electioneering, Greed, Socialism, Totalitarianism, Fraud, Immigration, Fascism, Electioneering, Greed, Socialism, Totalitarianism, Fraud, Immigration, Fascism, Electioneering, Greed, Socialism, Totalitarianism, Fraud, Immigration, Fascism, Electioneering, Government, Government, Government, Government, Government, Government, Government, Government, and More-Government, To-Much-Government, and Way-To-Much Government.
Solutions: Abolish all Federal Social Programs, Federal Pay-and-Forget Sales Tax Exclusivity, State In-Rem Property Tax Exclusivity, Real Gold and Silver Coinage Money Exclusivity, Pay Off All Federal and State Present and Future Obligations with 100T FRNs, State Social Safety Nets, Out Law Federal and State Bonds, Out Law Federal and State Debt, Out Law Federal and State Fiscal Deficits, Abolish Paper Money, Abolish Federal Reserve Notes, Redeem FRNs at more than $1,000,000.00 per gold ounce, Abolish the Federal Reserve Bank, Reward Productivity, Penalize Unproductivity, Free the People From Government, and Restore the Republic.

Jul 6, 2013 - 3:16pm


just love the post, and you dude. Cal Esq is always good for free drink. :) Great writer and person, as well.

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Jul 6, 2013 - 3:24pm


Thank you Turd and many thanks to the guest posts. Tremendous and stimulating and from the heart.

California Lawyer. Your posts are one of the focal points I search for when I browse these blogs. I eagerly await hearing about the latest machinations of justice and government in San Berdoo. I was until recently an elected official not too far from your stomping grounds. There just cannot be too many optimistic conclusions to be had from the insanity we live in from either perspective, working the System or creating it.

To your post... Is there an action plan? Personally I have tried to keep doctor visits and insurance claims to an absolute minimum. Cash can certainly help to reduce the transmission of information to government and the insurance industry. What isn't written, isn't subject to the whims of a bureaucrat. Is there a mechanism to secure and remove health care information from the Cloud? Do we just let this all die the hopefully quiet death of an unaffordable, ill-conceived progressive nightmare? How do we fight?

RaRaRasputin Katie Rose
Jul 6, 2013 - 3:29pm

Katie Rose

I was stunned when I read your post. Your experience was awful but what really shocked me was the knowledge that Oxycodone and Oxycontin appear to be being prescribed so regularly in the US.

Here in the UK both of these drugs are known as 'controlled drugs'. That means because of their almost 100% opiate content they have to be prescribed and managed in a very specific way. Pharmacists have to keep them in a locked cabinet and stock in and out has to be checked by two people and signed for. Doctors have to have special training in prescribing and a special prescription pad that is audited. Abuse of and use of is very very closely monitored because of the serious nature of the drug and the potential for abuse either by professionals or risk of theft for street use. The laws were amended significantly here after the murders by the GP Dr Harold Shipman (

These drugs are usually reserved for the most serious pain issues and used mainly for terminal cancer pain, although it can be used post-operatively and in chronic pain. The BNF (British National Formulary) which I use as a nurse prescriber describes Oxycodone as ' having an efficacy and side-effect profile similar to that of morphine. It is used primarily for control of pain in palliative care'. It also states clearly that 'repeated administration may cause dependence and tolerance. Regular use of a potent opioid may be appropriate for certain cases of chronic non-malignant pain: treatment should be supervised by a specialist and the patient should be assessed at regular intervals' (BNF, March 2011).

The fact that these seem to be given out like smarties is truly horrendous and these people you spoke about, including your own personal experience, had basically become heroin addicts! As far as my experience these are the drug of last resort on the analgesic ladder with many other pain meds being tried first before these as these are hardcore and the side-effects and addiction risk high.

Stunned - truly stunned, and saddened :(

PS Great post Cali that prompted this exchange .....

Gold Dog
Jul 6, 2013 - 3:39pm

Safety Dan

I am very lucky in that I really don't like them much and limit their use to analgesic effect.

The dumber than usual part bugs me.

Stay strong,



Gold Dog
Jul 6, 2013 - 3:51pm

Random Thoughts From the Den

My wife and I took my mother on a cruise in the fall of 2009. We spent a few nights in Istanbul then hit various ports south of there including Ephesus, Rhodes, Haifa, Port Siad, Alexandria and one or two others ending up with several nights in Athens.

The "Arab Spring" was of interest, as was the unrest in Greece. We had stayed at the Royal Georges, (Beyonce was there too. A very cute pianist told us all about life on the road during breakfast.), just months before the riots started there. By and large things in Greece seemed fairly "normal" to us. We had nothing to use as a comparison so could not really tell. Of note- While touring the Parthenon a large kerfuffle erupted and we were told that a young man had run and leapt to his death off of the Acropolis over some political point that I never really understood but may have been an early sign that things were going sideways before we heard of it here in the States.

Egypt was interesting. Our cruise line, Royal Caribbean, which is pretty cheesy these days, had stopped making stops due to trouble with the locals. Egypt had promised a safer experience and they had promised better treatment of their guests so they had scheduled three trips that included Egypt as a try-out.

Port Siad is a city that was built primarily for retired members of the military. Kind of a dirty and poor "Villages". There was a large war memorial for those lost in the 1973 war. I repeatedly asked out tour guide, a nice Egyptian woman, what the war was about, she danced around the questions while various people on the tour bus cackled in the background.

This is where we took buses to see the sites in and around Cairo, primarily the Sphinx and the Great Pyramid. It was perhaps a 40 or 50 mile drive and at every single intersection for the entire distance there was an army man holding an AK-47. We were hectored mercilessly by the venders and hawkers at the pyramids but found a nice restaurant looking up at the Sphinx where we could take shelter for a snort.

On these cruise/sightseeing tours groups form based on the specific gravity of their members. We filtered through and ended up on bus five, which was occupied by the sort you normally avoid. This bunch held absolutely nothing sacred, (see 1973 war), and to my knowledge the cooler was never empty, even on the longest of days. Let's say we were a hail bunch well met and cracked wise often, which brings up the next snippet.

One of the highlights in Israel was to enter Palestinian controlled territory and visit Bethlehem. On the way back through the wall into Israeli territory bus 5, for some unknown reason having solely to due with the other people's behavior, was put into a different line and we had to go through the process that Palestinians go through on a daily basis to, for instance, get to work.

We were herded into a maze of chain link fencing while men from both sides looked down on us from catwalks holding automatic small arms. Even though there were about seven or eight lanes of "customs" agents they were calling people in at a rate of about one every five minutes. 

The Palestinians that were in line were dumbfounded by this new and exotic group and after about 30 minutes of cursing at the guards,(to their utter amazement, never having been dressed down in this fashion by the "cattle"), and generally raising hell the fifty or so of us from bus 5 were fished out and freed to go on our way.

(Do not piss off your Palestinian tour guide if you don't want special treatment!)

Needless to say we have been watching the developments over these last few years with a little more interest having visited many of the centers of unrest just prior to the unfolding of these events.

I have just been informed that a group of my nephews....think Bruins "Hulk Line" .....are arriving from out of town this evening to spend the night, so I have to go get about sixty pounds of raw meat and a couple of kegs to keep them from turning on their hosts. This will be AFTER they have picked an entire whole pig to the bone and have drunken poor Dan dry!

Your friend,


Jul 6, 2013 - 4:16pm

Tremendous post Cal Law

Outstanding work, thank you for contributing this! It never ceases to amaze me how many different perspectives and areas of expertise are brought to bear on the issues at hand here in Turdville. Amazing, too, how many data points indicate beyond question how concerned we should all be about the direction things are going- everything from legal developments to economics to health to markets, let alone politics and society at large. 

Jul 6, 2013 - 4:19pm

But wait a second...

I thought that this idea was only being put forth by the lunatic fringe and hopelessly inept, anonymous bloggers:

maravich44 Gold Dog
Jul 6, 2013 - 4:19pm
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