Digging The Ditch

Mon, Apr 8, 2013 - 12:12pm

Isn't it great? In the world of leverage, rehypothecation and malfeasance, it's like Friday never happened. That lousy BLSBS, the crappy participation rate, all of it...never happened. Our blissful, fiat utopia chugs forward. For a few more days, at least.

I don't even know where to start on this fine Monday. The Yen? North Korea? 6,000,000 ounces of "silver" withdrawn from the SLV? Heck, let's just dive right in.

Here's a logical starting point. Santa's old pal, Yra Harris, has his own site and has written this insightful piece about the Japanese mega-QE. (Suddenly, I have this image in my head of an old, Japanese Godzilla movie with an horrific English overdub where Godzilla is a big, gansta-looking T-Rex with a big golden QE chain around it's neck, stomping on a senior living center filled with octogenarian Japs. Maybe Pining can cook this up for us?) Anyway, back to Yra's article. Read this now: https://yragharris.com/2013/04/07/billyjoel/

So, if Yra's right and, frankly, why wouldn't he be...Global bond yields are about to plummet and other currencies, particularly the euro, are about to rally. Thus, here are two charts of the euro. Keep in mind that, in general, rising euro = falling dollar = happy metals.

And there sure is plenty of disinformation out there, attempting to get you to sell your metal. One of my favorites is the continued "interest rates are rising" theme. Really? And which rates are those?? Here's a chart of the U.S. Long (30-year) Bond. Uhhh...rates rising? Not so much.

Speaking of disinformation...What's with all of the recent preponderance of worry and articles over confiscation? Why now? The metals bull market is over, right? We're all supposed to be selling our hard assets and safely moving back into paper, right? So, why all of the talk about confiscation? To me, it's just more disinfo, aimed at getting you to sell. Anyone spouting confiscation fear at the present time should be put on your "Disinfo Agent/Paid Troll List" and watched very closely in the future.

One guy who I know IS NOT a disinfo agent is Alasdair Macleod at GoldMoney. Here's his latest. You should read it. https://www.goldmoney.com/gold-research/alasdair-macleod/gold-price-suppression-the-game-goes-on.html

And here's some more Jackass for you, from the Greg Hunter website. It's worth a listen but I've already informed Jim that there's no way I'm going to follow suit and begin referring to him as "Dr. Willie". Maybe "Dr. Jackass" but not "Dr Willie"...unless, of course, I turn this into the TF Urology Report.

Large Widespread Cutoff of Supply Chains Coming-Jim Willie

And I've got this stray crude chart laying around this morning. As you know, we've been following along as it rallied to $98, then fell to $89 and then rallied back to $97. Well, check this out. I've not seen this anywhere before. Maybe it's something we need to keep an eye on going forward.

Finally, you're probably wondering about the title of this thread. Does it have any deeper meaning? Why, yes it does as a matter of fact. I announced in the comments of the Saturday thread that I had a new theme song. It's off of the new CD from the great Bruno Mars. The title is "Natalie" but when I hear it, instead of the three syllables of Nat-a-lie, I think "Blythe Mas-ters". Now, of course I realize that our old nemesis, The Wicked Witch, has moved on to greener pastures within The Morgue. Regardless, she's the one who put her face on CNBS a year ago and proudly proclaimed that JPM is "simply helping their clients" and that their positions are "fully hedged". Oh, really? Hmmm. Well, as President O'Bottom likes to say, the project is "shovel-ready". I hope to break ground by late next week.

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(And please, this is all metaphorical and figurative. I'm not threatening anyone with physical harm. Just like how Bruno isn't out there hunting down some ex-girlfriend named Natalie. It's just a song...and a darn good one, at that!)

OK, that's all for today. Remain calm and keep stacking.


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Apr 8, 2013 - 8:37pm

Great expressions all-round, in this pic...

Great expressions! She really showed them, told them, whatever............

Is that a thumbs up from Putin? Seems like a new experience for many in the room.

Apr 8, 2013 - 8:39pm

The miners are victorious in the end!

(USA/Canada-types won't get this, so don't panic)

AgAuthaChristie Mr. Fix
Apr 8, 2013 - 8:45pm

@ Mr Fix regarding "Killing the dollar"

The administration official who spoke to Mr Bass clearly meant they intended to reduce the value of the dollar ie "kill it". He did not mean "kill it" as in make it no more/ destroy it. Why is this so hard to understand? Do you really think that if they actually intended to completely destroy the currency and usher in a new one that senior officials would just casually mention this while chatting with well known hedge fund managers? Thats just ridiculous! If in fact actually killing the dollar was their plan they sure the f**k wouldnt tell Kyle Bass!

Apr 8, 2013 - 8:53pm

Apple Shortages??? How much silver in a single Cruise Missile?

Note each cruise missile contains approx. 15kg of silver in wiring, contacts, solder and batteries.

1 Kilogram = 32.1507466 Troy Ounces

32 x 15kg = 480 oz of silver. That's about 32 pounds of silver as 1000 oz of silver equals about 64 pounds of silver.

There's only 1.1 Billion Oz of Silver above ground for use, not counting what China may or may not have and will never be put on the market.

It seems to me that the Defense Dep't should be buying silver hand over fist and that's just for Cruise Missiles.

How many other missiles and weapons that use Silver in the DOD arsenal are running out of available silver? We won't know or ever know. It's a SECRET.

And why wouldn't it be. There's not enough Silver to meet DOD demand. That's why the US Mint is going to stop minting ASE's in the next coming months. It will be for "National Security" reasons, that is, there isn't enough to produce Cruise Missiles and other armaments that use Silver.

This simply pales in comparison to the temporary Apple shortage.

The DOD and its contractors is ramping up its Silver purchases as much as it can at these absurdly low prices. This has all been "managed" via the paper market. This is what has created a "blood in the streets" PM and Miner market.

This has National Security issue all over it.

1.1 Billion of Silver left above ground and the same with gold.

Yet there is a more than a 1 to 50 price differential in the price of Silver to Gold. How much Gold does the DOD need. Nothing really. How much Silver do they need?

50 Ounces per missile. And that's just one missile!!!!!!!!!!

Conclusion: What's more valuable to the DOD. Gold or Silver?????

I would say Silver by a long shot.

I forgot to mention all the other countries that make Missiles with Silver at 50 oz. per missile.

Print this Silver Doctors.


Apr 8, 2013 - 8:57pm

@Green Lantern SPP, TPP, and Working Groups

In 2006 there was a bill that had to go through the Senate, sorry can't remember the bill number, to pay for Mexican oil expansion using PEMEX funded with 125 billion US tax Dollars, 25 billion coming from Canadian taxpayers and the rest of the money coming from private investors, totalling 300 billion dollars. The bill did not pass but it was very close...like last minute close.

After following this article and reading everything downloadable in pdf, I came to the conclusion that there is a seperate government beneath the government. If you really want to FALL DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE start with WORKING GROUPS they are primarily setting policy and agendas for the NWO/CFR/TLC, in ALL countries. Yes, this is a worldwide problem and work out of the purview of all government regulators, no matter the government.

After Calderon had the US government come in and officially STEAL the 2006 Mexican election for him, the world became much more clear.

If I were a person with better typing skills and was quicker I could probably fill this entire page with what I know. Personally, I wish everything would collapse and reset after seeing what had happened after Calderon stripped the Mexican people of their benefits by "Readjusting" the Mexican Constitution to allow for the Oil exploration and expansion.

After spending 4 1/2 months doing research on all this, there was NOT ONE media outlet wanting the information, 3 weeks of trying to flog the article and it was a waste of time trying to inform anyone using the media.

Really... no one wants to know, and if they do they must be insane or a crackpot.

القراع عصفور
Apr 8, 2013 - 8:57pm

Mr. Fix

you really gotta start considering your sources for da news.

victori Green Lantern
Apr 8, 2013 - 9:01pm

The Sprott Foundation

My understanding is that the Sprott foundation is a charity organization (funded and run by Eric Sprott's family), not a hedge fund, therefore the selling cannot be explained by redemptions. https://www.sprottfoundation.com/ Last time I looked, the premium on PSLV was at an all time low (below 1%) so it cannot be explained as an arbitrage play either. The sale was of about 3.2 million shares which represent roughly 62.5% of the Sprott Foundation's total holdings prior to the sale. I am not making any judgement regarding what motivated this sale but am curious to know what it's all about.

Apr 8, 2013 - 9:05pm

@Green Lantern

Re: Trans Pacific Partnership

Really glad I moved to New Zealand to escape all this nonsense. *Facepalm*

Obama seems to be chasing me whereever I go! Someone make it stop!


Mr. Fix
Apr 8, 2013 - 9:06pm

@ AgAuthaChristie ........Did you read the rest of it?

Here is a little bit more, they're not talking simple devaluation, they're clearly talking DEATH.

There it is, the entire agenda in one short sentence. It explains everything we’ve been seeing domestically and globally. That one statement makes every other question irrelevant, or otherwise answers all economic questions and explains everything. Nothing else matters. I urge you to ponder that statement and all that it implies. Doing so will provide you with the clarity to understand not only what is taking place today, but what is yet to come.

Murder & High Treason

It is important to note the specificity of the word “kill.” Stated in the active voice, it means an unambiguously intentional and deliberate act. The murder of our national currency, the United States Dollar (USD), is the ultimate agenda to be implemented under Obama. To “kill” our national currency will subvert the United States and destroy it from within. This begs a number of questions, including what type of Americans would actually have, as their objective, the destruction of our national currency? To whom do they hold their allegiance, if not to the American people whose life’s work as well as the toil of our ancestors is represented in the form of wealth held in U.S. dollars? Does this make any sense to us, as Americans? The answer of course is “no.”

By its very definition, to kill our national currency is an act of high treason by those engaged in this activity. It undermines the very sovereignty and survival of our nation, and will have a life-changing impact on every citizen in the U.S. It will also impact every nation and the people of every nation on the planet, as the USD is presently the world’s reserve currency. It is an act that should result in the filing of criminal charges against the conspirators, a trial of their peers and if convicted, a death sentence. It’s that serious.

I went to a lot of trouble, to find this link.

Please use it:


there is a lot more to this story, and yes, it explains everything.

Once you accept the premise, all whole bunch of stuff starts to make sense.

Apr 8, 2013 - 9:07pm

@Bollocks Don't underestimate Canadians

If all was right with the world she would have died from a strike in the 1980's.

Apr 8, 2013 - 9:12pm

till it aint

Sec of States again with right-on posts and info rush.

The dollar is king, until it aint. Collaspe can be swift. So, I disagree with your assessment of the FRN. We dont seek replacement of the US as king of economies though failure could be a rapid game changer. We see an end of the paper used, the freedom therefrom, and in markets and politics that may occur within our life time, which to some, in the scheme of mankind, might not be that long.

HOPIUM RULES!!!! GO BEN GO!!!! kill the screws out of it.

but be prepared though, keep stacking ....


How will a post Assad Syria be a game-changer for the U.S. and regional players?

I'll bite. The global confluence is seen constantly, though at times, in very small imperceptable steps, to great leaps. Who ever the rebels are, they add another voice, good or bad, but nonetheless another party at the table. It is this injection, breaking the stalemate that adds opportunities, not necessarily one step back or two steps forwards, for mankind.

Apr 8, 2013 - 9:14pm

Ditch digging

Ain't no bank going to hold my shiny down

Ditch Digging
Apr 8, 2013 - 9:18pm
Apr 8, 2013 - 9:18pm

victori:  Where did you get

victori: Where did you get this news? I would like to see more details.

Apr 8, 2013 - 9:21pm

DOD Silver Shortage.

Re: If you think Apple had shortages, think about how much the DOD is having them!!! Shhh!! It's Secret. The question remains is where can the DOD or its Contractors purchase its ever more need and demand of real physical Silver?

It's not in the paper markets. That's for sure.

This paper charade can only be kept up for another month or so at least.

The demand from the Silver smelters are going to overwhelm the supply soon with the NK threats. DOD will want to ramp up immediately all sorts of armaments, just in case. That's what they do best.

Combine that with the COT shorts, this has the makings of the mother of all short squeezes.



kingboo jonathanmarktaylor
Apr 8, 2013 - 9:21pm

Hey Jonathon

how bout we just ban you?? Since you obviously feel the 1st amendment is irrelevant....it's clear you wont really fit in here anyhow........ chew on that....

AgAuthaChristie Mr. Fix
Apr 8, 2013 - 9:24pm

@ Mr Fix

Please. These Asshats are taking a figure of speech used in a conversation between an administration official and someone who is not affiliated with the Govt. and behaving as if it was meant literally. It simply strains credulity to the breaking point to think that if an Admin official was part of a plan to destroy the dollar that he would just casually mention this fact to someone who had nothing to do with the plan and might be assumed to object strenuously or at least tell others.

If the secretary of the Interior was talking to someone about the problems associated with expected global warming in the coming decade and that person just in passing mentioned how hot it was that day and in response the Secretary said, 'you should have been out on the mississippi yesterday, it was boiling". It is not acceptable to shout, "holy sh*t, Global warming out of control! Secretary of Interior admits Mississippi so hot it is boiling in places".

The people who are freaking out about this "killing" the dollar thing are either dishonestly or just plain stupidly taking Kyle bass's words and twisting them around to mean something that was not intended to be meant

We may lose the Dollar anyway, but this administration official was NOT confessing to this crime.

silver66 AgAuthaChristie
Apr 8, 2013 - 9:34pm

Kyle Bass- killing the dollar

I watched the video where Kyle Bass relayed this encounter. He said it was clear they were going to "kill the dollar", not the official said they were going to kill the dollar.

He then discussed which investments would do well in this environment.

Now this is based on my recollection and could be wrong so DYODD


Apr 8, 2013 - 9:40pm


The information comes from the following website: https://www.sedi.ca/sedi/SVTAccessPublicFiling?menukey=15.00.00&gx_sessi... Click "view summery reports" Choose "Insider transaction detail" Select "issuer name" and fill "Sprott Physical silver trust" Select "date of transaction" and fill from March 1st till April 8th. I tried to post a direct link to the report but that website doesn't allow it.

Apr 8, 2013 - 9:46pm


Extremely ironic. Must be from The Grauniad right?

Texas Sandman
Apr 8, 2013 - 9:46pm

Time to man up

Put on your big boy pants & start buying up 100 oz bars. ASEs sold out. 90% sold out.

Time to hit the bastards in the EE where they live.

Texas Sandman
Apr 8, 2013 - 9:48pm

Killing the dollar

Just a mercy killing anyway. Lost 95% of its value since the federal reserve started. Shadow of its former self.

Bring on Dr. Kevorkian.

Apr 8, 2013 - 9:50pm

@Ballyale_Cruise Missliles

"I would say Silver by a long shot". Pun intended? ;-)

Apr 8, 2013 - 9:50pm

Silver is or should be more valualbel than gold.

Why not. Gold is hardly use. Silver is consumed in vast quantities in many usages.
50 oz. per a single missile. How many usages are being developed every year?

This paper market is going to break anytime now. I believe that the DOD, in conjunction with the Treas. and the Fed have done their best at suppress the Precious Metal for 2 years.

There's not enough Silve left to suppress in terms of price. There is a 1:1 ratio
of silver to gold. Silver is consumed. Eventually, there will be less silver available than gold.

Think about that for a moment. Less Silver than Gold. Which metal will be more

Think also, if there is a Global depression, how much Silver will be extracted as
a byproduct of Copper? China is already filled to the brim with copper.

Silver production as a byproduct of Copper mining could below 20% of today's amounts.

This is exactly when more and more silver is needed to meet DOD, Medical, Investment and other types of demands.

Conclusion: I think that the DOD in conjunction with the Fed and the Treas. with JPM, which now holds 96% of the Commercial Shorts, illegally, have been the reason for this illegal suppression of Silver prices.

It's the DOD that is at the center of it. With sequestation, the DOD doesn't have
the money to get as much as they want or need. Thus, they have to beat down the paper price in order to obtain the minimum of their supposed needs.

Conclusion #2: It can last only so long. It has lasted more than 2 years. The NK BS will break the DOD Camel's back. The greedy DOD will rachet up the demand until the smelters can't provide enough. At that point Silver prices will start to soar.



Apr 8, 2013 - 9:50pm

@ Mr Fix

I think it is clear the administration official was saying they intended to devalue the dollar. This is in response to K Bass's concern that there is no way in hell they can pay for all the things they are claiming they will be able to pay for. This seems to be the assumption all around. Reduce the value of the dollar and those pesky debts dont look so overwhelming. Will it work? I don't know. I doubt it. is this what was meant by "killing" the dollar? Yes, it was.

People don't confess to grand nefarious schemes just in passing. They don't do it. Look at all the effort they are going to to make the economy seem like its doing ok. Why would they blow all that hard work by admitting, "Yeah, the dollars toast. We are So screwed. "

That_1_Guy Lamenting Laverne
Apr 8, 2013 - 9:50pm

@ Lamenting_Laver, thoughts and thanks.

First off.

Thanks for the response man. I really appreciate you taking the time.

I was trying to explain the US and global banking tie to my Canadian friend, hes under the impression that bubble gum and band aids are the solution to fixing this thing globally. He doesnt get why this should bother him. I told him just to look at page 145 of the 2013 canadian budget. I explained the US derivatives market exposure, 228 trillion in derivatives exposure and less than 10T in deposits angle didn't have much effect on him proclaiming that the Sweden Solution was the best for Canada. They have tons of gold and so do we in the US and we could just creat our own gold backed currency. Shooting gold, god only knows, how high. Then he told me how if we stupid Americans would just take some personal responsibility this mess wouldn't have happened. I told him that the goal is to put the people at odds while the real culprits hide out. He seems determined to fix it. I told him this things beyond totaled and there is no averting collapse, because the crash already happened long ago.

I agree Cyprus is the model. I think that anyone with a brain should keep their wealth within arms reach. This isn't going away, isn't getting any better (its getting worse) and its rapidly accelerating. Some people don't want to accept that. I have been talking with this guy for a long time...he sees the problem now he just falsely hopes that there is a reasonable solution to this all and that the Canadian Government is the white knight riding to save the day. I was like, they arent your parents man..they have their own self interest at hand, not yours. What is it with this Canadians (some) and their shit don't stink attitude...confusing.

Conclusion of the conversation was, that there are 2 likely potential outcomes.

1) These power and money junkies keep robbing for their addiction. They are addicts and will take deposits just as some black swan event happens, the people beg to save the banks and are scared, they give up more and more of their financial liberty for safety and shoulder the debt. Becoming ultimate debt slaves. Solidifying the EE in the drivers seat of the new paradigm of uber fiat. Ultimately leading to the people running faster and faster for the EE, just to say in place. Red Queen.

2) The people expose the real culprit, en masse it is accepted and uncollateralized paper is shunned/the money changers are shunned. I am not religious, but well versed in many religions. Jesus was pretty violent towards money changers who were shaving coins/rigging scales to rob the value out of people through monetary debasement. Money is something real that you exchange your life for. They are robbing your life. People can accept / can get that when theres nothing of real value, that cant be faked behind the currency, the paper is an empty promise and nothing more. They used to draw and quarter people for debasing currency throughout a good chunk of history. WE need something of real value to put behind the money....I know the dollar is dead and theres no going back in time to fix this literally, but the lessons of real history will show us the path back to reality. Though it might not be comfortable and there will be a lot of violence, death and terror, this choice leads back to reality. The violence, death and terror happen in both scenarios, either way. Both preceded by a black swan event.

The reason why i like silver over gold is that the EE have all the gold, a gold standard would just prop them back up into power and the game would start again. Silver is the peoples metal. Id like to thing we can build this better if we expose the vampires for what they are and say never again. Becoming your own central bank and safety net with community and provisions...is the easiest path through this whole bs. Even then there are some things just out of our control. So whether its the Swedish solution or Iceland solution many people are gonna suffer.

I wish there was just a easy reset button and we could start over...but this is going to be a hard reset.

Its all pretty sobering..this is just my opinion.

Im gonna stack some more.

Thanks for taking the time to read my thoughts.


Apr 8, 2013 - 9:51pm

Hate to pop bubbles

DMorgan, and many others taut, the awesome benefits of Ag, but Cu can be and is used as a substitute, if properly worst cased. I personally worked on ALCUM-MALCUM cruise missiles in the 70s, and saw SEM inventions this century were CU was used for heat transport. I means, how many times or how long, do you have to fly a cruise, before its Cu fails?

Solar panels, given today tech, solar panels!!!


three posts down: its called graceful degradation, 110 years running, until finally dist, when, donno.


where can the DOD or its Contractors purchase its ever more need and demand of real physical Silver?

A better question, is where we going to find the engineers for the redesigns and upgrades to match resource availability.


Pantrancus above, got ticked off just watching the ditch digger, thanks, good night to you as well.

Mr. Fix
Apr 8, 2013 - 9:53pm

@ AgAuthaChristie

We have all heard the saying“Every Fiat currency in the history of the world has reverted to its true intrinsic value, which is zero”.

This is not exactly breaking news, everyone knows that the dollar is toast. Why would it be so bizarre to have an administration official acknowledge that?

Besides, I do not assign a high level of intelligence to the cabinet members here. They may not even realize the ramifications of their policies, the cabinet level bureaucrat is not the person that thinks this stuff up, and they probably sometimes get mixed up what they are supposed to say, and what they are not supposed to say.

Now, in the context of what is actually happening, and what they are actually preparing for, it is clear that the death of the dollar will be involved.

I do not even need the acknowledgement of our current administration to draw that conclusion.

Dr. Willie seems to have a fairly good grasp of what is about to happen. His doctorate in statistical analysis probably comes in handy, especially when you realize just how badly the numbers do not add up.

Then you have to take all of these statistics, analyze them, and draw a few conclusions on your own, combined with a few “sources”.

So even without a cabinet member screwup, it is still easy to conclude what the agenda is.

And then there is this:

Does anyone else remember a chief of staff being quoted as stating “never let a crisis go to waste”? It's how these people think . A dollar collapse is the ultimate crisis. It will be used for the ultimate power grab.

The dollar is toast.

Anyone who does not prepare accordingly is risking their life, and the lives of those entrusted to them.

R man J
Apr 8, 2013 - 9:57pm

Roubini, Rickards& Reggie Middleton on Twittter conversing

Roubini: gold simply is inverse to dollar

Rickards: gold sideways for 2013 due to dollar strength but dollar tanks in 2014 and gold goes way up. Then Reggie asks Rickards, "what about the Euro?" I am thinking I will learn something here.

Southern Cross
Apr 8, 2013 - 9:59pm

US to be a "Nation State"

Declaration of Interdependence -

If you have any doubt our leadership is quietly plotting degrading our nation to a "nation state" status of a UN backed one world gov., google and read the Declaration of Interdependence signed US traitors, congress and senators, in 1975. Read between the lines and you have the US as a nation state. This is the goal. We are to be sold and enslaved to a one gov., currency, military, and religion. How long it takes depends upon how quick you and every other American can be converted to accept it through force feeding or welfare. I challenge everyone to read this document and read it carefully. It's another important doc. stating openly what is going to happen. Many Washington politicians behind the curtain are on board. They plan to lead the charge and thereby hope to play an important role in a new UN one world gov. to personally benefit their families. You are to be the slave. This is a founding document for future America.

Declaration of Interdependence drafted by historian Henry Steele Commager, which like Jefferson’s manifesto was adopted in Philadelphia 199 years after the Declaration of Independence by the World Affairs Council of Philadelphia. It was endorsed by 125 members of Congress the following January.

The World Affairs Council of Philadelphia, 1975

When in the course of history the threat of extinction confronts (hu)mankind, it
is necessary for the people of the United States to declare their
interdependence with the people of all nations and to embrace those
principles and build those institutions which will enable mankind to survive
and civilization to flourish...........

Below is a link to the whole document.



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