Wrapping Up

Sat, Jul 21, 2012 - 12:23pm

The Turd is wrapping up his relaxation extravaganza this weekend and he'll be back at his post bright and early on Monday. Until then, here's some stuff for the weekend.

First of all, some charts. Let's start with the metals. Both have flat-lined, which is interesting because a flat-line usually precedes some type of dramatic move, either up or down. We see this sometimes on the short-term charts. We rarely see this play out over days on the hourly charts but here we are. My personal feeling is that we are very close to a significant break OUT and UP. We'll go into more detail on this on Monday.

And you should probably listen to this:

EXCLUSIVE- Bill Murphy's London Source: "Big Gold & Silver Moves Coming in August"

And the grains are, quite literally, ON FIRE. Though they are susceptible to a sharp pullback here, the forecast isn't getting any better. And it's still July. Yikes. Here's the latest forecast for Kansas City, Missouri. Right in the middle of corn and soybean country.

And here are your weekly charts showing new all-time highs in both corn and beans. The DAG, which we first discussed here a few weeks ago near $9, is closing in on $15, too.

The latest CoT was kind of a bummer. For the reporting week, gold rose $9 and silver rose 44c. In the face of that, The Gold Cartel added over 6000 new net shorts and The Evil Empire added just over 1000 new net short in silver. Not a disaster but not real encouraging, either. The only positive in the report is in the LargeSpecShortSheep category for silver where the LSSS added another 1,123 gross shorts. This brings their total up to over 20,000 at 20,775 and lowers the LargeSpec net long ratio to just 1.37:1. Again, for perspective, on 4/5/11, the LargeSpec net long ratio was 4.04:1 based upon 48,890 longs and just 12,105 shorts.

Three items of reading material for you. First, this interesting piece from John Aziz. It's worth considering. https://azizonomics.com/2012/07/21/why-is-the-fed-not-printing-like-crazy/

Next, Detlev Schlichter has written another excellent article: https://papermoneycollapse.com/2012/07/happy-interventionists-the-economists-attack-on-your-property/

And, finally, some interesting perspective from KWN's "London Trader". Note that there are no price targets or forecasts. Just a simple and concise analysis of demand fundamentals. https://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2012/7/20_London_Trader_-_The_LBMA_Gold_Price_Fixing_Scheme_Is_Over.html

OK, that's all for now. I hope everyone has a safe and relaxing weekend and I look forward to getting back to "business as usual" on Monday.


p.s. When I return, I expect the "Main St" thread comments to return to "normal", too. Main Street is where we discuss the metals, the economy and issues dealing with the end of The Great Keynesian Experiment. It is not the place for subjects like Zionist conspiracies and Chemtrails. All are certainly welcome to discuss those items here but it needs to be done in the forums. https://www.tfmetalsreport.com/forums/conspiracy-theories. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

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Jul 22, 2012 - 11:30am

Riddle me this....

...everyone agrees that the PMs are due a dramatic move soon. What baffles me is the assumption that it must be a massive move up. The two biggest PM positive indicators for me are QE from America and strength of the Euro, and I would say both are now pointing heavily in the red and will be more so come August.

Might not the breakout be the other way, irrespective of the usual behavior of falling wedges?

Jul 22, 2012 - 11:34am

Straying away..in the future.

Straying away..in the future. I have a problem that to understand small question ( how to manage PM holdings/preparations) I have to see the big picture first, and it then suddenly turns into VERY big picture. In that sense, its metals related, so belong here:)

I think world wide empire building will definitely require a world wide war. In the end, between the last 2 Empires- USA and Chinese. Even if there is elite agreeing on goals, none of them would agree on hierarchy which would exclude/lower their position. However, to be effective, the Empire must have one global government and one global leader ...a council that we see in the UN is not effective in managing. It grows the complexity with diminishing returns globally ( of course, it gives something to the richest/West, but for 1 world government, there is no reason to artificially complicate issues of resource distribution when it can be done more effectively, faster and cheaper).

The complexity of keeping the empire in order will increase dramatically, both in terms of interior ministery ( all armies will be turned into interior police) and legitimacy (that costs as well, ideology and propaganda), but obviously that is the only way so hope is, the resource pooling/free movement will pay for it at least with constant marginal return, if not increasing initially-and hope that pooling research could lead to new energy source before the empire starts to collapse. That is not guaranteed, as in such empire some of competitive challenges that drives research will be replaced solely by research in the direction of control of masses/population while keeping them productive.

As to conspiracies, what I tried to say, is, that the essence of this civilization and ways to continue it at current or higher level of complexity ( government, welfare) may be understood intuitively, put in different ways, but leading to similar actions by many people on this planet, and , as i said , this understanding has become their moral though from what I now think that is immoral from most moral standards developed during the increasing marginal return period of this civilization ( early industrialization), when wealth accumulated in some countries, or increasing access to resources/territories allowed for ideologies to be embedded in masses that e.g. thought that stealing/begging is bad, deceit is bad etc. People seem to like these higher ideologies that are impractical in the sense of continuing the current civilization from this stage as it has reached the exhaustion of current system. Perhaps such blanket is necessary for people to be able to accept /escape the truth. I do not think that Afghan warlords could survive if they were adhering to such moral standards.

So the conspirators are people who understand the truth of how our current civilization can survive longer without qualms (?), but they are not all united or following one written script, and still there is ongoing fight between them, though it seems it is somewhat lessening , but may increase once the final push comes closer.

QE to infinity
Jul 22, 2012 - 11:36am


Thanks for reply about open pit/underground mining, I appreciate it.

Jul 22, 2012 - 11:39am

Silver city

Something completely different: https://www.kutnahoratours.com/: an old Chech silver city !

That's where i will go in a few weeks, on holidays.

Looking forward to the sight seeing, and (hopefully the misses isn't watching this) some purchases.

Short Stack tpbeta
Jul 22, 2012 - 12:14pm


...everyone agrees that the PMs are due a dramatic move soon. What baffles me is the assumption that it must be a massive move up. The two biggest PM positive indicators for me are QE from America and strength of the Euro, and I would say both are now pointing heavily in the red and will be more so come August.

When major currencies like the dollar, Euro and British pound go down precious metals tend to go up. Right now the Pound is tanking, people are suspicious of the Euro's strength and the dollar, well....give it another month or two.

In the mean time, stack, Stack, STACK.

Landowner Terp
Jul 22, 2012 - 12:22pm

Careful on Feeder Cattle

With the drought affecting feedcrops, farmers are dipping into winter feed stores to keep their animals fed as they figure out the situation. There will likely be a sell-off of cattle to reduce feed requirements going forward that will drop the prices a fair bit.... might want to avoid the cows...


tpbeta Short Stack
Jul 22, 2012 - 12:24pm

@Short Stack

With all due respect what you say cannot be true. These currencies fluctuate primarily against each other. When the Euro drops, the Dollar goes up, and vice versa.

Jul 22, 2012 - 12:27pm

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Jul 22, 2012 - 12:44pm

Cattle - re: Landowner

A good point for the feeder cattle being cheap right now – thanks Landowner.

So thinking 6 months / 1 year ahead – with a sell-off this year = lower supply next year. What do you think?

I’m definitely avoiding them right now, but keeping an eye on them. I think next year they could be worth something.

There was a run-up in grain prices about two years ago too, and they did the same thing – sold cattle because they couldn’t afford to feed them. Flooded the market. I don’t remember what happened 6 months / year after that, I’ll have to go back and look.

Nick Elway Gramp
Jul 22, 2012 - 12:44pm

"Cancer justifies itself,

"Cancer justifies itself, doesn't it?
Cancer, if you ask Cancer whether or not it was Cancer it would say 'No, I am doing God's work!'" Max Keiser July 19, 2012 7:30 GMT

Thanks Gramp!! The cancer quote was 4 min 20 sec into the Keiser video


Goldman Sachs Blankfein "doing God's Work" in 2009


Original quote if I had a subscription:


Jul 22, 2012 - 12:55pm


I know several, otherwise-intelligent people who think that HAARP is used to "weaponize" the weather, climate and geology. Personally, I think this is bat shit crazy but wtf do I know?

Jul 22, 2012 - 1:01pm

Bad Turd!

Why are you stirring... turds?

Jul 22, 2012 - 1:02pm

He's doing A god's work

The question is - which god is he working on behalf of? Be careful - collaboration with the wrong god can get you into real trouble, especially when the god does not have your back.

It would really suck to have an angry mob at your door and your god is nowhere to be found...

I Run Bartertown
Jul 22, 2012 - 1:04pm

The Free Market is not dead

It's just illegal.

"A 17-year-old Mason High School student has been charged with several counts of drug trafficking after allegedly spearheading a local pot ring, and employing several other Mason High School students in the process.

Authorities valued the drug operation at more than $3 million and say they believe the 17-year-old was grossing more than $20,000 a month."

Read more: https://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/region_north_cincinnati/lebanon/police-bust-3m-drug-ring-led-by-17-year-old-mason-high-school-student#ixzz21N5insXD

Maybe his defense will call obama as a witness.

​"He didn't build that."

"He didn't grow that."

What about the roads? He couldn't have sold all that pot with no roads. You can't really put the responsibility on him, now can you?

Short Stack
Jul 22, 2012 - 1:08pm


Okay then, don't worry about it. We will continue to stack. What you do is your own business.

Jul 22, 2012 - 1:19pm

The line of truth....

Since I mentioned finding snippets of the truth in many MSM articles here is one from this one.... ECB's Draghi: Euro Zone Not in Danger of Breakup https://www.cnbc.com/id/48273956 ""All movement towards financial, budgetary and political union is for me inevitable and will lead to the creation of new supranational bodies," he said."" Whether or not they get it who knows but they do want it....control.

Jul 22, 2012 - 1:23pm

Sympathy for the devil

This drought is going to hit us all in the pocketbook when we go grocery shopping. Mostly it will have a devastating effect on those with fixed incomes that are near the poverty level and the younger and middle aged who have been been forced to accept lesser paying jobs. While welfare recipients will get a mixed bag of results. Those with a snap card may get an increase to keep them above the poverty level while those with lobbyists in place like farmers will seem to be taking big losses (it wasn't theirs anyway, they didn't build it) but in actuality it's just a reduction in subsidy they will experience. Most of these poor old farmers have hitched their wagons to big ag, Monsanto, Pioneer etc. That means they have already started down that slippery slope of trading freedom for security and profit. The injustice that is being perpetrated against the american citizenry by our leaders can only result in something like the french revolution! Reminds me of an old eastwood movie "Hang em High"

Jul 22, 2012 - 1:23pm

Economic Recovery? Where?

The Band just seems to play louder the lower the ship gets in the water...

We are getting the Tourists here, and folks are spending, some.

The Commercial Lobster Industry is dealing with a decades low price per pound. Combined with record high expenses, it's not a pretty picture. Buyers, or "Dealers" are now telling Fisherman they cannot buy their catch, as they have no market for it.

The problem stems from the large volume of Lobster being caught presently, and the fact the shells are very fragile, leading to a very short time before they must be 'processed', or they will go to waste.

When all was well, the Banks doled loans out to many fisherman and families for New Boats, trucks, homes, ect.. now the rug has been pulled out from under them, Expenses sky high, Catch price at multi decade lows. Some of these boat loans are of significant size, as much as say $500,000. ( just the boat, now add mortgage, car payment, ect) That's a steep payment if there is little to no income being generated.

My friend worked for a Young Captain in just this situation. The lower the price has gone, the MORE product they need to catch to pay the bills... but wait that's part of the problem right?, too many lobsters being landed all at once, which pushes the price down, which means they have to catch more....

I know this is just a quick look into yet another struggling Industry, but it's really something to see the Cookie Crumble right before your own eyes

QE to infinity
Jul 22, 2012 - 1:24pm

Re: Tax havens: Super-rich 'hiding' at least $21tn

This is just more propaganda, to brainwash masses and condition them for more taxes, more invasion of privacy "to stop tax evasion", to basically steal more money from people (rich or otherwise). As far as I can see from the article, the figure of $21tn is the estimate of money held offshore, not specifically the amount "hidden" by super-rich tax evaders. While undoubtedly SOME super rich EVADE some taxes and hide that money offshore, a lot of money offshore is there legally, and a lot of money there does not belong to the "super rich", but to people who either are sensible enough to want to keep some money out of their jurisdiction, want to diversify into other currencies, and offshore bank accounts are the most convenient/only option for many. Or many expats, for example, from the UK, are denied bank accounts back in the UK, so that if they want bank accounts in sterling, they are forced offshore. There is nothing at all wrong with offshore bank accounts, if people declare them properly, or are not required to do so. To lump all offshore bank account holders together as "super rich tax evaders" is insulting. But I guess it doesn't matter to this group, campaigning against "tax havens", to deny people the choices and ability to protect their money against out of control governments, sinking currencies like euro etc. Oh look at all this money - if only our dear governments could grab it all, all our problems would be solved, all unsustainable government debts paid, and the governments could start running them up again, hurray!

I Run Bartertown
Jul 22, 2012 - 1:28pm

Admiral Ag Bar

"All you need to do is respect Turd's wishes ON HIS OWN WEBSITE."

Man, get with the times. That's OldThink. You sound like some kind of right wing reactionary.

​TF didn't build this. The government built the internet so that TF could make the big bucks. And in addition to paying his fair share, he has obligated himself to a social contract which requires him to provide services for anyone and everyone*.

'my name used to be barry soetero and i approve this message...'

* I learned that last part here - https://www.tfmetalsreport.com/forum/4037/property-rights

Jul 22, 2012 - 1:37pm

HAARP is Tesla's technology. 

HAARP is Tesla's technology. Tesla was absolutely brilliant.

High-frequency Active Auroral Research Project aka HAARP.

Raytheon expanded....

Anyway, Angles Don't Play This HAARP is a good read.

Want to learn?


HAARP caused earthquake in Sichuan China?

HAARP caused earthquake in Sichuan China?

HAARP: Persian Gulf Eyewitness

HAARP: Persian Gulf Eyewitness

China Earthquake 2010: Caused by American Scalar HAARP Weapon?

China Earthquake 2010: Caused by American Scalar HAARP Weapon?

GOT TO SEE!!! Chile and Japan Skies Lit Up Like a Christmas Tree All caused by Haarp


Full Movie Sinking of Japan 2006 Coincidence?... I Think Not!

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Pull down the read more tab....

Another good book is En Route To Global Occupation by Gary Kah, full of documentation.

Been following all this for over 2 decades and is absolutely breathtaking to see it come to fruition....

As they say, Truth is stranger than fiction....

Jul 22, 2012 - 1:45pm



I realize this is not the place to be discussing the Grand Conspiracies, but I would like to just say a few words on the matter to put it into perspective. Some think that by discussing these conspiracies wide enough, we can get some change. I would like to remind the folks who are passionate about these subject matters, Jessie Ventura's show didn't do much at all in WAKING UP THE MASSES.

I have studied these conspiracies myself starting with JFK assassination in college when I had 6 cork boards on my college apartment living room wall full of pictures, copies, information and data like it was a police investigation. Most of my college buddies thought I was over the top, but some of them actually looked over the info when they would come over for a few beers.

Anyhow, I am not writing this to STIR UP A DEBATE, but rather to say.... it is a waste of time trying to get the word out (even if the conspiracies are true), because the public could care less. This is the problem.


The peaking of oil, the declining net oil exports and the falling EROI, will starve the very fuel the so-called CABAL will need to keep controlling the system. As the world financial system collapses, so will the human infinite growth industrial economy. Thus, all these things we think that are going to do us in by the CABAL will not. Instead the collapse just might be bad enough...LOL

Lastly.... time to simplify ones lifestyle and best to be in physical metals unless you want to turn out to be like those 5,000 Chinese.

Jul 22, 2012 - 2:00pm

3.0 earthquakes along with

3.0 earthquakes along with seas turning red and dead fish tells me that there was fracking going on. Nothing to do with magical American earthquake machines.

Gee, and now RAINBOWS are caused by HAARP. Good fuck, people. Do these guys even know what rainbows ARE? They aren't magical energy beams. They are prisms formed by water vapor in the air. If you have a technology that is going to produce a rainbow, you wouldn't even notice it, as you would be much more concerned about the SECOND SUN IN THE SKY.

Jul 22, 2012 - 2:09pm

The View From The Carport ~ Musings

Nothing is, but what is not.

1929 - 1933

6,000 banks went out of business

9 million savings accounts vanished

85,000 businesses went bankrupt

13 million unemployed

400,000 family farms were foreclosed

2,600 schools closed

300% hike of admissions to sanatoriums

2 million homeless men wandered aimlessly

30% hike in suicides

The 'Great Depression' had begun.

When pressure builds in markets, the crash that eventually results is not an accident, but a consequence. They are not truly random events, but reflections of stresses that have built up in the world system. Those who believe and follow the Keynes school of economics, keep wanting the economy to have laws of motion like the planets, hence the largely artificial notion of 'equilibrium.' When in fact the economy, with its turbulence and complexity, bears more resemblance to the behavior of clouds in a weather system.

The global economic system is about to blow up. The world financial sector has been kept alive through officially backed accounting fraud and equally backed criminal actions since 2008. This rigged racket is coming to an end because sooner or later, the abstraction called money must make truthful representations of itself in relation to reality, or else people cease to accept its claim of value.

When the bottom is in for both gold and silver, it will signal the top is in for the US dollar. Gold will be taken up and out of the system, as being too expensive for individuals to buy. Hyperinflation will be a currency event due to the devalued currency induced cost push inflation impact of the velocity of money. At the moment this velocity has been kept in check by the Fed through artificial means, however the stress build up in the system has become such that this has begun to 'leak' out in an ever increasing flow.

The period of mid-August to mid-September will see a resolution. ALL indicators of the underlying fundamentals point to this occuring.

Jul 22, 2012 - 2:25pm


I believe Rainbows are God's covenant with mankind that he will never flood the globe again.

However rainbow clouds are entirely a different thing.

I do watch the sky because we live in the New Madrid area. Any advanced warning could save countless lives.

It is interesting to watch the convergence of so many things coming together that has affected the current weather, drought and coming food shortages.

Also keep an eye on Damascus, Isaiah 17:1.

Stack metal, food, water and .........

Jul 22, 2012 - 2:33pm
Jul 22, 2012 - 2:37pm

Not sure if this has been posted yet

But a good listen... posted july 18

Ask The Expert - Eric Sprott [Part 1] - Sprott Money News
Ask The Expert - Eric Sprott [Part 2] - Sprott Money News
Jul 22, 2012 - 2:38pm

pts 3 & 4

Ask The Expert - Eric Sprott [Part 3] - Sprott Money News
Ask The Expert - Eric Sprott [Part 4] - Sprott Money News
I Wazere
Jul 22, 2012 - 2:45pm

cats ... hallmark writer having a bad day

My tire was thumpin'

I thought it was flat;

I looked at the tire

and noticed your cat.

... sorry

Jul 22, 2012 - 2:47pm

Obama is not a pizza!

Well now we know!

1000 hat tips for that one clinkin!


SCOMK (spewed coffee on my keyboard)

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