Constitutional Deception

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Thu, Jun 28, 2012 - 11:50am

Article 1. Section 7. Congress shall make any law it pleases, regardless of whether the citizens were lied to, deceived or otherwise misled into supporting its passage.

George and Obama debate health care taxes

The metals are, of course, up against it this morning. If you haven't yet read this (https://www.tfmetalsreport.com/blog/3940/lookout) or this ( https://www.tfmetalsreport.com/blog/3963/lookout-part-ii), please do so immediately. It is looking increasingly likely that the triple bottom in silver will soon fail. IF stops below 26.25 are tripped (maybe on The Globex this afternoon), silver may rapidly descend toward 25 and then continue, over the next couple of weeks, down toward 22 in a final washout move. Please be prepared for this and do not panic if it happens.

Gold is still in its 1530-1630 range but it is, of course, subject to a breakdown, too. Be vigilant.

Hang in there and don't be surprised by anything.

TF

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single6
Jun 30, 2012 - 12:22am

States reassert sovereignty

Why is it that people are so afraid of States leaving the Union if need be. And if the national guard come.....let them.......at some point people are going to having to realize numbers. IE 80 million gun owners vs 2000 AFT agents. Will any politician go send in troosp on a state and force people to do what again????? What if more than one state getting together with another and form a group? Do the Feds have the numbers?? For what again??

alphamorphHrunner
Jun 29, 2012 - 9:23pm

Hrunner - At Last!!!

We agree 100% on something. I personally prefer the Spyder in (what else), silver.

See you on the highways and bi-ways!

Really-
Jun 29, 2012 - 1:39pm

@achmachat Nice Score

I love the maples..........partial to the moose. Nice Timing!

Hrunner
Jun 29, 2012 - 1:11pm

@47

Reading the discussions there were several misunderstandings

I made the analogy of Yugos to Cadillacs to compare a low-cost mediocre healthcare system to a similar costing but much higher quality healthcare system. In fact, efficient free-market systems cost less than state-controlled or insurance company controlled systems. And allow consumers to spend money on what the healthcare they personally value and want. Not what the state says they must have or cannot have.

Personally, I drive a salvaged 2010 Toyota Tacoma I restored (great vehicle), fully paid. The spare fiat (former car payment) goes into preps and precious metals. Though I do lust after a new Porsche Boxster. Possibly on the other side of the experiment.

The vast majority of 'disabled' you talk about, as @stephanie mentioned, do have skills and contributions. I think you undervalue the concept that personal achievement is a route to personal happiness, even for a disabled person. In additional to providing something to society.

I'm sorry your view the world as exploiters and the exploited. I suppose I exploit my plumber when I pay him less than whatever you or a politician thinks he should be paid. Does he exploit me when he charges me over $100 per hour for weekend calls?

You may be surprised to find out that in the U.S. even (especially) before the giant managed care organizations and the giant government bureacracies, the poor and disadvantaged were given free care by healthcare providers and communities. They still do get free care (they commonly don't pay bills- by inability or poor values), though market distortions have made it much harder and almost impossible to provide this free care. Before you indict the whole capitalist system, you also might want to appreciate and check out the many medical groups that give millions upon millions of dollars of free care to patients around the world- World Vision, Operation Smile, and the International Red Cross as examples. These are all possible because of the resources provided by wealth creation by capitalist systems. You can't share what you don't have.

I appreciate your long post, and you're spot on about the fascist problems in America, wrong about American motivations and culture. Unfortunately you seem to advocating replacing a large corrupt system (fascism) with a large corrupt system (socialism/ communism). I'm for the liberty-embracing, personal responsibility, small, simple, limited system.

A free-market simpler alternative to Obamacare disaster:

https://broun.house.gov/healthcarebill/brounbill.htm

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Jun 29, 2012 - 11:57am
rl999
Jun 29, 2012 - 11:17am

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rl999
Jun 29, 2012 - 11:09am

SWIFT

Exempted countries:

"A US official said that the administration has exempted all “significant” buyers of Iranian oil. The exemptions are for a renewable 180-day period."

(India, Malaysia, South Africa, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Turkey, Taiwan, China, Singapore, Belgium, the Czech Republic, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Japan, the Netherlands, Poland, Spain, United Kingdom)

NON Exempted:

Pakistan and Afghanistan. "The countries will not face sanctions as a whole, but their financial institutions will now be subject to bans in the United States if determined that they have dealt with Iran’s central bank to arrange the purchase of oil."

--Exemptions will be reviewed roughly Dec 27.

https://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/29/u-s-exempts-china-singapore-from-...

achmachat
Jun 29, 2012 - 10:56am

good day!

today is good!

I managed to order 150 silver maples for 24,73€ each.

including shipping AND 7% VAT.

10 minutes after my order, the price went up by 0,75€ per maple.

disclaimer: these are paid with funds that otherwise would just idly sit in a bank account, gathering digital dust.

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