How Do You Kill 11,000,000 People?

Thu, Mar 8, 2012 - 4:56pm

That title probably gets your attention. It's also the title of a book I've been meaning to recommend to you and today just seemed like the right day to do it.

Earlier today I stumbled across Jesse's blog and read a post he made yesterday. In addition to his usual charts, Jesse chose this post to discuss the life and death of Sophie Scholl, a conscientious dissenter to the regime of Nazi Germany. Scholl and her brother were ultimately put to death in 1943 for having the audacity to speak freely about the horrors of their tyrannical government. Jesse's eloquent post can be found here:

This prompted me to do my own research about Sophie Scholl. The most accessible item I found was a YouTube snippet from the 2005 motion picture entitled "Sophie Scholl: The Final Days". The film attempts to tell the actual, true story of Sophie and her brother, Hans, and it was nominated for an Oscar for Best Foreign Film in 2006. As you watch this clip, be mindful of how easily the dialogue could be re-enacted in a not-too-distant future. In the infamous words of The Bard: "What is past is prologue". 

Sophie Scholl Interrogation

Which brings me to the subject of this post. "How Do You Kill 11 Million People?: Why the Truth Matters More Than You Think" is a book by New York Times best-selling author Andy Andrews. It's not a long book, coming in at just 78 pages. However, it is possibly the most powerful and effective tool I've seen in describing the economic and social atmosphere that led Europe to a previously unthinkable horror. A link to Amazon is provided below but you can just as easily find multiple copies of this book at your local Barnes & Noble. Please buy the book and read it. Then, give it to a friend and encourage them to read it and pass it along, too. The world must be awakened before it is too late. Perhaps, by publicizing this book and moving it up the NYT list, we will help this cause.


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Mar 8, 2012 - 5:01pm


Yes! Again! .... Have to check this book! Thanks Turd!

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Mar 8, 2012 - 5:04pm



Mar 8, 2012 - 5:07pm

finally thurd?


OK now that I've secured thurd I can comment. That book is a fantastic read. I second Turd's sentiment.

Mar 8, 2012 - 5:15pm

podcast REcommendation

TURD, you must do a PODCAST with your wife. We want to know the inner workings of TURD furguson and what she thinks of all this stuff. Ask the wife tonight..she what she says. We get to submit question

Remember:First Ladies are always in the lime light..she can't sit this goes with the territory 

Mar 8, 2012 - 5:29pm

The Jews had no choice

However there were over 10,000 Jehovah's Witnesses who had a choice to stay out of the concentration camps. They just had to Heil Hitler and support the war effort. You know like this country who is trumping up propaganda against Iran. Just go to the Holicost museum in DC. There is a big section on those who wore a purple triangle. The issue is huge, much greater than worring about who's country has the least corrupt government, they are all going..

Mar 8, 2012 - 5:42pm

Those of you without deep

Those of you without deep roots should start thinking of leaving the US and the West in general.

Mar 8, 2012 - 5:43pm

The difference today is that

The difference today is that the Fuhrer's grasp isn't just tightening around a single nation.

Mar 8, 2012 - 5:46pm

Heavy Duty

A pretty heavy topic.

Can anyone of us actually imagine what it must have been like to live in Nazi occupied Europe or elsewhere and have to endure how life must have been under Hitler? Whew!

Watch Private Ryan or Band of Brothers for a pretty realistic take on it. And even that is glossed over and not as ugly as it actually was.

I've got it made in life if that's what I have my current existence to compare to. Many millions of people have experienced hell on earth. Fortunately, I haven't experienced anything close to that type of oppression or mayhem on that level. I hope I never do nor any of us.

Mar 8, 2012 - 5:48pm


My teenagers have introduced me to the wonderful world of memes.

Mar 8, 2012 - 5:49pm


What a powerful clip. Checked on my iPhone and "Sophie Scholl: The Final Days" is available for streaming on Netflix. I just added it to my instant cue and plan on watching it when I get home this evening. Posting from an iPhone sucks - hate typing with my thumb.

Mar 8, 2012 - 5:56pm


The best book I've ever seen or read on the topic of "what it must have been like to live through it" is "Maus", a graphic novel by Art Spiegelman. Jews are mice, Germans are cats. The whole two volume novel is entirely based upon the true narrative of his father, Vladek, who survived Auschwitz. Absolutely fascinating book.

Mar 8, 2012 - 5:58pm

@DPH - Are we in the build-up to a new Nazi Germany?

DPH wrote: Can anyone of us actually imagine what it must have been like to live in Nazi occupied Europe or elsewhere and have to endure how life must have been under Hitler? 

Not really, but I think I can imagine what it was like during Hitler's ascension to power while the Nazis used propaganda to take over Germany.

Is it just me, or am I the only one who sees what the mainstream media is doing as absolutely crazy-making? I posted the link to Soledad O'Brien's awful performance on CNN earlier today - here it is again if you missed it:

When I see stuff like this, *my* head starts to implode! The obvious, pernicious, in-your-face propaganda is so mindblowingly unreal - and yet, I know many, many people who fall for it!

It is precisely this kind of crap that allowed Hitler to take over Germany. If you think it can't happen here...well, it is happening here. NOW.

And for anyone who think I might be overreacting by indirectly comparing the Obama regime to Hitler's Nazi Germany...if you can't see it by now, it's because you, too, have been blinded by propaganda.

Mar 8, 2012 - 6:05pm

A Heavy Subject

A heavy subject, indeed. But, one that needs to be considered. [Thanks Turd - that book is now on my "to acquire and read" list].

I would also recommend reading "The Hiding Place" written in 1971 by Corrie Ten Boom, a Dutch woman who suffered atrocities in German Concentration Camps for the crime of protecting and hiding innocent Jewish people from the Gestapo. It's a detailed account of Corrie's life (she was in her 50's when she was imprisoned by the Germans) and the horrible circumstances of the German occupation of Holland. A riveting read.

Mar 8, 2012 - 6:07pm

Everyone read this book too.

Everyone read this book too. (It's related after all) I read it last fall and it is simply amazing how the US is following the Nazis goose step by goose step.

PS See you in the FEMA re-education camps! cheeky

Mar 8, 2012 - 6:17pm

On the plus side

hardly anyone under 30 watches CNN, MSNBC, the network news, or reads newspapers. The propoganda machine will have to infiltrate the social media to brainwash them.

The web is really the equivalent of the printing press. Could you imagine if this kind of financial crap was going down in the '70s and all we had was Cronkite to feed us information? Then again, Cronkite and the Washington Post probably would have called out the adminstration on a few things.

In retrospect, if Watergate happened today it probably wouldn't have even lasted one 24h news cycle. Anyone who tried to get to the bottom of the story would have had a heart attack in their early 40s.

Mar 8, 2012 - 6:17pm

Here's another

Heard this one is good as well.

Light One Candle: A Survivor's Tale from Lithuania to Jerusalem

Solly Ganor

Mar 8, 2012 - 6:24pm

I had an uncle who was a

I had an uncle who was a prisoner of war after the battle of the bulge. He was beaten and made to do labor as they starved him in a camp. He tried to escape once and they tracked him down and beat him so badly it broke his collar bone and dislocated his shoulder. Most in his camp died before the liberation. He was close to death when the US took the camp. The red cross saved a lot of those guys. Sympathetic German farmers would sneak them food as they were in the country side doing their labor (fixing roads and bridges). Germans like Ms Sholls who had a concious and respect for human life were the reason he survived. And before the war as a boy, he did whatever odd jobs he could in Chicago during the depression to help buy milk for his infant siblings. They almost died one winter when things got bad. After surviving all that, he lived the American dream, building wealth and enjoying freedom. though things are bad here, we still have a lot of freedom and prosperity. However we cant underestimate the fed printing us into oblivion and the slow erosion of our rights. I'm not sure I'm ready to leave the US yet, I'm not sure where you could have it any better?

Mar 8, 2012 - 6:27pm

And all this time

I thought Turd was going to discuss that big engulfing silver triangle which has me concerned. Just goes to show ya.

Mar 8, 2012 - 6:34pm

Makes me wish I’d home-schooled the kids.

This video is actually about how government-run schooling contributed to the rise of socialism, imperialism and eventually fascism in Germany between the 1890s and 1940s

Silver Passion
Mar 8, 2012 - 6:34pm

I watched that movie -

Sophie Scholl - a couple of years ago...I guarantee you won't forget it.

Mar 8, 2012 - 6:35pm

Yet another good book

"The Book Thief" by Markus Zusak Supposedly a book for young adults but you would never guess that when reading it. Details what it was like to be a German adolescent living through WWII. One of the most memorable features of the book is that the story is narrated by Death.

Mar 8, 2012 - 6:39pm


They came for the criminal and I was silent because I'm an honest man.

They came for the communist and I was silent because I'm not a communist.

They came for the union organizer and I was silent because I don't belong to a union.

They came for the dissident and I was silent because I was satisfied.

They came for the demonstrator and I was silent because I don't demonstrate.

Then they came for me and there was silence because no one was left to speak up. 

Running away, or keeping your heads in the sand, or remaining silent, will give you what you deserve.

The FEMA camps are sitting ready, waiting for occupants. The police state rules. They will come... 

Mar 8, 2012 - 6:46pm


I hear what you're saying. I try not to watch too much news but it's helpful to keep abreast of what's being said and by whom on whatever subject.

Some of it is mind numbing and I ask myself at times if the person who just uttered something completely absurd is actually that naive or misinformed or if they have a quasi-script to stick to.

As far as becoming Nazi Germany. We're becoming something entirely unique that will probably never become like that. I don't forsee it. What might happen abroad is another question entirely and I still don't think it will be anything close to the nazi's. Others abroad have a different perspective for sure about the US military and have experienced things we can't imagine.

I think the mass media overall has done one heck of a psyche job on just about everyone to some degree with a continual and gradual barrage of messages and 'truths' that many people accept as fact or normal or more importantly, as acceptable.

Count me among them, I'm not immune. It started with all of us since we could watch TV or start learning 'truths or facts' in elementary school all the way to H.S. or college.

I think at some point we'll become almost factually hostage to either a barrage of gradual dis-information or a withholding of relevant information or sources. All under the auspices of national or cyber security. At some point within 10 years I believe the internet experiences a 'kill-switch' moment either for security reasons or it's actually attacked and hacked. (Not to mention, one strong EMP from a solar flare is all that separates us from going electronically into the dark ages)

The gradual abandonment of fundamental constitutional rights will be the clue that the US is morphing. Into what? Only history or the future knows.

The electronic information age could get dimmed for a variety of reasons. Govt. priorities or actions being the most likely.

I Run Bartertown
Mar 8, 2012 - 6:47pm


Any comparison between our small, self serving politicians and the Nazi Reich are far too generous.

If anything, the Chinese are following the 'vision' path. Policies strictly in the interest of your "us" (German/Mandarin) to the detriment of your "them" (Jews/Tibetan).

We're more like the USSR, where the feast is not the "other". The leaders here, as in the Soviet Beast, set their hungry eyes on their 'own' populace. 

Neither is angelic, but the former at least arguably has the benefits of sensibility and loyalty. There's not even that bit of redeeming quality in our/Soviet system.

Mar 8, 2012 - 6:53pm


They treat the video quite well in the panel and let the guy on the phone speak out. Aside from this up till now energy sucking insinuation sideshow I do believe that all american administrations have been and are EE. So if they ask here how fascism happens, look around you. Look at the souvereign nations the USA destroyed and leeched dry killing millions.

Mar 8, 2012 - 6:53pm

How do you kill ten million

How do you kill ten million people? By imposing socialism on them and not allowing them to escape.

Socialism denies property rights.

Without property rights, there cannot be a free market in the exchange of goods and services.

Without a free market, without a willing buyer and a willing seller, it is IMPOSSIBLE to know the real price of anything.

Without the price, it is IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to make the necessary economic calculation, that is to know when the inputs to an activity (labor or raw materials) costs more or less than the output of an activity (the value of the thing produced or service performed).

Without the economic calculation, it is IMPOSSIBLE for an economic activity to make a profit and thus be sustainable. Conversely, it is IMPOSSIBLE for an unprofitable economic activity to be sustainable, a concept that socialists love to scold the rest of us about.

Without profit, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have resources from which to feed, clothe and house those who are involved in the activity.

Without profit, it is IMPOSSIBLE, to have excess resources to set aside in the form of savings.

Without savings, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have capital to invest in new economic activities.

Without the ability to have property rights to those savings, it is IMPOSSIBLE to evaluate all of the other possible economic activities to find the ones that carries the least risk when compared to their anticipated return, and to properly allocate savings to the most promising investments.

Without new economic activity and without the ability for others to invest as it suits the saver, the economy cannot have the opportunity nor the resources with which to adapt to changing circumstances, let alone to provide jobs and resources for the next generation.

Without honest money, government is free to destroy the very means of accounting for, saving and exchanging wealth. Without the assurance that money will retain its value, people will not save but instead will either consume excess wealth or will store it in forms like fixed assets that preclude investment in new economic activity.

In other words, without property rights, a free market, price information that allows economic calculation of profit, the ability to save with the assurance those savings are free to be invested when and where the saver sees fit, and without honest money, a sustainable economy is IMPOSSIBLE.

Without a sustainable economy, it is IMPOSSIBLE for humans enjoy any level of prosperity. This is exactly the reason that North Koreans are reduced to foraging for bark and grass to fill their empty stomachs. Their government forbids property rights, forbids a free market, destroys price information, confiscates savings, forbids investment and has no economic growth.

Liberty, property, profit, investment, capital and honest money are the only means of creating a sustainable economy. All other ways have been tried and have failed utterly. Yet, somehow, property rights, profit, capital and honest money are still considered to be evil, particularly in the thinking of people still yearning for the perfect socialist Utopia. Socialism is in reality the economy of death.

How does this work in real life?

The economist Ludwig von Mises showed in 1920 [1,2] that since a socialist economy destroys price information via government intrusion, the myriad of participants in the economy are unable to make a fully rational calculation about true profit and loss. Any economic activity that operates at a loss cannot be “sustainable”, a concept the left loves to scold us about, yet cannot really grasp.

Taking another approach, the Nobel economist F.A. Hayek showed that a national economy had such an immense myriad of dynamic economic relationships that no single committee or bureaurcracy, no matter how smart or how well staffed, could possibly know enough to direct prices or production levels. His Nobel Lecture [3] was entitled The Pretence of Knowledge. Hayek had previously used this idea as the basis for a very thorough article [4] on the subject, “The Use of Knowledge in Society.”

When these two different withering critiques of socialism are combined, it is easy to see that not only is it dangrously foolish to think that economic decisions can successfully be made by government, but that competing bureaucracies will invariably react to the consequences of intrusions in the marketplace by each other. It would be like trying to control the height of waves on a lake by measuring them from the back of a boat circling in its own wake.

"Mr. Keynes's aggregates conceal the most fundamental mechanisms of change." --FA Hayek

Socialism is also morally bankrupt, for it demands we accept the premise that we can each live at the expense of others, despite how this violates the Commandments that forbid coveting and theft.

[1] Economic Calculation in the Socialist Commonwealth by Ludwig von Mises

[2] Why a Socialist Economy is "Impossible" by Joseph T. Salerno

[3] The Pretense of Knowledge

[4] “The Use of Knowledge in Society,” American Economic Review, XXXV, No. 4; September, 1945, pp. 519–30.

Mar 8, 2012 - 6:53pm

Thank you for the Book recommendation, bought today.

Have Mercy On The Criminal - Elton John (Don't Shoot Me 5 of 10)

Have mercy on the Turdite...

Mar 8, 2012 - 7:00pm


anyone who has an occasion to be out of doors tonight, look up! look to the north! there's a solar storm happening, and this increases the chances of auroras (northern lights) even at more southern latitudes than normally seen.

if you're in the southern hemisphere, directions are reversed. look south for southern lights (aurora australis)

if you have a chance, take a pic and post it!

Mar 8, 2012 - 7:04pm

The message

Has anyone ever seen this navy commercial? There are many like this one but I saw it recently and tracked it down on youtube.

I'll start out by saying I have nothing but the deepest respect for the people serving our country and doing what they do for us and our continued freedom. They follow orders. War is a political thing.

I'm sure some of you disagree.

What struck me about the commercial is not only the mayhem raining down on whatever country there pretending it to be, but also the almost corporate logo and phrase at the very end of the commercial. I thought we didn't want to be the global cop? (sarcasm)

 " A Global Force For Good?" It sounds so superhero-ish or Hollywood.

The surreal part of it for me is that this is a inducement for recruitment. 

Basic message: Join up and you can bomb things for real instead of playing a video game.

Navy's Newest Commercial - Feel The Rush
Mar 8, 2012 - 7:04pm

"Leave the West" - Too Easy

Does everyone miss it? The final act in the success or failure of the American Experiment will be whether or not the population of an established, fairly well-off nation decides to take all those guns, rifles, and ammo purchased since O'bottom was elected and simply ... use them "internally" as Jefferson said we would have too. Leave the west? And perhaps miss one of the greatest events in human civilization since Ogg and Larry first shook hands? I don't think so.

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