Finding Common Ground

Mon, Dec 5, 2011 - 10:56pm

I set out tonight to write another in the long line of posts regarding the Fed, The EE, S&P, WOPR and MFing Global. I got about 15 minutes into it and I erased the whole, frickin thing.

Tonight, I'm just not in the mood. Yes, it's all bullshit. S&P mentions that they are ready to downgrade virtually every credit on The Continent and the PMs tank. This is, of course, just another bullish development for the PMs but that doesn't matter. What matters is that the euro declined, so the dollar rallied and WOPR sold the PMs. Whatever. BTFD.

There, that was easy. Instead of wasting your time with a lengthy essay full of charts, I was able to spell it all out in just 55 words. Now we can move on.

A few weeks ago, I found a new blog via the "blog roll" on the left-hand side of the ZH homepage. It's written by a guy by the name of Jim Quinn. I have no idea who he is or whether we have anything in common. I do know, however, that I like his site. Visiting there this evening, I read his latest post. It's linked below.

As you know, I've not been an active supporter of the #occupiers. Frankly, I don't trust them. At this time, I'm not sure I can trust their intentions or their leaders. However, it is quite clear that this first wave of protesters do make some legitimate points and Mr. Quinn has summarized them well. Not knowing Mr. Quinn, it's certainly possible that we have very little in common "politically" but we do agree on one very important point. Namely, that the destruction of the wealth and the freedom of middle-income citizens worldwide is almost complete and, at the end, the world will either turn toward freedom and the rule of law or it will regress deeper into fascism and tyranny.

You've likely noticed that I'm an ardent believer in finding common ground. If we are to emerge from the darkness with freedoms intact, it will only be through cooperation and understanding. Polarity and vilification are the tools of tyrants. We must work together if we are to recover liberty. A good starting point would be a positive and constructive thread of comments to this post. TF

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Dec 5, 2011 - 10:59pm



Woo Hoooooo

Colonel Angus
Dec 5, 2011 - 11:06pm

Maybe the common ground is...

...standing against bullshit, in whatever form we find it.

There, I can agree with that.

Dec 5, 2011 - 11:11pm

Swiss Am

Not sure if anyone has seen the adverts by Swiss America that were refused by the networks, I just found the link via GATA. If anything TF, they will cheer you up and I'm not sure that SA doesn't want them to get out since they posted them. All the best :D

"The Wizards of Oz" - Obama and Bernanke Commercial: Part 2 (by Swiss America)
Edward G
Dec 5, 2011 - 11:12pm

Positive thread

Well said Turd.....we can all humbly maturely and respectfully learn together here, and be proud of that..... if anyone gets a buzz out of bickering online there are plenty of other venues available. A closed mind or heart is not going to learn anything new. peace x

Dec 5, 2011 - 11:12pm

Common Ground - It's all about Liberty.

Agree Turd - Common ground is a good place to start.

Liberty is the position where everything of value starts. Without liberty we don't have trust, we don't have development, we don't have sound money, we don't have faith in our fellow citizens, we don't have community, we don't have safety, we don't have "rule of law", we don't have a future.

Without Liberty we have tyranny - it really is that simple.

Buckets o Plenty
Dec 5, 2011 - 11:19pm


Not ad for my first post. This is a great site and community! Thanks Turd Jim Edit- More like 5th due to a Monday Night Football distraction

Dec 5, 2011 - 11:21pm

Takes two...

Finding common ground is the way we were taught to solve problems, and is how normal people "swing the deal". The issue is not, I think, with the common man, dare I say the 99%, being willing to dialogue and work to a solution. The issue is that there is no other with whom to dialogue. In fact, I am unsure of with whom, now, the common man has the opportunity to dialogue. The system as it stands, is divided into so many facets of human nature, heritage, and agenda as to defy the advent of meaningful and effective conversation. I fear the center cannot hold. In systems theory, closed energy consuming systems strive for homeostasis, balance of a (or any) sort; a multitude of contortions are possible in maintenance of the system. When that balance finally is impossible, when there are no more moves to be made they spontaneously and cataclysmically reorganize. I think we may be at that point, whether we like it or not. Given the present "powers that be" we may be past the point of re-establishing a working balance. I see no evidence yet of anything that would lead me to not believe that a cataclysmic re-organization is inevitable and most likely imminent. Like our mentor, the Turd, I advocate PREPPING!

Be Prepared
Dec 5, 2011 - 11:23pm

Comfortably Numb

When I was a child
I caught a fleeting glimpse
Out of the corner of my eye
I turned to look but it was gone
I cannot put my finger on it now
The child is grown,
The dream is gone.
I have become comfortably numb.

Pink Floyd – Comfortably Numb

Dec 5, 2011 - 11:30pm

Thanks big, yellow-hatted dude /Virtual memory heaven

Received my hat today, so thanks!

I hear you on the exhaustion part of this. I follow the markets a bit differently also lately. Not immersed in them but just aware they aren't doing much, like stuck in a groove for now waiting on the next big news item. It's like we don't even have real markets anymore that are tradeable and based on anything real or consistent enough to pattern off of. Not all the time, but sometimes.

Like now.

And as far as deleting stuff and "why bother?" I hear you there also.

I've stepped away from the computer and hit refresh many times and left some strong thoughts/feelings in virtual memory heaven. I don't think I've regretted ever doing so and wishing I had the post back because the best part of it was typing it out an thinking it and then letting it go and the thought/concern that went with it.

Tomorrows another day! Goodnite all.

Be Prepared
Dec 5, 2011 - 11:31pm

The Business of Government is Good

Well, its not really's just that Government is really Good at making more of itself to our detriment.


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