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For laughs and maybe even for some semi-serious discussion, the following is presented for your consideration.

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zilverreiger
Dec 2, 2011 - 5:06am

Green Lantern

and it was entirely ontopic too!

Jimux
Dec 2, 2011 - 5:13am

Let me get this right.

I should be looking up to Jamie Dimmon and telling my son to respect him and follow him as an example. That's right son, when you grow your aim is to package sub prime mortgages into complex securities and sell them to pension funds and german banks who actually believe in honest finance. And if you are really geneticaly superior you'll even bet against the securities.

I should tell my daughter, one day if you work really hard you can be the next Blythe Masters and fuck the PM freaks by slamming paper shorts during low volume trading and taking out their stops. That's ok, because your a winner!

The argument being used by this guy is a straw man. The difference between the average wage and the top 1% is the highest it has been since the late 1920's. The bottom 50% would be able to contribute more to tax if 1) more of them had a job and 2) they were paid more. Wage arbitrage from globalisation has taken the basic jobs out of western economies so that the companies and the top 1% can make a shit load more money from using labor in china/mexico etc costing 1/20th. The service sector was able to pick up the jobs slack, but only whilst the debt gravy train kept running.

In my opinion OWS may have some communist "we are all equal" types looking to have everyone working in the fields and no one looking to put themselves out, but they also have a component protesting at high finance fucking with peoples pensions and manipulating the markets. Lets not tar everyone with the same brush.

sixdollarsilver
Dec 2, 2011 - 5:24am
baldric
Dec 2, 2011 - 5:27am

Presented without comment

Well Turd,

Been lurking daily, every day actually with you guys, for over two years, I thank you for your guidance in the PMs turd but im afraid your "for laughs" posting just broke me.

The "minority" that protests, all across the globe, not just wall st, will, im afraid, become the Majority very soon. for all who look down on them, I pity you, you are just as responsible as the money masters.


Dec 2, 2011 - 5:40am

Good (sort of) morning

I repeat he said someone who BUILT something, not stole something. At least argue about what he said.

Hedge funds - do not just hold the money of the perceived 1% - they manage pension funds - all of them. Do you not think that teachers, etc., deserve to have their pensions managed in a profitable way?

Kyle Bass did a very good job of explaining whose money he managed and why it was better for him to make them money than to lose them money.

As to jealousy verus envy - it is the jealousy of the successful that should make one want to work harder and the envy that makes you want to steal their stuff. But the stuff won't be made if the makers cannot benefit - overtax the productive rich and they stop working.

Arjen
Dec 2, 2011 - 5:44am

It's not about who pays how

It's not about who pays how much tax and envy. Its about a bunch of people destroying democracy. At least thats what its for me and a bunch of others i know. Of course, theres also a bunch of occupy people who were sleeping on the street anyway, and now they have a place to sleep on the street together.... But i think its better to focus attention on the real issues that we can agree on, since it is mostly the same shit that we are worrying about in here, even though most of those demonstrating are not really aware of it, but that is because like 95% of the population, they simply don't know what a bond is, and their head starts to hurt when they hear a word like credit default swap.


Dec 2, 2011 - 5:53am

Only trouble was, I had to buy it:

JOHNNY'S GARDEN ~ MANASSAS ~ Lyrics

There's a place
I can get to
Where I'm safe
>From the city blues
And its green
And its quiet
Only trouble was
I had to buy it

And I'll do anything I got to do
Cut my hair and shine my shoes
And keep on singin' the blues
If I can stay here in Johnny's garden

As the swift bird
Flies over the grasses
Dipping now and then
To take his breakfast
Thus I come and go
And I travel
And I can watch that bird
And unravel

And I'll do anything I got to do
Cut my hair and shine my shoes
And keep on singin' the blues
If I can stay here in Johnny's garden

With his love
And his carin'
He puts his life
Into beauty sharin'
And his children
Are his flowers
There to give us peace
In quiet hours

And I'll do anything I got to do
Cut my hair and shine my shoes
And keep on singin' the blues
If I can stay here in Johnny's garden

Drifter
Dec 2, 2011 - 5:58am

To be clear

I saw a speech by a young guy in his early 20's denouncing the Fed that was very well done.

The majority of what I've seen is the same progressive crap that landed us in this morally relativistic soup we're swimming in now.

No, you don't teach your son to look up to "Dimmon". Teach him to look up to Pat Tillman or you.


Dec 2, 2011 - 6:00am

How about them metals!

33.35 - a very nice number indeed.

punchbowl
Dec 2, 2011 - 6:01am

It's like that chick on Ricky Lake who...

Says "Your just jealous...."

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Now Doug Stanhope is actually funny.

Drifter
Dec 2, 2011 - 6:03am

Only trouble was I had to buy it

I've been saving 8 years for my little piece of green

at the same time that I was paying off my student loans for 15 years

am I stupid? probably, but I'm not out in the street whining about repaying that loan while subsisting off donations, some of which came from taxpayers funds via Acorn

Arjen
Dec 2, 2011 - 6:12am

"As to jealousy verus envy -

"As to jealousy verus envy - it is the jealousy of the successful that should make one want to work harder and the envy that makes you want to steal their stuff. But the stuff won't be made if the makers cannot benefit - overtax the productive rich and they stop working."

And that's the thing Ayn Rand writes about. A good capitalist is one who works to the maximum of his ability because he does it for his own benefit. But now we have a bunch Ayn Rands' villains ruling the world. They don't care about being productive etc, they bend the rules as much as they can to get as much money and power as they can. That is clearly not the way capitalism is intended to work.

(The remaining question to me is, can the rules of capitalism be changed to make it work as intended, or are we fighting human nature and does human nature make it impossible for capitalism to work? Which is of course a little odd since capitalism is designed to benefit from this very "flaw" of human nature: selfishness.)

Drifter
Dec 2, 2011 - 6:12am

Speaking of taxpayer funding...

I forgot about this little gem, here's a repost-

Onward With Socialism

Hat Tip! 1

Onward With Socialism should actually be renamed because it's more a fascist entity then socialist from the looks of that article.

Y'all picked the wrong bandwagon.

https://biggovernment.com/cowens/2011/11/28/richmond-city-audits-local-tea-party-after-standoff-with-mayor/

Drifter
Dec 2, 2011 - 6:16am

Oh yeah, this is a classic

another repost for your perusal....this one gets down and dirty with "taking it to the streets" for more entitlements; as if L. Johnson didn't already ruin our society with them

OWS = bigger .gov & more free stuff

Hat Tip! 1 this is the bottom line with OWS & Obama, wealth redistribution "Poor children need more than just a $1,000 for their family, they need a war against poverty to make it a major priority in the way which we have a priority for Afghanistan, and a priority to bail out banks, and a priority to defend corporate interests when it comes to environmental issues," West said about more and new entitlements for the poor.

Professor West didn't just call for another war on poverty (the first war was fought by Lyndon B. Johnson), but went on to say that the push for more entitlements "is going to be fought in the streets." West showered the Occupy movement with praise for making people aware of the issue.

"It's a major question of priorities here. That's why the Occupy movement is so important because some of this is going to be fought in the streets. Civil disobedience does make a difference," he said.

"Corporate greed now is an issue everybody has got to talk about. Wealth inequality. Everybody must talk about it because of the Occupy movement," Mr. West concluded.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/28/cornel_west_ultimate_fight_for_entitlements_will_be_in_the_streets.html

zilverreiger
Dec 2, 2011 - 6:20am

stanhope and louie are nice

stanhope and louie are nice yeah

zilverreiger
Dec 2, 2011 - 6:23am

Drifter

Don't you think its fair if all people were to pay at least the same percentage of tax?

sixdollarsilver
Dec 2, 2011 - 6:33am

xty

33.375/1750.01

Not sure how much further we might go, but hey, kiwi-land signing off for a well earned Friday night movie.

Children of Men anyone? How about Gomorra?

hiway117
Dec 2, 2011 - 6:50am

Rant that Matters

https://www.netcastdaily.com/broadcast/fsn2011-1201-1.mp3 Wow, Turd. Adam's rant is really a pile, man. The kleptocracy must love you today.

Big L
Dec 2, 2011 - 7:02am

My dad always told me

The cream will rise to the top.

He was right.

His point was, you work HARD then you work hard some more, then you work even harder. THEN you prosper.

I don't see a lot of hard working people with the occupy people. I do see a lot of righteous indignation.

Hows about they go work for a living for 20+ years then the government comes along and degrades everything they've worked for their entire lives.

You want to see hard working people who are getting shafted by the government, go to a Tea Party rally.

Let me put it to you like this.

Go to a occupy rally, then go to a Tea Party rally and tell me who you would rather have as your relatives. For life, not just the next 3 months.

Tell me who you would rather ask for help when nobody has food, or a warm place to lay your head.

Occupiers sit around and bitch because they want someone else to solve their problems. Then they get up and leave all their trash behind for someone else to clean up. Right. From one of the folks paying for the clean up I think that says everything you need to know.

When the crapola hits the fan, I'll hang with the people that organize food gathering and house building.

I am not stupid enough to rely on people who think bitching about what they haven't been given is the answer. They can't even correctly identify the problem! I don't expect they'll fix a D**n thing.

L

MonkeySmoke
Dec 2, 2011 - 7:24am

@alien eyes

"new hippies same as the old hippies" you mean the "old hippies" that placed flowers in the barrels of rifles pointed at them? or do you mean the ones gunned down at Kent State by the National Guard? These "old hippies" were the ones that brought Vietnam to the dinner table and forced the issue. Vietnam could no longer be ignored due to these "hippies" marching, protesting and EXERCISING their RESPONSIBILITIES as CITIZENS of the United States of America. Ever heard of the Constitution or Bill of Rights? There are RESPONSIBILITIES built into these documents. We are not suppose to sit idly by while the government and the banksters steal everything that is not nailed down. I believe it was Jefferson or Jackson that said we, as citizens, were RESPONSIBLE for over-throwing the current government--current is a relative term--if they get out of line. Well, if they are not currently out-of-line I am not sure what it would look like. Criminals given the keys to the castle; criminals being placed in Prime Minister positions in two different countries by other criminals; banksters being allowed to go underground (Jon Corzine) never to be heard from again. What am I missing? We should thank God everyday that OWS is in place as they represent actual citizens exercising their responsibilities that are guaranteed by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. If they are swept away, God is the only One that will be able to help us, as it will be all too clear the Founding Fathers and all they fought for will surely perish.

boatman Big L
Dec 2, 2011 - 7:38am

@big l

your dad was right n so was mine.

ClinkinKY Antrobus
Dec 2, 2011 - 7:45am

A plant?

Hey Turd, why publish a posed propaganda shot? Who knows who this guy is or what role he's playing. He's got the threatening primate look for sure, but he's not a representative of the OWS's concerns. He's probably a plant who very effectively gets an angry instinctive response from folks and gets that anger to carry over and demonize any movement he's supposedly part of - a very effective form of negative propaganda.

Really? I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you also think that 9/11 was an "inside job". Am I right?

Turd posts a comedian's "rant" and a parody ad and the left-wingers here go crazy. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Left-wingers have no sense of humor...UNLESS the barbs are being thrown by Jon Stewart or Bill Maher and the targets are bankers, Wall Streeters, the rich or politicians (make that Republican politicians). I've heard too many times that "conservatives are too uptight"when Stewart and/or Maher spew their garbage because "after all, they're comedians". Now that the shoe is on the other foot the liberals/left-wingers once again expose their hypocrisy and hold "conservative" comedians to a different standard. It's so predictable.

Lest anyone thinks that I'm defending the crooked bankers, Wall Streeters, rich or politicians (of BOTH parties) please realize that I'm not going to paint with a broad brush on either side. I'm sure there are some intelligent and well-spoken members of OWS, but so far all I've seen are the Socialists, Anarchists and general dead-beats. And please don't tell me it's because the media has mis-represented them. The media has been their biggest cheerleaders.

One last point: Have any of you who so vehemently support the OWS movement offered any of them a share of your "stack"?

Sometimes I wonder how you keep your cool so well Turd!

GoldMania3000
Dec 2, 2011 - 7:49am

You know what today is?

It's the Friday bump and up.. friday up, monday take away the Friday up...Tuesday..flat, and Wed...let's get wild

Hammer
Dec 2, 2011 - 7:54am

Friday, December 02, 2011

Friday, December 02, 2011 7:24:33 AM
(EU) EU finance chiefs approve work on central bank loans; European Central Bank to lend €100-200B through the IMF - financial press

f
Dec 2, 2011 - 8:03am

Divisiveness

Divisiveness is right out of the elite playbook. As was first said somewhere along the line and quoted in the film Gangs of New York, "You can always hire one half of the poor to kill the other half." is a favorite mantra of the elites. As long as "we" are fighting amongst ourselves, all the easier to rape and pillage the nation's wealth.

OWS is far less than ideal, and many legitimate inconsistencies and gripes have been pointed out on these boards and even by broadcasters of varying quality. However, at the end of the day, there is a very clear distinction here between good and evil. You don't need to be a saint to be on the good side. But it is one or the other. For all their faults, lack of knowledge, and general ridiculousness, OWS is not on the evil side of that line. Neither are all rich people, as there are legitimate rich. These are entrepreneurs, innovators, inventors, and just plain-old hardworking savers and investors. The other side consists of the international bankers, unscrupulous politicians, morally-depraved lawyers, heirs, and others.

During the American Revolution there were many different factions that made up the Patriot cause. The professional revolutionary mob of Sam Adams had to align themselves with the rich Boston merchants, who had to align themselves with the rural Massachusetts farmers, all concerned about very different things. In the end even the New Englanders had to come together with the Southern plantation owners of Virginia, and even the backwoods South Carolinians had to get on board. This is a valuable lesson to us all. You don't need to be 100% or even 75% in agreement with others to be on the same side of injustice. Divisiveness is what is wanted by those who siphon money out of your accounts and it must be resisted when we catch ourselves being overly-critical of others.

SilverWealth Bay of Pigs
Dec 2, 2011 - 8:09am

amazing

Amazing the number of people on this thread who don't get it.

The kids aren't communists and they are not coming for your money.

We live inside a corporo-facist structure now of divide and conquer. Unimaginably huge amounts of money have been stolen by criminals sitting at the top who own and game the system.

OWS is not a 'threat' to your personal liberty. The threat, hello, is the government and the facist banksters.

People angry about these kids are little different than the Royalists before and during the American Revolution. The Royalists were easily manipulated by the King's propaganda, they dreamed of being good Englishmen, they played along inside a corrupt system, they were the sad majority for a long time and they resisted the sea change that approached them. They were vehement in their attacks on the revolutionaries and quite a few ended up fighting for the dying myth of kingship. They hated those among their very own neighbors who stood against the status quo.

SilverWealth
Dec 2, 2011 - 8:22am

very interesting

I appreciate the thread.

'Battle lines being drawn' as Stills would say.

There are Royalists crawling all over this site. Nothing will change their fear. Its a cultural meme for them. So be it. 'Dirty hippies, take a bath, get a job,etc.' we've heard it all before. And while the Royalists are busy ranting, the King steals their money and laughs all the way back home.

ardy
Dec 2, 2011 - 8:25am

Irony

Anyone whining that OWS are whiners should probably get themselves involved by teaching those whiners how to be the better at whining. I sense some of us (including TF) are feeling guilty that we are not proactive, being catalysts to positive, necessary change. But to make fun to the point of belittling those who sincerely wish for positive changes to happen (never mind some in the group who maybe ill-informed and may not present themselves well - not everyone is as eloquent as TF) only to justify our own inaction is not at all productive. With great power, comes great responsibility. That goes for this site too which I assume is gaining lots of viewers fast. I've always hold dear, "if you can't be part of the solution, at least don't be part of the problem."...or in this case, by helping to dismiss the valid intentions of OWS by misrepresenting them with some select bad apples to the public.

And oh, if you agree with Carolla, don't whine that CME is manipulating silver price. Those hard working people there probably pay 50% of your tax and get to their well-paid positions based on merits...Not!

Tecumseh
Dec 2, 2011 - 8:29am

The 99%

He's got it about 99% right.

johnboatcat
Dec 2, 2011 - 8:38am

Adam Corolla is the Glenn Beck of Comedy

Both are MSM, and work for MSM. Both are pushing the MSM’s agenda handed down from their masters of “Divide And Concur”. Until more people understand that the MSM is working daily to create decisiveness among the world population, so that it creates a smoke screen for the TPTB and makes a unified resistance more difficult, than they are winning.

We need to look at what we have in common with others and turn those elements into strengths. Only through a coordinated effort of all groups will we be able to overcome the oppression.

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