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Sat, Nov 26, 2011 - 12:55pm

Next week is shaping up to be an extremely volatile and tense week. At the surface, there is the ongoing concern over the EU and the future of the euro. Bubbling below the surface is something far more dangerous.

First, on Wednesday, there was this:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/aircraft-carrier-cvn-77-parks-next-door-syria-just-us-urges-americans-leave-country-immediately

Which was followed by this:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/russia-retaliates-against-us-puts-radar-station-combat-alert-prepares-take-out-european-missile

The only article I found concerning Medvedev's speech managed to minimize the concern by pointing out that all of the bluster was likely just "posturing before the next Russian presidential election". What the author failed to point out, however, is that Medvedev isn't running for re-election. Hmmm. So what do we make of it? What is going on here? Let's refer to the ageless wisdom of Admiral Painter:

Russians don't take a dump, son...

The Russians are clearly trying to send a signal to the U.S., NATO and the Arab League to NOT attack Syria and depose Assad the way they did Gaddafi. Syria is a longtime Russian ally in the region.

OK, so then we get this, from the media arm of The Mossad:

https://www.debka.com/article/21519/

Why would the Turks or the Israelis go to the trouble of wiping out 6 of Syria's "top pilots" if they weren't planning on assuming control of Syrian airspace in the near future?

https://news.yahoo.com/turkey-says-no-longer-tolerate-syria-bloodshed-113444151.html

And then we get this, also from debka. Looks like the Russian "plan" is escalating, too:

https://www.debka.com/article/21521/

Then, today, we are treated to this. Nothing like pissing off Pakistan, too, and at just the wrong time. You can bet your arse there will be mass rioting and anti-U.S. demonstrations in Pakistan over the next few days. Will there be sufficient chaos to unseat the ruling generals?

https://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/26/us-pakistan-nato-idUSTRE7AP03S20111126

Just for a little background and color:

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Nuclearweaponswhohaswhat

And, to top it all off, there's this:

https://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/iran-general-threatens-retaliation-against-israel-nuclear-sites-1.397789

And this:

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/iran-threatens-hit-turkey-us-israel-attack-15032413#.TtEtds1OBhs

So, enjoy the rest of your weekend. Rest and relax but keep an eye on the headlines. Perhaps this will all just blow over. Could we be so lucky? I fear the worst, however, so I'll leave you with one more bit of wisdom and experience from Admiral Painter.

We'll Be Lucky to Live Through It

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  224 Comments

Eric Original
Nov 26, 2011 - 3:01pm

Keep on the Sunny Side, folks! (but prepare for the worst)

Mother Maybelle & The Carter Sisters - Keep On The Sunny Side
question
Nov 26, 2011 - 3:02pm

Sometime Soon

the human species will have to learn to engage the rational thinking portion of our being and crawl out of the cave mentality.

We can do it; it's the next step.

Thanks TF for all you do; this site is the "go to" place for info on, well, just everything!!!!

BUDDHA PRINCESS
Nov 26, 2011 - 3:08pm

Billionaire Eric Sprott Asking Silver Producers Save in Silver

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https://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2011/11/25_...

Velocity
Nov 26, 2011 - 3:16pm

Want No War? ...Don't Fund It

If you want to stop the escalation toward war, defund it

Yep simple: Stop Paying Your Taxes

When US citizens stop sponsoring the (their) War Machine is the day the murderous deranged thugs amongst your society run out of money and a public mandate to wage war/murder

Don't sit there like sheeple, do something about it: take the Militaries wages/funding away

Velocity
Nov 26, 2011 - 3:20pm

@Buddha Princess : Sprott 'spot on'

Sprott is a brave man

What a 'Sterling' chap ...he deserves our support

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Nov 26, 2011 - 3:33pm

War games between China/Pakistan>>>Bad timing or not?

War games spotlight China-Pakistan hype

AFP Yesterday

Soldiers from Pakistan and China march after joint military exercises in Jhelum.—Reuters

JHELUM: Paratroopers hurtling head first out of planes, attack helicopters strafing a terror training centre and shacks blown to bits were this week’s latest embodiment of China-Pakistan friendship.

The war games conducted by 540 Chinese and Pakistani soldiers running around scrubland —the fourth joint exercises since 2006 —were ostensibly a chance for China to benefit from Pakistan’s counter-terrorism experience.

There was disappointment that fighter jets were unable to carry out a bombing raid, with visibility apparently poor, but the exercises were declared a success in terms of deepening friendship and improving military cooperation.

But behind the pomp rolled out for the Chinese, complete with slap-up marquee lunch and bags of presents, the relationship is as transactional as any other, as China competes with Pakistan’s arch-rival India for Asian dominance.

And it is far from easy to decipher. “They operate silently so as not to make any statements in public apart from cliches. So one doesn’t know what’s happening,” said retired Pakistani general Talat Masood.

China is Pakistan’s main arms supplier, while Beijing has built two nuclear power plants in Pakistan and is contracted to construct two more reactors...

https://www.dawn.com/2011/11/26/war-games-spotlight-china-pakistan-hype....

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Nov 26, 2011 - 3:36pm

Here's the Pakistan take on matters...

TOP STORIES

Pakistan reviews US, Nato ties over lethal strike Defence committee of the country decided to seal its Afghan border to Nato and called on the US to leave Shamsi airbase within 15 days. 3 hours ago Muharram moon sighted, Ashura on December 6 The Central Ruet-e-Hilal Committee announced on Saturday that the moon of Moharramul Harram 1433 AD was sighted in the country. 5 hours ago Imran asks rulers to end alliance in ‘war on terror’ The PTI chief said that the govt had failed to safeguard Pakistan's security and strategic interests because of the compromises it had made under NRO. 6 hours ago Foreign ministry calls in Munter to lodge protest “I regret the loss of life of any Pakistani servicemen, and pledge that the US will work closely with Pakistan to investigate this incident,” said the US ambassador. 6 hours ago Nato says “likely” it caused Pakistan casualties “Close air support was called in, in the development of the tactical situation, and it is what highly likely caused the Pakistan casualties,” said Brig. Gen. Jacobson. 7 hours ago Yemen: Warplanes kill 80 anti-government tribesmen The official said on Saturday that warplanes and artillery had pounded the armed tribesmen for the past 48 hours. 8 hours ago

MORE TOP STORIES

PM cancels engagements in Multan, returning to Islamabad Nato to ‘thoroughly investigate’ Pakistan border incident Pakistan protests attack ‘in strongest terms’ with Nato, US Bail granted to Afaq Ahmed in kidnapping case Pakistan stops Nato supplies after raid kills 28 troops Six killed in a blast west of Baghdad: sources

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BUDDHA PRINCESSVelocity
Nov 26, 2011 - 3:42pm

Sprott 'spot on' Yes, he is

Sprott 'spot on'

Yes, he is brave, brilliant and like you said he is our front runner

our 'Sterling' chap

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Nov 26, 2011 - 3:56pm

How did anyone live through any war? (edit)

I've wondered sometimes how anyone managed to survive a war? Advanced military technology, especially at night and stealth aircraft, radar and imagery coupled with advanced platforms with mostly pinpoint targeting capabilities and it seems unlikely anyone could walk away on any level.

This type of firepower, mostly by the U.S., has been raining down from above for a very long time.

I see the Russian threat as troublesome and a line in the sand also. The China/Pakistan war game mobilization is coincidental I believe, but nonetheless a concentration of joint military readiness at a time when a mistake could be made and a knee jerk response possible.

Thanks for the update and relaying what many of us probably think also. It's a bummer, but it is what it is. Maybe someone blinks?

If Assad dies somehow, this pretty much stops. Military coup?

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dropout
Nov 26, 2011 - 3:57pm

Only One Way

Its the DEBT stupid!

Massive amounts of DEBT!

Only one way to solve the DEBT issue;

1/ Pay it off - ain't going to happen. Not a HOPE IN HELL!

2/ Default - No way, the rich want their cake and eat it too!

3/ WAR. Take the nation to war. The bigger, the nastier, the better! The rich get richer.

While the common folk become cannon fodder. Unemployment solved. Jobs become plentiful. Financial crisis taken care of. Energy (OIL) supply lines secured (STOLEN) military/industrial complex happy. The rich happy.

The common folk - not so much. Military funeral business picks up. What a mess.

SAY NO! NO MORE WAR. NO MORE SONS/DAUGHTERS KILLED FOR THE RICH TO PROFIT.

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