Fast Market = Fast Update

Thu, Oct 27, 2011 - 10:39am

No time for dillydallying today. Things are rolling so let's get right to it.

Let's start with our two base commodities as the PMs are definitely drawing some strength from them. As I type, Dec11 crude is up $2.41 at $92.61. DrC is charging higher again, too.

These two have given a boost to silver which is finally trading back above $34.

Gold is lagging just a bit but the chart suggests that it won't be lagging much longer.

That's all for now. I'll have a more detailed update after the close. TF

1:10 pm EDT UPDATE:

As this epic drop in the POSX continues, look for even more downside tomorrow. As noted in the post from later yesterday, once 76 gave way, The Pig looked to fall into the abyss. As you can see on the chart below, 74 looks likely as a short-term bottom.

Dropping to 74 tomorrow or next week would likely be the impetus for gold at 1780 and silver at 37. TF

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Oct 27, 2011 - 10:10pm

This is how it starts / Chinese USD denominated bonds

Dollar Bonds Best of Emerging World as Wen Acts By Rachel Evans and Fion Li - Oct 27, 2011 9:24 PM ETFri Oct 28 01:24:42 GMT 2011

China’s dollar-denominated corporate bonds are providing the highest returns among emerging markets this month on signs policy makers are acting to shield the economy from slowing global growth and increasing defaults.

Corporate debt gained a record 11.9 percent in October, beating the previous monthly high of 10.5 percent in November 2008 and following the 19 percent loss in August and September, according to JPMorgan Chase & Co. indexes. Chinese debt returned more than Indonesia, the second-best performer among the 35 developing nations tracked by JPMorgan at 9.9 percent and more than twice as much as company bonds of Russia, India and Brazil, the data show.

Regulators indicated this month they would boost access to credit for small business and allow local-government financing vehicles to roll-over loan repayments to ease financial pressures in the world’s fastest-growing major economy. Chinese industrial production outpaced analysts’ estimates last month and concern is easing that exports will slump as European leaders move closer to a solution for their debt crisis.

“The market priced in excessive concern about a hard landing in China which dissipated after the release of recent economic data,” said Becky Liu, a Hong Kong-based strategist at HSBC Holdings Plc. “The latest Chinese economic figures were not as bad as some people feared.”

Rising Production

China’s dollar bonds returned more than three times as much as Brazilian notes at 3.7 percent, while debt in Russia earned 5.9 percent and India’s returned 4.8 percent, according to JPMorgan indexes. Notes issued by Chinese real estate companiesLongfor Properties Co Ltd. (960) and Yanlord Land Group Ltd. (YLLG) increased 31 percent and 33 percent, according to data compiled by Bloomberg...

Oct 27, 2011 - 10:11pm

Canada??? WTF, most of 'em don't know jack about anything!

Down here, we have a horrifying analog called "Jay Walking"...

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Oct 27, 2011 - 10:12pm

Chronological history of gold / You'll find this fascinating...

DPH: You might want to print this out as it's pretty interesting imo. My apologies for the span from 2002 to present. I'm working on it. Some of these facts are pretty astounding and largely forgotten.



4000 B.C. A culture, centered in what is today Eastern Europe, begins to use gold to fashion decorative objects. The gold was probably mined in the Transylvanian Alps or the Mount Pangaion area in Thrace.

3000 B.C. The Sumer civilization of southern Iraq uses gold to create a wide range of jewelry, often using sophisticated and varied styles still worn today.

2500 B.C. Gold jewelry is buried in the Tomb of Djer, king of the First Egyptian Dynasty, at Abydos, Egypt.

1500 B.C. The immense gold-bearing regions of Nubia make Egypt a wealthy nation, as gold becomes the recognized standard medium of exchange for international trade. The Shekel, a coin originally weighing 11.3 grams of gold, becomes a standard unit of measure in the Middle East. It contained a naturally occurring alloy called electrum that was approximately two-thirds gold and one-third silver.

1350 B.C. The Babylonians begin to use fire assay to test the purity of gold.

1200 B.C. The Egyptians master the art of beating gold into leaf to extend its use, as well as alloying it with other metals for hardness and color variations. They also start casting gold using the lost-wax technique that today is still at the heart of jewelry making. Unshorn sheepskin is used to recover gold dust from river sands on the eastern shores of the Black Sea. After slucing the sands through the sheepskins, are dried and shaken out to dislodge the gold particles. The practice is most likely the inspiration for the “Golden Fleece”.

1091 B.C. Little squares of gold are legalized in China as a form of money.

560 B.C. The first coins made purely from gold are minted in Lydia, a kingdom of Asia Minor.

344 B.C. Alexander the Great crosses the Hellespont with 40,000 men, beginning one of the most extraordinary campaigns in military history and seizing vast quantities of gold from the Persian Empire.

300 B.C. Greeks and Jews of ancient Alexandria begin to practice alchemy, the quest of turning base metals into gold. The search reaches its pinnacle from the late Dark Ages through the Renaissance.

218 B.C. – 202 B.C. During the second Punic War with Carthage, the Romans gain access to the gold mining region of Spain and recover gold through stream gravels and hardrock mining.

58 B.C. After a victorious campaign in Gaul, Julius Caesar brings back enough gold to give 200

coins to each of his soldiers and repay all of Rome’s debts.

50 B.C. Romans begin issuing a gold coin called the Aureus.

476 A.D. The Goths depose Emperor Romulas Augustus, marking the fall of the Roman Empire

600 A.D. –699 A.D. The Byzantine Empire resumes gold mining in central Europe and France, an area untouched since the fall of the Roman Empire.

742 A.D. –814 A.D. Charlemagne overruns the Avars and plunders their vast quantities of gold, making it possible for him to take control over much of western Europe.

1066 A.D. With the Norman conquest, a metallic currency standard is finally re-established in Great Britain with the introduction of a system of pounds, shillings, and pence. The pound is literally a pound of sterling silver.

1250 A.D. – 1299 A.D. Marco Polo writes of his travels to the Far East, where the “gold wealth was almost unlimited.”

1284 A.D. Venice introduces the gold Ducat, which soon becomes the most popular coin in the world and remains so for more than five centuries.

1284 A.D. Great Britain issues its first major gold coin, the Florin. This is followed shortly by the Noble, and later by the Angel, Crown, and Guinea.

1377 A.D. Great Britain shifts to a monetary system based on gold and silver.

1511 A.D. King Ferdinand of Spain says to explorers, “Get gold, humanely if you can, but all hazards, get gold,” launching massive expeditions to the newly discovered lands of the Western Hemisphere.

1556 A.D. Georgius Agricola publishes De re Metallica, which describes the fire assay of gold during the Middle Ages.

1700 A.D. Gold is discovered in Brazil, which becomes the largest producer of gold by 1720, with nearly twothirds of the world’s output. Isaac Newton, as Master of the Mint, fixes the price of gold in Great Britain at 84 shillings, 11 & ½ pence per troy ounce. The Royal Commission, composed of Newton, John Locke, and Lord Somers, recommends a recall of all old currency, issuance of new specie with gold/silver ratio of 16-to-1.

The gold price thus established in Great Britain lasted for over 200 years.

1744 A.D. The resurgence of gold mining in Russia begins with the discovery of a quartz outcrop in Ekaterinburg.

1787 A.D. First U.S. gold coin is struck by Ephraim Brasher, a goldsmith.

1792 A.D. The Coinage Act places the United States on a bimetallic silver-gold standard, and defines the U.S. dollar as equivalent to 24.75 grains of fine gold and 371.25 grains of fine silver.

1799 A.D. A 17-pound gold nugget is found in Cabarrus County, North Carolina, the first documented gold discovery in the United States.

1803 A.D. Gold is discovered at Little Meadow Creek, North Carolina, sparking the first U.S. gold rush.

1804 A.D. –1828 A.D. North Carolina supplies all the domestic gold coined by the U.S. Mint in Philadelphia for currency.

1816 A.D. Great Britain officially ties the pound to a specific quantity of gold at which British currency is convertible.

1817 A.D. Britain introduces the Sovereign, a small gold coin valued at one pound sterling

1830 A.D. Heinrich G. Kuhn announces his discovery of the formula for fired-on Glanz (bright) Gold. It makes Meissen gold-decorated china world famous.

1837 A.D. The weight of gold in the U.S. dollar is lessened to 23.22 grains so that one fine troy ounce of gold is valued at $20.67.

1848 A.D. John Marshall finds flakes of gold while building a sawmill for John Sutter near Sacramento, California, triggering the California Gold Rush and hastening the settlement of the American West.

1850 A.D. Edward Hammong Hargraves, returning to Australia from California, predicts he will find gold in his home country in one week. He discovered gold in New South Wales within one week of landing.

1859 A.D. Comstock lode of gold and silver is struck in Nevada.

1862 A.D. Latin Monetary Union is established setting fineness, weight, size, and denomination of silver and gold coins of France, Italy, Belgium and Switzerland (and Greece in 1868) and obligating all to accept each other’s current gold and silver coins as full legal tender.

1868 A.D. George Harrison, while digging up stones to build a house, discovers gold in South Africa – since then, the source of nearly 40% of all gold ever mined.

1873 A.D. As a result of ongoing revisions to minting and coinage laws, silver is eliminated as a standard of value, and the United States goes on an unofficial gold standard.

1887 A.D. A British patent is issued to John Steward MacArthur for the cyanidation process for recovering gold from ore. The process results in a doubling of world gold output over the next twenty years.

1896 A.D. William Jennings Bryan delivers his famous “Cross of Gold” speech at the Democratic national convention, urging a return to bimetallism. The speech gains him the party’s presidential nomination, but he loses in the general election to William McKinley.

1898 A.D. Two prospectors discover gold while fishing in Klondike, Canada, spawning the last gold rush of the century.

1900 A.D. The Gold Standard Act places the United States officially on the gold standard, committing the United States to maintain a fixed exchange rate in relation to other countries on the gold standard.

1903 A.D. The Engelhard Corporation introduces an organic medium to print gold on surfaces. First used for decoration, the medium becomes the foundation for microcircuit printing technology.

1913 A.D. Federal Reserve Act specifies that Federal Reserve Notes be backed 40% in gold.

1914 A.D. – 1919 A.D. A strict gold standard is suspended by several countries, including United States and Great Britain , during World War I.

1925 A.D. Great Britain returns to a gold bullion standard, with currency redeemable for 400-ounce gold bullion bars but no circulation of gold coins.

1927 A.D. An extensive medical study conducted in France proves gold to be valuable in the treatment of rheumatoid arthritis.

1931 A.D. Great Britain abandons the gold bullion standard.

1933 A.D. To alleviate the banking panic, President Franklin D. Roosevelt prohibits private holdings of all gold coins, bullion, and certificates.

1934 A.D. The Gold Reserve Act of 1934 gives the government the permanent title to all monetary gold and halts the minting of gold coins. It also allows gold certificates to be held only by the Federal Reserve Banks, putting the U.S. on a limited gold bullion standard, under which redemption in gold is restricted to dollars held by foreign central banks and licensed private users. President Roosevelt reduces the dollar by increasing the price of gold to $35 per ounce.

1935 A.D. Western Electric Alloy #1 (69% gold, 25% silver, and 6% platinum) finds universal use in all switching contacts for AT&T telecommunications equipment.

1937 A.D. The bullion depository at Fort Knox, Kentucky, is opened.

1942 A.D. President Franklin D. Roosevelt issues a presidential edict closing all U.S. gold mines.

1944 A.D. The Bretton Woods agreement, ratified by the U.S. Congress in 1945, establishes a gold exchange standard and two new international organizations, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank. The new standard involves setting par values for currencies in terms of gold and the obligation of member countries to convert foreign official holdings of their currencies into gold at these par values.

1945 A.D. Gold-backing of Federal Reserve Notes is reduced by 25.5%

1947 A.D. The first transistor is assembled at AT&T Bell Laboratories. The device uses gold contacts pressed into a germanium surface.

1954 A.D. London gold market, closed early in World War II, reopens.

1960 A.D. AT&T Bell Laboratories is granted the first patent for the invention of the laser. The device uses carefully positioned gold-coated mirrors to maximize infrared reflection into the lasing crystal. The European Rheumatism Council confirms intravenously administered gold is an effective treatment for rheumatoid arthritis.

1961 A.D. Americans are forbidden to own gold abroad as well as athome. The central banks of Belgium, France, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland, West Germany, the United Kingdom and the United States form the London Gold Pool and agree to buy and sell at $35.0875 per ounce.

1965 A.D. Col. Edward White makes the first space walk during the Gemini IV mission, using a gold-coated visor to protect his eyes from direct sunlight. Gold-coated visors remain a standard safety feature for astronaut excursions.

1967 A.D. South Africa produces the first Krugerrand. This 1- ounce bullion coin becomes a favorite of individual investors around the world.

1968 A.D. London Gold Market closes for two weeks after a sudden surge in the demand for gold.

The governors of the central banks in the gold pool announce they will no longer buy and sell gold in the private market. A two-tier pricing system emerges: official transactions between monetary authorities are to be conducted at an unchanged price of $35 per fine troy ounce, and other U.S. Mint terminates policy of buying gold from and selling gold to those licensed by the U.S. Treasury to hold gold. Gold-backing of Federal Reserve Notes is eliminated. Intel introduces a microchip with 1,024 transistors interconnected with invisibly small gold circuits.

1970 A.D. The charge-coupled device is invented at Bell Telephone Laboratories. First used to record the faint light from stars, the device, which uses gold to collect the electrons generated by light, eventually is used in hundreds of civilian and military devices, including home video cameras.

1971 A.D. On August 15, U.S. terminates all gold sales or purchases, thereby ending conversion of foreign officially held dollars into gold; in December, under the Smithsonian Agreement signed in Washington, U.S. devalues the dollar by raisin g the official dollar price of gold to $38 per fine troy ounce. The colloidal gold marker system is introduced by Amersham Corporation of Illinois. Tiny spheres of gold are used in health research laboratories worldwide to mark or tag specific proteins to reveal their function in the human body for the treatment of disease.

1973 A.D. On February 13, U.S. devalues the dollar again and announces it will raise the official dollar price of gold to $42.22 per fine troy ounce. Dollar-selling continues, and finally all currencies are allowed to “float” freely, without regard to the price of gold. By June, the market price in London has risen to more than $120 per ounce. Japan lifts prohibition on imports of gold.

1974 A.D. Americans permitted to own gold, other than just jewelry, as of December 31.

1975 A.D. The U.S. Treasury holds a series of auctions at which is accepts bids for gold in the form of 400-ounce bars. In January, 754,000 troy ounces are sold and another 499,500 more in June.

1975 A.D. Trading in gold for future delivery begins on New York’s Commodity Exchange and on Chicago’s International Monetary Market and Board of Trade. The Krugerrand is launched on to the U.S. Market.

1976 A.D. The Gold Institute is established to promote the common business interests of the gold industry by providing statistical data and other relevant information to its members, the media, and the public, while also acting as an industry spokesperson.

1976 A.D. –1980 A.D. IMF sells one-third of its gold holdings, 25 million troy ounces to IMF members at SDR 35/ounce in proportion to members’ shares of quotas on August 31, 1975, and 25 million troy ounces at a series of public auctions for the benefit of developing member countries.

1978 A.D. - 1980 A.D. U.S. Treasury sells 15.8 million troy ounces of gold to strengthen the U.S. trade balance.

1978 A.D. Amended IMF articles are adopted, abolishing the official IMF price of gold, gold convertibility and maintenance of gold value obligations; gold is eliminated as a significant instrument in IMF transactions with members; and the IMF is empowered to dispose of its large gold holdings. By Act of Congress, the U.S. abolishes the official price of gold. Member governments are free to buy and sell gold in private markets.

1978 A.D. A weak U.S. dollar propels interest in gold, aided by such events as the U.S. recognition of Communist China, events in Iran and Sino-Vietnamese border disturbances. U.S. Congress passes the American Arts Gold Medallion Act, representing the first official issue of a gold piece for sale to individuals in almost half a century. Japan lifts ban on gold exports, touching off a “gold rush” among investors who can sell as well as buy.

1979 A.D. The Canadian 1-ounce Maple Leaf is introduced.

1980 A.D. Gold reaches intra-day historic high of $870 on January 21 in New York and by year-end closes at $591.

1981 A.D. Treasury Secretary Donald Regan announces the formation of a Gold Commission “to assess and make recommendations with regard to the policy of the U.S. government concerning the role of gold in domestic and international monetary systems.” The first space shuttle is launched, using gold-coatedimpellers in its liquid hydrogen fuel pump.

1982 A.D. Congress passes Olympic Commemorative Coin Act, which includes issuing the first legal tender U.S. gold coin since 1933.

1982 A.D. U.S. Gold Commission report recommends no new monetary role for gold, but supports a U.S. gold bullion coin. New gold deposits are discovered in North America and Australia. Canada introduces the fractional Maple Leaf coins in sizes of 1/4 ounce and 1/10 ounce. China introduces the Panda bullion coin.

1986 A.D. The first new gold jewelry alloy this century, 990- Gold (1% titanium) is introduced to meet the need for an improved durability of 99% pure gold traditionally manufactured in Hong Kong. The very malleable alloy is easily worked into intricate design, but can be converted into a hard, durable alloy by simply heating it in an oven. The American Eagle Gold Bullion Coin is introduced by the U.S. Mint. Treasury resumes purchases of newly mined gold. Goldcorp Australia issues the Nugget gold bullion coin. Gold-coated compact discs are introduced. The goldcoated discs provide perfection of reflective surfaces, eliminate pinholes common to aluminum surfaces, and exclude any possibility of oxidative deterioration of the surfaces.

1987 A.D. British Royal Mint introduces the Britannia Gold Bullion Coin. World stock markets suffer sharp reversal on October 19; volatile investment markets increase gold trading activity. The World Gold Council is established to sustain and develop demand for the end uses of gold.

1988 A.D. The international media report huge gold purchases by a “mystery” buyer, later reveled to be the Japanese government in preparation for the minting of a major commemorative coin. This coin, honoring the sixtieth anniversary of Emperor Hirohito’s reign, is issued in November.

1989 A.D. Austria introduces the Philharmoniker bullion coin.

1990 A.D. United States becomes the world’s second largest gold producing nation.

1992 A.D. World Gold Council introduces the Gold Mark as an international identification mark for gold jewelry

1993 A.D. Germany lifts its value added tax restrictions on financial gold, causing a resurgence of private demand of gold. India and Turkey liberalize their gold markets.

1994 A.D. Russia formally establishes a domestic gold market.

1996 A.D. The Mars Global Surveyor is launched with an onboard gold-coated parabolic telescope-mirror that will generate a detailed map of the entire Martian surface over a two-year period.

1997 A.D. Congress passes Taxpayers Relief Act, allowing US Individual Retirement Account holders to buy gold bullion coins and bars for their accounts as long as they are of a fineness equal to, or exceeding, 99.5% percent gold.

1999 A.D. The Euro, a pan-European currency, is introduced, backed by a new European Central Bank holding 15% of its reserves in gold.

2000 A.D. Astronomers at the Keck Observatory in Hawaii use the giant gold-coated mirrors of the most detailed images of Neptune and Uranus ever captured.

2002 A.D. The Gold Institute’s Board of Directors votes to dissolve the association and consolidate its activities within the National Mining Association, effective January 1, 2003. The decision was made against the backdrop of consolidation in the gold sector and changes in the general business climate.

Oct 27, 2011 - 10:13pm

Ni/H Reactor

I know enough about this to be dangerous. I'm sure not a nuclear physicist, but I know enough about atomic structure and energy states that the concept of a "back door" to a nuclear reaction within the nucleus of an atom is not out of the realm of possibility. But just the thought of an actual fusion reaction (or even fission) reaction being able to produce ~3 kw/cu ft. with very little beta, alpha, or gamma radiation just seems "TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE". And you know what the rule about that is. If this is for real, no one will be able to suppress it for long. Someone will do all they have to to make a buck off it and it will "hit the stores" eventually. Perhaps we will get to the point (as A.C. Clarke speculated) where our problem won't be so much as where to get the energy we need, but what to do with all the waste heat being generated.

Again, a problem TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE.

Here's my one thought before the test. If the device is so simple, why didn't someone come up with it before? Or is it such a drastic change of a paradigm, that no one could have possibly thought of it until now?

Oh, and one more thing I must add. If it works, VIVA ITALIA!!! Long live the sons of Volta, Marconi, and Fermi!!! (so says the wop).

Oct 27, 2011 - 10:21pm


You forgot the Genoa Conferences! 1922 reversed the one from ~500 yrs before to settle foreign balance sheets. Paper gold vs real gold flows.


Eric Original
Oct 27, 2011 - 10:22pm

Nice quick edit there, DPH!

Nice quick edit there, DPH!

Oct 27, 2011 - 10:25pm

Eric O'

Friggin' eagle eyes (AGE's of course) or what??? Wow, I'm impressed. I had a hard enough time scanning through all the lines just finding what you found.

But then again you are a gold rush historian of sorts. BTW...Nice gold coins I saw posted earlier...(drool!)

Did I fix the Canada error in the right place? That took me about 30 minutes to C&P little bits and pieces of each date from somewhere and assemble it. It kind of sucked actually but once I got partially into it then there was no turning back.

I've never seen a concise timeline except for written stories of era's and very specific periods so that shortened aspect of it is nice. The span from 2002 to present is what I'm looking for but in a concise way. Just came back from a walk and I'm a bit de-energized and looking for a nightly tune after a nice green market day.

Eric Original
Oct 27, 2011 - 10:29pm


The 300BC reference to alchemy is quite topical, since we are also talking about how some Italian guys are turning Nickel into Copper.

Oct 27, 2011 - 10:30pm

False flag or the truth? The rhetoric is getting louder...

China Suspected in U.S. Satellite Hacking Attacks By Tony Capaccio and Jeff Bliss - Oct 27, 2011 12:01 AM ETThu Oct 27 04:01:51 GMT 2011

Computer hackers, possibly from the Chinese military, interfered with two U.S. government satellites four times in 2007 and 2008 through a ground station in Norway, according to a congressional commission.

The intrusions on the satellites, used for earth climate and terrain observation, underscore the potential danger posed by hackers, according to excerpts from the final draft of the annual report by the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission. The report is scheduled to be released next month.

“Such interference poses numerous potential threats, particularly if achieved against satellites with more sensitive functions,” according to the draft. “Access to a satellite‘s controls could allow an attacker to damage or destroy the satellite. An attacker could also deny or degrade as well as forge or otherwise manipulate the satellite’s transmission.”

A Landsat-7 earth observation satellite system experienced 12 or more minutes of interference in October 2007 and July 2008, according to the report.

Hackers interfered with a Terra AM-1 earth observation satellite twice, for two minutes in June 2008 and nine minutes in October that year, the draft says, citing a closed-door U.S. Air Force briefing.

The draft report doesn’t elaborate on the nature of the hackers’ interference with the satellites.

Chinese Military Writings

U.S. military and intelligence agencies use satellites to communicate, collect intelligence and conduct reconnaissance. The draft doesn’t accuse the Chinese government of conducting or sponsoring the four attacks. It says the breaches are consistent with Chinese military writings that advocate disabling an enemy’s space systems, and particularly “ground-based infrastructure, such as satellite control facilities.”

U.S. authorities for years have accused the Chinese government of ...

Oct 27, 2011 - 10:35pm

Econ Disaster

That video is hilarious....but I think you're asking for trouble. Truth is many Canadians don't even know stuff about Canada, like who the first prime minister was or being able to name the provinces. The U.S. and Canada perhaps somewhat less, have been badly dumbed down. However Canada is quickly catching up to its neighbor.

Oct 27, 2011 - 10:36pm

Uncle Fester

Thanks. All of you pretty much amaze me at times with the various quick and accurate responses.

I tried sneaking your date in there but the time limit thing kicked in.

Oct 27, 2011 - 10:38pm

new thread

new thread

Eric Original
Oct 27, 2011 - 10:54pm

Yeah, right place, almost..

Great job overall. You put that together? Nice! I just assumed you copied off the web, silly me.

Not sure where you got the fishing part. As far as I know those guys were definitely looking for the shiny. Oh, and they made the discovery in 1896. It took a while for word to get out from such remote parts and the stampede didn't really get huge until 1898.

Yeah, I'm kind of a Klondike geek. My favorite books on it are by the Berton's. One by Pierre on the gold rush proper, and one by his mother Laura on the years following.

I wouldn't say just "Klondike" as it wasn't a proper place name, just a name of a river in the area. The area as a whole is generally referred as "the Klondike". You might say "the Klondike, Yukon Territory, Canada"

OK, I'll stop nitpicking now. You did a great job.

lakemike49 Shill
Oct 27, 2011 - 11:16pm


sorry i could not finish my thought.

I don't know how to delete

Monedas dabrini
Oct 27, 2011 - 11:48pm

@ dabrini - my Pd dreams are over ?

Thanks to all who posted on Cold Fusion ! Palladium still has plenty of uses and is hanging in there and is rare ! Monedas 2011 I bought Pd years ago for not much over $100 per ounce, so can't complain, but I was hoping to make it big and buy Rhode Island then move every one off !

Bobbejaan Maryann
Oct 27, 2011 - 11:50pm

Quote:Ok, Cpn, Shill, and all

Ok, Cpn, Shill, and all the rest of you (except maybe Uncle)....all I can say is your presentation skills just must be off because there are plenty of us females (I'm not blonde but I'm sure there are plenty who are) who do get it and if we don't, well, we just need education.....
I cannot tell a lie, I did NOT chop down the cherry tree .... but my wife WAS buying silver & telling me it was WAY too cheap for several years BEFORE I became fully enlightened as to its potential for our family's long term security.


It's a fair cop, Guv'ner !

Oct 28, 2011 - 12:09am


Wow, that is awesome. You definitely have a keeper. My wife is on board in full as well. How lucky are we ;)


Bobbejaan backseatdriver
Oct 28, 2011 - 12:21am


How lucky are we ;)
Too True, Squire, Too True!!
GoldenTurds GoldenTurds
Oct 31, 2011 - 4:07pm

spy puts

My SPY put up 24% today since Thursday. I should have sold today, but the bad news just keeps coming on ZH.

Thanks Turds for all your efforts!!


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