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Sun, Mar 15, 2020 - 12:16pm

Things are moving fast and the Friday podcast thread is nearing a comment overload. So I thought I should start the week with this new post...and make it public for all to read. Please try to share relevant information and updates through the comments section as we are all in this together.

Not sure where to start so I guess we'll begin with the pandemic stuff. A couple of things:

  • From what I've read, it appears that the Case Fatality Rate is higher than thought a few days ago. This is a very concerning development.
  • You DO NOT want to contract the virus, regardless of your age. There are now reports of people as young as 16 being intubated and placed into a medically-induced coma. None of this "might as well get it and get it over with stuff". NOW is the time to begin your own efforts of self-quarantine and social distancing.
  • And self-quarantine is about the only remaining method of controlling the spread. Yesterday, I saw several "suggestions" "asking" people to do this from city and state officials around the US. By later this week, it's very likely these will not just be "suggestions". So, if you need to go somewhere or do anything, don't put it off. The window of free/unlimited travel is closing.

On to the metals....

It is quite clear that the Thursday-Friday attack on Comex Digital Gold was an orchestrated, deliberate event courtesy of the Bullion Banks. As we discussed in Friday's podcast, there is precedent for this type of thing so it's not as if we should be surprised by what happened.

The tell-tale that huge manipulated hit was coming on Friday after the Comex floor opened (see the chart) was the record level of PNT/EFP transactions on Thursday preceded by a price ambush of gold on the LBMA p.m. price fix Thursday.

— Dave Kranzler (@InvResDynamics) March 15, 2020

And recall this link that was revealed by Wikileaks a few years ago. This cable clearly describes the intentions behind creating a gold futures market on 12/31/74. Note the cable was published on 12/10/74: https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/1974LONDON16154_b.html

From that cable, the MOST IMPORTANT POINT is underlined below. Read this and then perhaps better comprehend WHY prices were raided so severely last week:

And someone sent me this, too. Here's Trump's closest economic advisor discussing gold in an article from March of 2001:

So EXPECT more official and Bullion Bank intervention tonight and this week.

However, reports are now rampant of exhausted supply of physical metal at both the retail and wholesale level. All of this simply underscores what we've always told you. Namely, that price is determined through the supply and demand of the digital derivatives and futures contracts...NOT the supply and demand of actual physical metal.

On the bright side, as premiums widen and readily-available supplies evaporate, maybe more "experts" and "analysts" will finally come to understand the FRAUD and SCAM of the current digital derivative and fractional reserve pricing scheme. That cable linked above certainly lays this out quite clearly. How anyone willingly fails to understand this is beyond me.

Last week 20% of avg OI went into #EFPs. So in 5 days 122k EFPs were exchanged 'supposedly' for 382t of physical metal, or 11% of annual production. Not possible. Inexperienced are accepting paper promises from banks instead of metal. Do not be one of them. Own physical #gold. pic.twitter.com/yVtZ59nKVD

— James Turk (@FGMR) March 15, 2020

The U.S. Mint announced Thursday that it has temporarily sold out of American Eagle Silver Eagle Bullion coins. Our rate of sale in just the first part of March exceeds 300% of what was sold last month,” the Mint said #coronapocolypse #coronavirus #gold #silver #safehaven #bars pic.twitter.com/gL4puiclvY

— Contrarian (@OfficialMining) March 15, 2020

1/n - Firstly, an apology. I should've been quicker to realise what was happening. The penny dropped yesterday when I looked at prices of physical gold and silver. They haven't been smashed. Not only that, but demand has sky-rocketed and suppliers can't keep up. The gap...

— Northstar (@Northst18363337) March 15, 2020

Already extreme premiums rising from just last night, i.e. over the weekend. Masses are waking up imho. https://t.co/Y24OmVBS5r

— David Brady (@GlobalProTrader) March 15, 2020

UK's #1 Online Bullion Dealer selling a 1oz Silver "Bar" at a premium of 7% to a Silver Maple Leaf "coin" from Sprott Money (which incl own spread!) when adj'd for exchange current exch rates. And this assumes the cheapest price of 14.60 pounds for 1000oz total! So spread ~10%+!! pic.twitter.com/MeMlDdEJs0

— David Brady (@GlobalProTrader) March 15, 2020

JNUG gets a forced redemption. Which means they have to sell GDXJ, which is a big holding of GDX, which in turns holds a number of individual miners. There is no thinking involved.
Purely mechanical.
Need Cash = Sell
Could just as easily have been traditional equity or FI. https://t.co/TkM0I80lqD

— Santiago Capital (@SantiagoAuFund) March 14, 2020

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Lastly, as the Northstar guy mentioned in his tweet...I, too, am profoundly disappointed that I did not warn everyone better regarding the potential of a Bank attack last week. Yes, we stated our concerns last Tuesday but I thought the current situation it would make it too difficult for them to get away with it at this time. Wrong.

That said, the FAR MORE IMPORTANT thing right now is preparation for lockdown. We first discussed this possibility seven weeks ago (my gosh, was it really that long ago?) with Chris Martenson. Nearly everything Chris warned about back then has come to pass so perhaps today you might go back and listen again. As you know, Chris has posted video updates to his YouTube account nearly every day since. You should be sure to monitor that page, too.

DO NOT be surprised if the Comex metals open lower still when things get going again this evening at 6:00 pm EDT. It's going to be LONG and wildly UNPREDICTABLE week with the only certainty being FOMC "fedlines" and Powell press conference like nothing we've ever seen before on Wednesday.

And PLEASE use today wisely. It will likely become imperative (and you may not be given a choice) that you lock down at home...maybe all of the way to mid-April. I pray you've heeded our advice since January to make the sort of personal preparations that will be needed to manage this extraordinary circumstance. If not...it's NOT too late to formulate a plan and secure the supplies you need. Just yesterday, I found plenty of elderberry gummies and other "immune support" supplies at my local Walgreen's. ATMs still have the physical cash you may need and food stocks are still plentiful, too...though you might wait until early tomorrow morning to make another run to the market after shelves are restocked overnight.

Again, use this time wisely and, as always, prepare accordingly.

TF

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Benitho
Mar 16, 2020 - 5:22am

The paper...

...version of silver will be free any minute now. Down over 10% from the rate cut.

tonym9
Mar 16, 2020 - 5:03am

No bootlift for gold and poor

No bootlift for gold and poor silver has just been slammed again.

At a minimum gold should be up from 10ish days ago, by a good %.

If the dealers dont raise premiums by a good %, the comex banker club wins the most decisive battle ever.

If gold cant go up in this environment when does it?

Just uneffnbelievable

13.71

1535

happycamper515
Mar 16, 2020 - 4:08am

$13.99 silver is here. BS.

Edit: $13.82 silver is here. Down 6%. BS.

robobrewer
Mar 16, 2020 - 3:34am

Silver is getting crushed in Europe

This is awful and the world had gone insane.

happycamper515
Mar 16, 2020 - 3:15am

Not sure what the bear market

Not sure what the bear market low for silver was but we've got to be close. A 13-handle by the morning may not be out of the question. Total utter BS.

robobrewerLP
Mar 16, 2020 - 3:00am

Reply: Restaurants Closing Another Short-sighted Panic Move

Thank you LP.

IMO, Corona virus has been circulating through the population since at least December. I have spoken to 2 people who claim to have had the exact symptoms as described by the CDC, in December. If the virus has been here 3 months where are all the overloaded IC units? Where are the deaths and masses of causalities being found dead in their homes?

I believe we are being played.

This is looking so orchestrated. All the scary stuff is online and in the media. Who here has seen any of the supposed horrors of this virus for real? I hope none of us have or ever will!

Some fellow members who have contacted me have gotten pretty sick, but thankfully they are ok now.

Based upon the symptoms listed on the CDC website I, numerous friends, and people I have spoken with have all had it with NO severe complications. One guy I spoke with who had it in December went to the hospital and they said it is not bronchitis but they also cant identify it.

I have a friend in her late 70 who has had it for over a week and thank the universe, she says she is doing ok.

My mom in NYC has it and she also is telling me she is doing fine although she has a a heart valve condition and so I worry about that. She has said that her heart has raced at times.

I absolutely am not criticizing any of my fellow members here. I don't walk in your shoes and we all must do what each of us feels is best.

I just have a different view on things based upon my personal experiences with what I have actually seen, heard, and felt. That is what I trust most.

Good luck to all of us because we sure need it in these "interesting" times!

Dr. P. Metals
Mar 16, 2020 - 2:50am

Monday could be epically red

Unless something changes.

It'stheBankers
Mar 16, 2020 - 2:34am
Craigo
Mar 16, 2020 - 2:25am

Oz market crash today

Evening all,

The Oz market (All Ordinaries) finished down a whopping 13% just over an hour ago. We are very much linked to your pre-market so I'd be expecting a Dow slaughter on Monday.

Our miners finished down 10-15% or thereabouts so I wouldn't be too optimistic about any rally just yet.

Went to our local supermarket here in Perth today and crowds were doing the grasshopper thing and devouring everything in sight. Now we have the 'bug' well and truly...no pun intended. I just feel so sorry for the elderly I saw in the long queues who had a look of confusion and desperation in their eyes. In my 62 years, I've never seen a situation like this before.

We call ourselves 'The Lucky Country' here but after what I witnessed today, I'm not so sure any more.

Dr. P. MetalsGasivs Buttox
Mar 16, 2020 - 2:06am

That’s funny

When I eat at home more often I tend to lose weight and the dogs gain weight (they are awfully good and cute and persistent beggars)... 😳🤪😷😗

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