Thank you. Emotion + friday + a bandwagon = bad I guess.

Hubba hubba hubba, money money money, who do ya trust?

Turd would do well to encourage his readers to do their own due diligence, rather than taking insult at someone laying out a possible bad scenario.  We don't know the measures that he has taken to ensure that this is NOT a ponzi scheme, or that the back door of the vault opens up into JPMs vault or some such.  Blindly trusting the Turd's efforts at dd does not set a good precedent for future dealings.

Now, I listened to the podcast and read the site, but I still don't understand the mechanics behind purchases for immediate delivery, and had the immediate delivery option not been mentioned in this thread, I wouldn't have thought that that was even an option.

I read that someone upthread had dealt with these guys in the past, using their vaulting service, but has anyone ever bought anything from them for immediate delivery?  I am interested to know what their delivery fees are like, and get a breakdown of the total costs involved in getting silver from the time of order until it arrives at my house.

I am not, and never will be, interested in any vaulting service that advertises that they hold gold and silver for others, as those will be among the first targets in a confiscation scenario, and will be closely monitored for "money laundering".  But that is a personal preference, not an absolute, or even advise I would give out to the general population (preference is going to depend on your own situation, not just personal idiosyncracies).

But seriously, someone spell out the process for immediate delivery, including any minimums, fees, delivery times, maybe a list of items that are available, and the premiums (with the understanding that the last two items are subject to change).  That would be EXTREMELY helpful.

Give TF the benefit of the doubt and do some dd, then make an informed decision!

Sheesh, seems like no good deed goes unpunished around here sometimes.

Thanks for this service, TF!

Parts 2-5 here...

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=reggie+middleton+bullion+man...

and Hard Assets Alliance review...

And finally Turd's link...

http://www.hardassetsalliance.com/clk/cl/11/?affid=TFM&guid=&cid=

Cheers.

"And confidence in any program hemorrhaging $5 billion a quarter seems awful hard to come by..."

One needs to look at how that 5 billion a quarter was really acquired.........The 2006 administration put a death nail into the USPS by the requirement of funding the pension plan 75 years in advance.

It was a stupid move, they knew the ultimate outcome would kill the service through debt...........While the USPS has problems and is way over bloated, it worked, it was not perfect but it was one part of the gooberment that worked as intended.......until Bush's head got in the way.

This was another front and center manipulation move to kill an otherwise good product and 700,000 middle class jobs.

I didn't see that they delivered physical orders as well. I am sorry but I am not a big podcast listener, as I don't have 20 minute time slots free in my day often to sit down and listen through and through. Either way, congrats on setting up the partnership I sincerely hope it supplements your income, as I feel you truly deserve it. I have no hard feelings for you Turd, I understand that the amount of criticism you bear has hardened you. I guess I was just sincerely skeptical as from what I could tell in a quick lookover, it looked like this platform you are affiliated with was mostly centered on electronic trading of physical metal, rather than actually taking physical into your hand. Perhaps for the very wealthy turdites here this makes sense, but for a small stacker such as myself, this service looks pretty much entirely irrelevant. When SHTF, how am I going to get to Zurich to get my 800 ounces of silver out?

I understand now that they also provide physical delivery, but it just didn't seem like the selling point of the service, whatsoever, and the landing page was more of a sales-page format than product:price list like what I am used to. Just my two cents, please don't take it as an attack on you as you should know by now I am a long time fan of yours...

Vast volcanic 'raft' found in Pacific, near New Zealand

A vast "raft" of volcanic rocks covering 10,000 sq miles (26,000 sq km) of ocean has been spotted by a New Zealand military aircraft.

A naval ship was forced to change course in order to avoid the cluster of buoyant rocks, located 1,000 miles off the New Zealand coast.

The unusual phenomenon was probably the result of pumice being released from an underwater volcano, experts said.

One navy officer described it as the "weirdest thing" he had seen at sea.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19207810

To each their own and please excuse me if I don't trust my own mother to hold fast onto the goods, when the dollar is replaced and the shtf, when the chaos in the big cities comes, if you don't hold your own goods, you don't own it, and you will not be taking delivery of anything that would draw attention to that ownership (IRS) and here in the American republic because the FEMA camp is only a kerns throw away, we already know that most lack the will, and just about everyone will not have the time. Better to hold it in such a way that in the coming months and years if you and yours meet an untimely demise your goods return to the Creator God who made them in the first place.

I can understand my fellow Turdites having questions regarding a new service, but to instantaneously jump to a strong conclusion without a lot of facts defeats the idea of our community.  The Way Something is Said is just as Important as What is Being Said...  Turd has earned a level of respect and has consistently shown his commitment to doing detailed analysis on everything he does....  Is Turd perfect?  No  Should you do your own Due Diligence?  Yes, absolutely.... but we should approach this like we are talking to a friend... and we should try to ask our questions the way we would want to be engaged.  I am reaching out to you because I don't agree with some members within the community are so quick to launch... rather than ask in a thoughtful way.  Again, you don't have to look at anything that Turd is presenting and you don't have to engage or believe.... I, though, would challenge us all to put our best foot forward as I believe Turd always tries to do...  :-)

I am not interested in the service Turd in offering.  I'm a small time stacker and I can still (barely) lift my stack with one hand, but if I were looking for this type of thing, Turd's endorsement would definitely tip the scales for me.  

Focusing on "how something is said" is for those that "want the delusion" (SRS). Tell me honestly which is ultimately correct:

a: 1+1=2 you godda**ed motherf*cker

b. 1+1=potato you nice gentleman

The nice thing about being a successful civil engineer is I don't sell a thing and don't need to. Our work speaks for and sells itself. And when we are presented a problem, we don't waste time with sunshine and backscratching. In other words, we don't bullshit and we don't lie. Bad things happen with real consequences and dead things when that happens. Granted I'm a love her/hate her type of girl but I'd rather that than an ass-kissing circlejerk any day. FWIW.

Still, your point is well taken regarding treating others as you would a friend. Our circle of friends expect this sometimes brutal honesty because of the consequences associated with complacency. Others want kid gloves, ultimately at their own peril.

Yeah babies, I'm back.   Got tired-eyed from reading and decided to take a nap in prep for tonight.   Woke up and looked at the new thread posts and what do I see, Me.  That is, my body dancing on the screen.  Heads all different but, come on !

Foggyroad, you been video-taping me dancing through my bedroom window ?

I'll sick my kitty on you !

I worked in one of the dull firms you're describing for the first 5 years. I have been a CivE for about 20 years and you know nothing of what we do or how we do it. Sorry that you have to work so hard pleasing your brand of "client". It's much better to have clients and coworkers with no ego. But we explicitly screen for such character flaws.

PS @Be Prepared & jaw: we don't actually talk that way. It was strictly an example to measure objective reasoning and similar to one put on one of our firms screening tests for a Tech we hired last year.

Too dead around here for my blood.   Heading down to the boop-tube room and watch some John Wayne.

See all you turds tomorrow.

That every time someone steps up to the plate to do something right and good, all the naysayers line up to tell one why they shouldn't do it.  Watch out for the naysayers who jump to wild conclusions without evidence. 

Yeah, freedom of speech is a right, and it is great that Turd allows it here, but it is a measure of character where and when someone exercises that right.

Thanks for the referral Turd, I'll check it out.

I, for one, will certainly give your affiliation strong consideration for my next phys purchase.  Congrats on yet another milestone.  And thanks for doing the things necessary to keep the site free.

FW