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Speaking of nonfarm

Speaking of nonfarm payrolls:

http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2012/02/01/bulls-like-to-run-ahead-of-mo...

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good comments about GDX going in to the last 20 minutes or so. S&P sold down into close and someone was getting out. Who knows?

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Looks like we're all in the same boat

Let's hope it doesn't sink ;)

Fortunately, we all seem to be opting for the life raft presently so we should be okay.  Hu knows what the really big players are up to, but it feels like all the biggishes, mids and smalls that wanted to buy this particular rally have already bought.

In this type of environment, I'll always let some ride.  One more thrust to 1750-60/34-34.25 and then a healthy cleansing pullback to strong support (1705-1680/32-30) would be awesome from my perspective.

As always, I'll probably buy well in advance of these levels.  Jack be nimble.

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I try as best I can to have

I try as best I can to have some idea of where the market is going in the next 12-24 hours so that I can buy/sell accordingly.  Often impossible but  probabilities always exist.  Usually true about life anyway, so why not with trading?

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Still just sitting.

I did lighten before the Globex close to pull some monthly profits out of my futures account, but otherwise I'm sitting on my longs.

I'm feeling bullish for the next 24 hours.

My modest stock account continues to go up day after day.  This is very bullish for gold and silver, if you asked me.  (PVG, SVN, TRX, GG, AG).  I don't trade miners really, but just loaded up when the HUI was around 500.  These stocks have definitely out performed the HUI this month.  I'm not sure about how they compare to the GDXJ, but I'd guess they beat that too.  (I'm no expert on stock picking, that's for sure.)

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Hi Titus

I have only ever traded miners, mostly junior.  Used to have a lengthy list, now I've pared it down to a handful.  After all if the sector is going a certain direction, no reason to pay the extra trading charges and the average gains do exactly that average out.

I know most would say that's a piss poor way to trade, but it has worked out for me thus far.  It just means keeping your eye on all matters pertaining to the market more.

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http://online.wsj.com/article

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020474090457719662277168208...

Here's the possible forecast for a drop in the metals tomorrow. 

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Daily Pivot Points
Name S3 S2 S1 Pivot Points R1 R2 R3
Classic 1719.25 1727.35 1737.75 1745.85 1756.25 1764.35 1774.75
Name S3 S2 S1 Pivot Points R1 R2 R3
Classic 32.34 32.71 33.25 33.62 34.16 34.53 35.08

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On the road, driving through

On the road, driving through the 60 degree Midwest, I sold my LNG ($ 12.74) at damn near the same time as SW.

Great minds, my friend. But I got you by a penny!

Funny quote from Franklin Sanders tonight:

"Y'all are going to look back one of these days and tell your children, "You know, once upon a time I had a chance to buy silver at thirty-four dollars!" They'll look at you in wonderment, and then ask, "Grandpappy, what's a dollar?""

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On the road, driving through

On the road, driving through the 60 degree Midwest, I sold my LNG ($ 12.74) at damn near the same time as SW.

Great minds, my friend. But I got you by a penny!

Funny quote from Franklin Sanders tonight:

"Y'all are going to look back one of these days and tell your children, "You know, once upon a time I had a chance to buy silver at thirty-four dollars!" They'll look at you in wonderment, and then ask, "Grandpappy, what's a dollar?""

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Silver Elliot from Alf Fields

Not my area of expertise but I know you EW guys can dig into it and tell us what you think?

http://goldswitzerland.com/index.php/what-about-silver-alf-field-febr-2012/

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Hey Redwood

Hey Redwood, I was wondering what your list of junior miners is.  I just started trading about a month ago so I really don’t have any idea what I’m doing, all I know is that it’s an awful lot of fun.  My current strategy is to hold onto my miners, and then day trade mostly USLV and DSLV, though I also day trade other randoms, mostly found on recommendations here in Pailin’s room, thanks guys, especially whoever pointed out HGT, that was a good one for me, I picked up for 13.9? something.  I don’t day trade every day, usually depends on if I’m working from home or not and if I see anything enticing.  The three I’m currently holding long are Impact Silver, Sandstorm Gold, and Sandstorm Metals (I guess the Sandstorm ones are considered miners), with about 70% of what I hold in Impact Silver.  I currently have most my day trading funds in USLV, I picked up yesterday 47.00, if silver hits 32.75 tomorrow I plan to double down.  I’ve also been watching Tinka and Rye Patch.  I’m also looking to add some drilling, the only one I can find is Energold(they are biggest shareholder of Impact), anyone know of any other  drilling companies?

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I'll share first what I have traded in the past (most are juniors, some like SLW belong in different categories) with a good deal of success.  In order of strength of yields:

SLW warrants (there are several now) they are very remunerative, but fickle.  You've got to be on target or you can lose a ton, as I have.

SLW, FR (Cdn) or Ag(US), FR warrants (ditto above) DGC, EGU (bought out),ZJG, ZJG warrants, AGI, SVM, FVI, GBG, OSK NEM, ABX, GPR, SSRI, MSV,

Now I trade SLW, SLW warrants when I can get them at a good price, FR, SVM, DGC , AGQ and PSLV (not a miner).

Also I'm Canadian, so I trade on the TSX.

In a bull trend one doesn't have to be as discerning, when the bull is running many of these good miners light up green.  I have traded a few other stocks such as other metals, rare earths, but mostly these.  GL

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For those playing Santa's angel game

Santa's Angels

For those who play it, you might want to remember that Santa's next angel is $1764.

The "nearby" angels are:

  • $1764
  • $1681
  • $1650
  • $1600
  • $1521

That play worked pretty well since the last market bottom.  In particular:

  1. The bottom of the gold market in December was $1523.9.   (I think it is pretty fair to call that $1521.)
  2. The market went straight through $1600, which acted as support for a couple days.
  3. The market went up to $1650 which acted first as resistance, then as support.
  4. $1681 was resistance until the big FOMC day, which blew right through it.
  5. There's a pretty big step between $1681 and $1764.   We've been rising steady from one to the next.

I guess part of the strategy is to sell when rising towards an angel.

  • $1650 offered an OK selling opportunity, but there was not an opportunity to buy back near $1600.
  • There was a great opportunity to sell near $1681 and buy back near $1650, if you had the "constitution" to buy ahead of the FOMC meeting.

Buying a dip down near an angel has worked great since the market bottom.

  • Buying on dips close to $1521, $1600 and $1650 were all great opportunities.
  • There's been no dip yet (so far) to $1681.

Sorry I don't have the time to put together a chart.

Go ahead and poo-poo this if you like -- I won't stop you.

I don't understand how this voodoo works, but it certainly has worked well since the $1521 bottom.  In particular, it offered some very good buying opportunities!!!

How long will this constant up move continue?

Who knows how far gold and silver will continue to rise before some kind of serious correction/  We have not even seen a small correction yet in either gold or silver.  That does not mean they cannot continue to rise.

QE2 is said to have started in August of 2010.  Between July 28, 2010 and Oct 14, 2010, gold rose almost every day with only a very minor correction in the middle.  That is a full 2+1/2 months.

If QE3 has indeed started, how long will it continue?  Until March 15th, 2012?

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Titus

"Go ahead and poo-poo this if you like -- I won't stop you."

Au contraire, excellent review....going back to basics strengthens one's discipline.

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silver chart

we now have a decent little head and shoulders bottom in the silver chart, head  at  26,   neckline 34,  measured move calls 42.PROBABLY NEED TO CLOSE ABOVE 35 TO  VALIDATE IT.

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okay, here's my guess for the next few trading days

London open (or a little before) will see strong selling down to about 1730-20/33-32.75

A very strong buying surge starting approximately 2 hours before the NY open will then take prices to almost 1764/35 over the space of about 2 hours.

The PMs will then chop through the pit session and close about where they opened, fading on the globex.

Asia will muddle along tomorrow until there's a negative (PMs) news event or some such, causing a mini waterfall as stale longs take profits and new longs freak out.

Monday next week will also be negative, giving us our first proper pullback since Jan 1.  I will buy as and when I see a bottom forming.

Like redwood, I like to have an idea and work from there.  I'm down to holding a third now after taking some more off @ 1750/33.80 and will only act on what the tape tells me at any given moment.

Booked euro @ 1.32 again.  Long bond short and gas long running.

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Titus

Sinclair has explained that these angels have been mathematically derived, possibly by Alf Fields, but can't say for sure.  I'm sure its a logarithmic equation of some kind.   A  complex one probably.

Off to bed for another long day tomorrow.

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Simple Squares

No Redwood they aren't complex.

40 squared, 41 squared and on up from that (1650 is just a bonus one for some reason).

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@Redwood

The formula is very simple:

39 x 39 = 1521

40 x 40 = 1600

41 x 41 = 1681

42 x 42 = 1764

43 x 43 = 1849

etc.

I cannot, however, explain 1650 and some others.  So there must be some other factor or two in the equation.  I'm guessing that moving forward, the other factors are zero.

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