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good General

the General receives another star, for honor displayed on the line, restraining troops from foolish glory

maybe miners down today signals further downside in gold and silver. OE is Thursday if this is the case and Friday will then be a definite buy day.

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Thanks Redwood and SW but once again pure luck, just a guess, we were over due.

I am interested to see how this stock market pump resolves itself. The volume is atrocious, obvious pump with no one to dump it on.  If they don't get what they want out of FOMC news, (if that is enough to tip it over) it could become very ugly on the downside. I do not see how any stock, miners included escapes that. But would offer a tremendous buying opportunity for miners.

Who knows, maybe they can keep the charade up long enough until they finally get something to support it.

I can not see QE 3 being rolled out tomorrow but in the event it is, I would not want to be short anything. 

Turd thinks QE 3 is coming and sooner or later he is right. I think it is later.

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I expect to lighten gold again tonight

I'm waiting to lighten my gold position between 1am and 5am EST.  Not sure yet exactly when.

I'm hoping for a rise going into Asian hours.

Expecting like others pressure on gold and silver before and after FOMC and options expiration.

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Perfect intuition and timing. Good call Babe.

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What if this FOMC, OE is all

What if this FOMC, OE is all smoke and mirrors and silver sky rockets by week's end.  Usually when you see pullbacks like today, its what follows very soon thereafter.

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We have had a very gentle

We have had a very gentle pullback though, nothing aggressive.

It's the only reason I am still trading the price at the moment, simply because I do think that before it reaches that 34 area, we will retest the 29/30 mark, minimum. Simply because of all of the news buzzing around

I await being proven wrong of course.

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Daily Pivot Points
Name S3 S2 S1 Pivot Points R1 R2 R3
Classic 1640.95 1651.35 1659.15 1669.55 1677.35 1687.75 1695.55
Name S3 S2 S1 Pivot Points R1 R2 R3
Classic 31.25 31.56 31.85 32.16 32.45 32.76 33.05

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went long PMs

This morning at 1665/30.001, looking for a 1680-1700/32.80-33 by week's end.  Let's see how it shapes up.

A little worryingly, it looks to me as though the euro has stalled at 1.3050 so I got out at 1.3038 and will wait for 1.29ish to re-establish long.  Might not come back to me.  In which case I'll get more aggressively bullish about a push to 1.35-40.

The long bond looks like it's getting ready to bounce, probably all the way back up to 145 quicksmart - hmmmm.... if true, what does that tell us about QE3 prognosis?  F-ed if I know, but I'd venture to guess that the monetization of debt is going to continue unabated for some time yet ;)

I'm not going to buy bonds for the same reason I don't usually sell PMs - the trend is my friend.

Holding NG until 4.50-6.00... could take a while!

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sort-of news

“Recalling the sharp sell-offs in risk assets triggered by the Sept. 21 and Dec. 13 FOMC statement releases, we are mindful of unintended consequences,” Tim Condon, head of Asian economic research at ING Financial Markets Research, wrote in a note to clients.

Meanwhile, the euro EURUSD -0.08% eased to $1.3021, compared with $1.3026 late Tuesday, against the backdrop of unresolved talks between the Greek government and bondholders to restructure the nation’s debt.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-dollar-up-against-euro-yen-before-fomc-2012-01-24

and also...

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/can-gold-regain-its-glitter-2012-01-25?link=MW_story_latest_news

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Gurus

The chance of Gurus getting it right is about :>

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Here is a percentage rating list of them URL - Click image to download.

I note my beloved EW Prechter has an astounding accuracy of 23%!

It appears to be about a mix of those getting it right over 50% of the time at 

gurugrades-fig1.png?t=1327470457

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@6$silver going long...

I am not sure who said it, I think the credit of the move goes to SW, but try not to trade against the daily slow stochastics.  If you look you will see that buying at the bottom of the slow stochastics is a much better chance of a winning trade than entering at the top. But with the FOMC hearing today who knows?  

DailyStochastics-1.jpg

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An honorary GIF

One for the main man himself!

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Abraham Bernanke wrote:

I am not sure who said it, I think the credit of the move goes to SW, but try not to trade against the daily slow stochastics.  If you look you will see that buying at the bottom of the slow stochastics is a much better chance of a winning trade than entering at the top. But with the FOMC hearing today who knows?  

DailyStochastics-1.jpg

Yep, good call Abe (and SW).

I'm just running with momentum right now.  Stops are tight and I'm still playing small until the bull is loose.  I'm actually looking for a pull-back over the next week or so, but I feel there's another little pop in here before a turn.  You're right though, the FOMC shenanigans could do anything to any market at this juncture... I hear Apple just saved the world with earnings ;)

If not, in the words of Einstein when discussing whether to have faith or not... "Nichts, nichts" If you believe and there is a God, you win.  If there isn't a God, you're the same as everyone else.  Disclosure:  I *believe* in a God about as much as I *believe* in my position.  Stops are tight.

Hey, and thanks for the chart and all your other input dude - much appreciated.  

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Lightening my gold position.

Just sold a gold position.  I'm looking to sell another some time over the next couple hours.

Planning to buy back between 10am and 2:30pm tomorrow.

I'm expecting PMs to be under pressure before and after tomorrow's FOMC event.

Date ET Release For Consensus Prior
Jan 25 7:00 AM MBA Mortgage Index 01/21 NA 23.1%
Jan 25 10:00 AM Pending Home Sales Dec NA 7.3%
Jan 25 10:00 AM FHFA Housing Price Index Nov NA -0.2%
Jan 25 10:30 AM Crude Inventories 01/21 NA -3.438M
Jan 25 12:30 PM FOMC Rate Decision Jan NA 0.25%
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Stopped out

Tight overnight defensive stops just took the hit at $1660.  

Flat and waiting.    

1665 ad The great plague of London took out 20% of the population..     

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gold sold

5 am sell longs, flip to short @1659.62. Another red trade.

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tZt Humble observation

The time Zone trade

My observation, it seems that the London beat down starts far earlier than 5am Est  usually around 7:30 Gmt  so 2:30 Est.

Might be worth looking at bringing the long sell point back a couple of hours.. 

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Perfidious Albion wrote:The

Perfidious Albion wrote:

The time Zone trade

My observation, it seems that the London beat down starts far earlier than 5am Est  usually around 7:30 Gmt  so 2:30 Est.

Might be worth looking at bringing the long sell point back a couple of hours.. 

2:30 - 4 am seems to be high point, at least in the short term. When I'm sleeping.

EDIT - Cleaning up on the short right now. Overall nicely green for the pair trade. We'll see if it holds up into 10 am.

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Time-of-day trading

I sold both my positions early at $1668.  I was pretty sure we were going to get a beat down so I tried to sell early while it was still high.

If you stick strictly to the times, you are rarely going to hit the optimum times  and you are relying on averages to provide your profit.  This has advantages and disadvantages.

The post I made last night (or the night before) showing the averages of Nov, Dec, and Jan, was partly so that people could see the fluctuations in optimum times over recent months.  Those charts show the optimum times for those months.  Here's the link for the post: http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/comment/119606#comment-119606

PA is kind of right.  You can see from the Jan chart that so far this year 2am EST has been the best time to open the overnight short.

I'm just learning how to do the trade and I have been going light or heavy, early or late, depending on what my experience tells me.

If we get below $1650, I'll probably start buying back without waiting until 10am or 2:30pm.

I would expect a strong beat down again tomorrow night.  Probably early, but who knows?  Also, I would expect a slow moving back up tomorrow during NY afternoon / Asain hours.

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stopped quickly out of some

bought some back at 1653/30.73.  mucking around mostly.  this all looks a bit mucky.

[edit - natty boomsticks holding nicely for now, long may it last... lol]

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