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Granny

There is hope and a bounce is coming. Only it will need to be played and sold imo.

Santa rally coming but the big boys have already left for Christmas so we have light trading volume and lower volatility. I am thinking good buy ops by close of OE, then up thru next week that surprises but has no real power behind it.  Thats a wild guess.

when reviewing the first battalions of Confederate corp moving into Gettysburg, Colonel John Bufort of the North said famously,"there's power behind that". Back then they didn't have drones and airforce.  In battle they would predict the strength of the larger army based in its first thrusts onto the field.

We have had a serious thrust down in metals over this last period. That indicates "there's power behind it". Another leg I think is coming. Could come early or could come right after Christmas or with the New Year but I sense its coming. Wish I was wrong but patience will tell.  Certainly volatility will return in a big,big way when the HogMen return after the Holidays.

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had to go back to futures

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Been playing the 10 and 30 minute b band and slow stoch  since around 2:30 am.  tired

had to go back to futures trading. AGQ ETF decay and limited trading hours is handcuffs.

Still overall bullish but agree that fundos not there yet to support sustained rally.

Apologies for the false call to charge back above 31.

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atlee wrote: Checking in Been

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Checking in

Been playing the 10 and 30 minute b band and slow stoch  since around 2:30 am.  tired

had to go back to futures trading. AGQ ETF decay and limited trading hours is handcuffs.

Still overall bullish but agree that fundos not there yet to support sustained rally.

Apologies for the false call to charge back above 31.

Well if we are all apologizing, then I'm sorry for being one of the people who helped convert you to the bullish side just before then.  You may have been better off never having switched sides and just being patient waiting for lower prices. 

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Colonel John Bufort

GDX impulse down target 46 area or its 200 day weekly. Could go lower depending on how it behaves once target area is hit.

SLV impulse down wave target 22-21, its 200 day weekly staging area.

Yes there will be bounces up and they can be sharp but unless they take out recent highs and important pivots this is the direction I am looking. I hope I am wrong.

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Mining port now 70 % cash

All out except a few big cap positions
which might bounce, and some small
cap 'special situations'.
Waiting for any of 1 of 3 things to happen :
1.) unequivocal qe3
2.) believable and strong pm rally
3.) much lower pm stock prices.

Just ditched my FR on strength. like
Rico I am tempting by Atac at 2.20's,
but 1.50 ' s would be much sweeter.
could quite easily believe they could
back in the 10 dollar range next fall.
Huge deposit, open in all directions,
but market scared witless right now.
No point playing now Imo

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SLV Options

I was just checking out the January 2012 SLV call options and noticed a pretty big trade today.  Seems to be a long straddle of some sort.  Have a look at the 6,7,8 call strike and the 62-70 put strikes.    

Anyone have thoughts as to the expectation?

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LOL SIM

That's right it is all your fault. LOL. No it was me pushing the long side. I thought i saw something devolping in the charts but I was fooled. 

Heck we may still be right. Certainly over a longer term we are. Timing just off by a few dollars. Thats a lot in leveraged plays.

SW is making more and more sense to me,

We will probably bounce out of here soon but will it stick?

I hate that all the nice tradable moves are overnight. What is with that crap?

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Ratio Trade

Ok - I am going to try a ratio trade in one of my trading accounts.  I currently have $75Kish in it so I bought 2625 shares of SLW.  I am going to use RGLD (Royal Gold) as my proxy for gold and SLW (Silver Wheaton) for silver.  Before market close each day, I will remain fully invested in one or the other (or some derivation thereof).  I will try to post my trades so we can all see if this actually works.  While one measure would be to track the $$ - I am thinking more in terms of being able to track the # of shares held (which hopefully will increase over time).

I think both companies are "relatively safe" and give good leverage to the underlying price of the metals.

Wish me luck...

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The GSR trade is a lucrative one, if your timing is on.  The people that I know who do it with ounces only switch once it moves a good deal, so the trades tend to be measured in months between them.  Are you thinking that time frame or are you going to try and time shorter moves with it?   

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Silver is money wrote: The

Silver is money wrote:

The GSR trade is a lucrative one, if your timing is on.  The people that I know who do it with ounces only switch once it moves a good deal, so the trades tend to be measured in months between them.  Are you thinking that time frame or are you going to try and time shorter moves with it?   

People that I know that do it using physical have to use longer term time frames because of the transaction costs.  Since I am going to use paper (SLW/RGLD) my timeframes will probably be shorter.  At the moment I am using a 15 minute chart, but, I will review all timeframes when making trades.  I don't have it optimized yet (obviously) - its still a work in progress.

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overnights

I think overnight futures exhibit clearest movement and volatility. Thin trading. Big money loves to push the price around because they can. Volume is thin. Means that waterfalls can be stood under and bought as gifts imo. I would never buy highs or 'breakouts' in metals overnight though. Only in government sponsored S&P and this is only my observation.

Most of daytime action is often just scraps. That's the great joke on retail.

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Just met Sam two weeks ago

Just met Sam two weeks ago in  the beer garden in Wailuku on First Friday, one of my favorites.

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Strawboss wrote: Silver is

Strawboss wrote:

Silver is money wrote:

The GSR trade is a lucrative one, if your timing is on.  The people that I know who do it with ounces only switch once it moves a good deal, so the trades tend to be measured in months between them.  Are you thinking that time frame or are you going to try and time shorter moves with it?   

People that I know that do it using physical have to use longer term time frames because of the transaction costs.  Since I am going to use paper (SLW/RGLD) my timeframes will probably be shorter.  At the moment I am using a 15 minute chart, but, I will review all timeframes when making trades.  I don't have it optimized yet (obviously) - its still a work in progress.

I would think that the longer timeframes also has to do with the fact that the trend only seems to turn back and forth in those timeframes also (the broader moves at least). 

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my GSR trade

I'm playing GSR too, in forex (currently moderately long both), shares (swap % back and forth between PHYS and PSLV, but always 100% in both together, presently 100% PHYS + 0% PSLV but looking to get at least 50/50 in dollar value...soon), and physical (99% silver, 1% gold, in absolute ounces, looking to end up 65/35 with more silver but need GSR to lower a lot :)

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Quote: Apologies for the

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Apologies for the false call to charge back above 31.

It does not matter if your calls are accurate or not. Everything you write breathes integrity. Integrity is why this corner is such a great place.

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Gentleman, you've served

Corzine served papers while on break. CME suing MF Global on behalf of 38,000 shareholders.

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Sold SLW and bought RGLD

Sold SLW and bought RGLD - 1075 shares just before market close.  I feel more comfortable overnight with RGLD than SLW at the moment.

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Just my 2 cents as usual, but

Just my 2 cents as usual, but I think there will be a small rally tomorrow am.  Even though it's quadruple witching day.  Should be a witch for sure!

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I second that Dirk.  Right

I second that Dirk.  Right on.

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Great sleep

Terrible pre-christmas weather here has broken, feeling very optimistic today.  Bring on summer!

Reduced @ 29.20/1590 (thanks for corroboration Pailin). Just added back some Au @ 1566.  Ag held up much better so will just let the tid bit ride for now, ditto euro.

If I hadn't lived through the last week and came to look at just the 15 min charts fresh... well... they look like the biggest solidest bottoms I've seen in some time - particularly silver with that beautiful inverse head and shoulders.

Read somewhere once that human intelligence is essentially pattern recognition - I like that.

A confirmed push through 29.25 and 1590 and we're off till at least christmas IMHO.  Down through 28/1560... nibble nibble.

DYODD

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