Rush Limbaugh: How to Keep Women Stuck on the Democratic Plantation

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Rush Limbaugh: How to Keep Women Stuck on the Democratic Plantation

I've been mostly silent on this issue of Rush Limbaugh calling Susan Fluke a "slut" and a "prostitute" but I'll share a few thoughts here.

1) Susan Fluke was lying when she made it out like contraception costs $3,000/year. I'm a woman and: 

a) any child-bearing age woman who is being honest with herself knows it doesn't cost that much 
b) we know of places to get it for cheap or free
c) if you are in a monogamous relationship your partner should be chipping in for it anyway!!, which brings me to:
d) if you aren't in a monogamous relationship and you are not using condoms, you are an idiot...which brings me to my most important point:
e) MOST MEN BRING THEIR OWN CONDOMS and the ones that don't aren't worth their salt anyway...so you don't even have to pay for anything!! Duh!!

But are we having that conversation? No, we are not. And why is that? Because...

2) RUSH TOOK THE BAIT. Rush was a total idiot for taking the Democratic bait on this one. He took an issue, which should have been a non-issue, and turned it into a circus with an extremely poor choice of words. HE BIT INTO THE BAIT. He could have used softer language, or just said that Fluke was "acting like a prostitute" - which is still not great, but not the epithet that SLUT is.

3) Many women, particularly those on the left, see the word SLUT as something akin to "nigger." His use of it totally fueled their fire and provided "proof" the conservatives are misogynists.

4) The left will now, up until the election, use Rush's thoughtless words to agitate women, particularly moderate women, that the Republicans hate women, want to remove their contraception, and are out to force women out of the workforce to become stay-at-home-moms (OR WORSE!!)

5) Any conservative who stomps his feet and demands his right to stand up against political correctedness is totally playing into this tactic - they are in effect "proving" how insensitive conservatives are. 

6) YOU are helping Obama get re-elected if you fall for this crap.

Now. Some women, such as myself, have figured out that the Democrats really don't care about women - they just want us as a voting bloc. But they have been extremely successful in brainwashing the majority of women in America that conservatives are misogynists. YOU need to be smarter than that and STOP playing into their hands with this callous, stupid language. YOU need to let conservative women like Sarah Palin talk about these issues, and men like Limbaugh need to SHUT UP because they are doing more harm than good.

You want to know how you will lose the election? You will lose it by losing women. It's that simple. 

I've been shaking my head ever since Rush came out with that stupid commentary. If Obama wins re-election, it will seriously be Rush's fault. I am not exaggerating. WOMEN will make the difference this year, not men, WOMEN. So you better change your strategy fast, or you will LOSE.

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Labeling somebody a slut

I guess Rush  Limbaugh's big mistake was not asking Ms. Fluke her drug of choice or alcoholic beverage so we could pay for that to. Amazing a law school student that cant afford birth control or god forbid cut back on her lifestyle. Wonder if she has any money left for  PM's. I no maybe we should have a government program to buy PM' for everyone, that will drive the price up and crush JPM at the same time. 

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They have totally changed the

They have totally changed the subject from "Why is the government in healthcare?" to "What should and shouldn't the healthcare cover?"

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Nicely saidyes   It's good to get a women's perspective on these issue's. I found the whole thing distasteful, as far as subject matter goes and the lingo.  Childish crap that was repeated over and over.

I like the 'bait' analogy. I honestly had the thought last week that Limbaugh was squirming  like a fish on a hook and the Dem's were loving every minute of it.

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Hey Steph...

Pretty much on track with your viewpoints.   I agree that conservatives/and libertarians need to learn better talking points without "taking the bait".  One reason I like Ron Paul (don't think he's perfect, but he does stay on message, without the name-calling).   Wish more women with your views were in politics and could clearly articulate messages, whether they were right-leaning or left-leaning.   The "soundbites" of both parties is getting extremely old.

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Rush is an idiot. I really can't see how he has a loyal audience. Rush reminds me of a Pentecostal pastor in that he whoots and hollers to get an emotional response from the crowd, not an intellectual one mind you. I agree with your analogy about the lawschool woman and the means behind the ends that the socialcrats are pushing wrt this agegenda

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Epitaphs are easy to hurl…

…as anybody who has noticed the "Ron Paul is a racist" nonsense knows.

It's unfortunate, but when somebody like Limbaugh, who, for better or worse, fairly or unfairly is perceived as an important spokesman for conservatives and Republicans, makes such inane and inappropriate statements, it makes it really easy for others to say "Republicans are misogynists" and make it seem to stick, especially when his statement is not roundly condemned by other Republicans until days later.

Kind of like the Howard Dean 'rebel yell' which probably cost him the nomination, Rush's 'slut' comments WILL be played back over and over again - bank on it.

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Hey Stephanie

As another female here, I agree with almost everything you wrote except for the slut part.  Slut, at least here in NYC, is a badge of honor because it is seen as a form of liberation.  We have demonstrations where women dress as sluts, call themselves sluts, etc.

The problem, of course, is that middle America is not yet hip to this form of liberation. /sarc 

From my perspective, the left is laughing at Limbaugh calling Fluke a slut because for "those in the know", it's a positive epitaph, a badge of honor, so to speak.  But, the left are Janus-faced about this as they are about practically anything.  When facing the media they pretend horror.

The left is out to destroy non-left media.  Limbaugh would be a big fish to destroy and they will go for the kill.

Too bad.  I don't listen to Limbaugh but I don't think ideas should be silenced, they should be met with better ideas.

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not so sure

That this is the 'political mistake' that Steph and all are picturing it as.  As an non-American, I perceive the divide between the 'religious right' and the 'commie leftists' (just easy labels to define the extremes of 2 points of view) in the US is at least as wide any divide based on gender.  Not all women are going to take exception to the description of Fluke as a slut.  

Would most folks on this site (men and women) consider a college student promiscuous or a slut because he/she is sexually active and doesn't want to conceive a child at that point in his/her life?  Nope, I don't think so. But I'm not so sure it is correct to consider this any more 'normal' for women to believe than for men.  Consider the other crazy ideas, promoted on this site.  You know, money printing is irresponsible, investing in pms is wise, people and countries should live within their means....  

Rush was just playing to his audience, men and women alike...

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@ stepanie My daughter

My daughter is 23 and a recent graduate of a major university. She probably voted for Obama (I never asked), but since entering the workforce I know she will not this election. She saw Ms. Fluke on tv and just about fell off the sofa she started laughing so hard. Her comments were almost exactly the same as yours listed under #1 (again I didn't ask). Furthermore she stated that she is either lying or so stupid that she does not belong in Georgetown. After some investigation into her, lying was her decision. We've never been huge fans of Rush L. (though RUSH is a great band), though his wording was definitely a big mistake. The Republican candidates need to steer the conversation away from this subject. Our country has much larger problems.

 

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Stephanie,

  Thank you for expressing a feminine viewpoint on the Rush "news". 

  For myself, I was shocked, then disappointed to learn that the Rush Limbaugh Show is said to have the largest conservative following. I say shocked and disappointed because i thought many/most conservatives were brighter than that. Rush is full of hyperbole and self-aggrandization. Granted he does raise points to ponder, but my impression is that he does more of a disservice to the conservative movement by acting more like a circus ringleader than a thoughtful, conservative radio personality. Is this because he is caught up in the ratings game and seeing that The Bachelor and Dancing With the Stars attracts large audiences, he feels he must also perform down to the lowest denominator? It just makes me ill. Are we as a People so easily manipulated? If so, then we get what we deserve.What i wouldn't give to have a long conversation with an intelligent, conservative woman.

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I live in a much less "enlightened" part of the country

than NYC.  It boggles my mind to think that there are women who think multiple random sexual encounters will earn them a badge of honor, and and in the process will prove their liberation.  Women on the whole, still earn significantly less than men, are represented unequally in the political process as elected officials, and their medical issues are routinely dismissed as "emotional" in their origins.  We are UNequal in almost every arena in our society.  What kind of twisted logic does it take to tell the world, "I'm spreading my legs for liberation?"  Anyone ever hear a parent tell their daughter to prove their liberation that way? 

As for the Rush comment........stupid, yes.  But Ms. Fluke is a self-proclaimed warrior for reproductive rights, she presented her testimony, and she should have been known a certain segment of the population would think the same things Rush said.  According to recent polls their are more people in this country who call themselves conservatives than liberals (40/25% if I remember correctly). 

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It's much worse than you may realize...

Magpie wrote:

than NYC.  It boggles my mind to think that there are women who think multiple random sexual encounters will earn them a badge of honor, and and in the process will prove their liberation.  Women on the whole, still earn significantly less than men, are represented unequally in the political process as elected officials, and their medical issues are routinely dismissed as "emotional" in their origins.  We are UNequal in almost every arena in our society.  What kind of twisted logic does it take to tell the world, "I'm spreading my legs for liberation?"  Anyone ever hear a parent tell their daughter to prove their liberation that way? 

When I was in my 20s as a "GenXer," being able to "enjoy your sexuality without guilt" seemed like it was part of being a feminist. But by the late 90s, "post-feminism" came around, and it's taken that and added ten times to it. Now, in the name of "empowerment," women go to "exercise clubs" to learn how to strip and pole dance. They buy stripper shoes as part of their exercise "outfit." I knew women in Los Angeles who were actively being public "lesbians" - exhibitionist about it - in front of their boyfriends - in the name of "empowerment." I'm talking, at the closing party for a theater I was involved in, one woman was on the dance floor with another woman's hand stuck up her dress for all to see. Women in their 30s - not 20s.

In Los Angeles, many bars now have poles in the middle of them for the pole dancing contests.

Years ago, I had a friend in LA who had a pole installed in her living room for her "fitness class." (This was when I wasn't as selective with my friends.) 

In this sorry state of affairs, where women are incredibly pressured to not just be sexual, but to flaunt it, contraception can be seen as a crucial element of freedom.

But I finally clued in to the fact that a lot of "liberal" men don't really care about women - they only care about "women's rights" (i.e., abortion and contraception) because it allows them to have sex without consequences.

Now. Do I want to go back to the 1950s? No way. But we need a middle ground here.

How can these young women be reached? I don't know. They certainly haven't put two and two together - i.e., how a total financial collapse will not only make it downright impossible to get birth control, but would destroy any autonomy they might have as women. In a Mad Max world, where roving bands of young malcontent men might be roaming around looting and, yes, raping, this whole issue of "contraception" will take on an entirely new meaning. But there's no way to translate all that into: "Here's why you need to stop supporting the Keynesian/Socialist Democratic Party" in a neat soundbite. (Not that the Republicans aren't also heading us off a cliff as well.) 

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In case anyone still believes Sandra Fluke is a fluke

Sandra Fluke’s Appearance Is No Fluke

Posted by Just a Grunt on Mar 02, 2012 at 10:49 am

For me the interesting part of the story is the ever-evolving “coed”. I put that in quotes because in the beginning she was described as a Georgetown law student. It was then revealed that prior to attending Georgetown she was an active women’s right advocate. In one of her first interviews she is quoted as talking about how she reviewed Georgetown’s insurance policy prior to committing to attend, and seeing that it didn’t cover contraceptive services,  she decided to attend with the express purpose of battling this policy. During this time, she was described as a 23-year-old coed. Magically, at the same time Congress is debating the forced coverage of contraception, she appears and is even brought to Capitol Hill to testify. This morning, in an interview with Matt Lauer on the Today show, it was revealed that she is 30 years old,  NOT the 23 that had been reported all along.

In other words, folks, you are being played. She has been an activist all along and the Dems were just waiting for the appropriate time to play her.

While she is described as a “third year law student” they always fail to mention that she is also the past president of Law Students for Reproductive Justice.

July 30 2011

Does your campus’s LSRJ chapter face opposition in regard to facilitating a comprehensive conversation about reproductive justice? Well mine definitely does! While my campus has a mix of people with different backgrounds, and a rich liberal arts community, the Midwest doesn’t exactly scream bleeding liberal. Some LSRJ chapters at conservative campuses face opposition in the form of other, more conservative, student run organizations; some face it from their administrations, and others from their peers, or the community in general. Whatever the opposition is, it can be incredibly frustrating and disheartening.

The question is, how do we combat this conservative opposition and oppression, in order to facilitate a discussion and educate others about the RJ movement? I am obviously not alone in facing these problems, as Sandra Fluke of Georgetown lead a packed room in a discussion on this question at the first Issue Caucus that I attended at the Leadership Institute, LSRJ’s national conference at Berkeley.

While no solution was definitively reached, and I personally don’t begin to have the “right” answer, I was really charged by the discussion and feel many great ideas were presented. Some campus chapters decided to take an adversarial approach, feeling it important to use those “scary” words the opposition fears.

Further background research on Ms Fluke reveals that she got her start in government in New York in 2009.

Read more:http://www.jammiewf.com/2012/sandra-flukes-appearance-is-no-fluke/

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"Reproductive Justice"?

ClinkinKY...interesting info you shared...now what sets my radar off is the term "reproductive justice."

When I was fresh out of college I needed a "cause" and joined NOW and the Women's Action Coalition (WAC), which was supposed to be more radical than NOW. The issues of the day (this was the 90s) were keeping abortion legal, sexual harassment, and breaking the glass ceiling. There was no talk about free contraception!

(Side note: I was in Los Angeles NOW when Tammy Bruce was president. She was unpopular and considered a "power monger." Also...no offense to any lesbians reading this, Tammy really had that "I don't care about my grooming" stereotypical radical lesbian "look" to her - in other words, no make-up, unibrow, slight mustache, and not very pretty. It is AMAZING how much better she looks now!)

It was my brief experiences in those organizations that turned me off of radical politics, although I remained a moderate Democrat until the 2008 election. It was then that I noticed how far gone the "feminist" movement was. Organizations that should have been supporting what should have been our first woman president, Hillary Clinton, were supporting Obama instead!

When NARAL endorsed Obama over Hillary in the primaries, a lot of women flipped a gasket. They couldn't believe it. I was personally furious. And then to top it off, Ms. Magazine put Obama on the cover with a picture of him in a superhero costume, saying "This is what a feminist looks like." Arggh!

These same "women's" organizations barely breathed a word when certain Democrats were running around wearing and selling "SARAH PALIN IS A C***" t-shirts. They didn't say anything when she was called Caribou Barbie and worse.

I've noticed lately that if you go to NOW's website, it's more about pushing socialism than helping women. When women in Saudi Arabia are risking their lives for the right to drive, do you hear a peep about this from the left? Nope. But Susan G. Komen wants to end a grant to Planned Parenthood, a grant that is less than the cost of their president's salary and benefits for one year, and the left goes ballistic

Rush uses the term "slut" and it's the top news story for days, despite tornadoes and disaster and all sorts of other more important news going on. And hey, did we forget that Davy Jones and Andrew Breitbart just died? Whitney got a lot more coverage than the two of them combined! WTF?!!!

So yes, there is definitely an agenda here...

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Any Gen-X (or later) men here?

I'm really interested to know if any of you have encountered "reproductive justice" proponents.  If so, did their sexual history bother you?   Would/did you look past that, and enter willingly into a substantial relationship with a woman who'd had multiple random sexual partners?  If she was using contraception would that be good enough, or would you be concerned about STD"s?  (If those ?s are too much, tell me to eff off.  I am too old to care anymore!  smiley  )

My granddaughter is only 10, but I'm going to start teaching her parity doesn't arrive on the sheets of a bed.

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Stephanie,

Thanks for the insight.....I sure didn't know the movement was that pervasive.  I thought it was just a few SF wackos.

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There is no difference

Between Rush and Fluke......they both simply do what they are told. If you allow yourself to be distracted, they win.

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Smoke and mirrors baby, The

Smoke and mirrors baby, The issue isn't whether the government should or shouldn't  pay for health care . The REAL issue is why the hell Americans cant afford their own health care in the first place. 

One reason is the government interfered in the ""free market"" THEY are the ones who sold out to corporate lobbyists and screwed our free markets up. 

They are the ones who outsourced millions of American jobs a year to communist countries .

They are ones who are breaking the back of the middle class. 

As far as Mush Limburger goes, I agree with his premise, But He is still an overbearing ,narcissistic, obnoxious jerk off . Joseph Goebbels would be proud of him . 

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I think there is a plot to

I think there is a plot to ruin the morals of America. Its subtle but is getting more blatant. I'd like to think it is because I was getting older but I am a Gen Xer and know better. I admired the girls when I was in college that were sticking up for themselves. It is attractive to see independence in a woman. But then things changed.

Suddenly it was all Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Shakira and Miley Cyrus. Now we have movies like Friends With Benefits and No Strings Attached. It is getting more blatant. I'm not saying we have to go back to the 50's but c'mon we are sending mixed messages to the young girls in this country. Even now girls are having pregnancy pacts as if it is the thing to do because of MTV's 16 and Pregnant. There is a whole lot of difference between the Riot Grrrls and I don't know what you would call it today with Jersey Shore and the Kardashians.

The radical politics doesn't help either. I made a comment on a board about a guy I know who tried to inflame the above original discussion by stating that female character Dagny Taggart (of Atlas Shrugged fame) took birth control but its ok because she had sex with all the billionaires. I said that the guy was much smarter than that and that the two parties are of the same wing and want us fighting over stupid arguments rather than discussing the never ending wars and eroding personal liberties. Immediately a woman came on and said "The war on women is not a stupid argument." I had forgotten how polarizing these issues are. Oops. I never said I was pro choice, it was immediately assumed that I wasn't. But I am in fact pro choice. What got me was the focus on "stupid argument" vs the assumption I made about peoples understanding of "personal liberties".

I was trying to figure out how to respond and someone came to my rescue. It's more the fact again that government is trying to regulate business as well as personal liberties. And leaving out the personal responsibility because .gov knows best. And while I cannot believe some of the fictions that are created in the media by both sides (IE Fluke for today) I know Joseph Goebbels would be proud of both sides.

So really, society has changed because of the messages sent through these mediums I mentioned before. To the point where abortion is used as a form of birth control. In addition to traditional contraception there is now the morning after pill as well. The thing is, after a certain point, we as a society may be losing the ability to have children in the long term. (there is scientific evidence of that now) Or even a possibility of increased miscarriages so that when someone wants to have children they can't. I grew up thinking that a child was the manifestation of a truly loving relationship. My sister struggled emotionally because she wasn't able to have a child and thought they never would. Then suddenly 13 years into her marriage she was granted a miracle.

And to be honest there are a faction of the elite that are happy to have this debate going on as it is a form of eugenics anyway. There is no doubt that our population is slowing down similar to Europe. They are out to "cull the herd" at some point. This is the slowly but surely version. With the chemicals in our pills and water it is a scary thought.

I'm certainly pro choice. I am just saying that people have to realize there are consequences for their actions. I know women who have changed their ideas about abortion and even regretted them. And sometimes it is the asshole males involved too. I know some of them personally. And maybe this is why I am a Libertarian now. Because I take care of my own personal responsibility.

I would hate to be a young person today though. The mixed messages being sent via advertising, the more destructive drugs, movies, music etc. It's like you don't get a chance to make a mistake and learn a lesson anymore. It's like you get thrown in the mosh pit of life and you have to take what you get: bruises, bumps and all. I know it gets down to parenting too but you can't be a parent to everyone else's children either. I'm a little scared for my new nephew.

Ultimately it is all about choice and I am not going to be against someone having their choice. I just wanted to weigh in a little. Flame away! laugh

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@Hold over. Amen on the

@Hold over. Amen on the affording of health care. I just made a reference to Joseph Goebbels myself. laugh

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Hat tip to the Good doctor and Hold Over

This is another division offering by MSM on both sides. I could care less how many Tom's this chick beds or how many Jane's some hairy leg slays, or whether it's Jane on Sally or Steve on Tom.

None of this got us into this mess and continuing any argument about it is simply BS. The focus in this country is bass ackwards and all the momo's are on board. This does nothing but give the talking heads rating points, from Lush bimbo to JJ "the Mooch" Jackson.

Look at these ass clowns from POTUS to the 3 stooges. They can't get enough of it.

As was stated, the problem is the middle class being squeezed like a wet rag in a car wash and anyone left standing will just be inflated into tent city and a soup line.

If this kind of BS is the real problems of today, then the whole concept of healthcare will be redefined from what we view it as it stands to whether you have an extra tater to throw in the pot.

I picked a bad year to give up my weekly joint. I think I will wait until next year. 

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