So we have a Turdmart now

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So we have a Turdmart now

No surprise there to anyone with brains I guess. There would be no problem just putting up links to other sites that sell this stuff, but that wouldn't mean any $$$ now would it.

Let me get to the point. And continue a discussion with Turd I had earlier:

Turd, you run a website that probably cost somewhere between 2-10k$ to make and maintain so far, and at a maximum costs you 500$ a month to host and maintain. I guess I can judge that adequately being a Sysadmin and my sister running a web design company. How many hits do you get a day? 10k, 50k? That's like 2-10 hits per second, or 1 hit per second maximum at peak hours, and at an absolute maximum of 50kb/s traffic, which is 125gb per month, EVERY half modern machine can handle that. You are hosted via Godaddy.com and even their 5-10$ per month web hosting offers should be able to handle that. If you use a dedicated server, then one of their cheaper offers below 100$ per month will easily suffice.

Now at these same 10-50k hits a day we assumed, at the usual CPM (funds earned per 1000 clicks) of 1$, you earn 10-50$ a day. That's 300-1500$ a month from ad revenue alone. Make that double that if you include donations. So your profit off this site is up to a couple thousand of bucks a month, but at least there is virtually no possibility that you do not at least get even on your expenses.

What my point is that I think (and from your interviews it's quite easy to judge what kind of persona you are), you got your relative fame not via advice that helped people (everybody who can flip a coin can match your record) but via a cult circled around your persona. And while I do believe you like to contribute something to society, I think mostly you do it for fame and money. I think you earn a multiple of what you spend on this site.

Now you can quite easily dismiss all that:

- show us your server cost and how much your personel costs you. You don't need to include anyone's name, it can stay anonymous as it should be (although anyone who wants can easily find out your name and address via a request to your domain registrar; although the registrar data of tfmetalsreport.com is listed as anonymous, the info has to be provided by the registrar to anyone upon request). Compare it to your donations and your ad revenue. As before, can be done anonymously. Just like every entity nowadays, lay open to anyone TFMetalsreport's finances, and we will be able to judge for ourselves if you really need our donations or just profit off them.

- IF this shows that you earn more than you spend on this site, pledge to donate the overhead to GATA or any other organisation that benefits the public. IF that is already the case and you do already donate the rest, please state so also.

- least importantly, but you can also show us some proof that you are actually qualified to give advice (I know officially you do not present your views as investment advice, but hey, lets not kid ourselves). That can be your stash or whatever, some proof of wealth or success in investing. You have, by your own account, decades in this business as a futures investor, so if you are any good at it, at least good enough to be responsible for influencing the investment decisions of thousands, at least you should be worth 7 figures right now. Again, we do not know who you are in real life, so there should be no concern in revealing this info. And after all, Sprott reveals he's a billionaire, and nobody has robbed him yet, have they ;).

Or, alternatively, just openly admit you have a profit incentive.

Every other popular PM site clearly DOES NOT have a profit incentive, be it for KingWorldNews who is entirely self-funded, has no ads and does not even accept donations if you offer it to him. Be it GATA. Be it Zerohedge, who for example does have ads but the kind of volume of information there I guess justifies a little revenue, since Tyler Durden definitely does not have the time left for any kind of work apart from writing for ZH. Be it Goldmoney who do a lot of video interviews and put them on Youtube and do not once advertise their company during their interviews. Be it a lot of smaller bloggers who write just as extensively, or more so, than Turd, and receive nothing for it return.

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Not to disrespect stoneeh...

but, it's really none of your business, imho...you always have a choice to stay or go.  Turd has no responsibility to report anything to you or anyone else (other than his wife!)  Every entity does not lay open it's books to the public.  That's just asinine.  I am happy he has TurdMart.  And if he makes a couple of dollars...so what.  He has provided a place for me (and many others) to learn from him and from the regular Turdites.  Get off your high horse & get over it.  Geez...spend your efforts here learning something, not trashing the host.  

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Stoneeh

You, sir, are almost as smart as a bag of dicks.laugh

Mods, you can feel free to consider this post collateral damage. It took much less time to type than all that horseshit from stoneeh.

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Go away troll....

no one here gives a rat's rectum what you think! Just drivel!!

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What was the point of this

What was the point of this post other than a retaliatory attack for him calling you out on main street?  Are you unhappy that he might make money on this site?  This is America!  Home of capitalism.  If he wants to make money from HIS site, he is free to do so.  He presents his information free of charge and those who donate do so out of their own free will.

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kingworldnews.com

I am on kingworldnews.com right now reading an interview with Felix Zulauf and right in the middle of the interview is a huge ad for US GOLD and clearly states it is an advertisement. Jim Sinclair sells his compendiums and book to fund his site. Who gives a shit if Turd makes a profit. What is wrong with making a bit of money for your efforts? Turd is not scamming anyone by recommending penny stocks or numismatic crap. Now go give Eric King a talking down for putting ads on his site!

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Stoneeh

Why do you continue to come on and be a dick-weed? I mean, really?

Do you like being verbally abused or what? I'm starting to wonder. It's TF's site and you don't have to be here and get all bugged out over.....what? His site or how he presents things? Or because he actually has one and it's thriving despite how you think it shouldn't be because it's not your site or the way you would run things?  That's odd thinking if that's the case and petulant envy turned into smug bitterness. Good luck with that. It's so obvious. I'm sure you can't see it but most people seem to.

Honestly, at times you come on and have some good comments that have some depth and speak of intelligence etc.  And then some times (usually) you just come on with a attitude that's anti-TF or anti- TFMR.com     Why do you persist?  Ask yourself and be honest.  If the site makes you a bit nuts then why are you still here?  

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Maybe Turd (or at least

Maybe Turd (or at least someone from "site staff") should be the one to reply to this.

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I own a community website

I own a community website (forum) focused on a completely different niche / topic.  I've had a CafePress shop associated with it selling branded merchandise as well as an amazon storefront selling a selection of books on the site's niche topic for about 6 years now.  The storefronts earn roughly $0.50 or so commission on any item sale.  In 6 years, I probably realized $20 worth of commissions.  lol.  The CafePress storefront is more about branding and offline marketing than making money.  The amazon.com storefront is really just a helpful guide for people just starting to explore / learn about the subject.  Neither one has provided sufficient ROI considering my time and effort in setting them up to make them profit centers.  

The complaint about Turdmart just seems so hollow given my personal experience with a similar venture.

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@ stoneeh

Dude,

Next time you get bored with massaging your sphincter, log onto a different site.

Your input is neither good, nor valued. And your negativity could be put to better use I am sure.

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Let's clear up a few things...

stoneeh wrote:

Turd, you run a website that probably cost somewhere between 2-10k$ to make and maintain so far, and at a maximum costs you 500$ a month to host and maintain. I guess I can judge that adequately being a Sysadmin and my sister running a web design company. How many hits do you get a day? 10k, 50k? That's like 2-10 hits per second, or 1 hit per second maximum at peak hours, and at an absolute maximum of 50kb/s traffic, which is 125gb per month, EVERY half modern machine can handle that. You are hosted via Godaddy.com and even their 5-10$ per month web hosting offers should be able to handle that. If you use a dedicated server, then one of their cheaper offers below 100$ per month will easily suffice.

First of all, just because someone says they do sysadmin doesn't mean they know jack about running a high performance, high traffic website.

But even sysadmins who aren't used to running large websites should know that high traffic websites need more than crappy GoDaddy *shared* hosting for $5-10/month!

I run a small e-commerce website that gets 1/100th of the traffic Turd gets, and my webhost has been telling me I may need to upgrade from my "crappy" shared hosting plan, due to the amount of database load that it requires on its modest traffic. *No* shared hosting company would even ALLOW a site of this amount of traffic to run on shared hosting. Not GoDaddy. No-one. This site would be shut down.  

So right off the bat, you are either a) lying about being a sysadmin or b) clueless or c) purposefully trolling.

I'm not even going to get into the "my sister does web design so I have a right to speak about this," other than to say, since the dot-com era, everyone and their brother "does web design," especially college students, the unemployed, and the unqualified.

Now, I'm sorry to sound harsh. But we've been getting complaints about you lately, and the reason we've left up the responses to this comment is to show that a lot of people are pretty tired of naysaying on this website. It's one thing to genuinely and sincerely question, but it's quite another to actively attempt to poison the website with negativity.

If you don't like what Turd is about, you are free to leave. Quit trying to make this place miserable for everyone else.

I am now locking this thread.

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