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Same old, same old.  The

Same old, same old.  The "drive by" supporters often have limited english skills (second language) and syntax and grammar suspiciously like Ivars.

itards for short.

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@Shill

It's worse than that. Turd and the Mods were warned about these ivars trolls a long time ago. They have chosen to let them continue spamming their useless drivel around here. They should have nuked them out of here long ago, as their intentions are only to discredit Turd and other posters who actually know something about the gold and silver markets.

ivars doesn't know anything about this sector. His own posts proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Sadly, those posts got nuked by Mods who don't understand this issue either.   

Good luck to you Shill, I have always appreciated your efforts to inform and educate. Great sense of humor too. You're  an ace in my book.

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Thought I'd repost, as I can't seem to get anything to stick over there. 

To Mod Hamilton,

You guys are way behind the curve. Way behind.

You can't just "ignore" trolls, and you certainly can't be "friendly"to them either.  They have to be kicked out of here. Sorry, but you have it all wrong on this. 

If TF and you guys choose to ignore the problem, that's your call, but please don't try to lecture me on this topic talking about "mutual respect" and "tolerance". Trolls have none of those qualities. Especially for our host. If you can't see that, then your moderating becomes useless and you might as well go full on Fight Club. 

At least other posters will be able to defend themselves against these internet parasites.

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Real troll bustin'

Figured it'd be a good idea to shout out the latest trolls as they show up.

About 15 minutes ago I saw this post by "sam777" who'd been a member for all of eight minutes before he made it:

it won't, we will see

it won't, we will see under 1500 and Silver will go test 20-22, Did you guys really think, the EE is going to let us win.  This isn't their first rodeo.  Just wish I sold when I had the chance. 

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I'd say the three Billy Goats Gruff have a new troll to butt.

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"A place of cooperation"

Indeed.

This rings true in many ways.

Example: Member X posts chart of silver correcting to $0 with various objective data to support it. Member Y calls Member X a "troll" cause it hurts his feewings cause he's full on emotionally invested to his coins and those nasty "TA's" threaten his love affair. An e-fight breaks out. Member Z, who's been around longer than everyone and think's he's hot shit takes Member Y's back. So does someone else that rarely posts but decides to now cause noone likes them nasty "trolls." Then the peace keepers show up: "common, can't we all get along?!" Then the nOOB's ask "hey, can silver really go to -$6?? I'm scared!" Member Z says, "of course not, this guy's an idiot." And the clusterfuck continues.

There are more examples and they're endless.

If Turdville is to survive it needs members from all walks of life, with all kinds of opinions, with all kinds of ideas, with unique things to share that all come together and share it with each other. It's not about making everyone happy; that's impossible. It's about having a vision, a mission, a solid TOS, strict moderation to enforce it. That holds true for the nOOBs who don't know any better but ALSO the veterans who should know better. I say this without reservation as I've seen it happen over and over and over,  the minute, check that, the SECOND it becomes a circle-jerk of ego stroking, locker room ass-slapping, good ole boys club fuckery, those that seek all those great things will be gone because.....there's nothing to offer but some guy in a big funny hat and his Sharpie talking to a bunch of blind clowns. 

Have a pleasant evening. See you at Turdland V3.0 (i liked V1.0 the best, personally).

[Mod. note: post moved here from Main St. post

A Study of Open Interest]

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Doc:  I agree with your assessment.  The moderator proved your point completely by disallowing your post on the main thread and then allowing Shill to blast you on the main thread.  Isn't that precisely what you were taking them to task for? The fact that its turning into a good ole buys club?   You're absolutely right.  If everyone on here can't handle a contrary opinion on where silver is headed, then what is the purpose of the site?  I think you are exactly right.  People around here cannot handle the fact that silver is going down.  I'm becoming exasperated by the KWN, Turk, Mike Morgan $60 by year's end, and all the others who leave a person believing that they are doing nothing now but talking their book.  It's ridiculous.   Anyway, I won't say more now but I'm getting pretty close to posting on the main thread because I can't stand all the starry-eyed ness on not just this site, but from all the usual suspects in general.  Take care man.

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Doc:  I agree with your

Doc:  I agree with your assessment.  The moderator proved your point completely by disallowing your post on the main thread and then allowing Shill to blast you on the main thread

Note he took my post down as well. And make another note, If your going to insult the community as a whole dam strait your going to get blasted. And another thing Truth, if you call that a blasting you have not been around long enough, I call that a simple exchange of words. Bunch of whining bitches you all are. And what ever else you said in your post means squat to me. ( Checks silver up up and away ) your Idol threats mean little here. Start your own hang mans thread then you true shills can pat each others ass and tell each other how wonderful you all are.

And for the record there is no Good ole boys club/network here I travel alone, this misnomer that were all huddled in a corner thinking of ways to flame or gang up on typical shills is idiotic and High school drivel from trouble makers you bring it then can't handle the rebuttle...again bunch of whining little girls.

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I don't care what

you guys say about me, as I can handle myself and it goes with the territory. But blasting Turd and the entire community makes you look very bad. It's just wrong.  

Good old boys club? Hardly. You'd be surprised what goes behind the scenes here at times. I know I was when we lost some good members awhile back. 

Anyhow, like Shill, I ride alone, although I have made some friends around here. Great bunch of posters overall, IMO.

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@Shill

Shill wrote:

And for the record there is no Good ole boys club/network here I travel alone, this misnomer that were all huddled in a corner thinking of ways to flame or gang up on typical shills is idiotic and High school drivel from trouble makers you bring it then can't handle the rebuttle...again bunch of whining little girls.

There is, in fact, a group of people on this site who are "huddled in a corner" thinking of ways to flame or cause trouble, and we do know who some of them are. A group of people who think they are better than everyone else, and yet by and large create most of the negativity here. And that is the "high school" element on this website. Not the people calling them out on their BS.

BTW...please stop insulting women in your posts. The fact is, MOST of the assholes on this site, the ones who cause the most problems and drama, are MEN (or BOYS). NONE of the people who have been banned from the site (except spammers) have been women. NONE of them. But I've seen plenty of guys here go off on total temper tantrums when they don't get their way. Is this because men are more emotionally fragile than women and can't handle disagreement on a website? Maybe it's as simple as there are more men here than women?

Either way, I'm sure you can come up with a more creative insult than one that puts down the very fine women who are here on the site. 

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Really?

I'd love to hear where you get your info Jane and who you're talking about. I talked to Turd myself about this, and he is aware who started a bunch of this nonsense. Are you?

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let's make something clear...

Bay of Pigs wrote:

I'd love to hear where you get your info Jane and who you're talking about. I talked to Turd myself about this, and he is aware who started a bunch of this nonsense. Are you?

Interesting. Why would you even be concerned about this at all, if there isn't any "group" to be concerned about? 

Put it this way - anyone who sends PMs on this or any other website, and presumes that what they are talking about is somehow private or privileged, is naive at best. 

a) You never know who you are PMing and whether you can trust them.

b) Anyone with heightened privileges on a website has access to the *entire database.* The only thing that is encrypted in the database are your passwords. This doesn't just apply here, it applies to any online forum you are on.

So don't assume if you are PMing someone that it won't be forwarded or shared with someone else. Here or anywhere. Period.

BTW - Threats, harassment, attempts to "expose," ridicule, or otherwise retaliate against another concerned user who has complained about the behavior of others will get your account shut off. If you hadn't already noticed, we've shown an extreme amount of tolerance for people on all sides of this issue, given that the group in question is still here and not kicked off, but if I find out someone is being personally targeted over this, my patience will reach its ending point and people will get booted. Capiche?

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Well, this is posted

in my forum, that's why I'm interested and concerned. And why did Mod WA put Durdens post in here in the first place? 

"There is, in fact, a group of people on this site who are "huddled in a corner" thinking of ways to flame or cause trouble, and we do know who some of them are. A group of people who think they are better than everyone else, and yet by and large create most of the negativity here. And that is the "high school" element on this website. Not the people calling them out on their BS."

I have nothing to hide publicly or privately, and I have always tried to add something to this site. If my efforts and views are not wanted or appreciated, I will leave. Is that the case or are you talking to someone else?

Seriously Mod Jane, this kind of stuff creeps me out. I am not part of any "group" or "club", and I don't appreciate you implying that here in the forum where I have defended TF and this site. 

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@BOP - location of moved post

I saw this post as a potentially very trollish, low move by an otherwise longstanding member with some decent contributions in the past. IMHO it had no place on the main board. This thread was the first and biggest in the Fight Club section of the forums, and I figured if further dissecting were needed, it could happen here.

I did not simply delete it because I did not want to also nix the rest of the conversations that followed, and completely chop up the rest of the thread.

Also please note it is not so much the underlying opinion of the poster that was objectionable. It was what in my estimation was a complete lack of respect towards the site, its contributors and its host in the MANNER in which said opinion was expressed.

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Thank you

Mod Jefferson. I appreciate the reply and explanation. 

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Either way, I'm sure you can

I'll redact my post, cause you know something...I really don't care.

Really I don't.

So don't assume if you are PMing someone that it won't be forwarded or shared with someone else. Here or anywhere. Period.

That is a very interesting development here...very interesting. I now fear for my security and trust here on TF. .....For that I am done.

Feel free to remove my account when time allows..... Capiche?

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Consider it done.

Consider it done.

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That's just great...

Another valued member and good poster gone.

Other people sharing PM's is beyond creepy IMO. I always thought this site was about openness and honesty and building a "community"? Now we have to fear our private messages are being shared and even monitored? 

That is wrong on so many levels I don't even know where to begin. 

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Bye-bye Shill. Until we meet

Bye-bye Shill. Until we meet again :)

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I concur BOP

Pitiful and seemingly done with haughty zeal.  And what is with the gender card?

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Huffing and puffing

The site admin has access to ALL data in the site, including the messaging system. That should not be a surprise. This power/access has NOT been distributed or abused, and the site admin is the ONLY one with direct access. Just like in any non-encrypted data system. Do you think Gmail, Hotmail or ANY other public email system cannot be read by the employees of the company operating it? Anything without end-to-end encryption CAN be read. There is just no desire or capacity on anyone's part for systematically or even randomly checking and reading through people's messages.

If the admin or the site DB is ever compromised/hacked/raided, we (and the Turd) are all in the same boat, insofar as personally identifying info has been left. I'm guessing login IP address would fall into that category anyway, and I for one have NOT bothered to use IP cloaking nearly often enough...

However, please take another moment to read these moderation guidelines and Turd's own rules. Flaming, attacking, or threatening (with physical violence) the volunteers/staff of TFMR or any other site members is NOT acceptable behavior. Why is anyone surprised that people come to Mods when they are attacked via PM? Why is anyone surprised that Mods will not tolerate hate-mail coming personally to them from site users? Why would Mods NOT share emails they get among themselves? Also, bear in mind that every single one of the Moderators is a volunteer from among the readership, and gets PMs that way too.

If you want secure communications, read the ZH section on black helicopters. If you think this place is a honey-pot for spying on and outing the kind of people all of us seem to be, then I can't help, your tinfoil hat is wrapped too tight.

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