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sp001 wrote:as far as i can

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as far as i can figure out anon is just a bunch of kids, i get this from the 4chan thing. have followed them for a long time including the scientology thing. who knows what they are. not sure i understand what u mean by all that knowledge about all those cultures, etc. u can go to brooklyn for a week and learn about all of those cultures very quickly trust me!

Following an anonymous  group  who actively took part in several overthrows of foreign governments  without knowing who they are is not the wisest course of action .What was their interest in Egypt? They spent a lot of time and effort in this  and you have to ask why? the fact that this group came together  simultaneously and  had the same  agreed plans and ideas and methods ,to me, says that they were organized and have an agenda  . The fact that they were/are striking  all over the Middle East as a primary target and the timeing of the movements says  they are organized. The methods are organized.

An unorganized group of kids are not going to organize mass rallys across the globe with out organization. That doesn't happen.

Effective organizations require effective leadership, planning, the designation of tasks  to a particular specialist/group  would be required. There is a leader or leaders.

Haphazard willy nilly groups of kids  at random can not overthrow a government nor can they get the will of the people behind them without an extensive understanding of the people and politics in that country. The fact that they were doing this in several countries at the same time indicates to me, that they must have extensive knowledge of political conditions of multiple countries , More than you would find on  Flat bush Ave. This  requires more than just a passing knowledge of  those countries. It requires an intelligence network of some type.

I think this is exactly what we are looking at.

Now in at least two instances (Egypt,Libya) The revolutions brought about some form of government that was not intended by the people. The fact they are actively involved in this movement  here in our country should warrant some concern.

In answer to your question I should have stated the politics of various cultures within a country and their interaction, history  with each other.

Personally speaking, Im in a dilemma about this movement because I agree with a  lot of the main ideas of the movement. But at the same time, I see things that I dont like.

If Im wrong, it means nothing, but if Im right it could mean everything.

I don't condemn anyone for backing it . Personally, I want to understand more about these shadowy kids who hide behind masks and overthrow governments .

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Triumph

Triumph the insult comic dog occupies wall street:

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Beware of Police Infiltrators and Provocateurs

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This is awesome

You have to hit them where they live.  At their fancy little luncheons where they spin their little webs.

The 99% shout down Wis. Gov. Walker.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b5b_1320502130

Thanks to zilverreiger for the original link.

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Awesome video! This is how protests can be effective. Bring it to the perpetrators in person, just like Icelanders bringing torches to the front of residence of Iceland president, and the peasants occupying the Canterbury in the 14th century. 

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Eric Original wrote: You have

Eric Original wrote:

You have to hit them where they live.  At their fancy little luncheons where they spin their little webs.

The 99% shout down Wis. Gov. Walker.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b5b_1320502130

Thanks to zilverreiger for the original link.

That has to be one of the best videos I've seen all week, freaking awesome!

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Death may close Occupy Vancouver encampment

Nov. 6, 2011, 3:03 p.m. EST

Death may close Occupy Vancouver encampment

By Sam Mamudi, MarketWatch

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — The death of a protester involved in Occupy Vancouver has led to the Canadian city’s mayor to order its tent encampment to be disbanded.

CBC News said the death of a woman in her 20s on Saturday afternoon led to Mayor Gregor Robertson’s decision. The cause of the woman’s death hasn’t been determined although a drug overdose was suspected, according to Canadian media reports....

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/death-may-close-occupy-vancouver-encamp...

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Death may close Occupy Vancouver encampment?

Any excuse will do I suppose. :-/

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Revolution by the Beatles (french riots 1968)

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Video I found at Max Kaiser

It's pretty revealing;

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I like the M4 or maybe its a

I like the M4 or maybe its a SKS in the background based  on the ghost ring sites and the strap.

Cute girl, and bright.

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Ok, she gets points for being

Ok, she gets points for being cute, but she loses points on the rifle.

Dont date chicks with rifles , thats my motto . Im funny that way. I also wont date women named Steve or Larry, or women who can beat me in arm wrestling, Women who speak in tongues, shape shifters, lounge lizards,any women whos last three husbands died under mysterious circumstances.

And I thought it was kinda cute the way they cut the video every time she turned the page

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Experts in police use of force shocked by Oakland video

"Unless there's something we don't know, that's one of the most outrageous uses of a firearm that I've ever seen," he said. "Unless there's a threat that you can't see in the video, that just looks like absolute punishment, which is the worst type of excessive force."

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_19284774

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Portland Live Feed

Police are going to evict occupy portland in about 20 minutes at 3am eastern time. They are going to make arrests, hopefully it goes down peacefully. Link if you're interested.

http://www.livestream.com/occupyptown

http://www.kgw.com/live-stream

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Jim Kunstler touches on OWS

Jim Kunstler touches on OWS in his latest piece.

http://kunstler.com/blog/2011/11/critical-state.html

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Dallas police officer shoves protester off of platform then lies

An Occupy Dallas activist named Stephen Benavides was arrested on a felony charge of assaulting a police officer and resisting arrest. He spent four nights in jail until he was released Wednesday on a $50,000 bond.

This is how the original story read on NBC:

After being directed to get down, one of of the protesters became aggressive and assaulted a police officer.

That person was arrested and will be charged with assault on a public servant and resisting arrest.

Occupy Dallas spokesperson Michael Prestonise told NBC 5 via email that an off-duty Dallas officer working security at the bank shoved a protester and that is what sparked the violence.

That report also states that seven other people were arrested for "use of sidewalk."

Initially, Dallas Police Chief David Brown stood by his officers, despite the allegations of excessive force.

But that was before someone posted a video on Youtube proving the allegations were correct.

http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/politically-motivated-police-violence...

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Occupy Denver 11/12/2011 Police Clash

"...video from the front line of protestors as police released excessive fire extinguishing chemicals, destroyed the community kitchen and tents, and forcefully shoved protesters, independent journalists, and innocent bystanders with their nightsticks."

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