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heads up

July can tend to be  a decent month for Gold buying so anything can happen now. That said these are range trading,low volume markets in the summer and very treacherous imo.

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3 little longs and a short

Long Au/Ag/Euro, short T Bond.

That's a very long spike/doji/dragon/whatever candle at the top of the 30 year (1M/1H) and it's been in an uptrend for 8-10 days, I'm short the Sep12 from 150.87.

It was Thursday last week that we dipped from 1575/27 to 1547/26.10 in the PMs and they are often hit hardest 12-36 hours after gnome speak.  Same again on both counts? I'm not feeling it, but that's what stops are for :)

Globex closed, 50 mins of respite before... yawn... the fun begins again.

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Recent Thursday's gold action

Watch out being long tomorrow.

Over recent weeks, Thursday's have been very hard on the gold longs -- this has been especially true just prior to and during the NYSE (not Comex) trading hours.

Past price action is no guarantee of future price action, but I will be betting this tomorrow.

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Good call Titus

But I'm happy with my little longs just now. Just waiting for resolution really, but I lose focus if I have no skin on it. Yep, Thursdays haven't been great, but Fridays have... except last week... and two weeks ago :)

I'm not knocking your system per se, I'm just more of a tide man myself.

glta

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Re soybeans FWIW

Had to go back to my spreadsheet for the long term weekly Schiff ML just to verify the #s.

For this week, the Schiff ML is at 1624 3/4.  The high for August beans (spot for this chart) is 1625 1/2.

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Dan Basse Video

Blackhawk,

Great find. Just watched the video regarding US grain crops. This guy is spot on. He is not exaggerating about the crop losses, these yield reductions are unprecedented. We went from possibly of our biggest corn crop ever to one of the worst in just three weeks. I suspect the August crop report will reduce harvested acres as well as lower yields again. The information I have access to confirms what this man is saying.

The need to ration will continue to be the focus of the trade. I do not think many users, domestic or export, have that much new crop coverage on. So users should be there to buy the dips. Ethanol production is decreasing and corn exports are down. Other grains can be substituted for corn. But China wants our soybeans, not sure the price level where they slow down purchases. Not many alternatives for soybeans.

Maybe prices have done enough for now to slow down demand. May chop around hoping for rain. Without rain, this market should trade higher. Soybean market has the potential to be the biggest market ever.

Trade carefully. Everyone have a good weekend.

Thanks Pete.

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Thanks, Art.  I bought more

Thanks, Art.  I bought more beans around the low today, but remain extremely vigilant.  Do we have another leg up?  We'll see...

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P.S. Oh, jeez--just did some chart work.  What good is that, anymore, I know...nonetheless (hope springs eternal!): 

The monthly is ho-hum--the "channel" leads to points unknown on Earth...

The weekly would be notable, but not completely out of control...

The daily?  Why, things are just falling apart! LOL!

The 5M?  Well, brother, best cowboy up iffen you want in on this...

As I said above, Art--many thanks.  You help me (complete moron) at least realize the gun is always pointing at me!cool

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Art

thanks for that and sorry about Iowa and the corn Art.

Just bought the dip today and then sold at close. The big red candle at the top yesterday on high volume says a lot and is all I have to go by. Portends another strong leg down soon enough but I know nothing about trading this, just looking at the chart.

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This could be it

This could be the sub-$26 day for silver.

Should be interesting.

It looks like the recent Thursday gold drop is being front run and started early (without me).  Sure hope we get a good bounce before the NYSE open.

Jul 12

8:30 AM

Initial Claims

07/07

NA

374K

Jul 12

8:30 AM

Continuing Claims

06/30

NA

3306K

Jul 12

8:30 AM

Export Prices ex-ag.

Jun

NA

-0.5%

Jul 12

8:30 AM

Import Prices ex-oil

Jun

NA

-0.1%

Jul 12

2:00 PM

Treasury Budget

Jun

NA

-$43.1B

 
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Daily Pivot Points

Still on holiday hours...thought today was going to be Friday, stayed long overnight :(

Whatever. Just cut on bounce, get a higher bounce...short :)

Daily XAU/USD
High 1583.58
Low  1565.80
Close 1576.03
R3 1602.26
R2 1592.92
R1 1584.48
Pivot 1575.14
S1 1566.70
S2 1557.36
S3 1548.92
Weekly XAU/USD
High 1625.46
Low  1576.38
Close 1583.60
R3 1663.00
R2 1644.23
R1 1613.92
Pivot 1595.15
S1 1564.84
S2 1546.07
S3 1515.76
Monthly XAU/USD
High 1641.23
Low  1544.61
Close 1597.36
R3 1740.81
R2 1691.02
R1 1644.19
Pivot 1594.40
S1 1547.57
S2 1497.78
S3 1450.95
Daily XAG/USD
High 27.287
Low  26.771
Close 27.099
R3 27.849
R2 27.568
R1 27.333
Pivot 27.052
S1 26.817
S2 26.536
S3 26.301
Weekly XAG/USD
High 28.477
Low  26.937
Close 27.081
R3 29.599
R2 29.038
R1 28.059
Pivot 27.498
S1 26.519
S2 25.958
S3 24.979
Monthly XAG/USD
High 29.922
Low  26.116
Close 27.477
R3 33.366
R2 31.644
R1 29.560
Pivot 27.838
S1 25.754
S2 24.032
S3 21.948
Daily EUR/USD
High 1.22980
Low  1.22122
Close 1.22383
R3 1.23726
R2 1.23353
R1 1.22868
Pivot 1.22495
S1 1.22010
S2 1.21637
S3 1.21152
Weekly EUR/USD
High 1.26814
Low  1.22595
Close 1.22871
R3 1.29810
R2 1.28312
R1 1.25591
Pivot 1.24093
S1 1.21372
S2 1.19874
S3 1.17153
Monthly EUR/USD
High 1.27488
Low  1.22877
Close 1.26602
R3 1.33046
R2 1.30267
R1 1.28435
Pivot 1.25656
S1 1.23824
S2 1.21045
S3 1.19213

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EUR doing the nasty, down

EUR doing the nasty, down through S1, working on S2 now.

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World getting increasingly

World getting increasingly wobbly.  PMs (particularly silver) are not a safe haven, but a risk asset, and their weakness is not so much manipulation, as a panic rush out of Euros into greenbacks.  Pretty much the exact opposite of the Pain Street fever dream.

The Fed cannot act with asset prices still so high--it is finally stuck between Scylla and Charybdis:  markets must first fall before they can be rescued, netting out to no gain.

The U.S. taxpayers' money burning a hole in the Great Satan's pocket will instead be thrown away on some hare-brained European "solution" (and soon...), which will have no real effect except to further poison the world economy.

Play defense! Protect your cash.

Oh, and buy them soybeanscool

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Dup

My bad graphic

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Art's take away on the Bosse video

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Soybean market has the potential to be the biggest market ever.

My bean trades are limited to SOYB (an ETF) because I am trading my IRA. Maybe it's time to open an account that allows trades in options and futures. What would the strategy be. Bosse gave an idea about possible price moves to $17-18/bu, but what is the peak price month in our projection? if you look at the SOYB charts. you can see incredible price movement on report releases and sometimes a lot of price jockeying at the comex close. This makes some serious spikes (3pm July 9) and dips (3PM yesterday) on a minute to minute basis, enough to trip stop losses and/or sell limits. At a minimum, I need to get a better handle on max price movements and calendar/time of day events.

It might be easier to open a commodity brokerage with a dummied up PO box address. You couldn't get away with that on e-bay, but the crony commodities market security apparatus will allow that.

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sold my short overngiht

sold my short overngiht positiobn at open. We're at S2 already, and got close to S3 at 8:45am.

No big news on the TV screen. This could be some big fish/small fish movement.

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Grains

Rico/Blackhawk,

Good one Rico -  "the gun is always pointing at me!"

Hard to use the charts when the weather is involved. How can you trade a hint of rain in a 10 day forecast? 63c range in corn yesterday/ 70c in beans. Was that a key reversal yesterday off new contract highs and big volume?

I'm not smart enough to trade that, nor have the time a baby sit a position. Maybe a few quick day trades. Not sure how they get those topside price projections, maybe that's where the stats say price needs to be to ration the supply.

I'm not a big user of options, but read where some people are using the short term weekly puts as downside protection against long futures, keeping them rolled up on rallies.

You would really have to be focused to manage trading these markets.

I think users will be here to buy the dips, and USDA is likely to cut harvested acres on the next report. Yield is still trending lower.

Rico has a good recommendation:

"Play defense! Protect your cash."

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50 years ago today

The Rolling Stones played their first live concert.

We fondly remember our retired General atlee.

Back to discussing the musical fruit.

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Thanks

Thank you Mr. Palin and everyone else who shares information and trading ideas.

I have learned a lot from everyone. This place is a wealth of information,

very little BS, and entertaining too. (thank you SW)

Will be leaving town for a few days next week with Mrs. Lomax. Will be lurking when I can.

Everyone have a great weekend.

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how long < $27

the last couple of drops below $1550/$27 at the end of June were short-lived. AU was there for a day or two, AG was there for a few days. then came that move up on friday, 6/29

obviously past performance is no indication of future success...but who knows?

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I've been realizing over time

I've been realizing over time that trading is like being a surgeon.  The decision to not act is harder than the decision to act.  For those who want to get in there and do something, just like traders, the exhaustion comes from inaction.  Sitting tight is painful for compulsive active types.

But when you make the decision to act it must clear headed, precise and timely, as they say with surgical precision.

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